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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Mar 2006 02:28:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.reason.com/links/links092105.shtml&quot;&gt;The original assertion&lt;/a&gt;, repeated here, that Bush has spent more than LBJ referred to the discretionary spending of the two administrations.

I&#039;m not defending Part D.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.reason.com/links/links092105.shtml">The original assertion</a>, repeated here, that Bush has spent more than LBJ referred to the discretionary spending of the two administrations.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not defending Part D.</p>
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		<title>By: V the K</title>
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		<dc:creator>V the K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Mar 2006 13:54:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#55 --- Discretionary spending is not what is killing us, though. It&#039;s entitlements. And GWB enacted the largest (and most unnecessary) entitlement program since LBJ ... the Prescription Drug Giveaway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#55 &#8212; Discretionary spending is not what is killing us, though. It&#8217;s entitlements. And GWB enacted the largest (and most unnecessary) entitlement program since LBJ &#8230; the Prescription Drug Giveaway.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Mar 2006 03:40:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;so how come the budget under GWB has increased more than under LBJ; that’s a feat&lt;/i&gt;

I keep reading this comparison of GWB to LBJ regarding spending.   It is very misleading.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cbo.gov/budget/historical.pdf&quot;&gt;Discretionary spending during GWB has averaged 7.4% of GDP&lt;/a&gt;(pdf file).  This is quite modest when compared to LBJ’s 12.4%.  Just to be fair, Clinton averaged 7% and Reagan 11%.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>so how come the budget under GWB has increased more than under LBJ; that’s a feat</i></p>
<p>I keep reading this comparison of GWB to LBJ regarding spending.   It is very misleading.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.cbo.gov/budget/historical.pdf">Discretionary spending during GWB has averaged 7.4% of GDP</a>(pdf file).  This is quite modest when compared to LBJ’s 12.4%.  Just to be fair, Clinton averaged 7% and Reagan 11%.</p>
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		<title>By: Michigan-Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michigan-Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Mar 2006 23:24:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stephen, are you really that lame?  Go back i the thread, read YOUR post claiming Buckley said Bush was a failure, see my cite at TownHall or YOUR cite at NRO --they&#039;re the exact same text-- then apologize for mischaracterize Buckley, Buckley&#039;s statement about Bush, and Buckley on the WOT.

Til you do that, anything is is still a lie.  And men who tell lies, even the Liberals, are liars.

Simple enough, Stephen.  Now be a man and take care of the apology.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stephen, are you really that lame?  Go back i the thread, read YOUR post claiming Buckley said Bush was a failure, see my cite at TownHall or YOUR cite at NRO &#8211;they&#8217;re the exact same text&#8211; then apologize for mischaracterize Buckley, Buckley&#8217;s statement about Bush, and Buckley on the WOT.</p>
<p>Til you do that, anything is is still a lie.  And men who tell lies, even the Liberals, are liars.</p>
<p>Simple enough, Stephen.  Now be a man and take care of the apology.</p>
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		<title>By: V the K</title>
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		<dc:creator>V the K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Mar 2006 23:12:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stephen, Bush liberated 50,000,000 people, planted the seeds of democracy in the Middle East, obliterated al Qaeda&#039;s capacity to kill American civilians, and steered the country out of economic recession. You, on the other hand, are a petty old man whose highest achievement is posting deranged rants on a conservative gay weblog that inspire only ridicule. Who&#039;s the bigger failure?

