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	<title>Comments on: If Iraq is like Vietnam, how come the rallies keep getting smaller?</title>
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		<title>By: mike3</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Dec 2006 19:23:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe both "sides" are wrong. You've got to be willing that you might be wrong *too*. Truth is seldom in extremes like left wing or right wing. We may have done something good by getting rid of Saddam, but we put him in power in the first place... so, well, what do you make of that? Perhaps maybe "Good America" is not as good as you might want to think?  Not to mention that we frigged the country up so frigging bad we have no clue as to what to do to fix it if indeed anything CAN be done...

Support the troops -- by bringing them home where they are safe. That's what we need -- a way out. Can we "win"? I don't know. What does it even *mean* to "win", anyway? How would we go about doing that, about "winning"?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe both &#8220;sides&#8221; are wrong. You&#8217;ve got to be willing that you might be wrong *too*. Truth is seldom in extremes like left wing or right wing. We may have done something good by getting rid of Saddam, but we put him in power in the first place&#8230; so, well, what do you make of that? Perhaps maybe &#8220;Good America&#8221; is not as good as you might want to think?  Not to mention that we frigged the country up so frigging bad we have no clue as to what to do to fix it if indeed anything CAN be done&#8230;</p>
<p>Support the troops &#8212; by bringing them home where they are safe. That&#8217;s what we need &#8212; a way out. Can we &#8220;win&#8221;? I don&#8217;t know. What does it even *mean* to &#8220;win&#8221;, anyway? How would we go about doing that, about &#8220;winning&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: Acne Laser</title>
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		<dc:creator>Acne Laser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Oct 2006 07:40:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Texas Rainmaker &#187; Is it Really About the Iraq War?</title>
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		<dc:creator>Texas Rainmaker &#187; Is it Really About the Iraq War?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Apr 2006 15:40:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Is it Really About the Iraq War?  We are led to believe it is. By the same folks who want us to believe &#8220;hundreds of thousands&#8221; are showing up to these things. Opponents of the war in Iraq marched today in a clamorous day of protest, song and remembrance of the dead, some showing surprisingly diverse political views even as they spoke with one loud voice in wanting U.S. troops home.  and&#8230; Students rallied against the U.S. involvement in Iraq at a protest that drew a national crowd of 100,000 people to Washington, D.C., on Saturday.  and&#8230; Crowds opposed to the war in Iraq surged past the White House on Saturday, shouting &#8220;Peace now&#8221; in the largest anti-war protest in the U.S. capital since the invasion.  and&#8230; Vast numbers of protesters from around the country poured onto the lawns behind the White House on Saturday to demonstrate their opposition to the war in Iraq&#8230;  and on and on and on&#8230;   But despite the media&#8217;s portrayal of the protests as purely a commentary on Iraq, one look at the messages delivered throughout the protests shows Iraq was but a small subset of the issues.   Here is a sample of the organizations sponsoring the &#8220;anti-Iraq-war&#8221; rally: [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Is it Really About the Iraq War?  We are led to believe it is. By the same folks who want us to believe &#8220;hundreds of thousands&#8221; are showing up to these things. Opponents of the war in Iraq marched today in a clamorous day of protest, song and remembrance of the dead, some showing surprisingly diverse political views even as they spoke with one loud voice in wanting U.S. troops home.  and&#8230; Students rallied against the U.S. involvement in Iraq at a protest that drew a national crowd of 100,000 people to Washington, D.C., on Saturday.  and&#8230; Crowds opposed to the war in Iraq surged past the White House on Saturday, shouting &#8220;Peace now&#8221; in the largest anti-war protest in the U.S. capital since the invasion.  and&#8230; Vast numbers of protesters from around the country poured onto the lawns behind the White House on Saturday to demonstrate their opposition to the war in Iraq&#8230;  and on and on and on&#8230;   But despite the media&#8217;s portrayal of the protests as purely a commentary on Iraq, one look at the messages delivered throughout the protests shows Iraq was but a small subset of the issues.   Here is a sample of the organizations sponsoring the &#8220;anti-Iraq-war&#8221; rally: [...]</p>
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		<title>By: acne treatments</title>
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		<dc:creator>acne treatments</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Mar 2006 06:45:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An ideal website which everyone should read.</description>
