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Gay Groups Silent as Democratic Governor Stands By Appointee from Anti-Gay Group

Posted by GayPatriotWest at 9:59 pm - March 3, 2006.
Filed under: Gay Politics

Earlier today, I learned via Instapundit that a Nation of Islam official served on the Illinois hate crimes commission. I could not imagine an elected official appointing an active member of that anti-gay, racist and anti-Semitic organization to such a commission. Not only did Governor Rod Blagojevich’s administration appoint this woman, but a few days ago, the Governor himself “expressed support for Claudette Marie Muhammad, director of community outreach for the Nation of Islam, a black Muslim group led by the Rev. Louis Farrakhan.” Blagojevich saw no reason to dismiss Ms. Muhammed although she had “recently invited commission members to attend a Farrakhan speech in which he accused ‘Hollywood Jews’ of ‘promoting lesbianism, homosexuality’ and other ‘filth.’

The Malcontent‘s Robbie reports that this is the “top story in Chicago today.” So, given the prominence of this story and the fact that Ms. Muhammed is a member of an anti-gay organization, I was certain that such national gay groups as the Human Rights Campaign (HRC), the National Gay and Lesbian Task Force (NGLTF) and Log Cabin would denounce the Illinois Governor and demand that he remove Ms. Muhammed from a commission whose work is central to their mission.

But, after I picked up my car from the dealership, I returned here and checked their websites, eager to read their strongly-worded statements, but could find no such statements on their websites — or via google searches. It didn’t make sense. I mean, a representative of an anti-gay group invites hate crimes commission members to a speech where a man whom a leftist blogger calls a “hate monger” preaches hate, lumping gay men and lesbian in with filth. (She didn’t invite them to investigate this man’s hate-filled rhetoric, but because she was a member of the speaker’s organization.) And the Governor expresses support for the woman who issued the invitation!

The gay groups should be rushing to condemn him — and her. It would seem they would want it on the evening news while they clamored for a commission to investigate how the Governor could have appointed such an official of a group which promotes hate to a commission which investigates it.

But, as I wondered at their silence, something occurred to me. Governor Blagojevich is a Democrat! And according to the gospel of HRC, NGLTF (and even occasionally Log Cabin), Democrats, by dint of their party affiliation, can’t possibly be anti-gay.

I mean, even though the Republican of Governor of California signed five pro-gay bills, HRC attacked him because he vetoed one which would mandate gay marriage in the Golden State. Meanwhile, that group failed to fault the Democratic Governor of the Old Dominion who, while joining his California Republican colleague in opposing gay marriage, departs from this good Republican (and his noble Connecticut Republican colleague) in also opposing state recognition of same-sex civil unions.

That a Governor would appoint a member of this anti-gay (and anti-Semitic) group to a state commission, particularly one on hate crimes, is troubling (to say the least). That the Governor would stand by her after she invites her colleague to a speech by a hate monger is appalling. That gay groups would remain silent while all this is going on is inexcusable. Given the political affiliation of the Governor, however, this is something we have come to expect from national gay organizations, even the one that calls itself Republican.

-Dan (AKA GayPatriotWest): GayPatriotWest@aol.com

UPDATE: In his post on some of the twists and turns in the case, John Ruberry provides links to his previous posts on the topic. Check it out!

UP-UPDATE: While Log Cabin’s national office remains silent on this topic, Erik Linell, president of the Chicago chapter of Log Cabin writes to inform me that his chapter has asked Illinois Governor Rod Blagojevich to Remove Farrakhan Adviser from Hate Crime Panel. Linell say that the Governor is “wrong” and “needs to be held accountable” for failing to dismiss Ms. Muhammed:

He expects the LGBT vote and then makes such an insulting appointment. You can bet no Republican governor would ever get a free pass if they made an appointment of this nature. It makes a mockery of the fight against hatred and intolerance in Illinois.

Just as it was when I was involved in Log Cabin, it’s the local chapters doing all the work and standing up to Democrats. Kudos to Linell and his chapter!

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61 Comments

  1. Dan, I agree with you, and even as a “leftist”, it causes me no pain to say that the gay groups (HRC, NGLTF, LCR, etc.) are wrong not to point out bigotry.

    Farrakhan and his supporters have gotten a free ride for way too long. Any Dem or Republican who stands beside that man should be called out. Just watching all the Dem political luminaries hobnobbing with that hatemonger at his Millions More March last year was nauseating.

    Also, Tim Kaine and the Dem establishment got no support on my blog either; there was endless criticism of his selection for the SOTU and his position on the VA marriage amendment. Same goes for sHillary. Not one thin dime.

    It’s also why folks over at my pad have no patience with gay orgs that don’t hold anti-gay Democrats accountable.

    Comment by Pam's House Blend — March 3, 2006 @ 11:02 pm - March 3, 2006

  2. I have a detailed post on my (part of Pajamas blog). A gay group of lawmakers did have a press conference today, although I couldn’t find much in way of details.

    Then there is this, from the springfield Journal-Register:

    http://www.sj-r.com/Sections/News/Stories/80098.asp

    Rep. Larry McKeon, D-Chicago, a member of the commission, said the governor has “found himself in a very difficult situation.”

