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		<title>By: chandler in hollywood</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2005/09/17/the-willfull-ignorance-of-bush-bashers-and-their-media-allies/comment-page-2/#comment-6137</link>
		<dc:creator>chandler in hollywood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Sep 2005 22:53:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#69
RE: Joey Petain,

Ma p&#039;tit pet,

You certainly let it rip, where most people would gave just tried to sneak one by. You name calling has risen like a cloud of stench to choke off the most prudent of readers. I only hope you have not stained the reputation of the noble Quebecois as you have left skid marks on the propriety of this noble bog, ugh, blog.

Have you ever thought of changing the family name to Beignet?

H@@@</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#69<br />
RE: Joey Petain,</p>
<p>Ma p&#8217;tit pet,</p>
<p>You certainly let it rip, where most people would gave just tried to sneak one by. You name calling has risen like a cloud of stench to choke off the most prudent of readers. I only hope you have not stained the reputation of the noble Quebecois as you have left skid marks on the propriety of this noble bog, ugh, blog.</p>
<p>Have you ever thought of changing the family name to Beignet?</p>
<p>H@@@</p>
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		<title>By: Queer Patriot</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2005/09/17/the-willfull-ignorance-of-bush-bashers-and-their-media-allies/comment-page-2/#comment-6136</link>
		<dc:creator>Queer Patriot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Sep 2005 11:53:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thirty dear, in your rush to the school marm position, you wildly overstate the rambunctiousness of your gay brethern and fling some charges that thinking Patriots will find difficult to accept.

You say &quot;the most vocal members of our community run around half-naked&quot; (you watch too many TV news clips of Pride parades); that they &quot;desecrate churches&quot; (where, when, how?); that they &quot;call people of faith ignorant, superstitious bigots” (only the ones who are -- Falwell, Sheldon, Robertson, et al. -- and you don&#039;t?); &quot;and make disparaging remarks about the vast majority of people in our country&quot; (I don&#039;t think so -- you just made that one up).

You clearly have a problem with gay people not as prim as yourself; or else you&#039;re masquerading here AS a gay person -- which wouldn&#039;t surprise me after all the costume changes I&#039;ve seen here in the past few days.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thirty dear, in your rush to the school marm position, you wildly overstate the rambunctiousness of your gay brethern and fling some charges that thinking Patriots will find difficult to accept.</p>
<p>You say &#8220;the most vocal members of our community run around half-naked&#8221; (you watch too many TV news clips of Pride parades); that they &#8220;desecrate churches&#8221; (where, when, how?); that they &#8220;call people of faith ignorant, superstitious bigots” (only the ones who are &#8212; Falwell, Sheldon, Robertson, et al. &#8212; and you don&#8217;t?); &#8220;and make disparaging remarks about the vast majority of people in our country&#8221; (I don&#8217;t think so &#8212; you just made that one up).</p>
<p>You clearly have a problem with gay people not as prim as yourself; or else you&#8217;re masquerading here AS a gay person &#8212; which wouldn&#8217;t surprise me after all the costume changes I&#8217;ve seen here in the past few days.</p>
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		<title>By: North Dallas Thirty</title>
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		<dc:creator>North Dallas Thirty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Sep 2005 05:15:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;But if the fact that George Bush and his conservative followers and agenda put OUR equal rights as Americans on the ballot in many states — including mine — and figuratively “on the ballot” in 2004 is not the overriding reason to NOT support conservative, republican America, then I pitty you.&lt;/i&gt;

And you provide an excellent example of why every one of those ballot initiatives passed, ed...... you have made of gay rights being against fighting terrorism, against removal of brutal dictatorships, against tax breaks for Americans, and against restricting the act of producing life for the sole purpose of destroying and harvesting it.

