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Cindy’s sixteenth (or is it her eighteenth?) minute

Posted by GayPatriotWest at 7:28 pm - September 26, 2005.
Filed under: Annoying Celebrities,Bush-hatred,Liberals

Probably because she was so upset by the fact even CNN devoted too much time yesterday to Hurricane Rita yesterday, thus all but forgetting her rally, Cindy Sheehan, ignored three warnings from police that she — and her cohorts — were breaking the law by sitting in the pedestrian walkway in front of the White House. Had she listened to police, she could have avoided arrest.

In other words, it was a media stunt. Guess she wanted her sixteenth minute of fame. Or is she now on her eighteenth?

In an IM message, Chad of Cake or Death says she’s on her twenty-fourth minute by now. (And tipping my hat to this fine blogger for Cindy’s comment on Rita.)

UPDATE: PrismWarden has pictures while ThatGayConservative notes how even Hillary has dissed Cindy.

GP UPDATE: OneFineJay has some interesting quotes from the “peaceful” anti-war Leftists.

UP-UPDATE: Seems that Cindy’ and her pals announced their intention to get arrested on Sunday, the day before she was arrested. HT: little green footballs.

UP-UP-UPDATE: In commenting on Cindy’s arrest, the Anchoress writes, “it is amazing how much destruction is wrought because of a need to feel loved.” Read the whole thing and Michelle’s post which links it.

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  1. Wowzah! I hadn’t made the connection between Cindy’s Jan Brady-like tantrum yesterday (“All they ever talk about is Rita. Rita! Rita! Rita!”) and her desperate plea for attention by getting arrested today.

    I have never envied ignorant people who don’t follow the news more than I have during the Cindy Lou Moonbat Hypefest.

    Comment by V the K — September 26, 2005 @ 7:34 pm - September 26, 2005

  2. Her smile in the pic says it all.

    Comment by ThatGayConservative — September 26, 2005 @ 7:49 pm - September 26, 2005

  3. OH YEAH!

    She’s right up there with Omerosa trying to turn that 15 minutes into 30!

    GO THE F@#K away!

    Comment by MarkP — September 26, 2005 @ 7:49 pm - September 26, 2005

  4. (re: the Update)

    Wow – good for Hillary!

    Predictions: Look for Cindy to trash Hillary (since Hillary’s not failing to make it ALL ABOUT CINDY), followed by Hillary’s media minions trashing Cindy and the final end of Cindy’s 18 minutes.

    Comment by joe — September 26, 2005 @ 7:58 pm - September 26, 2005

  5. (sorry….meant “since Hillary’s failing to make it ALL ABOUT CINDY…”)

    Comment by joe — September 26, 2005 @ 8:00 pm - September 26, 2005

  6. She should have learned that it is better to be a friend of Bush’s. He forgives everybody no matter how much they lie to get their jobs. He just rehired Brownie as a FEMA consultant. It takes balls to publicly hire incompetant liars.

    What does he think we are stupid?

    Comment by chandler in hollywood — September 26, 2005 @ 8:17 pm - September 26, 2005

  7. #2 TGP, you hit the nail on the head.

    Overheard during the scripted event: “Wheeee!!! Look how much FUN it is to exploit your own son’s death! La la la! What a gas. Let’s everybody do it!!! Oh, wait…I forgot, I’m supposed to be a ‘grieving’ mother. Better look pathetic again. Nah! Sorry, Casey. It’s not about YOU anymore, dearie. And while you’re up there, all of my new friends want you to tell Jay-zus to get lost! Ha ha!!!”

    Comment by glisteny — September 26, 2005 @ 9:18 pm - September 26, 2005

  8. Sorry, meant TGC not TGP.

    Comment by glisteny — September 26, 2005 @ 9:19 pm - September 26, 2005

  9. and so…You remove my post where I’ve posted??

    Please explain. Thanks.

    Comment by monty — September 26, 2005 @ 10:15 pm - September 26, 2005

  10. #4

    You know better than that, Joe. Remember Vince Foster?
    She’ll wind up found in a car with two taps, through a closed window, to the head and it will be ruled suicide.

    Comment by ThatGayConservative — September 26, 2005 @ 10:55 pm - September 26, 2005

  11. #6
    What does he think we are stupid?

    No. Just you. Still looking for a liberal to explain how James Lee Witt was qualified to be FEMA director and now an Emergency Management consultant.

    Comment by ThatGayConservative — September 26, 2005 @ 10:57 pm - September 26, 2005

  12. Chandler, did you say Bush has just re-hired “Brownie”? When? Under what pretense? Did he say why he first fired “Brownie” before he re-hired “Brownie”?

