NC Congresswoman Wants To Crack Down on Illegals
After Virginia turned a shade of purple in yesterday’s election, Patriot Partner and I are looking more forward than ever to get out of Dodge and go to our new home of Charlotte. 30 days to move-in!
So I was thrilled to see that my new Congresswoman (and possible candidate for Governor!!) Sue Myrick is taking a strong approach on curbing illegal immigration.
Myrick: NC must halt illegal drivers licenses – Charlotte Observer (subscription required)
“Basically, we’re here to call on the governor (Mike Easley) and the legislature in North Carolina to stop issuing driver’s licenses to illegal aliens,” said Myrick, who was joined by GOP Reps. Patrick McHenry of Cherryville and Virginia Foxx of Banner Elk — both former members of the N.C. legislature.
Myrick’s immigration bill, her third this year, targets an issue that has angered her base of conservative supporters.
North Carolina is home to an estimated 300,000 undocumented immigrants. For them, a driver’s license is more than just legal authorization to drive. It’s a government-approved ID, complete with a picture. Flashing this prized possession can make it easier to keep a job, cash a check or find a place to live.
While we’re at it… let’s mandate photo ID’s to vote!!!
Contrast Rep. Myrick’s action with the sorry lillegal immigration mess we are leaving in Northern Virginia…..
Judicial Watch, a conservative watchdog group, added Fairfax County as a defendant in a lawsuit questioning the legality of day labor hiring sites.
The group sued the Town of Herndon earlier this year on behalf of six town residents, questioning the town’s use of public land for a managed day labor site that will be operated by a nonprofit group, Project Hope and Harmony.
Since then, Fairfax County supervisors approved $400,000 in funding to allow some management of three of the four informal day labor sites in the county.
Carolina’s on my mind!!
- Bruce (GayPatriot)
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Gotta say, as liberal as I am, I do agree with most of this post. Arent we supposed to be tightening who can get in to the country since 9/11? Still, to do this day, all I have to show is a Driver’s License to get on a plane. Handing a state, photo ID to someone who can’t prove their citizenship or legal right to be in the country, is just nuts.
One question though, how does having just a driver’s license get someone a job? For years, I-9 forms have been required for all legal hiring. You can show a driver’s license (or other ID card) but it must be shown with a second ID proving that the person has the right to work in the U.S. It’s not a guarantee of getting a job, but then again, handing someone 1/2 of what they need to get a legal job may not be such a good idea.
On a similar note, I’m curious what people think of the movement by legal aliens to get the right to vote in the U.S. The idea here is that because they pay taxes on their income, they should be able to vote. My own idea: if you want to vote in the US, then become a citizen.
Comment by Kevin — November 9, 2005 @ 8:14 pm - November 9, 2005
The reason the left is pushing for extending voting rights to legal (and illegal) aliens is that because the Democrat party has become so alienated from the mainstream that they need the votes of legal (and illegal) immgrants, felons, and dead people just to maintain electoral viability.
Comment by V the K — November 9, 2005 @ 8:27 pm - November 9, 2005
So far, I have not seen any demonstrated connection to identifying “immigrants” and stopping “potential terrorists”. As a purely-pragmatic security issue, I’d rather focus on knowing who EVERYONE is on U.S. soil, their true name and origin…and worry less about how they got here in the first place. No more false ID’s, fake SS#’s and phony “papers”. We’re about 10-million-and-counting too-late worrying about “border security”. And we should be encouraging US citizenship for all here, and get rid of the various visa-programs and such that prevent Canadian, Mexican and others here for years and even decades from becoming “productive” tax-paying citizens.
Hell, I’d even go for saying to the “criminal classes” that if you pay every-penny according to the tax-laws, we’ll not prosecute you for tax-evasion; though we will for the illegal activity that generated the money in the first place, and expend “priviledge” to tax-preparers so long as the tax were paid. Since tax-evasion the favorite way to bust-’em, tax compliance would sky-rocket.
This done, we can then effectively deny the borders to the smugglers and narco-businesses that are doing far more damage to the U.S. than the “threat” of International Terrorism. Stream-line the legal border-crossings and Customs-stations at our airports and seaports to the regulated entry of all, and close the borders to irregular trade in both drugs, material and potential WMDs in trucks, planes and containerships.
Bright light scares off the cockroaches. Get the “people” out of the shade at the border, then you can concentrate on the real national interests of “controlling a frontier”. What we are doing now on “immigration” is about as effective and cost-efficient as the TSA operations at the airports….meaningless, inconvenient, expensive, and ultimately useless.
Comment by Ted B. — November 9, 2005 @ 9:20 pm - November 9, 2005
#2: Yeah, this is another one of your statements where you blanketly ascribe this situation to democrats. Please provide some backup (also that this is currently happening and not back in 1860 or some other distant date)
As I recall, when Bush proposed his ill-fated guest worker program, didn’t he also indicate that they should have the right to vote, even though they weren’t citizens? We could also get into a long, drawn out, back and forth about how people who are citizens and registered to vote were denied that right to vote because large numbers of them had been ‘accidentally’ removed from voter roles in a certain southern state a few years back. As I recall, this situation directly benefited a Republican candidate.