People don&#039;t want to vote for gay rights, and I daresay it has a great deal to do with the fact that the most vocal members of our community run around half-naked, desecrate churches, call people of faith &quot;ignorant, superstitious bigots&quot;, and make disparaging remarks about the vast majority of people in our country.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>But if the fact that George Bush and his conservative followers and agenda put OUR equal rights as Americans on the ballot in many states — including mine — and figuratively “on the ballot” in 2004 is not the overriding reason to NOT support conservative, republican America, then I pitty you.</i></p>
<p>And you provide an excellent example of why every one of those ballot initiatives passed, ed&#8230;&#8230; you have made of gay rights being against fighting terrorism, against removal of brutal dictatorships, against tax breaks for Americans, and against restricting the act of producing life for the sole purpose of destroying and harvesting it.</p>
<p>People don&#8217;t want to vote for gay rights, and I daresay it has a great deal to do with the fact that the most vocal members of our community run around half-naked, desecrate churches, call people of faith &#8220;ignorant, superstitious bigots&#8221;, and make disparaging remarks about the vast majority of people in our country.</p>
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		<title>By: ed</title>
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		<dc:creator>ed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Sep 2005 03:45:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I found interesting Bruce&#039;s comments that gay liberals see the world as they want it to be -- isnt that what George is doing in spreading his form of democracy and how a nation should get to it in Iraq?  I believe so.  There&#039;s not enough time to discuss why George Bush and Conservative America see us -- Gay Americans -- as either the moral decay of society (last I think I read in the Bible, Jesus Christ &quot;HELPED&quot; the poor, needy, sick) or simply not worth the time to meet or look at legislation that will make us equal.  But if the fact that George Bush and his conservative followers and agenda put OUR equal rights as Americans on the ballot in many states -- including mine -- and figuratively &quot;on the ballot&quot; in 2004 is not the overriding reason to NOT support conservative, republican America, then I pitty you.  Your rights as Americans should trump Iraq, a &quot;so called&quot; tax break, fighting terrorism (by the way, terrorism isn&#039;t a country, it&#039;s an ideal...don&#039;t think we can fight something that is not a physical place or people) stem cells, etc when you go to the ballot box.  Bruce and others...how many of you had to vote for YOUR equal and civil rights in 2004 because Bush and his conservative crew put YOUR equal rights on the ballot box.  If you did not, I wish you better than me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I found interesting Bruce&#8217;s comments that gay liberals see the world as they want it to be &#8212; isnt that what George is doing in spreading his form of democracy and how a nation should get to it in Iraq?  I believe so.  There&#8217;s not enough time to discuss why George Bush and Conservative America see us &#8212; Gay Americans &#8212; as either the moral decay of society (last I think I read in the Bible, Jesus Christ &#8220;HELPED&#8221; the poor, needy, sick) or simply not worth the time to meet or look at legislation that will make us equal.  But if the fact that George Bush and his conservative followers and agenda put OUR equal rights as Americans on the ballot in many states &#8212; including mine &#8212; and figuratively &#8220;on the ballot&#8221; in 2004 is not the overriding reason to NOT support conservative, republican America, then I pitty you.  Your rights as Americans should trump Iraq, a &#8220;so called&#8221; tax break, fighting terrorism (by the way, terrorism isn&#8217;t a country, it&#8217;s an ideal&#8230;don&#8217;t think we can fight something that is not a physical place or people) stem cells, etc when you go to the ballot box.  Bruce and others&#8230;how many of you had to vote for YOUR equal and civil rights in 2004 because Bush and his conservative crew put YOUR equal rights on the ballot box.  If you did not, I wish you better than me.</p>
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		<title>By: Queer Patriot</title>
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		<dc:creator>Queer Patriot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Sep 2005 01:32:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think Joey, at least not yet.  Though I&#039;m sure that will follow in due time.  Meanwhile, any cousins en France Joey?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think Joey, at least not yet.  Though I&#8217;m sure that will follow in due time.  Meanwhile, any cousins en France Joey?</p>
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		<title>By: Joey Petain</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2005/09/17/the-willfull-ignorance-of-bush-bashers-and-their-media-allies/comment-page-2/#comment-6132</link>
		<dc:creator>Joey Petain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Sep 2005 00:55:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK, Queer Patriot, you hateful cow loon.  I did my research.  Turns out my famly is an old french family.  From Quebec, you evil bitch.  We have been Quebecois forever.  So what are we saying here you puffed up old Tarte?  You couldn&#039;t hold my spit.  The real stuff.  But you&#039;d like to try wouldnt you, you dykelike old cum catcher!!  Youre banned!  You hear me? Dyke bitch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, Queer Patriot, you hateful cow loon.  I did my research.  Turns out my famly is an old french family.  From Quebec, you evil bitch.  We have been Quebecois forever.  So what are we saying here you puffed up old Tarte?  You couldn&#8217;t hold my spit.  The real stuff.  But you&#8217;d like to try wouldnt you, you dykelike old cum catcher!!  Youre banned!  You hear me? Dyke bitch.</p>
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		<title>By: Queer Patriot</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2005/09/17/the-willfull-ignorance-of-bush-bashers-and-their-media-allies/comment-page-2/#comment-6131</link>
		<dc:creator>Queer Patriot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Sep 2005 11:53:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Synova, I&#039;m sorry to have to tweak the boy, but he invites it:  he hasn&#039;t a clue of the historical value of the Petain family name nor its humorous relevance to a website that some of the past liberal writers here once described as &quot;collaborationist&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Synova, I&#8217;m sorry to have to tweak the boy, but he invites it:  he hasn&#8217;t a clue of the historical value of the Petain family name nor its humorous relevance to a website that some of the past liberal writers here once described as &#8220;collaborationist&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Synova</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2005/09/17/the-willfull-ignorance-of-bush-bashers-and-their-media-allies/comment-page-2/#comment-6130</link>
		<dc:creator>Synova</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Sep 2005 06:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lessee... people react to unfairness by giving the attacked person more credit.... teasing other kids about their names is the worst example of schoolyard juvenile behavior, therefore I feel a strong need to give Joey more credit and inclined to view whatever he writes next in his favor if at all possible.   I&#039;m not even going to take notice of the work dickbreath, which in normal circumstances I would.