    Blagojevich, while acknowledging Wednesday he didn’t know he had appointed Muhammad and wished his staff had discussed it with him, said she can remain on the commission so long as she supports its goals.

    “On a personal level, I’m disappointed and discouraged,” said McKeon, an openly gay lawmaker who wrote the proposal to form such a panel eight years ago.

    Comment by John Ruberry — March 4, 2006 @ 12:25 am - March 4, 2006

  3. DPW: Total Solidarity here. This appointment is a total disgrace and deserves reproach and reversal. Pluralism is not multiculturalism. We do rank some values over others, while opening the door to as many alternatives as possible. Intolerance is not a value, it’s a vice; it always has been. It is not an alternative, because it itself offers no options. It has no place in a liberal democracy. We cannot tolerate totalitarianism in any of its various disguises.

    You are certainly bolstering the case that HRC, Lambda, LGSTF, etc., are blindly partisan. You’re absolutely right about Schwarzenegger, and here a Democrat does something worse. The silence is deafening. I’m waiting to hear/see from Log Cabin, Alice B. Toklas, Stonewall, and other gay political organizations. NO ONE can be accepting of intolerance, regardless of political affiliation.

    Whatever our socio-politico-economic goals, and I’m sure they are diverse, no one can tolerate intolerance. Not only is it an oxymoron and dangerous; it’s a road without return.

    Comment by Stephen — March 4, 2006 @ 2:11 am - March 4, 2006

  4. Dan, I agree with what you’ve written.

    While I don’t want to make excuses for the LGBT organizations, in this day of obsessions with PC — when someone can be hammered for just thinking about criticizing a black person — they may be moving cautiously, albeit too cautiously, for fear of MSM allegations of racism.

    BTW, I hope you noticed Log Cabin’s warm praise for Senator Tom Coburn’s efforts to reauthorize the Ryan White law.

    Comment by Jack Allen — March 4, 2006 @ 3:11 am - March 4, 2006

  5. Frankly, I don’t know why the hell anybody is surprised that a lib is cozy with a hate monger and can’t figure out what the problem is. It’s part of a larger pattern that you’re not supposed to be smart enough to notice.

    Comment by ThatGayConservative — March 4, 2006 @ 5:11 am - March 4, 2006

  6. For me the gay marriage issue is a human rights issue. If gays and lesbians pay their taxes and abide by the law, why can’t they have the same rights as everyone else when it comes to their pursuit of happiness?

    The arguments being used by folks on the right are the same arguments that bigots used against interracial marriage. I have relatives and friends who are gay and lesbian, I’ve told them the only way they can win this fight is to approach it from a human rights point of view.

    Comment by rainlillie — March 4, 2006 @ 7:10 am - March 4, 2006

  7. 5: You mean, like say, oh, I dunno…..the same way members of the Reagan administration (some of whom are now part of the Bush administration) were cozy with Saddam Huessin? Gotta love that picture of Rumsfeld (with big smile on his face) shaking hands with Saddam in the 80s.

    By the way, I wrote to 2 of the organizations the original post mentioned asking them why there’s been no response. I eagerly await their answers.

    Further, the original post makes quite a to-do about the juxtaposition of Schwarzenegger’s signing of some pro-gay legislation, yet you miss out on the anti-discrimination legislation passed in Illinois on January 11, 2005 and signe by him. Just more proof that pretty much no politician, conservative or liberal, seems to ever support any issue 100% of the time.

    Comment by Kevin — March 4, 2006 @ 7:34 am - March 4, 2006

  8. Kind of interesting that when a post that relates to an organization (the Nation of Islam) and an individual that openly would be happy to see him exterminated… the first place Kevin goes is back to bashing Republicans.

    Bush-haters come from a truly psychotic place indeed,.

    Comment by Kent Brockman — March 4, 2006 @ 9:30 am - March 4, 2006

  9. The interesting thing about this event:

    Rick Garcia,( a gay man who is a member of the hate crimes commission,) the gay rights leader, praised Muhammad and said he wants her to stay on the commission.

    Could it be that Garcia is actually judging the woman based on her individual merit rather than the group she is associated with? What a novel concept.

    Comment by Patrick (Gryph) — March 4, 2006 @ 11:01 am - March 4, 2006

  10. Gryph said…

    “Could it be that Garcia is actually judging the woman based on her individual merit rather than the group she is associated with? What a novel concept.”

    That’s the ballsiest example of rationalization I’ve ever read, Patrick. Utter bullshit, but ballsy nonetheless.

    Where was your wisdom on this issue when Alito was getting dogpiled over the Princeton Alumni controversy? Hmmmm?

    I’d have a lot more respect for you if you at least managed to stay, you know, consistent.

    Eric in Hollywood

    Comment by HollywoodNeoCon — March 4, 2006 @ 11:17 am - March 4, 2006

  11. LOL

    Comment by Calarato — March 4, 2006 @ 11:19 am - March 4, 2006

  12. I’d have a lot more respect for you if you at least managed to stay, you know, consistent.

    Oh, but Gryph is consistent. Conservative Republicans — always evil. Liberal Democrats — always forgiveable.