    Comment by Queer Patriot — September 26, 2005 @ 11:12 pm - September 26, 2005

  13. And the top news tonight? The media queen being arrested, not Al Qaida op shot dead

    Comment by Ethan — September 27, 2005 @ 12:41 am - September 27, 2005

  14. Too true, Ethan. The news about the operative is known by many however. Further proof of how unnecessary the average journalist and media organization is today. The ones who need to know, will know. Just look at the last three national elections. America is fine. Let the Left continue gazing in their mirrors.

    Comment by VinceTN — September 27, 2005 @ 12:48 am - September 27, 2005

  15. Drudge’s headline yesterday was “Sheehan Arrested in Cunning Stunt”.

    I couldn’t believe he wrote that.

    (In case you can’t figure out the reason for my disbelief, just swap the first letter on each of the last two words in that headline.)

    Comment by Frank IBC — September 27, 2005 @ 6:50 am - September 27, 2005

  16. God and the people of the Gulf Coast please forgive, but I’m praying for another hurricane to blow onto our shores… it’s the only thing with enough wind to keep Cindy-Zero/Casey-Hero off the front page, the threads, and the air. It was so nice when this loon was vanquished.

    What a terrible thing to be forced to pray and wish for…. it’s all Cindy’s fault.

    Comment by Michigan-Matt — September 27, 2005 @ 8:58 am - September 27, 2005

  17. If you ask me, what we need is more Cindy, not less. The real shame here is that what I and others had predicted has come true: The media has left Cindy to herself and now she’s even more pathetic than before. But the recent silence on Cindy’s latest cunning stunts is just as self-serving for the media as was their initial infatuation with her.

    To cover Cindy now is to cover how truly unhinged and overboard she is. To cover her now is to lose the grieving mom venear and uncover the clearly anti-American groups fronting and supporting her. And doing that is to show how the press was aware of all this all along and kept it from us (well, kept it from their readers/viewers, that is) in favor of painting their own treasured tableau of how even the mothers of soldiers are against this war.

    Comment by ColoradoPatriot — September 27, 2005 @ 9:41 am - September 27, 2005

  18. Well of course she planned it. The look of satisfaction on her face in those pictures is one of “Mission Accomplished”.

    Not really though, Cin. Not much in the news about you today. If you want attention, try dousing yourself in kerosene. I’ll bring the videocamera and matches.

    It’ll be a grand time.

    Comment by Chad — September 27, 2005 @ 12:59 pm - September 27, 2005

  19. Do you think it’s possible she’s getting arrested just to get Jesse Jackson’s attention?

    Comment by V the K — September 27, 2005 @ 1:27 pm - September 27, 2005

  20. VdaK, if she wanted the Rev’s attention, all she’d have to do is wave some C-notes in the air… chant “from the outhouse to the White House”… and promise not to tell the Rev’s wife. That’d bring the ol Rev a runnin.

    Kind of reminds me of the glory days of HowieDean before he showed how far unhinged he could be for the redmeat crowds of the radical Left.

    That’s not to be construed as anything akin to nostalgia for former Vt Gov Dean though, ok?

    Comment by Michigan-Matt — September 27, 2005 @ 2:19 pm - September 27, 2005

  21. I don’t think she’s well but I blame her enablers as much as I blame her. No one “gets over” the death of one of their children but they do heal and they do go on with their lives. She hasn’t. She went more off the deep end than others, right at the start, but to what extent have her new friends kept her there?

    It’s things like that that makes me think that these anti-war people might be evil.

    Comment by Synova — September 27, 2005 @ 2:34 pm - September 27, 2005

  22. Synova, aren’t you assuming she was “balanced” and had it together before her son was killed? I think that might be an error.

    The enablers are just doing what many political operatives think is a good substitute for progress and debate these days: grab onto a 15 minute issue, milk it for all it’s worth, get ready for the next issue. Kind of like operating within the Congressional bubble of Washington… or the rare air of network media news. Similar concepts, strategies, goals, methods.

    Comment by Michigan-Matt — September 27, 2005 @ 3:21 pm - September 27, 2005

  23. No, I’m not assuming she was “balanced” before her son’s death but, just guessing here, I figure she was at least functional. What she appears to be *now* is one of those mothers who feed off the attention they get when their child is sick or dies to the extent that they feed their children poison to make them more sick or even kill their children, often more than one, so they can get their next hit of sympathy. No doubt there’s a name for the disorder but I don’t know what it is.

    Comment by Synova — September 27, 2005 @ 7:07 pm - September 27, 2005

  24. #18
    Chad,
    Was she arrested on a battleship?