Thanks, Queer Patriot, for such a good example of what GayPatriotWest was talking about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lessee&#8230; people react to unfairness by giving the attacked person more credit&#8230;. teasing other kids about their names is the worst example of schoolyard juvenile behavior, therefore I feel a strong need to give Joey more credit and inclined to view whatever he writes next in his favor if at all possible.   I&#8217;m not even going to take notice of the work dickbreath, which in normal circumstances I would.</p>
<p>Thanks, Queer Patriot, for such a good example of what GayPatriotWest was talking about.</p>
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		<title>By: Queer Patriot</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2005/09/17/the-willfull-ignorance-of-bush-bashers-and-their-media-allies/comment-page-2/#comment-6129</link>
		<dc:creator>Queer Patriot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Sep 2005 02:59:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, little Joey (may I call you little?), you hold tight and proud to that name, for never did God assign a commenter a name more fitting to this website.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, little Joey (may I call you little?), you hold tight and proud to that name, for never did God assign a commenter a name more fitting to this website.</p>
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		<title>By: Joey Petain</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2005/09/17/the-willfull-ignorance-of-bush-bashers-and-their-media-allies/comment-page-2/#comment-6128</link>
		<dc:creator>Joey Petain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Sep 2005 02:51:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Happens to be my family name dickbreath!  Some of us dont choose fairy fag names like you.  You loon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Happens to be my family name dickbreath!  Some of us dont choose fairy fag names like you.  You loon.</p>
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		<title>By: Queer Patriot</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2005/09/17/the-willfull-ignorance-of-bush-bashers-and-their-media-allies/comment-page-2/#comment-6127</link>
		<dc:creator>Queer Patriot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Sep 2005 02:29:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No. 59, what possessed you to choose THAT particular name to use on THIS website?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No. 59, what possessed you to choose THAT particular name to use on THIS website?</p>
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		<title>By: Queer Patriot</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2005/09/17/the-willfull-ignorance-of-bush-bashers-and-their-media-allies/comment-page-2/#comment-6126</link>
		<dc:creator>Queer Patriot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Sep 2005 02:27:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How many here think there&#039;s any chance of the Federal budget being cut by even $1 to fund Katrina reconstruction?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How many here think there&#8217;s any chance of the Federal budget being cut by even $1 to fund Katrina reconstruction?</p>
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		<title>By: ThatGayConservative</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2005/09/17/the-willfull-ignorance-of-bush-bashers-and-their-media-allies/comment-page-2/#comment-6125</link>
		<dc:creator>ThatGayConservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Sep 2005 00:30:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#61
I think that&#039;s actually what&#039;s going on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#61<br />
I think that&#8217;s actually what&#8217;s going on.</p>
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		<title>By: V the K</title>
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		<dc:creator>V the K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Sep 2005 23:55:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#60 --- The Government is required by the Stafford Act to pay 75% of the cost of rebuilding infrastructure.  The government is not required to borrow all that money from the Chinese and deficit spend subsequent generations into penury. Cut the pork out of the highway bill. Cut corporate welfare. Eliminate the $90 billion spent annually on programs that don&#039;t work. Cut back the Prescription Drug Giveaway so it only helps people who actually need help.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#60 &#8212; The Government is required by the Stafford Act to pay 75% of the cost of rebuilding infrastructure.  The government is not required to borrow all that money from the Chinese and deficit spend subsequent generations into penury. Cut the pork out of the highway bill. Cut corporate welfare. Eliminate the $90 billion spent annually on programs that don&#8217;t work. Cut back the Prescription Drug Giveaway so it only helps people who actually need help.</p>
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		<title>By: ThatGayConservative</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2005/09/17/the-willfull-ignorance-of-bush-bashers-and-their-media-allies/comment-page-2/#comment-6123</link>
		<dc:creator>ThatGayConservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Sep 2005 23:37:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Regarding Katrina spending,
Isn&#039;t the federal government required by law to spend at least 75% on reconstruction after a disaster?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding Katrina spending,<br />
Isn&#8217;t the federal government required by law to spend at least 75% on reconstruction after a disaster?</p>
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		<title>By: Joey Petain</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2005/09/17/the-willfull-ignorance-of-bush-bashers-and-their-media-allies/comment-page-2/#comment-6122</link>
		<dc:creator>Joey Petain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Sep 2005 22:44:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The coolest thing just happend.  PatriotWest just wrote me to let me know he edited my comments to take into account his deleting some sick piece that showed up here.  Isn&#039;t that the neatest thing?  Thank you man.  That was really soimething.  I LOVE this site!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The coolest thing just happend.  PatriotWest just wrote me to let me know he edited my comments to take into account his deleting some sick piece that showed up here.  Isn&#8217;t that the neatest thing?  Thank you man.  That was really soimething.  I LOVE this site!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: ThatGayConservative</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2005/09/17/the-willfull-ignorance-of-bush-bashers-and-their-media-allies/comment-page-2/#comment-6121</link>
		<dc:creator>ThatGayConservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Sep 2005 21:56:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#4