    Comment by V the K — March 4, 2006 @ 11:44 am - March 4, 2006

  13. The only difference between Farrakhan’s group and the Islamofascists in the Middle East is geography. If Calypso Louie is ballsy enough to call the homosexual lifestyle “filth” in public, one wonders what he’s saying to his brainwashed minions in private. One also wonders why the demoncRATS haven’t distanced themselves from this sick rant.

    Trust me, folks, these libs don’t care about you as people. They just see you as lockbox voters for people with a (D) after their name at the ballot box.

    And they will be the ones to sell you down the river as well. I agree with post #3 – where are the gay demoncRAT groups condemning this hate speech? Oh, wait, that’s right – V the K just said why.

    Regards,
    Peter Hughes

    Comment by Peter Hughes — March 4, 2006 @ 12:28 pm - March 4, 2006

  14. Since when does high level affiliation with anti-gay, racist, and anti-Semitic organizations not factor into a persons “merits” for this kind of job qualifications? This is as ridiculous as having Syria heading the UN Human Rights Commission – or was that Libya or Iraq. I forget now…

    Comment by Dave — March 4, 2006 @ 12:32 pm - March 4, 2006

  15. The Urban Strategy of the Dems these last several decades is going to force the party of division to make a decision: sell their souls to maintain 90% of all black votes through manipulation every election, or be a national party again. A race-baiting Dem party that is sent into obscurity by the voters or a renewed Dem party that actually serves America – we win either way.

    The numbers of Condoleezas and Colin Powells among African Americans is only going to grow bigger so perhaps they’ll fail to take either option and go the way of the Communist Party USA.

    Its so good to see the PC panderers get caught in their own self-righteous traps.

    Comment by VinceTN — March 4, 2006 @ 12:36 pm - March 4, 2006

  16. Peter – #3 is problematic, not because of what it says, but. alas, only because of who said it.

    DSH / Stephen is an insane Leftist ranter, nearly all the time. I say “insane” because most of his posts must be read to be believed – and because, occasionally, perhaps for fun, he will then toss out a complete opposite post that sounds like it was written by a different person.

    I’m serious. #3 is such a post (i.e., his periodic effort to sound like a totally different person). It’s almost like schizophrenia. When it’s his whim to suddenly sound like he could be sane if he wanted to, he does. Bruce once got taken in (early on, before he knew the full story) and re-published a good-sounding Stephen screed (or I think he used “DSH” that time).

    I’m pretty sure his opposite-sounding posts are either (1) bipolarism of some kind, or (2) meant as bait so you will later read one of his insane rants seriously, or (3) just perversion-for-fun. I still don’t know which; just that it’s got to be one.

    Comment by Calarato — March 4, 2006 @ 12:42 pm - March 4, 2006

  17. V the K, you’ve be a loyal support of this blog and an eloquent defender of Bruce and me, but you’re wrong on Patrick (Gryph). He has taken liberal Democrats to task a number of times. He tipped this blog off to San Francisco’s blocking the berthing of the Iowa.

    And this time he does raise a valid point. Perhaps Ms. Muhammed is not as much as hate monger as Farrakhan. Still, gay groups would raise a ruckus whenever the president appoints a Christian conservative to a panel on AIDS. This is at least a cause for concern. And I could not find any evidence that she said she disagreed with Farrakhan’s hateful words about gay men, lesbians and Jews–even though she invited her commission colleagues to the gathering where he spoke them.

    Comment by GayPatriotWest — March 4, 2006 @ 2:28 pm - March 4, 2006

  18. The Iowa thing is nifty, Dan – but what about all the times Gryph has tried to spread outright falsehoods here, lifted from liberal Democrat talking points?

    Comment by Calarato — March 4, 2006 @ 4:15 pm - March 4, 2006

  19. GPW, I was being tongue-in-cheek, but Gryph does have a history of shrill attacks against everyone and everything on the right, and a history of knee-jerk defense of those on the left. It would have been more accurate to say those statements were true of Gryph 96% of the time rather than ‘Always.’

    Comment by V the K — March 4, 2006 @ 4:25 pm - March 4, 2006

  20. Kevin, you need to brush up on the details of Mr Rumsfeld’s 1st and 2nd visits to Saddam; he was there exploring whether Saddam had any motivation or interest in accepting US assistance in the efforts to contain Iran’s radical govt…. something, given what we know now, I wish he’d been able to do. As records indicate, on the 2nd visit Mr Rumsfeld (private citizen Presiential envoy) brought up the issue of the use of WMD by Saddam, the big chez threw him out and Rumsfled’s security detachment felt lucky to get out of Saddam’s palace alive.

    So screw the cheap shots and creating stories from ancient press pics from presidential administrations triple times back in history. Both you and Kos need to put down the Howie Dean koolaid.

    On Gov Blog and the gay hatemongers… it’s neat that the Naiton of Islam has already played the race card… if Gov Blog dumps SisterM, he’s a racist and will have a “hard time in the black community”.

    How about this gay Chicago: he ought to be having a VERY HARD TIME in the gay community. Where’s that political clout the GayLeft’s been amassing? Oh yeah, down on the Democrat Party plantation with black, Jewish, and eco-friendly voters.

