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Turino….Tomato

February 13, 2006 by Bruce Carroll

First let me say that NBC having Brian Williams do “political color commentary” to Bob Costas’ play-by-play of the Olympic Opening Ceremonies was the worst mistake since the network gave the green light to “ALF.” If I heard Williams spouting MSM/Democrat talking points one more time when any nation walked by the cameras, I think my head would explode.

I really expected to hear….“And here comes the folks from Japan. You know, Bob, the United States turned oppressor to the poor Japanese by invading that nation following the slaughter of hundreds of thousands with the American atomic bomb.”

He did actually say: “It is interesting to note that Stephen Speilberg’s movie ‘Munich’ is playing around the world at this very moment.” Big deal. What is the relevance except to drag in the Isreali-Palestinian conflict? Munich wasn’t even a WINTER Olympics, Brian.

But here’s my real beef. Why is NBC using the Italian “Torino” instead of the English-version “Turin.” Did you all know that Torino is the city where the Shroud of Turin is housed in a Catholic cathedral? I had no idea with the Olympics being held in this city of “Torino” I had never heard of before. Is it possible that NBC doesn’t want you to know it is Turin either? Even other networks are befuddled. (h/t: Mediabistro)

‘Turin is the city’s English name,’ anchor Elizabeth Vargas told viewers Friday on ABC’s ‘World News Tonight. ‘Just as we would say ‘Rome,’ not ‘Roma,’ ‘Florence,’ not ‘Firenze.’ ‘” So ABC is sticking with Turin.

With Muslims outraged over a cartoon burning flags of Denmark all over the globe, God help NBC if they even hint to remind people of the Christian faith during the Olympic coverage. After all, they are also complicit in removing more and more references to “Christmas” each year as well.

GO TEAM USA, nonetheless!

-Bruce (GayPatriot)

Filed Under: Media Bias, Sports

Comments

  1. Kevin says

    February 13, 2006 at 6:38 am - February 13, 2006

    “After all, they are also complicit in removing more and more references to “Christmas” each year as well.”

    You mean like some big American businesses (such a Walmart) who are supposedly run by and for Christians, yet they are also removing Christmas from their advertising in order to sell to more people during the Christmas/holiday season? It’s simply a by-product of the fact that making money is the real religion people worship in this country.

    Even though I’m a big ol’ liberal, I’m one of those people who thinks it’s ludicrous to stop saying/acknowledging Christmas.

  2. Tom in Utrecht says

    February 13, 2006 at 7:26 am - February 13, 2006

    I really don’t think that NBC is calling Turin by its local name of Turino in an attempt to avoid mentioning the Shroud of Turin. FOX is apparently using Turino as well.

  3. V the K says

    February 13, 2006 at 8:19 am - February 13, 2006

    I think it’s an extension of the insipid standard that requires Anglo reporters and newsreaders to slip into Latin pronunciations of spanish-derived person and place names. On NPR, this has reached levels approaching parody where one expects labored ‘Latino’ pronumciations of ‘Taco Bell’ ‘Chi-Chis” and Cadillac El Dorados. Watching Telemundo and Univsion, I notice that there is no reciprocal effort on the effort of spanish-speaking newscasters to deliberately pronounce English-derived person and place names with labored Anglo pronunciations.

  4. Jeremy says

    February 13, 2006 at 9:53 am - February 13, 2006

    DRAMA QUEEN. I loved your following post on terrorism and cartoons, but this is just being a baby. Complaining that EVERY Station is using Torino instead of the bastardized Turin is just being a drama queen.

    I think it would have been interesting for you to post on the subject – especially since Americans call Italia Italy and Firenze Florence. However, claiming that it is a media conspiracy is just too much to stomach over breakfast. When you’re on, you’re on. But, when you’re off, you’re way off.

  5. Jeremy says

    February 13, 2006 at 9:57 am - February 13, 2006

    Wait: But here’s my real beef. Why is NBC using the Italian “Torino” instead of the English-version “Turin.”

    So, why didn’t you use “Turin” in your last post instead of Torino. — If you post more pics of that skater, I won’t complain what you call it. 😉

  6. North Dallas Thirty says

    February 13, 2006 at 10:08 am - February 13, 2006

    Believe it or not, there IS actually a reason.

    The official name of the games is “Torino 2006,” and the International Olympic Committee refers to the city by its Italian name. When the games were awarded in June 1999, then-IOC president Juan Antonio Samaranch announced, “The hosts of the 2006 Games will be Torino.”

    After NBC Sports chairman Dick Ebersol took a trip to Turin, he decided the network would go with Torino, too. NBC has the U.S. broadcast rights to the games.

