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	<title>Comments on: Brokeback Mountain &#8211;A Limited Success &amp;  A Rorschach Test</title>
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		<title>By: picture of zoroastrianism</title>
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		<dc:creator>picture of zoroastrianism</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Mar 2006 02:21:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Declaration of Heaven on Earth!
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		<title>By: D'Alessandro</title>
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		<dc:creator>D'Alessandro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Mar 2006 05:24:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;If “normal” means that gays cheat on their spouses and ditch their children so they can run off and have sex, yeah, Brokeback qualifies.&quot;

Oh god, if that&#039;s how you&#039;ve rationalized the film, I feel sorry for you.  There were 7 or 8 layers of reality about what the 2 lead characters were stuggling with.   You can only comprehend the literal one.

Please, stick with &quot;Saw II&quot; and &quot;Curious George&quot;.  Neither will challenge your emotional intelligence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;If “normal” means that gays cheat on their spouses and ditch their children so they can run off and have sex, yeah, Brokeback qualifies.&#8221;</p>
<p>Oh god, if that&#8217;s how you&#8217;ve rationalized the film, I feel sorry for you.  There were 7 or 8 layers of reality about what the 2 lead characters were stuggling with.   You can only comprehend the literal one.</p>
<p>Please, stick with &#8220;Saw II&#8221; and &#8220;Curious George&#8221;.  Neither will challenge your emotional intelligence.</p>
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		<title>By: North Dallas Thirty</title>
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		<dc:creator>North Dallas Thirty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Mar 2006 18:48:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Could it be that there are some gays out there who are nervous that gay relationships are being shown in the light of being ascribed to “normal” people? i.e. No one lives in a big city, no one works in a high powered job, no one is in the entertainment industry, no one is a drag queen, no on one has AIDS, no one has a mincing sidekick, etc, etc. &lt;/i&gt;

If &quot;normal&quot; means that gays cheat on their spouses and ditch their children so they can run off and have sex, yeah, &lt;i&gt;Brokeback&lt;/i&gt; qualifies.

What I think is more likely is that there are gays out there who need Hollywood to validate them and thus brook no criticism of the homo &lt;i&gt;Passion of the Christ&lt;/i&gt;, even though what it shows gays as being unable to commit, making promises they won&#039;t keep, disrespecting marriage, and neglecting their children.

And now, it seems, if you don&#039;t swear unquestioning fealty to &lt;i&gt;Brokeback&lt;/i&gt;, you&#039;re no longer gay.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Could it be that there are some gays out there who are nervous that gay relationships are being shown in the light of being ascribed to “normal” people? i.e. No one lives in a big city, no one works in a high powered job, no one is in the entertainment industry, no one is a drag queen, no on one has AIDS, no one has a mincing sidekick, etc, etc. </i></p>
<p>If &#8220;normal&#8221; means that gays cheat on their spouses and ditch their children so they can run off and have sex, yeah, <i>Brokeback</i> qualifies.</p>
<p>What I think is more likely is that there are gays out there who need Hollywood to validate them and thus brook no criticism of the homo <i>Passion of the Christ</i>, even though what it shows gays as being unable to commit, making promises they won&#8217;t keep, disrespecting marriage, and neglecting their children.</p>
<p>And now, it seems, if you don&#8217;t swear unquestioning fealty to <i>Brokeback</i>, you&#8217;re no longer gay.</p>
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		<title>By: Etain Peregrine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Etain Peregrine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Mar 2006 19:24:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Btw, on the off chance anyone is interested, here is an article about gay themes in some popular anime titles and a description of Yaoi:

Perhaps the oddest use of gay characters in anime is yaoi: romances between young gay men that are created by women for female audiences, especially adolescent girls. &quot;A lot of the lesbian imagery that we see in American pop culture is meant to tantalize male viewers,&quot; says Central Park Media president John O&#039;Donnell. &quot;The opposite is true in Japan: A lot of the male homoeroticism in anime is meant for a female audience and is written by females for females.&quot;

In some ways BBM could be viewed as the first live action American produced Yaoi movie. And probably not the last.