    And Patrick did you actually write “Could it be that Garcia is actually judging the woman based on her individual merit rather than the group she is associated with? What a novel concept.”

    Did you say that with a str8 face or do you know nothing of the good Sister and her work with the gay hatemongers? Have you ever read a LouisF speech? The man is certifiable in his hatred of gays; how you could even defend it or offer something as plausible as she got the job on merit, is pure bullshit.

    She is the MOUTH of LouisF! It’s not like she can distance herself adequately from his recent comments (feb 28th) like these:

    These false Jews promote the filth of Hollywood that is seeding the American people and the people of the world and bringing you down in moral strength…It’s the wicked Jews the false Jews that are promoting Lesbianism, homosexuality. It’s wicked Jews, false Jews that make it a crime for you to preach the word of God, then they call you homophobic!”

    “God does not love everybody. He said he loved Jacob but he hated Esau. So if God is our example and he can love and he can hate then don’t be afraid to love and don’t be afraid to hate.”

    Patrick you need to do some research and join the GOP legislators calling for her removal.

    Comment by Michigan-Matt — March 4, 2006 @ 4:51 pm - March 4, 2006

  21. Hey, the Republican candidate for Gov called for her removal here:

    http://www.ron2006.com/

    It says: “Ron Gidwitz was the first Republican official to call for Governor Rod Blagojevich to remove Sister Claudette Muhammad from this commissioner and he has been joined by numerous voices on both sides of the political isle. Today, Gidwitz renewed his call for Blagojevich to reconsider and rescind this appointment.”

    Again, progressive GOPers lead the debate on correcting an anti-gay slanderous appointment.

    Hmmmm.

    Comment by Michigan-Matt — March 4, 2006 @ 4:54 pm - March 4, 2006

  22. Dan, Dan, Dan. She might not be as bad as LouisF? I like most of your posts and opinions, but that defense of Patrick’s silly statement is pure crap. Let’s spend some time on research before you argue LouisF’s mouthpiece can’t be as homophobic as the Leader of the Nation of Islam.

    Comment by Michigan-Matt — March 4, 2006 @ 4:59 pm - March 4, 2006

  23. Just to mention it, you people do realize that Chicago is the center of the Nation of Islam, and Farrakhan lives there, right?

    Comment by rightwingprof — March 4, 2006 @ 5:17 pm - March 4, 2006

  24. Calarato (or whoever): See No. 30 of “How Do Liberals Sleep at Night.” You and NDT have been exposed. No further comment. And how do you sleep at night?

    Comment by Stephen — March 4, 2006 @ 6:55 pm - March 4, 2006

  25. By not listening to spooky stories and letting my imagination run away with me.

    Comment by Synova — March 4, 2006 @ 7:53 pm - March 4, 2006

  26. And how do you sleep at night?

    A lot easier knowing I’m not on the side of the deranged left, and also with a smile on my face from reading the entertainingly hysterical meltdowns occasionally provided in this forum… of which #30 in the “How Do Liberals Sleep at Night Thread” is a fine example. (I imagine it being delivered by Branden Frasier’s “Boyfriend” in Bedazzled … it makes it even funnier.)

    Comment by V the K — March 4, 2006 @ 8:19 pm - March 4, 2006

  27. I know. I see pages upon pages of (expected or probable) raving in that other thread. Stephen apparently still hasn’t caught on that I don’t even bother reading him, most of the time, except as quoted or extracted in others’ posts. Many others probably do the same. Let the loony rave! :-)

    Comment by Calarato — March 4, 2006 @ 8:36 pm - March 4, 2006

  28. LOL…..my reprinted response to Stephen’s threat and screed:

    And actually, Stephen, the point in “outing” you was simply to reveal how you change names depending on what you’re going to post. What I did over on The Malcontent was to reveal the fact that you were posting under multiple identities in support of your own posts.

    As I recalled, you tried this same stunt before, and I answered; when you whined that that wasn’t good enough, my friend Jack Malebranche saw fit to put you in your place, my favorite part of which is this excellent rejoinder:

    Using your real name doesn’t make your arguments stronger or more convincing. Arguments, and facts, stand on their own.

    And that’s the difference, Stephen.

    I have repeatedly shown how liberal gays like you couldn’t recognize homophobia practiced by a Democrat if it bit you, and I have provided numerous quotes and links to show how you and yours regularly praise homophobic Democrats and invent wild, fanciful accusations about conservatives, including concentration camps and stripping them of jobs and imprisoning them.

    And the best argument you can muster is “You use a pseudonym, so you must be wrong”.

    So did Ben Franklin.

    And the supreme irony, Stephen, is that if you’re as active in the San Francisco gay community as you claim to be, you’ve probably already seen me. Indeed, if you want to know what I look like, you can go over to my blog; there are pictures aplenty in my post.

    So, to summarize…..nice try.

    Comment by North Dallas Thirty — March 4, 2006 @ 9:42 pm - March 4, 2006

  29. Michigan-Matt–I’m defending the validity of Patrick’s point. It’s a good point, not necessarily one that I agree with. And please note the “Perhaps” in my previous comment.