Comment by Kevin — November 9, 2005 @ 9:38 pm - November 9, 2005
As I recall, when Bush proposed his ill-fated guest worker program, didn’t he also indicate that they should have the right to vote, even though they weren’t citizens?
No.
You’re thinking of the Democrats, who demanded that anyone who has been in the country for a couple of years illegally be given the right to vote.
#2: Yeah, this is another one of your statements where you blanketly ascribe this situation to democrats. Please provide some backup (also that this is currently happening and not back in 1860 or some other distant date)
Right here.
You see, Kevin, having to show photo ID like a driver’s license would immediately disqualify illegal aliens, felons, and other people who aren’t allowed to get one from voting. It also would prevent people from voting as a dead person, or as someone else. And, since IDs are issued officially, tampering with or forging one is a crime — and fake ones can be easily identified.
But because you’re a Dembot, you’ll now reverse yourself and spin that giving illegal aliens the right to vote is a great idea and that requiring photo IDs to vote is “racist”. Or maybe you’ll do like you usually do when your idiocy is exposed and just run away without commenting.
Comment by North Dallas Thirty — November 9, 2005 @ 10:24 pm - November 9, 2005
I don’t recall anyone seriously suggesting that illegals be given voting rights. That’s just a silly idea as voting should be reserved only for US citizens.
When it comes to driver’s licenses, the simple fact is that if illegals are in areas w/out adequate mass transportation, they are going to drive with or w/out licenses. You can either find a way to license them, require them to learn the rules of the road, and obtain insurance or you can not license them and pay the consequences….to me, from purely an economic perspective, it makes sense to give them the ability to drive legally. And there are some safety considerations as well.
That being said, I think the ID issue is a little bit more complex than most conservaitves care to admit when it comes to presenting ID to vote.
In my work (I’m a social worker who works with the homeless), I see people daily who have lost all ID. If you have no identifying documents, it’s quite difficult to get any, especially if you have little or no income or anything official with your name on it. It’s almost impossible to obtain a birth certificate from many states if you have no ID. From there, there are even more barriers that I don’t need to go into here.
I’m all for people proving citizenship in order to vote, but to put such a system in place, you must change the system we have to get people ID so that if your house burns down or if you become homeless and are then robbed, you can get your ID without the huge barriers that now exist.
Comment by Billy Zoom — November 10, 2005 @ 12:50 am - November 10, 2005
But if you outlaw immigration only outlaws will immigrate.
Comment by Gaylord McGay — November 10, 2005 @ 10:19 am - November 10, 2005
So, basically, #6 wants to hold the integrity of the entire electoral system hostage to people who have too little personal responsibility to keep track of a voter card and the tiny number of people who temporarily lose them through circumstances beyond their control. Both of those situations are probably coovered by provisional ballots, which can be counted once the voter’s eligibility is verified. (Unlike in Seattle, Cleveland, Milwaukee, and Detroit where they count the provisional ballots without verification).
Comment by V the K — November 10, 2005 @ 10:35 am - November 10, 2005
#4
We could also get into a long, drawn out, back and forth about how people who are citizens and registered to vote were denied that right to vote because large numbers of them had been ‘accidentally’ removed from voter roles in a certain southern state a few years back. As I recall, this situation directly benefited a Republican candidate.
You could, but you’d be full of it.
However, if you wanted to talk about a certain liberal candidate doing all he could to throw out overseas military votes and demanding recounts until he finally won, then you’d be onto something.
Comment by ThatGayConservative — November 10, 2005 @ 5:16 pm - November 10, 2005
10: Yes, but let’s also not forget the picture of “grassroots, outraged citizens” who stormed one of the buildings where re-counting was going on who screamed and yelled to stop the re-counting. A force of the citizenry to be reckoned with, until every one of them was identified as being in the employ of, or associated with, conservative members of congress who were flown in from other states to stage such demonstration.
You also conveniently omit the fact that the “MSM”, liberal and hating of conservatives, reported very little about the issues that happened in that election. In addition, respected foriegn news agencies did quite a bit of investigating, including a documentary, about the situation, yet somehow we never really saw any of this in thsi coutnry. hmmmmmm
Comment by Kevin — November 10, 2005 @ 8:19 pm - November 10, 2005
Nice post, GP. I’m sure you’ll be very happy in NC.
I can’t add anything to V the K’s comment:
The reason the left is pushing for extending voting rights to legal (and illegal) aliens is that because the Democrat party has become so alienated from the mainstream that they need the votes of legal (and illegal) immgrants, felons, and dead people just to maintain electoral viability.
But this comment by Gaylord McGay is nonsense: But if you outlaw immigration only outlaws will immigrate.
No one is suggesting outlawing immigration. People like me immigrate legally all the time. We just don’t like people to sneak in dishonestly and then get treated like they aren’t criminals which they are the moment they cross the border illegally.
Comment by PatC — November 10, 2005 @ 11:06 pm - November 10, 2005