    Comment by chandler in hollywood — September 27, 2005 @ 7:44 pm - September 27, 2005

  25. Next stop for Cindy: The Real World Crawford. $5 says she’s taped in the hot tub with Michael Moore before the end of the first episode.

    Street theatre is not just for gays anymore.

    Comment by JT — September 27, 2005 @ 10:03 pm - September 27, 2005

  26. No. 23 posts what may be the ugliest comments I’ve seen here at Gay Patriot since, well yesterday, when she writes: “What she appears to be *now* is one of those mothers who feed off the attention they get when their child is sick or dies to the extent that they feed their children poison to make them more sick or even kill their children, often more than one, so they can get their next hit of sympathy.”

    And to think that you actually believe you’re somehow more righteous than liberals.

    Comment by Queer Patriot — September 27, 2005 @ 10:33 pm - September 27, 2005

  27. Oddly enough,

    I was getting the same feeling. She/it means well but has an agenda of which she’s not willing to expose.

    Comment by monty — September 27, 2005 @ 10:42 pm - September 27, 2005

  28. Synova – you are correct. What Mother Sheehan is experiencing is something called “narcissistic personality disorder” and no, I am NOT making this up. You can Google this topic.

    This is a theory that was advanced by a German psychologist who stated that some people with fragile egos become fixated on a person in their lives (in this case, Casey Sheehan) because they embody all the qualities they (Cindy) wished they had. It is hero-worship in the vast extreme. Often, it takes on a life-consuming form where the victim (Cindy) has no other conscious identity except that as defined by their fixation (i.e. “Casey’s mom,” not “Mrs. Sheehan.”)

    However, when the object of their fixation is no longer around, the victim enters into a severe phase of identity crisis. They begin to compensate for this loss by assuming a grand and in some cases delusional identity where they believe that they are the center of focus. The more bizarre manifestations include symptoms of being overcharged or being taken advantage of because of “who I am.”

    One of the more identifiable people who suffered from this disease prior to Mother Sheehan was Leona Helmsley. Remember her from 1985? She didn’t pay taxes because “only the little people pay taxes.” (Those were her words – and she was a Democrat, FYI.) She ended up convicted of 33 federal crimes including conspiracy to defraud the IRS.

    Incidentally – and in a bit of heavy irony – the public prosecutor who sent her to Club Fed in 1989 was none other than the U.S. attorney for the southern region of New York. You may have heard of him. His name was Rudy Giuliani.

    Do I hate what Cindy says? Yes. Do I hate her? No. She is very, very sick and needs to be put into some serious therapy. She will end up in a rubber room VERY soon if her enablers don’t back off. She makes John Hinckley look sane by comparison.

    Regards,
    Peter Hughes

    Comment by Peter Hughes — September 27, 2005 @ 10:43 pm - September 27, 2005

  29. #26

    Queer Patriot, Please take my comment in #23 together with my earlier comment in #21.

    I feel sorry for Cindy. I don’t think she is being helped by her friends to deal with her grief in a healthy way. And if she’s got a disorder it isn’t something that she *choose* to have. Saying that this is what her behavior resembles isn’t even saying that I’m *right* about that. In anycase, no matter how unpleasant to say it, it does *appear* to be getting to be mostly about Cindy.

    What’s uglier, to suggest she’s ill, or to state that she’s a pre-meditated glory hound standing on her son’s grave?

    Comment by Synova — September 28, 2005 @ 2:52 am - September 28, 2005

  30. But, Peter, what’s it called when that person is fixated on someone else? In other words, is there a clinical term for the disorder which has recently manifested itself as B.D.S.?

    Comment by GayPatriotWest — September 28, 2005 @ 3:10 am - September 28, 2005

  31. No. 29, thought you on the right liked to claim some higher ground when it comes to support for all of the military and all military families. Yet, all I see here is condemnation of military families who don’t share your views on the War On Iraq. You vilify Cindy Sheehan and ascribe various ugly names and ugly psychology to her non-stop. The other night, another military mom, Laurie, visited Gay Patriot to disagree with what she was reading here. Did you welcome her and try to engage her in conversation? No, EVERY Gay Patriot who responded to her tried to clip her knees off by saying she couldn’t be real, that she was my creation. What a vicious, snarling reaction from people who boast of their love and respect for the military.

    Comment by Queer Patriot — September 28, 2005 @ 8:06 am - September 28, 2005

  32. Cindy Sheehan sought the public spotlight. She even hired a left-wing publicist before beginning her stunt at Crawford. Up until now, hiring a publicist was not commonly considered a stage of the grieving process.