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		<title>By: Flopping Aces &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Blogosphere Illumination II</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2005/09/25/if-iraq-is-like-vietnam-how-come-the-rallies-keep-getting-smaller/#comment-6970</link>
		<dc:creator>Flopping Aces &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Blogosphere Illumination II</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jan 2006 17:29:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Gay Patriot: Just over four months ago, when Instapundit linked a piece where I asked “If Iraq is like Vietnam, how come the rallies keep getting smaller?, we received a record number of comments — and not just from those who agreed with the post. We attracted a number of critics, many of whom expressed their disagreement in less-than-civil tones. And I saw an uptick in the amount of hate mail I received. The same thing happened again last week when Glenn linked my post on the Canadian elections. We got a lot more comments and I got a little more hate mail. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Gay Patriot: Just over four months ago, when Instapundit linked a piece where I asked “If Iraq is like Vietnam, how come the rallies keep getting smaller?, we received a record number of comments — and not just from those who agreed with the post. We attracted a number of critics, many of whom expressed their disagreement in less-than-civil tones. And I saw an uptick in the amount of hate mail I received. The same thing happened again last week when Glenn linked my post on the Canadian elections. We got a lot more comments and I got a little more hate mail. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: North Dallas Thirty</title>
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		<dc:creator>North Dallas Thirty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Oct 2005 23:22:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It hurts to be bested by a conservative, doesn't it?</description>
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		<title>By: Queer Patriot</title>
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		<dc:creator>Queer Patriot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Oct 2005 12:56:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No. 283, foolish you that you would think I even care.</description>
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		<title>By: North Dallas Thirty</title>
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		<dc:creator>North Dallas Thirty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Oct 2005 06:56:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOL.....bitterness somehow suits you, QP, but it doesn't change what anyone other than you thinks about me. It does, however, change what several people think about you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL&#8230;..bitterness somehow suits you, QP, but it doesn&#8217;t change what anyone other than you thinks about me. It does, however, change what several people think about you.</p>
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		<title>By: Queer Patriot</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2005/09/25/if-iraq-is-like-vietnam-how-come-the-rallies-keep-getting-smaller/#comment-6966</link>
		<dc:creator>Queer Patriot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Oct 2005 01:37:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, Thirty, you're now an expert on the Vietnam War?  There's a point at which people look at your extensive, pseudo-learned comments and say, oh there goes Mr. Wikipedia again.  Still I'm glad to see you and Jingo Joe focusing on Vietnam at this point, for it will eventually enhance your understanding of the new war you're fighting so vigorously at your keyboards.  Someday, you'll both realize you were nothing more than the latest reincarnation of the "America, Love It Or Leave It" crowd of circa 1970.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, Thirty, you&#8217;re now an expert on the Vietnam War?  There&#8217;s a point at which people look at your extensive, pseudo-learned comments and say, oh there goes Mr. Wikipedia again.  Still I&#8217;m glad to see you and Jingo Joe focusing on Vietnam at this point, for it will eventually enhance your understanding of the new war you&#8217;re fighting so vigorously at your keyboards.  Someday, you&#8217;ll both realize you were nothing more than the latest reincarnation of the &#8220;America, Love It Or Leave It&#8221; crowd of circa 1970.</p>
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		<title>By: joe</title>
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		<dc:creator>joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Sep 2005 17:12:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excuse me, my date numbers for Tet were off by 1.  Tet was early 1968.  So, the U.S. did something right under Johnson!</description>
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		<title>By: joe</title>
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		<dc:creator>joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Sep 2005 17:07:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#279 - and here is a bit more on the military history angle.