    Comment by Dan (AKA GayPatriotWest) — March 4, 2006 @ 10:30 pm - March 4, 2006

  30. #7
    the same way members of the Reagan administration (some of whom are now part of the Bush administration) were cozy with Saddam Huessin?

    You know damn well that they weren’t, team killing fucktard.

    Comment by ThatGayConservative — March 4, 2006 @ 10:56 pm - March 4, 2006

  31. What the hell does a Hate-Crimes Commission do, anyway? Sounds like another idiotic leftist feel-good speech (and thought!)-limiting governmentspeak organization. Maybe they ought to throw the whole damned thing out and save the salaries. And the headache.
    My stupid ideas, at least.

    Comment by ColoradoPatriot — March 4, 2006 @ 11:08 pm - March 4, 2006

  32. You mean, like say, oh, I dunno…..the same way members of the Reagan administration (some of whom are now part of the Bush administration) were cozy with Saddam Huessin? Gotta love that picture of Rumsfeld (with big smile on his face) shaking hands with Saddam in the 80s.

    No, more like these pictures:

    http://www.s-t.com/daily/12-98/12-15-98/clinton2.jpg

    http://diodon349.com/Conservative_Corner/conser_images/JKerry_In_VN_with_Reds_2004_photo.jpg

    http://home.att.net/~trackitdown/kerry-with-ortega-small-caption.jpg

    Gotta love those!

    DICKwad.

    Comment by ThatGayConservative — March 4, 2006 @ 11:27 pm - March 4, 2006

  33. The chair of the Ill. hate crimes commission spoke out finally. The Rev. Willie Barrow, also a former co-chair of Rainbow/Push, surprise, supports Claudette Muhammad.

    http://cbs2chicago.com/seenon/local_story_062195420.html

    Comment by John Ruberry — March 4, 2006 @ 11:43 pm - March 4, 2006

  34. Thanks for the link, John….and did anyone catch this?

    Muhammad serves as minister of protocol for Louis Farrakhan’s Nation of Islam.

    I don’t think she can distance herself.

    Comment by North Dallas Thirty — March 4, 2006 @ 11:58 pm - March 4, 2006

  35. #31 — Totally with you, there. I wonder how much tax money is wasted every year on useless bureaucracies whose sole purpose is to make liberals feel better. And based on the amount of whining that continues to pour from the left, it ain’t workin’.

    Comment by V the K — March 5, 2006 @ 9:42 am - March 5, 2006

  36. Dan, I sent you the link to Pam Spaulding’s post on this topic several days ago. Instapundit came on the story late.

    Here’s the Windy City Times article on the topic. Rick Garcia and Equality Illinois deserve email on this topic.

    http://www.windycitymediagroup.com/gay/lesbian/news/ARTICLE.php?AID=10908

    Comment by Eva Young — March 5, 2006 @ 10:00 am - March 5, 2006

  37. I’m surprised the Chicago chapter of Log Cabin Republicans isn’t speaking out on this.

    Comment by Eva Young — March 5, 2006 @ 10:02 am - March 5, 2006

  38. And this time he does raise a valid point. Perhaps Ms. Muhammed is not as much as hate monger as Farrakhan. Still, gay groups would raise a ruckus whenever the president appoints a Christian conservative to a panel on AIDS.

    Thanks Dan. What I was actually thinking is that on a day-to-day basis in working with her, maybe she has never shown any sign of being homophobic or being anti-semitic. How should you judge such a person? I can think you can judge someone by the organizations they choose to be a part of, but only to a point. Has anyone actually looked at the things she has done and said herself? I find it interesting that Garcia may have actually done what those people who preach tolerance always say you should do, which is to not stereotype someone and to look at them as an individual instead of an “it”. His values are congruent with what you would hope a member of a hate crimes task force would have. And he is probably going to be burned at the stake for possibly actually practicing what is preached.

    And I don’t know why so many posts on this thread have to have my name in it. If you trolls can’t find something more interesting to discuss than my not-so-humble self, then really you must be morally, intellectually, bankrupt of any new ideas. So maybe you should just shut up until you have something worth contributing to the discussion other than just another tired old attack on me.

    Comment by Patrick (Gryph) — March 5, 2006 @ 11:41 am - March 5, 2006

  39. I wonder how much tax money is wasted every year on useless bureaucracies whose sole purpose is to make liberals feel better.

    Feeeeeee-lings!
    Whoa-oh-oh
    Feeeeeee-lings!

    ducks and runs away

    Comment by rightwingprof — March 5, 2006 @ 11:50 am - March 5, 2006

  40. Patrick said…

    “And I don’t know why so many posts on this thread have to have my name in it. If you trolls can’t find something more interesting to discuss than my not-so-humble self, then really you must be morally, intellectually, bankrupt of any new ideas. So maybe you should just shut up until you have something worth contributing to the discussion other than just another tired old attack on me.”

    Oh my Lord, are you SERIOUS about this? Where do I begin?

    To begin with, I, for one, included your name because of your ridiculously disingenuous statement regarding Mizzzzz Mohammed getting a pass with regard to her long association with NOI, and your deafening silence with regard to Alito and the Princeton Alumni.