    And, having achieved her goal of getting media attention, she proceeded to call America a “morally repugnant” “fascist state.” She went on to call the terrorist butchers in Iraq “freedom fighters” and aligned herself with an organization — Code Pink — that donated over a half-million dollars in supplies to the terrorists that are trying to kill our troops.

    Now, explain again why a person who seeks the public spotlight, then uses it to aid the enemy in a time of war, should not be criticized for that.

    Comment by V the K — September 28, 2005 @ 8:58 am - September 28, 2005

  33. I agree. “Laurie” and Cindy Sheehan are nothing more than exploiters who are trying to use the respect people have for the US military into a means of advancing their moonbat agenda by claiming some sort of protection because they’re “soldiers’ moms”.

    Our love and respect for the military, Queer Patriot, leads us to believe that not a one of them would support what Cindy and “Laurie” do. But, having seen it in the last election, we’re all too aware of the DNC tactic of trying to exploit soldiers when they need them, then spitting on them and calling them “baby-killers” when they don’t do what you want them to do. The reason nobody believed John Kerry and his “band of brothers” schtick was because they knew that Kerry had stood up in front of Congress and lied his head off about all the “war crimes” that his “brothers” were committing as a means of advancing his own political career.

    Only leftists would be stupid enough to claim to “support our troops” when in essence calling them civilian-murdering fascist stormtroopers working under Jew domination. But, as is always shown….they do.

    Comment by North Dallas Thirty — September 28, 2005 @ 11:21 am - September 28, 2005

  34. #31 Now, now, I did not claim Laurie was someone else. I said that she, like other military families, have been drafted and that there’s no reason to be surprised if their political viewpoint vary. Viewpoints of those in the military vary also.

    I don’t recall who was claiming some moral highground in supporting military families but I’d like to ask you what that support is going to look like. Is it never questioning anyone who’s child or spouse is in Iraq? I don’t see why it should be. Is it never pointing out that anti-war protests play into enemy propaganda improving the morale of those who are blowing up civilians or assassinating school teachers in Iraq? Al Jezerra (sp) got some nice pictures of how terribly we’re treating poor Mother Sheehan.

    So much of what the terrorists operating in Iraq do is directed entirely at trying to destroy our will to fight. These aren’t *military* victories. Shooting school teachers or police recruits and government officials is to intimidate Iraqis. The IED’s, messy suicide bombs, none of those things can achieve any sort of military victory, but rather they fuel people like Sheehan. Those things are aimed at us. And every time they *work* it encourages more IED’s and atrocities.

    Why should supporting our military families require NOT pointing out that anything that encourages the enemy to keep on keeping on puts their children or spouses at greater risk?

    Is this a Lib thing where whatever group is supported by never *ever* being questioned about anything and is never *ever* expected to have an adult understanding of the real world? Because in my mind, QP, your effusive welcome of Laurie sounded condescending.

    Comment by Synova — September 28, 2005 @ 12:23 pm - September 28, 2005

  35. #35 – And if you follow the Lib logic to its conclusion, Synova, then every Iraq soldier mother who supports the completion of the mission (so that her son will not have died in vain) should equally be listened to raptly and never ever questioned about anything…..and there are way more of them than Cindy Sheehans, or QP’s coached / faked / condescended to (choose one of the three) “Laurie”.

    Comment by joe — September 28, 2005 @ 1:01 pm - September 28, 2005

  36. (sorry, meant to refer to #34)

    Comment by joe — September 28, 2005 @ 1:01 pm - September 28, 2005

  37. Exactly. As I blogged before, Cindy Sheehan’s organization is full of moonbats who are blaming Bush for their children dying in one-vehicle car accidents.

    Furthermore, any organization that would call the US a “fascist state” while defending Saddam’s ilk as “freedom fighters” is beyond the pale. I do believe they honestly think that Saddam’s regime was less controlling and more democratic than is the United States; I can’t decide whether that level of ignorance is deliberate or not their fault at all.

    Comment by North Dallas Thirty — September 28, 2005 @ 1:36 pm - September 28, 2005

  38. Miss Sheehan has been shamefully dragging her sons name through the mud for months. She is a national embarrassment and needs to go away. The left needs to return her from wherever they dug her up from in the first place.

    Comment by Comrade Thomas — September 28, 2005 @ 3:44 pm - September 28, 2005

  39. Cindy is the William Hung of the shrieking left.

    Comment by The Malcontent — September 28, 2005 @ 6:04 pm - September 28, 2005

  40. #39 – LOL

    And in RealClearPolitics today, a Democrat, former NYC Mayor Ed Koch, answers Cindy Sheehan: http://realclearpolitics.com/Commentary/com-9_27_05_EK.html

    In view of some recent discussion here (as you will see in a minute), this caught my eye:

    “While we recognize the U.S. is far from perfect, we are still head and shoulders above most other countries in the world in every respect. We remain the place where almost all others, given the chance, want to come to live…”

    It reminds me of a question I asked about QP, that neither he nor anyone else answered (thus keeping it open).