Boogity Boogity!!!</description>
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<p>Boogity Boogity!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick (Gryph)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick (Gryph)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Sep 2005 19:58:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;I’m closer to Frist on stem cells &quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I actually am closer to Frist on this as well, but I give high marks to the President for wading into the debate. It&#039;s a national discussion that has needed to take place for some time now.

I think it telling that I actually forgot to mention the obvious big thing he did that I don&#039;t like. His support for the DOMA in the US Constitution.  Regardless of feelings on the issue, the Constitution is not the appropriate place to work out this argument.


And in fact the amendment he supports would limit States rights,  which are the places the Founders often viewed as the correct area to experiment with new laws.  I have a difficult time seeing, even if he believes personally in what he is says, that his actions were anything but crass political pandering to the more radical elements that now control the GOP. It stinks of Rove. He should can his ass.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>&#8220;I’m closer to Frist on stem cells &#8220;</p></blockquote>
<p>I actually am closer to Frist on this as well, but I give high marks to the President for wading into the debate. It&#8217;s a national discussion that has needed to take place for some time now.</p>
<p>I think it telling that I actually forgot to mention the obvious big thing he did that I don&#8217;t like. His support for the DOMA in the US Constitution.  Regardless of feelings on the issue, the Constitution is not the appropriate place to work out this argument.</p>
<p>And in fact the amendment he supports would limit States rights,  which are the places the Founders often viewed as the correct area to experiment with new laws.  I have a difficult time seeing, even if he believes personally in what he is says, that his actions were anything but crass political pandering to the more radical elements that now control the GOP. It stinks of Rove. He should can his ass.</p>
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		<title>By: Stinger!</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stinger!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Sep 2005 19:53:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Petain, I was talking about plain old &quot;Joey&quot;.  Hence, the salutation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Petain, I was talking about plain old &#8220;Joey&#8221;.  Hence, the salutation.</p>
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		<title>By: Clint</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clint</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Sep 2005 18:00:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gryph-

Fair enough.  I even agree with most of your stated positions. (I&#039;m closer to Frist on stem cells and more positive on how Iraq has been handled -- time will tell on that, but it&#039;s important to remember the plethora of bad outcomes we were defending against.)</description>
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<p>Fair enough.  I even agree with most of your stated positions. (I&#8217;m closer to Frist on stem cells and more positive on how Iraq has been handled &#8212; time will tell on that, but it&#8217;s important to remember the plethora of bad outcomes we were defending against.)</p>
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