    As for the “troll” comment, perhaps you might want to ascertain the proper definition of the term. There are no trolls here, sir.

    And finally, if we are all, indeed, bereft of morals, intellect or new ideas, then I would ask why the fuck you insist on polluting your pure, innocent, brilliant liberal air with our filth? Is it your wish to save us from ourselves, or the Great Satan currently occupying the White House?

    Either way, you’ve finally shown yourself to be every bit the petulant child we’ve always suspected you of being.

    Eric in Hollywood

    Comment by HollywoodNeoCon — March 5, 2006 @ 12:22 pm - March 5, 2006

  41. Well, after a while away, it’s reassuring to come back by here and see that some things have not changed at all (e.g., the bloggers trying to obscure the Bush decline with this-or-that silly story about a perceived Democratic atrocity, the unrequited anger and foul mouth of ThatGayConservative, and oh yes, the still Junior Varsity talents of MishMatt whatever).

    But one thing has changed and brings at least one note of fun to the site: the progressive public disrobing of North Dallas Thirty. And I mean to tell you: the girl must be on a diet. How do you go from all that chub in the proud photos of last Summer to the slimmed down Speedo fatale? Can we credit that to the move to the Bay Area and perhaps spending more time after hours under the glitter ball? That’ll certainly shed the pounds. But all this reveal is too much to absorb from our little bisexual who loves bush; hopefully, the proud “husband” is happy though.

    Anyway…scanning the posts I’ve missed, I’m struck by the absence of anything related to the raging debates of the day. No Ports controversy here; nothing on the Katrina aftermath, nothing on having to visit great allies under cover of darkness-running lights off-shades pulled down; nothing about adding trillions (TRILLIONS) to the national debt; nothing about the Neo-Cons now eating their own; nothing on the last days of the GOP Culture of Corruption; and nothing even about the coming civil war in Iraq. What has happened here? Has malaise set in as Dear Leader’s poll numbers slide right on down past historic lows for a second-termer? 34% approval, and that’s among the 93% with an opinion. Re-base to 100% and you’ve got 32% approval vs. 68% disapproval — about what cousin Pussy Patriot was predicting months ago here and being tongue-lashed repeatedly for (something I’m not sure Pussy minded all that much). So, kudos to precious Prescient Pussy.

    [This is one poll that has been discredited because it oversamples Democrats. And even if it were accurate, the numbers do no represent historic lows for a second-term president. Check out Harry S Truman’s numbers. –Ed.]

    Speaking of Pussy, did anyone catch her recent guest turn at Yellow Elephant? The girl deserves a CMH for her continuing expose of the Chickenhawk mindset.

    Comment by Queer Patriot — March 5, 2006 @ 2:31 pm - March 5, 2006

  42. I nominate Fred Phelps for the Hate Crimes Commission for three reasons.

    1. He’s a Democrat
    2. He’s a lawyer
    3. He hates a lot of people

    QP #41 I managed to get through the 1st two paragraphs of your presonal attack/rant/bitchy fit and asked myself, why should I waste valuable time on on such 3rd rate blogspam? The answer is, of course, I shouldn’t. If you actually have anything to say in future I suggest that you start your post with that and then spew.

    Comment by Bobo — March 5, 2006 @ 2:50 pm - March 5, 2006

  43. Without any names (they’re pointedly obvious), why all these ad hominem attacks? Nothing new, I grant you, but they’re getting sick, perverse, and personal. I’d like just one person other than Bruce, Dan, Patrick, Jack, or myself actually to make a theoretical or practical point about a position and argue the merits of the claim. Yes, this does require you to think before you spout, but that might be good. Perhaps some of you just can’t do it. Fine. Then keep quiet. Must you constantly interject the same ad hominems and tired epithets “as if” you were thoughtfully examining a point of policy? It’s bad enough that a couple of you have reduced yourselves to caricatures of “reactionary, conflicted queers,” and you’ve definitely brought ignominy on yourselves (even though you probably haven’t a clue). If verbal abuse is your way of handling tough issues of the day, all you do is show just how vacuous you really are. What concerns me more, though, is that many of you make gays and conservatism look downright wacky. I don’t mind if you make fools of yourselves, which many have done quite ablely, but you are making gays and conservatives look wacky, and that I can’t abide. Some of us take our civics and sexual orientation seriously enough to fight for causes we believe. If you disagree with someone else’s objectives or means, fine, but then explain why. (I’m sounding like the teacher I am.) For many of you, this blog is your Romper Room, and it clearly shows. If you won’t take yourselves seriously, why should anyone else? If you want to behave like wtretched brats, isn’t there another venue for that?

    Comment by Stephen — March 5, 2006 @ 3:00 pm - March 5, 2006

  44. No. 41. Queer Patriot: You’re not alone.

    Comment by Stephen — March 5, 2006 @ 3:01 pm - March 5, 2006

  45. #38 — Y’know Gryph, the classy thing to do would have been to thank GPW and then let it go.

    Comment by V the K — March 5, 2006 @ 4:26 pm - March 5, 2006

  46. My, my, my…

    Now I wonder why all the moonbats have lost their collective minds?