    In what sense may QP reasonably call him/her/it-self a “patriot”? At a minimum, a patriot wishes America to succeed in the world, and is proud when America does good things in the world, such as tsunami relief or liberating 50 million Muslims. I don’t believe I have ever seen those qualities from QP. Have you?

    Comment by joe — September 28, 2005 @ 6:55 pm - September 28, 2005

  41. Oh, and one other thing, QP / Reader:

    Your outrage on behalf of “Laurie” doesn’t count because of the many tricks, past and present, you have pulled or are constantly attempting to pull here. You may save the histrionics for someplace where people aren’t looking through you.

    Comment by joe — September 28, 2005 @ 7:01 pm - September 28, 2005

  42. Oh, good, in No. 40, Jingo Joe is back to re-new his argument from The Big Thread that he is patriotically superior to anyone who disagrees with him. He keeps insisting on this. So, isn’t it about time JJ told us exactly what he’s EVER done that would make him a better patriot than, let’s say, Cindy Sheehan, who gave up her son to Bush’s Folly and then stood in the hot Texas sun for a month just to ask the man what was so f’ing noble about his Folly. Let’s start there JJ. How are you a better patriot than Cindy Sheehan?

    And JJ, you shouldn’t remind anyone of the outrage associated with the visit here of Laurie, aka Iraq Soldier Mom. You’re one who immediately called her a fraud. You didn’t even bother to read what she was trying to say. Your wingnuts are so tiny, you saw a couple of words you didn’t like from the lady and went right in for the kill. What a patriot, reflexively jumping ugly with a soldier’s mom who only wanted to ask how you could be so Pro-War-All-The-Time.

    Comment by Queer Patriot — September 28, 2005 @ 9:15 pm - September 28, 2005

  43. So, isn’t it about time JJ told us exactly what he’s EVER done that would make him a better patriot than, let’s say, Cindy Sheehan, who gave up her son to Bush’s Folly and then stood in the hot Texas sun for a month just to ask the man what was so f’ing noble about his Folly.

    Gave up her son, my ass. Her adult son volunteered, not once, but TWICE, to fight in Iraq.

    If she were one of the mothers in Ba’athist Iraq whose twelve-year-old sons were forced away at gunpoint to serve in Saddam’s follies, where they were poorly equipped, trained, starved, and sent on suicide missions, you might have a point.

    Comment by North Dallas Thirty — September 29, 2005 @ 12:36 am - September 29, 2005

  44. That’s a good boy, Thirty. Downplay the fact the woman’s son was killed in Bush’s Folly. Or do you think she made that up?

    Comment by Queer Patriot — September 29, 2005 @ 6:52 am - September 29, 2005

  45. That’s a good boy, Reader. Completely ignore all of Cindy Moonbat’s deranged comments about America being “morally repugnant,” how her son died to “spread the cancer of American Imperialism,” how the people who killed him are “freedom fighters.” Completely ignore the fact that she hired a publicist to make sure her grieving process got massive media exposure. Completely ignore the fact that her Code Pink organization donated a half-million dollars to the terrorists that killed her son. Completely ignore the fact that she lied about her first meeting with Bush. Completely ignore her temper tantrum that a major hurricane got more media coverage than her protest.

    Comment by V the K — September 29, 2005 @ 7:59 am - September 29, 2005

  46. I wonder if the LibLefties who read here and comment often –or maybe it’s only 2-3 folks using varied pseudonyms– have looked closely at their philosophical “comrades-in-arms” who showed up for some of the anti-war rallies this past weekend?

    Can you view those pictures and still tell yourself you support the troops? I’ll grant you, some of the signs weren’t as bad as the despicable anti-war protesters outside Walter Reed lately, but it was close.

    Can you view those pictures and still tell yourself that Mrs. Sheehan is just a grieving Mom thrust upon the national anti-war stage? Grieving? Good God, look at her. She eats up the media attention like Billy Jean King at her prime.

    Can you view those pictures and have pride in this snarky effort to demean America, to give comfort to our international critics and enemies abroad, or try to undermine our troops’ morale? How can you do that and consider yourself an American?