    “Dick was hearing the way the locals were saying Torino, and how it’s so magnificently Italian how it rolls off the tongue,” said Mike McCarley, vice president of communications and marketing for NBC Sports.

    “He decided on that trip that we would call it Torino.”

    Personally, I , like most Americans, know of the city of Turin; a “Torino” is an insipid post-oil-crisis Ford sedan that we would sooner forget.

  7. rightiswrong says

    February 13, 2006 at 10:14 am - February 13, 2006

    pick a battle worth fighting, dude. turin/torino? who really cares? it’s not a conspiracy to keep ‘christians’ out of the limelight. Get a grip.

  8. Attmay says

    February 13, 2006 at 11:10 am - February 13, 2006

    the worst mistake since the network gave the green light to “ALF.”

    Okay, you’ve crossed the line here. NBC has given us Friends, Will and Grace, The West Wing, Fear Factor, and about 100 shows that are brutally inferior to ALF.

  9. Stephen says

    February 13, 2006 at 11:25 am - February 13, 2006

    And, so, what’s the problem? You don’t like the Italianate name of an Italian city? And this consumes you?

  10. HollywoodNeoCon says

    February 13, 2006 at 11:29 am - February 13, 2006

    Jesus H. Christ!!!!

    What the HELL did Bruce say to piss off all the moonbats this morning???

    I haven’t seen this kind of feeding frenzy since Ashcroft was picked to be AG.

    Hey “dudes,” chill out. Your shrillness is giving me a headache this early in the morning.

    Eric on the Left Coast

  11. V the K says

    February 13, 2006 at 11:53 am - February 13, 2006

    #8 — Not too mention 6,000 different crappy rip-offs of ‘Law & Order.’

  12. Jim says

    February 13, 2006 at 12:04 pm - February 13, 2006

    What’s sad is that the networks didn’t think the public could be trusted to make the connection between “Torino 2006” and “Turin”. That explains why they score so many other misses. But what do you expect form idiots who have taken 25 years to learn how to say “Beijing”?

  13. Patrick (Gryph) says

    February 13, 2006 at 12:39 pm - February 13, 2006

    You are just plain nuts Bruce. Turin may be the historical name of the city, but Torino is probably just its modern name. This is why we call LA “Los Angeles”, instead of “City of Angels”, its English translation. Get a grip.

    And as far as stores like Walmart saying “Happy Holidays”, haven’t you figured out that it is a lot cheaper for a store to make one sign saying “Happy Holidays” instead three? One each for “Merry Christmas”, “Happy Hanukkah”, and “Happy Kwanzaa”? Doesn’t that appeal to your GOP Capitalist leanings?

    But you go right ahead and make Christians the new culture of Victim-hood. Bah!

  14. HollywoodNeoCon says

    February 13, 2006 at 12:51 pm - February 13, 2006

    Shit!

    Someone PLEASE tell me why this particular post has the moonbats angrier than a nest of hornets????

    You’d think Bruce just posted a picture of himself peeing on Rosa Parks’ grave, wearing an SS uniform and singing “Deutschland Uber Alles.”

    Eric on a roll…
    aka Bear Sandwich

  15. Jack Allen says

    February 13, 2006 at 1:49 pm - February 13, 2006

    Bruce, you really had to stretch on this one to make an issue out of a non-issue.

    I found Brian Williams’ contributions boring and unnecessary, but I never felt he was trying to push Democratic Party talking points. If NBC feels it necessary to promote the news division during the highly rated opening and closing ceremonies, I’ll take Brian Williams instead of that syrupy sweet Katie Couric.

    NBC explained on the air up front that the Olympics are in Turin but that Italy uses Torino. Since it’s impossible for an NBC camera to photograph any event without picking up “Torino 2006” in the background, it only makes sense for announcers and anchors to be in sync with visuals. It’s total foolishness for anyone to suggest that, by doing so, NBC is being anti-Christian or, more specifically, anti-Catholic.

  16. Bruce (GayPatriot) says

    February 13, 2006 at 2:40 pm - February 13, 2006

    #13 – Gryph– Leave it to a gay guy to know all about victimhood, right?

    #14 – Eric — Cuz the truth sets the loonies free!

    #15 – Jack — You may be right. But I like to post on this that makes people wonder, angry, puzzled, and perhaps think outside their own box. I write to create reactions. This certainly got them, eh?

  17. Calarato says

    February 13, 2006 at 4:02 pm - February 13, 2006

    I see a distinct irony in Gryph telling anyone to “get a grip”. 🙂

  18. Patrick (Gryph) says

    February 13, 2006 at 4:46 pm - February 13, 2006

    #15 – Jack — You may be right. But I like to post on this that makes people wonder, angry, puzzled, and perhaps think outside their own box. I write to create reactions. This certainly got them, eh?