Anyway linky goodness for you:

http://www.highbeam.com/library/docfree.asp?DOCID=1G1:110809191&amp;ctrlInfo=Round18%3AMode18c%3ADocG%3AResult&amp;ao=</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Btw, on the off chance anyone is interested, here is an article about gay themes in some popular anime titles and a description of Yaoi:</p>
<p>Perhaps the oddest use of gay characters in anime is yaoi: romances between young gay men that are created by women for female audiences, especially adolescent girls. &#8220;A lot of the lesbian imagery that we see in American pop culture is meant to tantalize male viewers,&#8221; says Central Park Media president John O&#8217;Donnell. &#8220;The opposite is true in Japan: A lot of the male homoeroticism in anime is meant for a female audience and is written by females for females.&#8221;</p>
<p>In some ways BBM could be viewed as the first live action American produced Yaoi movie. And probably not the last.</p>
<p>Anyway linky goodness for you:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.highbeam.com/library/docfree.asp?DOCID=1G1:110809191&#038;ctrlInfo=Round18%3AMode18c%3ADocG%3AResult&#038;ao" rel="nofollow">http://www.highbeam.com/library/docfree.asp?DOCID=1G1:110809191&#038;ctrlInfo=Round18%3AMode18c%3ADocG%3AResult&#038;ao</a>=</p>
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		<title>By: rightwingprof</title>
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		<dc:creator>rightwingprof</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Mar 2006 19:20:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Thank God it’s Oscar Sunday.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Is there anybody who actually has ever watched the damn Oscars, BBM or not? And why would you, when you could do something interesting, like clip the dog&#039;s toenails?

I mean, sheesh, who cares?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Thank God it’s Oscar Sunday.</p></blockquote>
<p>Is there anybody who actually has ever watched the damn Oscars, BBM or not? And why would you, when you could do something interesting, like clip the dog&#8217;s toenails?</p>
<p>I mean, sheesh, who cares?</p>
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		<title>By: HollywoodNeoCon</title>
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		<dc:creator>HollywoodNeoCon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Mar 2006 18:14:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kevin said...

&lt;i&gt;&quot;Remember that Monday morning glad handing and handjobs are *never* over in Hollywood….&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

True, but that is far more tolerable than having every blogger in the fucking universe telling me how my industry is single-handedly destroying Western Civilization.

And that includes my ball-busting mother, who seems to think that &lt;i&gt;simply everyone&lt;/i&gt; is clamoring for me to make a sequel to &quot;The Wizard of Oz!&quot;

Fucking amateurs....:)

Eric in Hollywood
&lt;i&gt;Now if you&#039;ll excuse me, I have 12 hours of Oscar coverage to enjoy...&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kevin said&#8230;</p>
<p><i>&#8220;Remember that Monday morning glad handing and handjobs are *never* over in Hollywood….&#8221;</i></p>
<p>True, but that is far more tolerable than having every blogger in the fucking universe telling me how my industry is single-handedly destroying Western Civilization.</p>
<p>And that includes my ball-busting mother, who seems to think that <i>simply everyone</i> is clamoring for me to make a sequel to &#8220;The Wizard of Oz!&#8221;</p>
<p>Fucking amateurs&#8230;.:)</p>
<p>Eric in Hollywood<br />
<i>Now if you&#8217;ll excuse me, I have 12 hours of Oscar coverage to enjoy&#8230;</i></p>
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		<title>By: hank</title>
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		<dc:creator>hank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Mar 2006 18:00:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#48
I think there was a TV movie.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#48<br />
I think there was a TV movie.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Mar 2006 17:59:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>49:  Remember that Monday morning glad handing and handjobs are *never* over in Hollywood....  :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>49:  Remember that Monday morning glad handing and handjobs are *never* over in Hollywood&#8230;.  <img src='http://www.gaypatriot.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Mar 2006 17:58:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>32: Geez, is your other name &quot;Debbie Downer&quot;?  You go so far as to say it won&#039;t do well on DVD with people who wouldn&#039;t see it in theatres because their neighbors are peeking in their windows?  Headlines about it being the big loser?  Not close to a worthy film until Ang Lee was attached?