    Can you view those pictures and hide behind the uniquely American and noble traditions of our political culture to promote free speech, right to assemble and petition the govt for redress? That wasn’t free speech. That wasn’t public assembly in the best of traditions like King & civil rights, Hoover’s Army, or the MillionMomMarch –those pictures underscore a media event staged by political opportunists. Don’t even try to hide behind those traditions. This is ALL about cheap, political opportunism for the moment.

    For one, I think it’s unpatriotic. And it irked me to no end that GayLeft activists were right there and prominently taking our community into the depths of the anti-war/anti-Bush rallies.

    We’re going to have to work for years and years to distance the gay rights movement from the opportunists of the LibLeft. The anti-war/anti-Bush rallies proved to me, once again, that our GayLeft brothers and sisters have sold us into political bondage.

    Comment by Michigan-Matt — September 29, 2005 @ 10:13 am - September 29, 2005

  47. That’s a good boy, Thirty. Downplay the fact the woman’s son was killed in Bush’s Folly. Or do you think she made that up?

    Considering that she’s cheering for the very people who killed him, you have to wonder if he was nothing more than the means to advance her moonbat views.

    Comment by North Dallas Thirty — September 29, 2005 @ 10:43 am - September 29, 2005

  48. #45 – And still more: Completely ignore the question you were asked. Completely ignore the fact that Casey Sheehan, not Cindy, is/was the one who made a great sacrifice. (As opposed to suffering a passive loss, then exploiting it for some combination of hate and/or narcissism.)

    #46 – Exactly.

    Overall:

    This makes several times in a row that QP has not answered my question, i.e., shown his/her/its pride or hope in America. One may get the distinct impression QP has none.

    Each time he/she/it is asked, QP / Reader has engaged in pretty wild diversionary attacks. (Unlike QP, I answered his/her/its question to me, to a logically suitable level; QP may find the answer here.)

    Just as I had to conclude Reader was no reader, it would seem QP is no patriot.

    Comment by joe — September 29, 2005 @ 10:57 am - September 29, 2005

  49. Some lovely thoughts to stimulate the fellas here this morning:

    No. 45, you act like you know something about Cindy Sheehan. You don’t, so you just make things up. I’ve never seen a man hate a woman any more than you hate her – which, unfortunately, feeds into a whole bunch of stereotypes about gay folk.

    No. 46, your vent there covers a lot of ground – too much for a working girl to deal today, but one statement just jumps out at us when you say, “we’re going to have to work for years and years to distance the gay rights movement from the opportunists of the LibLeft”. I laughed, thinking, silly kid, he doesn’t even realize that there’d be no gay rights movement without what he calls the LibLeft. Ah, youth…

    No. 47, still waiting on your apology for your charge (in another thread) that I “pay people to commit illegal acts”. Until I see your apology, then I have to figure that there’s not much worthwhile in anything you have to say on any subject.

    No. 48, our dear Jingo Joe again: First, congrats JJ for FINALLY getting the message that your repeated single-line posts are tiresome. I see you’re starting to get your thoughts together here all at once. Nice to know QP does some good every now and then. But, Jingo, you keep insisting that I prove my patriotism. Most of us long ago recognized that when some dick challenges us to “prove” our patriotism, then we all we have to do is ask “just what’s so patriotic about you that you can dare question my patriotism”. Why do you think they call it the “last refuge of scoundrels”?

    Comment by Queer Patriot — September 29, 2005 @ 11:34 am - September 29, 2005

  50. #49 — I linked and sourced my assertions re: Cindy Moonbat in a previous thread. If you have anything that exonerates her, please source and link to it. Or, simply google “Cindy Sheehan” and the statements attributed to her.

    Comment by V the K — September 29, 2005 @ 11:40 am - September 29, 2005

  51. #51 – Exposing a trickster is so much fun.

    No QP, I haven’t ever asked you to prove your patriotism.

    What I’ve asked you do to is, for once in your life, to express some kind of pride or hope in America.

    You still can’t do it. That’s astounding.

    Comment by joe — September 29, 2005 @ 11:42 am - September 29, 2005

  52. Oh and P.S. – Nobody with brains gives a damn if people have afterthoughts on their posts and type in an extra one-liner. (as here) Enjoy! 😉

    Comment by joe — September 29, 2005 @ 11:43 am - September 29, 2005

  53. (final P.S. – and obviously I would mean your expressing some kind of sincere pride or hope in America – something not a snarky argument, for once)

    Comment by joe — September 29, 2005 @ 11:46 am - September 29, 2005

  54. No. 45, you act like you know something about Cindy Sheehan. You don’t, so you just make things up. I’ve never seen a man hate a woman any more than you hate her – which, unfortunately, feeds into a whole bunch of stereotypes about gay folk.

