There is nothing fascist about my ideas and believe strongly in a freely elected republican (small ‘r’) form of government. I favor free speech and open debate, even when that means that narrow-minded, hate-filled people like Michael Moore can produce and distribute films (or books) and that angry people can protest outside the president’s summer retreat. And that belief in freedom extends beyond speech–as I am quite libertarian in my views, that is, I believe that, as much as possible, the government should leave people alone to live their lives as they choose.

I would hardly call that fascist.

While I have been soured on most of the strident fascist opinions posted to this blog, I still genuinely like GPW. He has what most of the neo-fascistas have sold long ago, a soul. This tangential(OT) inquiry into our group nature is apolitical and intellectually provocative. It is worthy of a second thought or two. As this has accidentally degenerated into an actual abstract discussion, I have felt freer to post. Also, any thread that glisteny HASN’T posted in hasn’t been poisoned by bilious invectives masquerading as cogent discussion. Nuff said:)

Anywho, I thought Chandler was going to sit down and shut up.

Comment by Gay Cowboy Bob —
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I just adore you, let’s get a room…

While I wouldn’t be as harsh as you about Disney, I do regret the way it has changed some of the fairy tales. Complexity does not always make for good art. Indeed, some of the very best fairy tales are characterized by their simplicity. And sentiment is a good thing so long as it doesn’t become sentimentalism.

The Disney version is as idealized as Beauty and the Beast* but what about the Hunchback of Notre Dame? A story of a man whose been conditioned all his life to think that’s he’s a freakish abberation to be tolerated instead of loved. It takes the compassion of a beautiful gypsy, ostracized like himself, to realize that being normal isn’t the same thing as being beautiful or worthy.

* I highly recommend you buy the track cut from the movie “Human Again,” available on iTunes, which was integrated into the stage musical. Angela Landsbury, who I had the good fortune to meet, is such a nice woman. Hard to picture her as the vamp in one of my all time favorites “The Harvey Girls.”

As a child I was always given real children’s literature with real illustrations and was raised to view Disney as quite the fraud and huskster. Disney marketed false traditions to insecure and vain parents. Prudery as wholesomeness. Simplicity and sentiment instead of complexity and art.

Very beautiful post !

Self-acceptance is the most important thing someone can do for themselves. Jung is saying that once you are yourself, you soul becomes alive. The last sentence from Jung (about forcing everything) is also key, because many of us are trying to force things based on what society wants us to think how things should be. Becoming our true selves allows us to really live (and not simply be breathing). Amen to that !

The Beauty and the Beast (movie version) connection is good too. The scene I remember best is after the Beast is turned back into a prince, Belle is not sure who she sees. The prince says it is him (the former Beast), but not until she looks into his eyes does she realize it is the one she loves. No matter how he changed, she was still able to look inside and see the real him (Beast/prince).

Once again a very lovely post … Thanks

On a serious note; Dan, what you posted is expressed in many traditions. Some people pray for God to give them the stength to change what they can, accept what they can’t, and possess the wisdom to know the difference. We all have to make that journey, accepting what comes to us and processing it with the fullest understanding possible. I just hope I have gained enough wisdom to do just that.

J’accuse!