I&#039;m really curious to know why there are gay people (assuming you&#039;re gay) who keep beating this drum of negativity about this film, even though it is clearly a hit (both in regard to financial and artistic standards).  Could it be that there are some gays out there who are nervous that gay relationships are being shown in the light of being ascribed to &quot;normal&quot; people?  i.e.  No one lives in a big city, no one works in a high powered job, no one is in the entertainment industry, no one is a drag queen, no on one has AIDS, no one has a mincing sidekick, etc, etc.  Previous well-received movies (like The Birdcage) were &quot;safe&quot; movies because the gays in them were placed in a position of being second-class and the main-stream audiences could live with it.  Now, we have material that&#039;s making people a little nervous because there is no niche to put them in, but it&#039;s still holding it&#039;s ground.

Not only Brokeback Mountain, but this year there are other solid performances from people acting in films outside the norm (Philip Seymour Hoffman in Capote and Felicity Huffman in Transamerica).  Hoffman&#039;s star has been on the rise slowly for years and the attention given Huffman has been due in great deal to her parallel success in &quot;Desperate Housewives&quot;.  All of them have been steaming full throttle with great successes in the awards season this year.  True, the boxoffice for them is not near anything like Harry Potter or Narnia, but so far nothing has been around to really de-rail the Brokeback Express.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>32: Geez, is your other name &#8220;Debbie Downer&#8221;?  You go so far as to say it won&#8217;t do well on DVD with people who wouldn&#8217;t see it in theatres because their neighbors are peeking in their windows?  Headlines about it being the big loser?  Not close to a worthy film until Ang Lee was attached?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m really curious to know why there are gay people (assuming you&#8217;re gay) who keep beating this drum of negativity about this film, even though it is clearly a hit (both in regard to financial and artistic standards).  Could it be that there are some gays out there who are nervous that gay relationships are being shown in the light of being ascribed to &#8220;normal&#8221; people?  i.e.  No one lives in a big city, no one works in a high powered job, no one is in the entertainment industry, no one is a drag queen, no on one has AIDS, no one has a mincing sidekick, etc, etc.  Previous well-received movies (like The Birdcage) were &#8220;safe&#8221; movies because the gays in them were placed in a position of being second-class and the main-stream audiences could live with it.  Now, we have material that&#8217;s making people a little nervous because there is no niche to put them in, but it&#8217;s still holding it&#8217;s ground.</p>
<p>Not only Brokeback Mountain, but this year there are other solid performances from people acting in films outside the norm (Philip Seymour Hoffman in Capote and Felicity Huffman in Transamerica).  Hoffman&#8217;s star has been on the rise slowly for years and the attention given Huffman has been due in great deal to her parallel success in &#8220;Desperate Housewives&#8221;.  All of them have been steaming full throttle with great successes in the awards season this year.  True, the boxoffice for them is not near anything like Harry Potter or Narnia, but so far nothing has been around to really de-rail the Brokeback Express.</p>
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		<title>By: HollywoodNeoCon</title>
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		<dc:creator>HollywoodNeoCon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Mar 2006 17:09:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I will say this one more time...

Thank God it&#039;s Oscar Sunday.

When all is said and done, and the Monday morning glad-handing and mutual handjobs are over, everyone here will kindly do me a favor and &lt;b&gt;LEAVE MY INDUSTRY ALONE&lt;/b&gt;.

Well, at least until next year.

Eric in Hollywood
&lt;i&gt;If you don&#039;t wanna see my movie, then don&#039;t buy a fucking ticket. Belive me, I&#039;ll get the message...&lt;/i&gt; :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I will say this one more time&#8230;</p>
<p>Thank God it&#8217;s Oscar Sunday.</p>
<p>When all is said and done, and the Monday morning glad-handing and mutual handjobs are over, everyone here will kindly do me a favor and <b>LEAVE MY INDUSTRY ALONE</b>.</p>
<p>Well, at least until next year.</p>
<p>Eric in Hollywood<br />
<i>If you don&#8217;t wanna see my movie, then don&#8217;t buy a fucking ticket. Belive me, I&#8217;ll get the message&#8230;</i> <img src='http://www.gaypatriot.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: rightwingprof</title>
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		<dc:creator>rightwingprof</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Mar 2006 17:07:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Yes, Harvy Milk was an idiot. But more idiotic was the “twinkie defense”. What a time.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I don&#039;t see anybody trying to make a movie idolizing the morons on the jury, do you?