    LOL…..unfortunately, V the K isn’t making it up.

    No. 47, still waiting on your apology for your charge (in another thread) that I “pay people to commit illegal acts”. Until I see your apology, then I have to figure that there’s not much worthwhile in anything you have to say on any subject.

    I should only be so lucky. I stand by that statement.

    Comment by North Dallas Thirty — September 29, 2005 @ 11:47 am - September 29, 2005

  55. QP, just like the negative politics of BushHate from the GayLeft isn’t a substitute for leadership or ideas, your chatty and breezy response is no substitute for informed opinion.

    I think VdaK, NDallasXXX, and joe have you pegged.

    No vents by me: the GayLeft fringe is destroying any gain our community might claim or prosper by… and for what? A seat at the DNC table? What a waste.

    Take my three snaps and get back on the local Pride Float, QueerP. You’re as alien to me as HowieDean.

    joe’s got it right: you weren’t a reader in your last incarnation; you aren’t a patriot in this one.

    Comment by Michigan-Matt — September 29, 2005 @ 11:50 am - September 29, 2005

  56. #54 – “…Until you…..I have to figure that there’s not much worthwhile in anything you have to say on any subject…”

    said the fox to the grapes 😉

    #55 – LOL

    Comment by joe — September 29, 2005 @ 12:02 pm - September 29, 2005

  57. Via Powerline – a great column where a returning soldier answers Cindy Sheehan.

    So many choice quotes, it’s hard to decide what to extract as an appetizer….

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    Katherine Kersten, Star Tribune
    September 29, 2005 KERSTEN0929

    [….]

    …Back in Minnesota, Marine Col. Jeff Vold watched the protest unfold. Unlike the demonstrators, Vold knows Iraq firsthand….Vold ticks off the extraordinary progress underway in Iraq. In Ramadi, he witnessed ordinary Iraqis braving mortar fire to vote in the January 2005 elections. In just two weeks, on Oct. 15, he adds, these courageous people will have another historic opportunity — a chance to vote on Iraq’s new constitution.

    Across Iraq, Americans and Iraqis are working together to reclaim the country from Baathists and terrorists. They are building or refurbishing schools, hospitals, roads and sewer systems. “The battle with the terrorists left Fallujah in rubble,” says Vold. “But every day, people thanked us. ‘We might have to rebuild our house,’ they said, ‘but you gave us back our city.’ ”

    …”When I got back from Iraq, I was disappointed — astounded, really — to read the news. The media was saying it’s all a failure, while we saw successes around us every day.”….

    …Antiwar demonstrators sometimes claim that their prime motivation is concern for the safety of American troops….But it doesn’t work that way, says Vold. “I try not to take it personally. The reason I’m a Marine is to ensure this is a free country. But I don’t think the protesters know the effect they’re having on the soldiers. You’re always tired, cold or hot, homesick. The last thing you need is a sense that people back home say your mission is doomed, when you see good things happening all the time.”

    Vold adds that antiwar rhetoric sometimes implicitly portrays soldiers as dupes on a fool’s errand. “We volunteered to go to Iraq. The guys over there, who know the situation best, are re-enlisting in great numbers. Most of the guys I served with think this is the best thing America has done in our careers.”

    …I asked Vold’s friend, Lt. Col. James MacVarish, an adviser to Iraqi troops in Fallujah. He told me…Iraqis “are absolutely astounded that we ‘allow’ [the undermining protests] to continue.” A few days ago, he had to give his Iraqi colleagues an hourlong civics lesson on freedom of the press.

    MacVarish says that the terrorists can’t win militarily…. What would a terrorist victory mean? “If we leave before the new government is established and the Iraqi Army is ready,” says Vold, “the people will be at the mercy of the bad guys”….MacVarish minces no words: “If the terrorists win over here, stand by. There will be no stopping them anywhere in the world.”

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    Pruning as hard as I could, that’s still close to half. Read the whole thing.

    Comment by joe — September 29, 2005 @ 12:39 pm - September 29, 2005

  58. I liked the remark about the hour long civics lesson on freedom of the press. I don’t know how many times I’ve tried to explain to someone that Bin Laden or Saddam or whomever don’t understand the concept and that they must conclude that if Bush doesn’t control the press it’s only because he *can’t*.

    And it’s hard to explain, too. Back in college a couple friends and I tried to explain freedom of speech to some Malasian exchange students that couldn’t understand why we’d allow the exportation of movies or television shows that make the US look bad. The concept was alien to them and we took it so for granted that we did a terrible job. I might be able to explain better now how it’s better that the world think of the US in terms of Baywatch and trailer trash airing their dirty laundry on talk shows than to stifle freedom of speech.