    Without getting too personal, however, special mention needs to be made of Pussy, who seems so “above it all,” that she needs to refer to herself in the third person. My stars and garters, girl, aren’t we awfully full of ourselves????

    I haven’t seen fevered egos like this since the last Filene’s Basement sale.

    And as for the rest of you numbed-out glory-hole fixtures (yes Stephen & Patrick, I’m referring to you ladies), your feeble attempts to take the high road whilst simultaneously felching on whatever altered reality you’ve chosen to follow this afternoon are ridiculously futile.

    One more thing, Stephen, my little punching bag…

    If you think you can shut people up just by saying so, than you’re an even bigger fascist than I suspected.

    Eric in Hollywood
    deliriously happy to see so many insanely miserable lefties this fine, southern California afternoon

    Comment by HollywoodNeoCon — March 5, 2006 @ 5:58 pm - March 5, 2006

  47. Without any names (they’re pointedly obvious), why all these ad hominem attacks? Nothing new, I grant you, but they’re getting sick, perverse, and personal. I’d like just one person other than Bruce, Dan, Patrick, Jack, or myself actually to make a theoretical or practical point about a position and argue the merits of the claim.

    Now that is pure, amusing hypocrisy, especially given Stephen’s previous statements about gay Republicans:

    But a “queer” species of Republicanism has recently evolved. At its core it is hostile to the liberal conception of government being neutral to whatever one perceives to be the common good. Instead of that historical paradigm, it has become a government of self-righteous moralists. Many of them want to add the 318 biblical laws to the Constitution. They not only hate GLBT, but they want to punish us by denying us even minimal subsistence: wages and housing. I suspect, if they could, they’d imprison GLBT, but even though their leader GWB has done it repeatedly with other Americans, they’re not sure they can persuade the rest of Amerika to join them.

    So that’s where it stands; Stephen says all gay Republicans want to strip gays of jobs, rights, and housing, then send them off to concentration camps. Indeed, Stephen, Queer Patriot, and the other board liberals say that said concentration camps are already operating.

    So go ahead, Stephen; prove it. Argue the merits of that claim you made. Bring forth the evidence you have of the concentration camps.

    Oh, and by the way….whining about personal attacks is kind of funny when you support Queer Patriot calling me fat. :)

    Comment by North Dallas Thirty — March 5, 2006 @ 7:28 pm - March 5, 2006

  48. They not only hate GLBT, but they want to punish us by denying us even minimal subsistence: wages and housing.

    Damn, I need to stop scrolling over Stephen’s rantings. That’s frakkin’ hilarious.

    No doubt Stephen and his new padded cell-mate QP (or Kewpie, or Cowpie) could not point to anywhere where anyone on the right has actually advocated any of that, just as Kevin couldn’t source his contention that Republicans wanted gay people “exterminated.” But they will stand by their allegation, because it just has to be true.

    The voices say so.

    Comment by V the K — March 5, 2006 @ 8:00 pm - March 5, 2006

  49. another LOL :-)

    Comment by Calarato — March 5, 2006 @ 8:07 pm - March 5, 2006

  50. By the way, Stephen, ya big psycho:

    You wouldn’t recognize a valid theoretical argument if it hit you over the head with a 2×4. You would merely twist it to suit whatever perverted notion you’re onto next – hiding behind multiple anonymous monikers / personalities if possible – which is why I skip you (unless someone else happens to quote you).

    And 90% of the time, Dan (whom I always read) must remind you to actually READ what he wrote and ADDRESS something he had actually said. So, if I were you, I wouldn’t drop Dan’s name too much, hah hah.

    Comment by Calarato — March 5, 2006 @ 8:16 pm - March 5, 2006

  51. I have to admit to being a little confused about the post. You seem to be castigating the Republican Log Cabineers for not criticizing the IL Democrat governor’s appointment of a NoI official to the state’s Hate Crimes Commission. Aside from the fact that the commission’s mandate appears to be a bit unclear, why would the Republican Log Cabineers want to avoid criticizing a Democrat for his appointments? Given what is reported here there would appear to be no reason for the LCRs to avoid criticizing him–the LCRs are Republicans, after all.

    Comment by raj — March 6, 2006 @ 6:37 am - March 6, 2006

  52. That gay groups would remain silent while all this is going on is inexcusable. Given the political affiliation of the Governor, however, this is something we have come to expect from national gay organizations, even the one that calls itself Republican.

    Can’t win for loosing – If Gay Grps had or have said something about this subject – You’d find some way to critisize it! They can’t win either way with LCR’s.

    Comment by JRC — March 6, 2006 @ 10:22 am - March 6, 2006

  53. The reason is, Raj, that National LCR has of late been more concerned with making kissy-kissy with the leftist gay groups than it has anything else; those who criticize Democrats are shunned, excluded, and criticized by said groups.

    Case in point: JRC.

    Can’t win for loosing – If Gay Grps had or have said something about this subject – You’d find some way to critisize it! They can’t win either way with LCR’s.

    Translation: “HOW DARE YOU CRITICIZE THE MASSA DEMOCRAT!”

    Comment by North Dallas Thirty — March 6, 2006 @ 11:42 am - March 6, 2006

  54. Can’t win for loosing – If Gay Grps had or have said something about this subject – You’d find some way to critisize it! They can’t win either way with LCR’s.