And yes, Harvey Milk was an idiot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Yes, Harvy Milk was an idiot. But more idiotic was the “twinkie defense”. What a time.</p></blockquote>
<p>I don&#8217;t see anybody trying to make a movie idolizing the morons on the jury, do you?</p>
<p>And yes, Harvey Milk was an idiot.</p>
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		<title>By: hank</title>
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		<dc:creator>hank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Mar 2006 14:19:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#44
Sorry, I miss-spoke. My perception of him at the time was strictly &quot;east coast&quot;. We heard  about his politics, and that he was gay. Not much else. Also,  I didn&#039;t know the man. Epithets fly so freely here, I guess I caught the bug. I apologize.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#44<br />
Sorry, I miss-spoke. My perception of him at the time was strictly &#8220;east coast&#8221;. We heard  about his politics, and that he was gay. Not much else. Also,  I didn&#8217;t know the man. Epithets fly so freely here, I guess I caught the bug. I apologize.</p>
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		<title>By: Carl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Mar 2006 06:00:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>-

And I notice you didn’t remark on the Harvey Milk biopic. Seriously, does *anyone* want to see that? Talk about a downer!-

I think people would rather see this film than some of Hollywood&#039;s recent biopics, like that brilliant idea to make a movie about the host of &quot;The Gong Show&quot;. I think people would rather see this movie than yet another film version of a TV show. Harvey had an interesting life and his death is fodder for melodrama.

-It might do decent business on Netflix, but straight people won’t want to own it, in their homes where their neighbors can see.-

You seem to think that straight people are going to go around looking for any sign of BBM in their neighbors&#039; homes, or that this will be a cause of great controversy if one is found. Many straight women would have no problem owning this DVD.

It&#039;s certainly easy to see this film as a failure. I think many gay men have gone out of their way to view this film as a failure, because this validates their &quot;America will never accept us, we&#039;re so terrible,&quot; mantra.

This film has been talked up as a failure from the beginning, and has surpassed expectations every step of the way. But if people want to look for the Oscars as the voice of America (even as the simultaneously criticize the Oscars for being too liberal and out of touch), then fine. You&#039;ll have plenty of company when the media (which is always more than happy to scapegoat or stereotypes gays) goes on about what a failure BBM is. They&#039;re just reinforcing their own propaganda, not what actually exists.</description>
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<p>And I notice you didn’t remark on the Harvey Milk biopic. Seriously, does *anyone* want to see that? Talk about a downer!-</p>
<p>I think people would rather see this film than some of Hollywood&#8217;s recent biopics, like that brilliant idea to make a movie about the host of &#8220;The Gong Show&#8221;. I think people would rather see this movie than yet another film version of a TV show. Harvey had an interesting life and his death is fodder for melodrama.</p>
<p>-It might do decent business on Netflix, but straight people won’t want to own it, in their homes where their neighbors can see.-</p>
<p>You seem to think that straight people are going to go around looking for any sign of BBM in their neighbors&#8217; homes, or that this will be a cause of great controversy if one is found. Many straight women would have no problem owning this DVD.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s certainly easy to see this film as a failure. I think many gay men have gone out of their way to view this film as a failure, because this validates their &#8220;America will never accept us, we&#8217;re so terrible,&#8221; mantra.</p>
<p>This film has been talked up as a failure from the beginning, and has surpassed expectations every step of the way. But if people want to look for the Oscars as the voice of America (even as the simultaneously criticize the Oscars for being too liberal and out of touch), then fine. You&#8217;ll have plenty of company when the media (which is always more than happy to scapegoat or stereotypes gays) goes on about what a failure BBM is. They&#8217;re just reinforcing their own propaganda, not what actually exists.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Mar 2006 05:55:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>40 &amp; 43:  Harvey Milk did more for people (not just gay people) than most.  Liberal or conservative be damned, your name calling of Mr. Milk is completely unnecessary and nothing short of mean-spirited and flat out wrong.

