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	<title>Comments on: Last Chance to Vote for Conservative Blogress Diva/Why Gay Men Like Strong Women</title>
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		<title>By: GayPatriotWest</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2005/12/30/last-chance-to-vote-for-conservative-blogress-divawhy-gay-men-like-stong-women/#comment-10367</link>
		<dc:creator>GayPatriotWest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jan 2006 02:22:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mythological Studies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mythological Studies.</p>
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		<title>By: rightwingprof</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2005/12/30/last-chance-to-vote-for-conservative-blogress-divawhy-gay-men-like-stong-women/#comment-10366</link>
		<dc:creator>rightwingprof</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jan 2006 21:09:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And what field are you doing your PhD in?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And what field are you doing your PhD in?</p>
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		<title>By: dr. d\\\\\\\'claw</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2005/12/30/last-chance-to-vote-for-conservative-blogress-divawhy-gay-men-like-stong-women/#comment-10365</link>
		<dc:creator>dr. d\\\\\\\'claw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jan 2006 04:17:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where are you doing your PhD, Dan? Have you seen the interesting comparisons of Brokeback to the Aeneid?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where are you doing your PhD, Dan? Have you seen the interesting comparisons of Brokeback to the Aeneid?</p>
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		<title>By: North Dallas Thirty</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2005/12/30/last-chance-to-vote-for-conservative-blogress-divawhy-gay-men-like-stong-women/#comment-10364</link>
		<dc:creator>North Dallas Thirty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Dec 2005 17:42:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;As you cast your vote for grand conservative blogress diva, please join me in pondering why it is that so many gay men honor strong and confident women.&lt;/i&gt;

Simple. They, like gay conservatives, are people whose existence and success matches the public goals of their respective movements, but not the private, ulterior motives -- and, as a result, are attacked and distrusted by both sides.

For instance, feminism publicly (and correctly) pushed for the right and reality of women to have a career without being disadvantaged because of their gender. However, the ulterior motive in feminism was that women MUST have a career; to ensure compliance, they came up with the notion that CHOOSING to be a stay-at-home mom or a housewife was to be "less of a person" and to "subjugate oneself to male domination". At the same time, the wingnut right who extrapolate prominence in SPIRITUAL affairs to prominence in ALL affairs publicly acceded, but made it privately obvious that women who concerned themselves with home and family were "better".

In short, both sides give women the "choice", but make it obvious that there is only one "correct" choice,&lt;b&gt; because their ideology and power rests on that specific outcome&lt;/b&gt;. Women like our blogress divas, who support a woman's choice of career or home regardless of the outcome are a threat to both groups and are seen as subversive to their entire ideology. No one who supports women's rights and competence can stay at home; no one who is worthy to be a mother can have a career.

The same happens with gay conservatives. The avowed goal of the "gay movement" is to celebrate the diversity and "normalcy" of the gay community, to show that we are people just like everyone else and deserve the same rights, just as the wingnut right claims to embrace anyone who supports God, motherhood, and apple pie. However, the ulterior motive of each group is to weld a powerful and unified voting bloc which can be sold to the highest bidder; gay conservatives, who refuse to go along with the antigay bigotry of a Donald Wildmon or the mindless Democratic partisanship of the HRC are threats to these groups, who have defined their entire ideologies around their supporters fitting a very specific profile. No one can be "moral" who is gay; no one can be "gay" who is not liberal Democrat.