"Our military leaders were incapable of adjusting to fight in a way that would challenge the tactics of the enemy. US forces were pummeled time, after time."

- Exaggerated, but might conceivably refer to the pre-1969 phase of the war when &lt;b&gt;Democratic President Lyndon Johnson&lt;/b&gt; weighed the military down with absurd directives, personally (mis)directed U.S. air strikes from the White House situation room, and so forth.

Fact: The Tet Offensive of late 1968 / early 1969 was, militarily, a huge defeat for North Vietnam.

Fact: By 1972-1973, South Vietnam and the U.S. had, in fact, won militarily.  They had crushed both Viet Cong and North Vietnamese forces to the point where they (VC and NV) had to accept a peace treaty in which they abandoned any goal or claim of conquering South Vietnam.

When and why did South Vietnam fall, then?

It was later, in 1975.  After a post-Watergate, Democratic Congress passed strict resolutions cutting off every form of aid to South Vietnam and making clear that the U.S. would not lift a finger to defend it, the North Vietnamese said, in effect, "Let's roll!"

One of my military friends is very politically liberal.  When I first described this history of the Vietnam War to him, he could not believe it.

Six months later, he called me and said "You were absolutely right.  I did some research and some asking around, and that's what happened."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#279 - and here is a bit more on the military history angle.</p>
<p>&#8220;Our military leaders were incapable of adjusting to fight in a way that would challenge the tactics of the enemy. US forces were pummeled time, after time.&#8221;</p>
<p>- Exaggerated, but might conceivably refer to the pre-1969 phase of the war when <b>Democratic President Lyndon Johnson</b> weighed the military down with absurd directives, personally (mis)directed U.S. air strikes from the White House situation room, and so forth.</p>
<p>Fact: The Tet Offensive of late 1968 / early 1969 was, militarily, a huge defeat for North Vietnam.</p>
<p>Fact: By 1972-1973, South Vietnam and the U.S. had, in fact, won militarily.  They had crushed both Viet Cong and North Vietnamese forces to the point where they (VC and NV) had to accept a peace treaty in which they abandoned any goal or claim of conquering South Vietnam.</p>
<p>When and why did South Vietnam fall, then?</p>
<p>It was later, in 1975.  After a post-Watergate, Democratic Congress passed strict resolutions cutting off every form of aid to South Vietnam and making clear that the U.S. would not lift a finger to defend it, the North Vietnamese said, in effect, &#8220;Let&#8217;s roll!&#8221;</p>
<p>One of my military friends is very politically liberal.  When I first described this history of the Vietnam War to him, he could not believe it.</p>
<p>Six months later, he called me and said &#8220;You were absolutely right.  I did some research and some asking around, and that&#8217;s what happened.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: North Dallas Thirty</title>
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		<dc:creator>North Dallas Thirty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Sep 2005 16:02:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;We failed in Vietnam because our forces were attempting to fight that war based on our terms. Our military leaders were incapable of adjusting to fight in a way that would challenge the tactics of the enemy. US forces were pummeled time, after time. &lt;/i&gt;

Technically true, but incorrectly put.

It wasn't that our military was incapable or that our military leaders couldn't adjust; it was that the war was being fought based on polls and political strategy, not on military tactics or strategy. Our military leaders knew full well what they needed to do to win, but were unable to do it for political reasons.

If you want to buy a gun to defend your home, two things are required -- the gun itself and the will to use it. If you lack the latter, the former is absolutely useless. The Iraqi insurgents and al-Qaeda know that there is no way they can defeat the United States militarily; what they do know is that there is an insane moonbat left who will support even the Taliban and Saddam Hussein if they think doing so is anti-Bush. By exploiting this, they think they can destroy our will to use the gun.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>We failed in Vietnam because our forces were attempting to fight that war based on our terms. Our military leaders were incapable of adjusting to fight in a way that would challenge the tactics of the enemy. US forces were pummeled time, after time. </i></p>
<p>Technically true, but incorrectly put.</p>
<p>It wasn&#8217;t that our military was incapable or that our military leaders couldn&#8217;t adjust; it was that the war was being fought based on polls and political strategy, not on military tactics or strategy. Our military leaders knew full well what they needed to do to win, but were unable to do it for political reasons.</p>
<p>If you want to buy a gun to defend your home, two things are required &#8212; the gun itself and the will to use it. If you lack the latter, the former is absolutely useless. The Iraqi insurgents and al-Qaeda know that there is no way they can defeat the United States militarily; what they do know is that there is an insane moonbat left who will support even the Taliban and Saddam Hussein if they think doing so is anti-Bush. By exploiting this, they think they can destroy our will to use the gun.</p>
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		<title>By: Queer Patriot</title>
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		<dc:creator>Queer Patriot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Sep 2005 10:55:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No. 273, see what I meant in No. 274?</description>
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		<title>By: ThatGayConservative</title>
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		<dc:creator>ThatGayConservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Sep 2005 08:37:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#274

Right. Anybody not swallowing the organic load of the Neosocialists are just silly, stupid, dumb etc.
Whatever helps you live with your ignorance.</description>
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<p>Right. Anybody not swallowing the organic load of the Neosocialists are just silly, stupid, dumb etc.<br />
Whatever helps you live with your ignorance.</p>
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		<title>By: ThatGayConservative</title>
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		<dc:creator>ThatGayConservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Sep 2005 08:35:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#273
&lt;i&gt;Do you read / watch history?&lt;/i&gt;

Yep. History's my best subject and that's why I can say that you're a poor, misguided fool that will swallow anything dumped into your mouth.
Also, as hard as it is for you to understand, the goal was to give the people of Iraq the ability to determine the government that they want.