44:  Thank you for your eloquent and honest response.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>40 &amp; 43:  Harvey Milk did more for people (not just gay people) than most.  Liberal or conservative be damned, your name calling of Mr. Milk is completely unnecessary and nothing short of mean-spirited and flat out wrong.</p>
<p>44:  Thank you for your eloquent and honest response.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Mar 2006 05:12:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, Hank, Harvey was not only an acquaintance, but wholly instrumental in defeating the Briggs Initiative. Yes, he was a diehard socialist. So we had our disagreements. But he almost single-handedly made Briggs the issue, and what a fool Briggs was. Without Harvey, gays could not teach in our schools. Harvey was the first &quot;out&quot; gay politician. We had our political differences. But I never doubted his &quot;courage.&quot; The night he and Moscone were assasinated, a pall fell over the city. It was so palpable, people were crying in the street. In front of the old Midnight Sun, even I could no longer contain my grief. Sometimes we need to get &quot;beyond&quot; differences and see that which binds us. That night, that lonely and horrible night, nobody could assauge the tears. And for all their faults and all their foibles, they defeated the first reactionary hostility. Yes, we had our differences, but that night, ALL were ONE.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, Hank, Harvey was not only an acquaintance, but wholly instrumental in defeating the Briggs Initiative. Yes, he was a diehard socialist. So we had our disagreements. But he almost single-handedly made Briggs the issue, and what a fool Briggs was. Without Harvey, gays could not teach in our schools. Harvey was the first &#8220;out&#8221; gay politician. We had our political differences. But I never doubted his &#8220;courage.&#8221; The night he and Moscone were assasinated, a pall fell over the city. It was so palpable, people were crying in the street. In front of the old Midnight Sun, even I could no longer contain my grief. Sometimes we need to get &#8220;beyond&#8221; differences and see that which binds us. That night, that lonely and horrible night, nobody could assauge the tears. And for all their faults and all their foibles, they defeated the first reactionary hostility. Yes, we had our differences, but that night, ALL were ONE.</p>
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		<title>By: hank</title>
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		<dc:creator>hank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Mar 2006 02:56:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#40
Yes, Harvy Milk was an idiot. But more idiotic was the &quot;twinkie defense&quot;. What a time.

It&#039;s great that Phillip S. Hoffman captured the voice and mannerisms of Capote (so did Robert Morse in Tru...he won a Tony) and that  Felicity Huffman (with the help of great makeup artists) convincingly plays a man becoming a woman. But these seem like trick pony performances. Sure, very flashy, but basically not terribly difficult.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#40<br />
Yes, Harvy Milk was an idiot. But more idiotic was the &#8220;twinkie defense&#8221;. What a time.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s great that Phillip S. Hoffman captured the voice and mannerisms of Capote (so did Robert Morse in Tru&#8230;he won a Tony) and that  Felicity Huffman (with the help of great makeup artists) convincingly plays a man becoming a woman. But these seem like trick pony performances. Sure, very flashy, but basically not terribly difficult.</p>
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		<title>By: blog responder, resurrected</title>
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		<dc:creator>blog responder, resurrected</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Mar 2006 01:08:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>rightwingprof writes: &quot;That’s exactly what BBM is: a chick flick.&quot;