    In other words, Bruce didn’t have anything intelligent to say today and settled on manufactured outrage instead. Or put another way, he decided to be a drama queen. You go girl!

    And actually Calarato, when I used to work backstage I got quite a few grips. Ba-dum bump.

  19. Calarato says

    February 13, 2006 at 5:10 pm - February 13, 2006

    But you still can’t apologize when you’re a true asshole who doesn’t belong here.

    Hmm, interesting, that.

  20. Calarato says

    February 13, 2006 at 6:47 pm - February 13, 2006

    (Someone wondered about the reference; it’s to this, with responses at #29 and below)

  21. North Dallas Thirty says

    February 13, 2006 at 7:17 pm - February 13, 2006

    Calarato, that’s over the line.

    Even though I don’t often agree with Gryph, I respect him, and I value his opinion. I am VERY offended when he’s called names like you did.

  22. Patrick (Gryph) says

    February 13, 2006 at 7:19 pm - February 13, 2006

    The LA Times referred to Torino this morning as “Turin”. And as I recall, they ARE considered to be a member of the Mass Media. Perhaps they just didn’t the the memo from the national mass media conspiracy headquarters.

    http://www.latimes.com/travel/la-tr-preturin12feb12,0,1668302.story

  23. Calarato says

    February 13, 2006 at 7:38 pm - February 13, 2006

    NDT, you will need to deal with it.

    Review the thread in question. In it, we see:

    1) Gryph engaging in contemptible misrepresentation of his opponents’ position.

    2) Gryph additionally making a fool of himself in a misguided effort to slam me.

    3) After I tell him off for (1) and (2), Gryph mocking the concept of apology per se.

    Let me repeat: that is the behavior of an asshole.

    Why you would “respect” him? Honest question. Look at the thread, NDT, and tell me anything there worthy of respect.

  24. North Dallas Thirty says

    February 13, 2006 at 8:08 pm - February 13, 2006

    Calarato, I will agree that that was hardly Gryph’s finest hour. But I have seen him behave better on several instances and am more than willing to give him the benefit of the doubt based on that.

  25. Calarato says

    February 13, 2006 at 8:10 pm - February 13, 2006

    #23 cont – To express it another way: I really see no difference, in content or attitude, between Gryph and – say – raj or Stephen.

    Up to this point, and at least partly on your urging (NDT), we have sort of given Gryph an “exemption” from standards of judgment applied (correctly) to raj or Stephen as a matter of course. Why keep doing that?

    I am somewhat open to persuasion here, but that’s the point: you will have to persuade me now. (And if you don’t care to, that’s fine.) Or else Gryph will have to improve his behavior and earn respect.

  26. Calarato says

    February 13, 2006 at 8:11 pm - February 13, 2006

    #24 – Well, we shall see. It’s up to Gryph, isn’t it?

  27. ThatGayConservative says

    February 13, 2006 at 8:23 pm - February 13, 2006

    #14

    Because liberals are hateful, miserable people and everything they do is an attempt to make you just as miserable as they are.

  28. rightwingprof says

    February 14, 2006 at 2:27 pm - February 14, 2006

    I really see no difference, in content or attitude, between Gryph and – say – raj or Stephen

    Well, even I have to take issue with that. Stephen is an Artificial Stupidity bot. Most of the time, what he babbles has nothing to do with the topic at hand; it’s merely insane drivel.

    Stephen is in the same league with, oh, Rosie O’Donnell or Al-Gore.

  29. Calarato says

    February 14, 2006 at 3:58 pm - February 14, 2006

    OK, you could be right.

    I tune out Stephen frequently and easily enough now, that I may not really know his “typical” work any more.

  30. Pinko Punko says

    February 14, 2006 at 11:40 pm - February 14, 2006

    I can’t possible think of a dumber thing to say. Thanks for seconding Jonah Goldberg in duel between idiocy and competence. Right on!

  31. mantis says

    February 15, 2006 at 1:42 pm - February 15, 2006

    You do know the shroud is a fraud right? That it dates back to the 13-14th century?

  32. Michigan-Matt says

    February 15, 2006 at 3:21 pm - February 15, 2006

    #32, I can see my your tone you ain’t no “Praying” Mantis.

    The Shroud a fraud? Careful, that’s likely to incite violence from some. Hell, I’ll start a riot on your block, burn up your Yugo, stomp down the plastic tulips near your doorway and we’ll see who thinks it’s a fraud when we get done with you. Muslims, gheez.

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