BTW, we know that the same Neosocialist spin and their willing accomplices in the "MSM" that we are seeing today that's pushing for our defeat in Iraq. Same as in Vietnam.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#273<br />
<i>Do you read / watch history?</i></p>
<p>Yep. History&#8217;s my best subject and that&#8217;s why I can say that you&#8217;re a poor, misguided fool that will swallow anything dumped into your mouth.<br />
Also, as hard as it is for you to understand, the goal was to give the people of Iraq the ability to determine the government that they want.</p>
<p>BTW, we know that the same Neosocialist spin and their willing accomplices in the &#8220;MSM&#8221; that we are seeing today that&#8217;s pushing for our defeat in Iraq. Same as in Vietnam.</p>
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		<title>By: Queer Patriot</title>
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		<dc:creator>Queer Patriot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Sep 2005 01:46:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Before I forget:  No. 270, where did you go to school darling?</description>
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		<title>By: Queer Patriot</title>
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		<dc:creator>Queer Patriot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Sep 2005 01:41:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No. 273, thanks for picking up on that earlier bit of absurdity from No.1.  You'll have to forgive us for not having noticed that, but he blurts out so many sillies that most of us have developed a convenient lazy eye when it comes to his posts and just don't even notice anymore.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No. 273, thanks for picking up on that earlier bit of absurdity from No.1.  You&#8217;ll have to forgive us for not having noticed that, but he blurts out so many sillies that most of us have developed a convenient lazy eye when it comes to his posts and just don&#8217;t even notice anymore.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Sep 2005 01:12:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are a lot of responses here, but I'm particularly interested in the first one:

"...liberals are hell bent on snatching defeat from the jaws of victory just like they did when they spun the Tet Offensive victory into a U.S. failure."

Do you read / watch history?  We failed in Vietnam because our forces were attempting to fight that war based on our terms.  Our military leaders were incapable of adjusting to fight in a way that would challenge the tactics of the enemy.  US forces were pummeled time, after time.  Take a look at the footage of the escape from the US Embassy at the end.  It is US arrogance that lost it for us there and is losing it for us in Iraq.  Our president stands around "harumphing" like Mel Brooks' gubentorial cabinet in "Blazing Saddles".  No one in charge will face the real facts of why/how these insurgents are there, let alone admit that we miscalculate on the "waving flowers to our troops issues.  Sure, these people were more than happy to see Saddam disappear, but now our leaders are completely aghast that they won't do things the way we tell them.  Also, as hard as it is to understand, there are countries in the world that (for whatever reasons) don't want democracy.  Let's face it; cultures that are strongly driven by religious dictates are fairly incompatible with the constitutional government that we have here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are a lot of responses here, but I&#8217;m particularly interested in the first one:</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;liberals are hell bent on snatching defeat from the jaws of victory just like they did when they spun the Tet Offensive victory into a U.S. failure.&#8221;</p>
<p>Do you read / watch history?  We failed in Vietnam because our forces were attempting to fight that war based on our terms.  Our military leaders were incapable of adjusting to fight in a way that would challenge the tactics of the enemy.  US forces were pummeled time, after time.  Take a look at the footage of the escape from the US Embassy at the end.  It is US arrogance that lost it for us there and is losing it for us in Iraq.  Our president stands around &#8220;harumphing&#8221; like Mel Brooks&#8217; gubentorial cabinet in &#8220;Blazing Saddles&#8221;.  No one in charge will face the real facts of why/how these insurgents are there, let alone admit that we miscalculate on the &#8220;waving flowers to our troops issues.  Sure, these people were more than happy to see Saddam disappear, but now our leaders are completely aghast that they won&#8217;t do things the way we tell them.  Also, as hard as it is to understand, there are countries in the world that (for whatever reasons) don&#8217;t want democracy.  Let&#8217;s face it; cultures that are strongly driven by religious dictates are fairly incompatible with the constitutional government that we have here.</p>
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		<title>By: joe</title>
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		<dc:creator>joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Sep 2005 23:11:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Pat -

Pretty cool blog post!  I didn't know.  Thank you for letting us know!  :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Pat -</p>
<p>Pretty cool blog post!  I didn&#8217;t know.  Thank you for letting us know!  <img src='http://www.gaypatriot.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: joe</title>
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		<dc:creator>joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Sep 2005 23:06:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#270 - Yes Pat - QP is pretty definitely Reader.

QP / Reader could conceivably be some others as well, but we (or at least I) don't know anything definite.  QP / Reader has offered some suggestions (that I hadn't raised or thought of) on whomever else he/she/it might be.

Now my main point: in RealClearPolitics today, a Democrat, former NYC Mayor Ed Koch, answers Cindy Sheehan beautifully: http://realclearpolitics.com/Commentary/com-9_27_05_EK.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#270 - Yes Pat - QP is pretty definitely Reader.</p>
<p>QP / Reader could conceivably be some others as well, but we (or at least I) don&#8217;t know anything definite.  QP / Reader has offered some suggestions (that I hadn&#8217;t raised or thought of) on whomever else he/she/it might be.</p>
<p>Now my main point: in RealClearPolitics today, a Democrat, former NYC Mayor Ed Koch, answers Cindy Sheehan beautifully: <a href="http://realclearpolitics.com/Commentary/com-9_27_05_EK.html" rel="nofollow">http://realclearpolitics.com/Commentary/com-9_27_05_EK.html</a></p>
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