Thus, we share the experience of a choppy middle, where one is repeatedly shot at from both sides. We both know the difficulty of holding positions that are not popular and receive brickbats from the loudest groups. But most of all, we know the satisfaction of the personal relationships that can come when one looks past labels and sees that we really are very much all the same inside.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>As you cast your vote for grand conservative blogress diva, please join me in pondering why it is that so many gay men honor strong and confident women.</i></p>
<p>Simple. They, like gay conservatives, are people whose existence and success matches the public goals of their respective movements, but not the private, ulterior motives &#8212; and, as a result, are attacked and distrusted by both sides.</p>
<p>For instance, feminism publicly (and correctly) pushed for the right and reality of women to have a career without being disadvantaged because of their gender. However, the ulterior motive in feminism was that women MUST have a career; to ensure compliance, they came up with the notion that CHOOSING to be a stay-at-home mom or a housewife was to be &#8220;less of a person&#8221; and to &#8220;subjugate oneself to male domination&#8221;. At the same time, the wingnut right who extrapolate prominence in SPIRITUAL affairs to prominence in ALL affairs publicly acceded, but made it privately obvious that women who concerned themselves with home and family were &#8220;better&#8221;.</p>
<p>In short, both sides give women the &#8220;choice&#8221;, but make it obvious that there is only one &#8220;correct&#8221; choice,<b> because their ideology and power rests on that specific outcome</b>. Women like our blogress divas, who support a woman&#8217;s choice of career or home regardless of the outcome are a threat to both groups and are seen as subversive to their entire ideology. No one who supports women&#8217;s rights and competence can stay at home; no one who is worthy to be a mother can have a career.</p>
<p>The same happens with gay conservatives. The avowed goal of the &#8220;gay movement&#8221; is to celebrate the diversity and &#8220;normalcy&#8221; of the gay community, to show that we are people just like everyone else and deserve the same rights, just as the wingnut right claims to embrace anyone who supports God, motherhood, and apple pie. However, the ulterior motive of each group is to weld a powerful and unified voting bloc which can be sold to the highest bidder; gay conservatives, who refuse to go along with the antigay bigotry of a Donald Wildmon or the mindless Democratic partisanship of the HRC are threats to these groups, who have defined their entire ideologies around their supporters fitting a very specific profile. No one can be &#8220;moral&#8221; who is gay; no one can be &#8220;gay&#8221; who is not liberal Democrat.</p>
<p>Thus, we share the experience of a choppy middle, where one is repeatedly shot at from both sides. We both know the difficulty of holding positions that are not popular and receive brickbats from the loudest groups. But most of all, we know the satisfaction of the personal relationships that can come when one looks past labels and sees that we really are very much all the same inside.</p>
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		<title>By: Beth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Beth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Dec 2005 06:31:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, sure.  MacStansbury HAD to advertise to all my readers at my own blog that I wasn't even *considered* for the thing.  ::sniff::

&lt;em&gt;Where's the love&lt;/em&gt;, man?!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, sure.  MacStansbury HAD to advertise to all my readers at my own blog that I wasn&#8217;t even *considered* for the thing.  ::sniff::</p>
<p><em>Where&#8217;s the love</em>, man?!</p>
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		<title>By: MY Vast Right Wing Conspiracy</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2005/12/30/last-chance-to-vote-for-conservative-blogress-divawhy-gay-men-like-stong-women/#comment-10362</link>
		<dc:creator>MY Vast Right Wing Conspiracy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Dec 2005 03:27:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;As you know, I LOVE smart women&lt;/strong&gt;

And, apparently, gay men LIKE them.

Yeah, it&#8217;s another contest dealie. And for once, I DON&#8217;T have to divide my loyalty between 378 different people.

Only two. Dangit.

Alright, people, here be the deal, I got two dogs in this hunt. Sondr...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>As you know, I LOVE smart women</strong></p>
<p>And, apparently, gay men LIKE them.</p>
<p>Yeah, it&#8217;s another contest dealie. And for once, I DON&#8217;T have to divide my loyalty between 378 different people.</p>
<p>Only two. Dangit.</p>
<p>Alright, people, here be the deal, I got two dogs in this hunt. Sondr&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: MY Vast Right Wing Conspiracy &#187; Blog Archive &#187; As you know, I LOVE smart women</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2005/12/30/last-chance-to-vote-for-conservative-blogress-divawhy-gay-men-like-stong-women/#comment-10361</link>
		<dc:creator>MY Vast Right Wing Conspiracy &#187; Blog Archive &#187; As you know, I LOVE smart women</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Dec 2005 03:24:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] And, apparently, gay men LIKE them. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] And, apparently, gay men LIKE them. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: V the K</title>
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		<dc:creator>V the K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Dec 2005 01:37:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The 'strong woman' phrase reminds me of the way the women in my family responded to the Lewinsky scandal. They really scoffed at the notion that a strong woman would put up with being married to a serial philanderer.

The women in my family largely agreed with the guy who said, "If I tried to tell my wife that I had messed around with an intern, but it didn't count because it was just oral sex, the last thing I'd ever see would be my wife standing over me with a shotgun saying 'How the Hell do I reload this thing?'"</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The &#8217;strong woman&#8217; phrase reminds me of the way the women in my family responded to the Lewinsky scandal. They really scoffed at the notion that a strong woman would put up with being married to a serial philanderer.</p>
<p>The women in my family largely agreed with the guy who said, &#8220;If I tried to tell my wife that I had messed around with an intern, but it didn&#8217;t count because it was just oral sex, the last thing I&#8217;d ever see would be my wife standing over me with a shotgun saying &#8216;How the Hell do I reload this thing?&#8217;&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: SondraK</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2005/12/30/last-chance-to-vote-for-conservative-blogress-divawhy-gay-men-like-stong-women/#comment-10359</link>
		<dc:creator>SondraK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Dec 2005 00:59:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sweet....strong gay men like strong Conservative women because &lt;em&gt;strong&lt;/em&gt; Conservative women like gay men:)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sweet&#8230;.strong gay men like strong Conservative women because <em>strong</em> Conservative women like gay men:)</p>
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