    Actually I think most of those that critisize are not “LCR’s”, they pretty much hate that group just as much as they hate HRC.

    Comment by Patrick (Gryph) — March 6, 2006 @ 11:43 am - March 6, 2006

  55. Patrick, you have to get some air… and balance in YOUR life.

    The simple facts here are that LouisF’s protocol official is working for a hate-mongering, homophobic bigot. The first ranking Illinois politician to come out and demand she be pulled from the Commission was a GOPer. Go figure? Hmmm.

    SisterM’s job with LouisF’s organization is part advance team, part communications and policy staffer, and part advocate. Some of her writings before she became SisterM are filled with hate against white males, gay males, and anything with balls and a penis. But don’t worry, from what I’ve seen and read of you, you’re safe.

    And look, to call people trolls here is… well, just so 3rd Grade I’d think that tactic would have better traction over at OutSports with the whacked GayLefties who tend those fields. Do you remember making that point about others being 3rd Graders here recently?

    You gotta get a new act, Gramps… playing the victimhood card while trying to plant a tag on the opposing comments (like up above at 38) is very Democrat of you.

    Comment by Michigan-Matt — March 6, 2006 @ 1:08 pm - March 6, 2006

  56. Dan,

    You are incorrect.

    The Chicago Chapter of Log Cabin is addressing this issue since it was called to my attention. We have called upon Rick Garcia, executive director of Illinois Equality and member of the panel, to call of her resignation or, at the very least, a repudiation of the statements made by Farrakhan. Garcia has continues to show his allegiance to the democrats in Illinois and refuses to act accordingly.

    We have also launched an advocacy (e-mail) campaign to Blagojevich calling for her resignation. You may visit our website at http://www.lcrchicago.com and send him an email yourself if you like.

    We will continue to press the LGBT representatives on this panel to
    speak out against discrimination.

    Regards
    Erik Linell
    President, Log Cabin Republicans – Chicago

    PS In the future, I would urge you to look at the local chapter websites to see if the grassroot effort underway.

    Comment by Erik Linell — March 6, 2006 @ 3:49 pm - March 6, 2006

  57. The simple facts here are that LouisF’s protocol official is working for a hate-mongering, homophobic bigot. The first ranking Illinois politician to come out and demand she be pulled from the Commission was a GOPer. Go figure? Hmmm.

    I never said she wasn’t prejudiced, etc. All I said is that it may be that Garcia has never seen any sign of her being a bigot from his personal experience with her. That doesn’t mean he isn’t in error. And should you judge people more by your personal experience with them or by what other people tell you about them?

    Comment by Patrick (gryph) — March 6, 2006 @ 4:29 pm - March 6, 2006

  58. Patrick, aside from the rhetorical question, yes, the Governor’s Office should judge an individual by the groups they associate with and –here’s the crux you seem to keep missing– and the groups they WORK for. SisterM works in a highly visible, public position for a hate-mongering anti-gay bigot and his organization. She’s employed by them –not a volunteer. The real issue is that to advocate for her removal will put Democrats at odds with black constituencies the Democrats have cultivated for generations. Garcia, who should be defending gay interests, is padding the kneelers for the Democrats and you’re right in there with him. “All I said…” indeed.

    Why you seem to feel an overriding need to defend Democrats in both appointing and supporting such an appointment –which is clearly untoward gay interests– is amazing to any gay not caught up in your unequivocal defense of Democrats.

    It would be no different if Gov Blagojevich appointed a Klan member who worked for the Klan, a latino supremecist who worked for a radical bigoted advocacy group, or a skinhead group’s minister of protocol to the Commission. It would still be wrong –and it’s troubling that you, as a gay man, would pad the kneelers for these folks by offering the inplausible defense they were selecting SisterM based on merit –as Garcia’s comments suggest.

    No Patrick, you should have written: This is wrong. There’s no defense of it. The GOP candidate for Gov was right in calling for her removal.

    That is the right Gay thing to do.

    Comment by Michigan-Matt — March 7, 2006 @ 9:12 am - March 7, 2006

  59. I sure hope it doesn’t happen, but if the Democrats take over power in 06, at least we’ll have a wave of pro-gay legislation including legalized gay marriage. I’ll be holding my breath and betting the bank on it.

    Comment by Dale in L.A. — March 7, 2006 @ 12:49 pm - March 7, 2006

  60. LOL….you’ll end up blue-faced and poor, Dale.

    Then again, if you redefine “pro-gay” and “gay-supportive”, as do gay Democrats and liberals, to include rants like Farrakhan’s and constitutional amendments stripping gays of rights like Kerry or Solmonese, you’ll survive. :)

    Comment by North Dallas Thirty — March 7, 2006 @ 1:10 pm - March 7, 2006

  61. Actually Dan, if you look at the action alert by Log Cabin – Chicago – it’s an example of where investment at the national level in web activism software allows the local chapter to increase their effectiveness. This is a state issue, and one where the state chapter should take the lead.

    Kudos to Log Cabin – Chicago.

    Comment by Eva Young — March 7, 2006 @ 7:24 pm - March 7, 2006

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