Yes, apparently a Satanic one which will force unsuspecting people (who don&#039;t think there&#039;s anything wrong with beating gay people to death) to cheat on their husbands and wives, which never happened before gay culture told them they &lt;i&gt;had&lt;/i&gt; to ...at least, according to rightwingprof&#039;s posts in the Aslan vs. Brokeback thread... pathetic. Truly pathetic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>rightwingprof writes: &#8220;That’s exactly what BBM is: a chick flick.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yes, apparently a Satanic one which will force unsuspecting people (who don&#8217;t think there&#8217;s anything wrong with beating gay people to death) to cheat on their husbands and wives, which never happened before gay culture told them they <i>had</i> to &#8230;at least, according to rightwingprof&#8217;s posts in the Aslan vs. Brokeback thread&#8230; pathetic. Truly pathetic.</p>
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		<title>By: blog responder, resurrected</title>
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		<dc:creator>blog responder, resurrected</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Mar 2006 01:04:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#32: &#039;28: For that matter, I notice no one mentions the “intelligentsia” getting all “litmus test” about “Capote” or “Transamerica”, probably because no one is about to go out and see either one of those movies.&#039;

I&#039;m not exactly sure what this means. At any rate, I also saw &quot;Transamerica&quot; while I was in NYC,  which I enjoyed, but didn&#039;t find as artful (cinematographically) as Brokeback. But I enjoyed it, especially when the main character (I&#039;m awful at names) finally makes it home to his/her family... Still haven&#039;t seen &quot;Capote,&quot; but mainly because I (perhaps naively) believed that it would come to local theaters in Kansas, given that it&#039;s about Kansas. But no.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#32: &#8217;28: For that matter, I notice no one mentions the “intelligentsia” getting all “litmus test” about “Capote” or “Transamerica”, probably because no one is about to go out and see either one of those movies.&#8217;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not exactly sure what this means. At any rate, I also saw &#8220;Transamerica&#8221; while I was in NYC,  which I enjoyed, but didn&#8217;t find as artful (cinematographically) as Brokeback. But I enjoyed it, especially when the main character (I&#8217;m awful at names) finally makes it home to his/her family&#8230; Still haven&#8217;t seen &#8220;Capote,&#8221; but mainly because I (perhaps naively) believed that it would come to local theaters in Kansas, given that it&#8217;s about Kansas. But no.</p>
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		<title>By: rightwingprof</title>
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		<dc:creator>rightwingprof</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Mar 2006 22:22:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;And I notice you didn’t remark on the Harvey Milk biopic&lt;/blockquote&gt;

His only claim to fame was that he&#039;s a gay martyr. He was an idiot, whose idea of contribution was passing a dog-poop pickup law (though of course you have to be an idiot to get elected in SF). But pictures celebrating idiocy are popular these days: see Grizzly Man for an excellent example.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>And I notice you didn’t remark on the Harvey Milk biopic</p></blockquote>
<p>His only claim to fame was that he&#8217;s a gay martyr. He was an idiot, whose idea of contribution was passing a dog-poop pickup law (though of course you have to be an idiot to get elected in SF). But pictures celebrating idiocy are popular these days: see Grizzly Man for an excellent example.</p>
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		<title>By: just me</title>
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		<dc:creator>just me</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Mar 2006 21:47:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My husband insists that BBM is a chick flick with guys.  And based on the formula, I would say the assessment is probably right.  My husband is more along the lines of Etain in his movie preferences, although you can throw in the Police Academy/Airplane/Naked gun type comedies as well.

I like happy ending chick flicks okay, but the tragic ending chick flicks or the sisterhood type movies aren&#039;t my thing (I have seen Steel Magnolias all of two times-once at the theater and once with my mom, because she wanted me to watch it with her-I would almost rather stick a needle in my eye than watch it a third time, although I would take SM over Titanic any day-at least SM has some good comedy lines in it).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My husband insists that BBM is a chick flick with guys.  And based on the formula, I would say the assessment is probably right.  My husband is more along the lines of Etain in his movie preferences, although you can throw in the Police Academy/Airplane/Naked gun type comedies as well.</p>
<p>I like happy ending chick flicks okay, but the tragic ending chick flicks or the sisterhood type movies aren&#8217;t my thing (I have seen Steel Magnolias all of two times-once at the theater and once with my mom, because she wanted me to watch it with her-I would almost rather stick a needle in my eye than watch it a third time, although I would take SM over Titanic any day-at least SM has some good comedy lines in it).</p>
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