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Open Thread on Bush’s Sunday Night Speech

Posted by GayPatriot at 6:46 pm - December 18, 2005.
Filed under: War On Terror

Feel free to leave your comments “live” during the President’s speech tonight which begins at 9:00PM Eastern Time.

I will do a posting after the speech with my thoughts.

UPDATE: Some advance excerpts of the speech have been released…. The Corner has ‘em.

On the challenges in Iraq:

“Some look at the challenges in Iraq, and conclude that the war is lost, and not worth another dime or another day. I don’t believe that. Our military commanders do not believe that. Our troops in the field, who bear the burden and make the sacrifice, do not believe that America has lost. And not even the terrorists believe it. We know from their own communications that they feel a tightening noose – and fear the rise of a democratic Iraq.”

On the consequences of withdrawal:

“It is also important for every American to understand the consequences of pulling out of Iraq before our work is done. We would abandon our Iraqi friends – and signal to the world that America cannot be trusted to keep its word . . . . We would hand Iraq over to enemies who have pledged to attack us – and the global terrorist movement would be emboldened and more dangerous than ever before.”

-Bruce (GayPatriot)

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48 Comments

  1. Can’t wait to hear it. Hope he tells it to the Dems like it is!!!

    Comment by Calarato — December 18, 2005 @ 7:04 pm - December 18, 2005

  2. Shoulda been done months ago.

    Comment by sonicfrog — December 18, 2005 @ 7:15 pm - December 18, 2005

  3. Some look at the challenges in Iraq,

    Why dance around it. We know that it’s the liberals.

    Comment by ThatGayConservative — December 18, 2005 @ 7:35 pm - December 18, 2005

  4. The President really needs to hit a homerun with this one. It’s already recieved a lot of hipe… so hopefully it’ll be convincing. Maybe finally war critics will shut up. Perhaps thats just wishful thinking.

    Comment by Kevin W — December 18, 2005 @ 7:58 pm - December 18, 2005

  5. The President has already hit many home runs with many excellent speeches, recently and over the past 2-3 years, explaining his plan for victory in Iraq.

    Unfortunately, the media and Democrats filter him out very heavily, “respond” to points he never made, fail to respond to points he did make, etc. (like some commentors here ;-) ) and I doubt that will change.

    Comment by Calarato — December 18, 2005 @ 8:07 pm - December 18, 2005

  6. He has a blue tie on tonight. I wonder what the dems will think that means.

    Comment by PatriotPal — December 18, 2005 @ 9:03 pm - December 18, 2005

  7. good, he acknowledged that some of the intelligence was wrong, but takes responsibility for going in there. still the right decision — hammer than one home, W

    Comment by PatriotPal — December 18, 2005 @ 9:04 pm - December 18, 2005

  8. He looks good tonight. He sometimes looks a little stiff speaking from the oval office. He’s engaged tonight.

    Comment by PatriotPal — December 18, 2005 @ 9:05 pm - December 18, 2005

  9. Nothing new, but the liberals still won’t get it.

    Comment by ThatGayConservative — December 18, 2005 @ 9:05 pm - December 18, 2005

  10. Talking with his hands like his dad. Where’s Dana Carvey? ;)

    Comment by ThatGayConservative — December 18, 2005 @ 9:07 pm - December 18, 2005

  11. is someone trying to send a morse code message over his right shoulder (on our left)? there is, at times, a blinking light/refelction.

    Comment by PatriotPal — December 18, 2005 @ 9:08 pm - December 18, 2005

  12. I just see his reflection over his left, but it looks like someone is looking from behind the US flag.

    Comment by ThatGayConservative — December 18, 2005 @ 9:10 pm - December 18, 2005

  13. maybe its karl rove behind the flag? pay NO attention to the man behind the flag!

    Comment by PatriotPal — December 18, 2005 @ 9:12 pm - December 18, 2005

  14. Defeatists=liberals.

    Comment by ThatGayConservative — December 18, 2005 @ 9:12 pm - December 18, 2005

  15. Good. Don’t let Congress try to run the conflict.

    Comment by ThatGayConservative — December 18, 2005 @ 9:14 pm - December 18, 2005

  16. Its a lot of the same from the past month, BUT if people are watching, this could get him another point or two in the polls. Its one of his better delivered addresses he’s done in a while.

    Comment by PatriotPal — December 18, 2005 @ 9:17 pm - December 18, 2005

  17. OH MY! he said CHRISTmas!!!!!!

    Comment by PatriotPal — December 18, 2005 @ 9:17 pm - December 18, 2005

  18. He said “God”!
    The ACLU commandos will be storming the WH any moment now.

    Comment by ThatGayConservative — December 18, 2005 @ 9:18 pm - December 18, 2005

  19. Overall, a good job. Bruce, your thoughts?

    Comment by PatriotPal — December 18, 2005 @ 9:18 pm - December 18, 2005

  20. “Victory or defeat”.
    Why so black and white? Why not a nice liberal shade of gray?

    Comment by ThatGayConservative — December 18, 2005 @ 9:19 pm - December 18, 2005

  21. I think you and I are it, Pal.

    Comment by ThatGayConservative — December 18, 2005 @ 9:20 pm - December 18, 2005

  22. Oh jeesh he wished us all a merry Christmas and a happy Hannukkah… He didn’t say Happy Holidays!! There goes that speech right down the drain…

    Anyway… I thought it was … good. Somewhat convincing, but probably not for hardcore anti-war people.