    Comment by Synova — September 29, 2005 @ 4:06 pm - September 29, 2005

  59. #49 “I’ve never seen a man hate a woman any more than you hate her – which, unfortunately, feeds into a whole bunch of stereotypes about gay folk”

    Admitting ignorance here, which stereotypes might those be? Lesbians being man-haters, I’m aware of. The only stereotype I know about the relationship of gay men to straight women is that gay men make really fantastic friends.

    Comment by Synova — September 29, 2005 @ 4:11 pm - September 29, 2005

  60. Actually, the “Nunh-unh, you made that up” argument is really cute when a third grader does it.

    Comment by V the K — September 29, 2005 @ 5:58 pm - September 29, 2005

  61. The Anchoress has posted today that Cindy has just about used up all of Casey’s insurance money.

    Comment by Synova — September 29, 2005 @ 9:45 pm - September 29, 2005

  62. Asexual Former NYC Mayor Ed Koch Denounces Cindy Sheehan and reconfirms the points Reader claims I made up.

    Comment by V the K — September 30, 2005 @ 8:46 am - September 30, 2005

  63. Jingo Joe, I knew that sooner or later you’d say something like this in No. 51 above: “No QP, I haven’t ever asked you to prove your patriotism.”

    The hell you haven’t. Try looking right above here in No. 40, or at your No. 101 comment in The Big Thread below, or at your No. 161 of the same Big Thread.

    You know what that makes you Jingo. And a bald-faced one at that. No wonder we always see you hanging out here with Thirty, the bi-sexual who doesn’t like “vocal” gay folk and who has stated here again (with ZERO evidence) that QP “pays people to commit crimes”, and with ThatGayCon and VtheK. All of you share something in common — you’ll make up whatever you think might suit your arguments, going so far as to even bash the moms of soldiers, even dead ones. Some patriots you all are.

    Comment by Queer Patriot — September 30, 2005 @ 1:38 pm - September 30, 2005

  64. I guess I shouldn’t hold my breath waiting for Kewpie to post something that actually might support his claim that I made up stuff about Cindy Sheehan.

    Comment by V the K — September 30, 2005 @ 3:29 pm - September 30, 2005

  65. No. 64, why — whenever I see your name — do I get an image of a man in a cape, with slicked back hair, and fangs dripping red?

    Comment by Queer Patriot — September 30, 2005 @ 9:26 pm - September 30, 2005

  66. And your psychotic synesthesia disorder demonstrates that I “made up” stuff about Cindy Sheehan how?

    Comment by V the K — September 30, 2005 @ 10:21 pm - September 30, 2005

  67. No. 66, as we’ve seen with you in your hate-Cindy campaign in the past, let someone refute one of your concoctions and you’ll respond with three more; so why should anyone bother, unless they enjoy watching you cook?

    Comment by Queer Patriot — October 1, 2005 @ 8:56 am - October 1, 2005

  68. I don’t hate Mother Moonbat, but I’m not gonna let her talk sh*t about my country without a response. My guess is, QowPie has been desperately trying to find a refutation to even one of my accurate quotes and assertions about Cindy Sheehan, and has been disheartened to find that they are all accurate. However, he lacks the character and honesty to admit it.

    Comment by V the K — October 1, 2005 @ 10:35 am - October 1, 2005

  69. ROTFLMFTO — No. 68 talking about “character and honesty”. Very rich.

    Comment by Queer Patriot — October 1, 2005 @ 5:30 pm - October 1, 2005

  70. In other words, you can’t answe, QP, so you’re trying a character smear. Can we then assume that you feel the same way as Cindy Sheehan does?

    Comment by North Dallas Thirty — October 2, 2005 @ 2:54 am - October 2, 2005

  71. And in No. 70, running to the defence of Vlad The…, is M. Bi-Sexual Gay Patriot, who has already told us it detests vocal gay people, believes they’re making an easy choice to be gay, and recommends reparative therapy to them. Yeah, we really need a lecture on “character and honesty” from that one!

    Comment by Queer Patriot — October 2, 2005 @ 9:07 am - October 2, 2005

  72. Let’s see, QP accuses me of lying, presents zero evidence to prove that I’m lying, and when challenged says he doesn’t have to present evidence. Then, he claims I have no character? Heh.

    Comment by V the K — October 2, 2005 @ 9:51 am - October 2, 2005

  73. Well, what else would you expect? At least QP has been consistent (in his bad qualities) across his/her/its many incarnations.

    Comment by joe — October 3, 2005 @ 12:52 pm - October 3, 2005

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