It really says something, and not something good in my mind, when the world body has to remind the US how to behave.

Of course, this would be the same world body that had no trouble with Saddam’s systematic brutality as long as he continued to pay them.

I didn’t watch Kofi’s statement, but I’m sure he made it with hand outstretched….and palm upward. As I said before, this has nothing to do with what is actually taking place at Gitmo; it’s all about punishing those impertinent Americans for cutting Kofi et al. off from their Mercedes money.

Fortunately, they have puppet American liberals who didn’t give a whit about torture or murder or wrongful imprisonment until allegations of it could be used in attempts to smear Bush and a media who covers up the proven, systematic abuses that Saddam and others made — all in the name of “dealing peace”, of course.

I’ve challenged every liberal who whines about Gitmo to affirm the following: while supposedly in “compliance” with UN dictums, Saddam Hussein systematically imprisoned, tortured, and murdered millions of people based on their religion, racial origins, and political dissidence.

For some odd reason, they just can’t do it.

You completely missed the point of my post. I guess it was too liberal.

So, chastising the UN for ignoring real human rights abuses in Iran, North Korea, Cuba, and Zimbabwe is “petty?” Good Lord.

Most Gitmo detainees are innocent

Utter crap — and there is nothing that supports your idiotic statement in that “newspaper” article.

With all that said, I am also disappointed in the rancor that has proliferated between the gay right and the gay left. Hell, with this kind of “yelling at each other,” we don’t need enemies like the evangelical neoconservatives.

It would be beneficial to stop focusing on something so petty as whether or not Secretary Annan should chastise other nations and actually direct your energies toward gaining equality under our Constitution for American gays/lesbians or toward something most horrible, that being the clear, without a doubt torture and killings that occurs in Iran (and other countries) of any men, and in particular, gay men.

My two cents.

DR

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/national/1155AP_Guantanamo_Detainees.html

“More than half of the terror suspects being held at Guantanamo Bay have not been accused of committing hostile acts against the United States or its allies, two of the detainees’ lawyers said in a report released Tuesday.

Compiled from declassified Defense Department evaluations of the more than 500 detainees at the Cuba facility, the report says just 8 percent are listed as fighters for a terrorist group, while 30 percent are considered members of a terrorist group and the remaining 60 percent were just “associated with” terrorists.
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According to the report, 55 percent of the detainees are informally accused of committing a hostile act. But the descriptions of their actions ranged from a high-ranking Taliban member who tortured and killed Afghan natives to people who possessed rifles, used a guest house or wore olive drab clothing.

The report also found that about one-third of the detainees were linked to al-Qaida; 22 percent to the Taliban; 28 percent to both; and 7 percent to either one or the other, but not specified.”

Why is the other Dan, likely so eager to bash Bush, so reluctant to fault Kofi Annan?

Because more than anything else, they despise the United States and believe the US to be evil. This is why they howl about Abramoff, but see no problem in taking money from a convicted criminal with a violtently anti-American political agenda (Soros). This is why they have their tongues so far up the anus of the UN they can’t pull them out, despite the overwhelming evidence, growing every day, of the UN’s corruption and consistent support for thugs, dictators and terrorists.

The next time you see a liberal, say “national sovereignty” and watch his head explode.

It doesn’t matter what evidence is actually available when people want to believe the dramatic thing, rather than the boring thing.

The thing is that liberals aren’t interested in evidence or facts because that would destroy their view. Any evidence against their torture lie would just piss on their parade, if you will, and they’d have one less reason to hate Bush.

Essentially, the truth only proves that liberals are liars and they won’t stand for it. They have to keep repeating the lies on the hopes that eventually it will become true.

It’s a couple of weeks old news by now but Karpinski (of Abu Ghraib infamy) recently charged that female soldiers in Iraq had such a problem with being raped by male soldiers that they die of dehydration rather than drink enough fluid and risk needing to go to the loo at night. People picked that up with never a second thought about how someone who still claims ignorance of the abuses in her own command could possibly know this. And to show that the specific charges were untrue? Well, that was just trying to deny the larger problem, the dramatic glorious TRUTH of sex and violence.

I swear that some people are IN LOVE with the idea that we torture people… that our soldiers are emotionally tortured drug addicts… that female soldiers are victimized by their brothers-in-arms. It makes the world feel vital and alive or something… much more than our boring go-to-work and maybe see a movie on the weekend lives.

It’s like…. slumming.

Or something.

It’s a simple concept – the US, which once served as a beacon of democracy and freedom to the world, should be held to the highest standards.

You might have a point, if you howled far more loudly about the barbarians beheading captives, or burning embassies (ostensibly) because of cartoons, or demanded the immediate reform of the UN. But the “criticize only the US and give everybody else a pass” line has no moral authority or force — and is not to be taken seriously.

Why? Because you WANT it to be true. You want to believe them over your own government because you have some bastardized notion that whatever we do, we’re guilty of something. We’re not the evil ones here. As long as you believe that America is bad and Bush is the enemy, neither you nor the liberals will get anywhere.

Once?

There is a huge industry devoted to such endeavors, I don’t think you can say it’s biased in favor of one party.

The hell I can’t.

When I go to Books-A-Million and find far more (I would say more than twice if not three times ) books criticizing Bush than Clinton. I have yet to see manuals on how to hate Clinton or any books suggesting his assassination. I’ve not seen very many books criticizing Clinton with titles using variations of “Lie, cheat, steal”. Further, I’ve not seen many books, calenders, etc. mocking how Clinton, or anybody else for that matter, talks.

On a side note, Bill and Hillary had their books right up front as soon as you walked in the door. I never saw Dick Morris’ books up there. I have yet to see a book by a conservative writer at the front door.

Why is the other Dan, likely so eager to bash Bush, so reluctant to fault Kofi Annan?

In America, you get media celebrity and a six-figure book deal.

That is, so long as you’re criticizing the government while a Republican is in power.

Rush Limbaugh, Bill Reilly, Newt Gingrich, etc. all had major book deals during the Clinton administration. Not to mention all the books critical of Clinton that came out after he left office. There is a huge industry devoted to such endeavors, I don’t think you can say it’s biased in favor of one party.