    Comment by Kevin W — December 18, 2005 @ 9:21 pm - December 18, 2005

  23. Fred Barnes hit the nail on the head.

    Comment by ThatGayConservative — December 18, 2005 @ 9:21 pm - December 18, 2005

  24. #22

    Somewhat?

    Comment by ThatGayConservative — December 18, 2005 @ 9:22 pm - December 18, 2005

  25. TV’s in a different room for me, so I didn’t live comment.

    Very effective, I thought. His explanation of “defeatism” vs. constructive criticism (which is good) got my attention.

    Comment by Calarato — December 18, 2005 @ 9:23 pm - December 18, 2005

  26. hardcore anti-war peeps will never be convinced.

    Comment by PatriotPal — December 18, 2005 @ 9:23 pm - December 18, 2005

  27. How does Nacny Pelosi spin this one?

    Comment by PatriotPal — December 18, 2005 @ 9:24 pm - December 18, 2005

  28. I wish you all would go back and read this thread from the beginning.

    You are ALL, indeed, coming unglued. Please don’t stroke each other like that in a public place. :)

    SNAP OUT OF IT!!

    monty

    Comment by monty — December 18, 2005 @ 9:25 pm - December 18, 2005

  29. Also, I thought he did a great job acknowledging the sacrifices and telling his crazy-hate critics, Look, I don’t take any of these decisions lightly.

    The hard core critics won’t be convinced – but they don’t matter. The political center matters, and gets a good reminder that he’s NOT the hateful caricature portrayed by moonbats.

    Comment by Calarato — December 18, 2005 @ 9:26 pm - December 18, 2005

  30. ‘monty’ talking to himself again…

    Comment by Calarato — December 18, 2005 @ 9:27 pm - December 18, 2005

  31. BTW…..
    Merry f*cking Xmas and Happy Holy Days. Same for the Jewish persuasion.

    And “Season’s Greetings” to all the other lifestyle choices out there. :)

    Sincerely,
    All the best to you all.

    monty

    Comment by monty — December 18, 2005 @ 9:31 pm - December 18, 2005

  32. Yes, Calarato.

    If you are the only creature here…..I am, indeed, only talking to myself. :)

    monty

    Comment by monty — December 18, 2005 @ 9:33 pm - December 18, 2005

  33. Monty’s stroking himself.

    Comment by ThatGayConservative — December 18, 2005 @ 9:35 pm - December 18, 2005

  34. Susan Turnbull is spinning it on Fox.

    Comment by ThatGayConservative — December 18, 2005 @ 9:37 pm - December 18, 2005

  35. LMAO!! :)

    The usual TGC retort. Don’t eat that Tootsie Roll in your sandbox, Mr. Bi/Fundie. I don’t care how much you may like the taste. :)

    monty

    Comment by monty — December 18, 2005 @ 9:40 pm - December 18, 2005

  36. What a lame attempt to turn it back on me, Monte. I’m disappointed.

    Comment by Calarato — December 18, 2005 @ 9:42 pm - December 18, 2005

  37. #35

    How pathetic.

    Comment by ThatGayConservative — December 18, 2005 @ 9:45 pm - December 18, 2005

  38. ?????

    Why do you always think it’s ALL about you, Calarato? :) Get a grip!

    Bush IS getting better with his speeches. However, he’d have to do alot to regain my trust. I sincerely hope he does.

    monty

    Comment by monty — December 18, 2005 @ 9:48 pm - December 18, 2005

  39. #38

    However, he’d have to do alot to regain my trust.

    You mean like spending more time dumping his DNA on a dress instead of dealing with terrorism?

    Comment by ThatGayConservative — December 18, 2005 @ 10:01 pm - December 18, 2005

  40. Why don’t one of you give him a blowjob so we can impeach him?

    Comment by hank — December 18, 2005 @ 10:14 pm - December 18, 2005

  41. :) :)

    Say some more, please, TGC.

    LMAO.

    A dress can be cleaned….a “goddamned piece of paper” like the Constitution can’t be dry cleaned……and the dead can’t come back to life. :(

    From this point on, you talk to yourself…..needlessly, as usual.

    monty

    Comment by monty — December 18, 2005 @ 10:14 pm - December 18, 2005

  42. We seriously all need to get lives.

    Comment by Hello Moto — December 18, 2005 @ 11:36 pm - December 18, 2005

  43. Yup
    They drive every sane person outta here. Without a dissenting voice they’ll turn on each other, and the world will be a better place.

    Comment by hank — December 19, 2005 @ 12:38 am - December 19, 2005

  44. Hank, you have yet to demonstrate either sanity or goodwill, so you needn’t attempt to lecture your betters, either directly or via your preferred snarkiness.

    Comment by Calarato — December 19, 2005 @ 12:49 am - December 19, 2005

  45. Before I forget Hank: Do also keep working on that “walking away” thing that you promised to do here, 27 minutes BEFORE your above comment, and promised in other places as well, yet can never stick to after having made the big announcement.

    Comment by Calarato — December 19, 2005 @ 12:53 am - December 19, 2005

  46. #43

    You call showing your ass “dissent”?

    Comment by ThatGayConservative — December 19, 2005 @ 5:46 am - December 19, 2005

  47. God forbid the man doesn’t have a Teleprompter…or has to speak off the cuff…can you say” dumb and dumber”…lets put him in front of average Americans with important questions…choke, choke…ah ahhhhh

    Comment by JRC — December 19, 2005 @ 9:09 am - December 19, 2005

  48. Bush’s all important standings in the precious polls are up and Monty and JRC get manic and personal.

    Life is as it should be.

    Comment by VinceTN — December 19, 2005 @ 5:44 pm - December 19, 2005

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