(I mean, Bush&#039;s domestic policies are more or less disastrous, but at least he has the power to implement them... unlike petty old men who have nothing more to contribute than deranged rants on weblogs.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stephen, Bush liberated 50,000,000 people, planted the seeds of democracy in the Middle East, obliterated al Qaeda&#8217;s capacity to kill American civilians, and steered the country out of economic recession. You, on the other hand, are a petty old man whose highest achievement is posting deranged rants on a conservative gay weblog that inspire only ridicule. Who&#8217;s the bigger failure?</p>
<p>(I mean, Bush&#8217;s domestic policies are more or less disastrous, but at least he has the power to implement them&#8230; unlike petty old men who have nothing more to contribute than deranged rants on weblogs.)</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Mar 2006 22:13:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay, wingnuts, my browser misfired, but you seem to forget that YOU claimed WFB said X, when he said Y, and he didn&#039;t. GWB is a failed president, and Iraq is a failed war. But you&#039;ll never get it. Fortunately, your numbers are dwindling.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, wingnuts, my browser misfired, but you seem to forget that YOU claimed WFB said X, when he said Y, and he didn&#8217;t. GWB is a failed president, and Iraq is a failed war. But you&#8217;ll never get it. Fortunately, your numbers are dwindling.</p>
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		<title>By: nuyorker</title>
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		<dc:creator>nuyorker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Mar 2006 14:40:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>V the K.... Winston Churchill said it best &quot;a lie gets halfway around the world before truth has a chance to get its pants on&quot; am sure the msm is counting on that</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>V the K&#8230;. Winston Churchill said it best &#8220;a lie gets halfway around the world before truth has a chance to get its pants on&#8221; am sure the msm is counting on that</p>
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		<title>By: V the K</title>
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		<dc:creator>V the K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Mar 2006 13:45:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, and, by the way. By adding that one bi-weekly 12 seconds of &quot;there is progress in Iraq&quot; to their 13,000 weekly stories of &#039;civil war, Abu Ghraib, Bush is a failure, no WMDs, no links to al Qaeda,&quot; coverage, the MSM can then claim they are presenting both sides.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and, by the way. By adding that one bi-weekly 12 seconds of &#8220;there is progress in Iraq&#8221; to their 13,000 weekly stories of &#8216;civil war, Abu Ghraib, Bush is a failure, no WMDs, no links to al Qaeda,&#8221; coverage, the MSM can then claim they are presenting both sides.</p>
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		<title>By: V the K</title>
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		<dc:creator>V the K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Mar 2006 13:41:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#47 --- Don&#039;t forget, the MSM has a huge investment in the &quot;No links between Saddam and al Qaeda&quot; lie, and, since the media has been banging that drum so loud for so long, they would look like fools to admit they were wrong now.  Remember, Dan Rather still claims the memos were real.

And remember a couple of weeks ago, when the media came out early in the week witha HUGE over-hyped story that &quot;Bush knew the levees would breach and he let people die anyway because he&#039;s incompetent and he wanted black folks to die.&quot; They pumped that story all week. Then, Friday afternoon, just when people stopped paying attention, they issued a tiny, quiet retraction. That&#039;s how the media handles their &quot;Mistakes.&quot;

Come to think of it, that&#039;s similar to how the MSM has handled all their Iraq reporting. Bad news gets hyped all week. Good news gets a twelve second &quot;but there&#039;s some progress in Iraq, too&quot; story every other weekend on those lame Saturday morning shows nobody watches.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#47 &#8212; Don&#8217;t forget, the MSM has a huge investment in the &#8220;No links between Saddam and al Qaeda&#8221; lie, and, since the media has been banging that drum so loud for so long, they would look like fools to admit they were wrong now.  Remember, Dan Rather still claims the memos were real.</p>
<p>And remember a couple of weeks ago, when the media came out early in the week witha HUGE over-hyped story that &#8220;Bush knew the levees would breach and he let people die anyway because he&#8217;s incompetent and he wanted black folks to die.&#8221; They pumped that story all week. Then, Friday afternoon, just when people stopped paying attention, they issued a tiny, quiet retraction. That&#8217;s how the media handles their &#8220;Mistakes.&#8221;</p>
<p>Come to think of it, that&#8217;s similar to how the MSM has handled all their Iraq reporting. Bad news gets hyped all week. Good news gets a twelve second &#8220;but there&#8217;s some progress in Iraq, too&#8221; story every other weekend on those lame Saturday morning shows nobody watches.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Hulsey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim Hulsey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Mar 2006 09:06:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>28: &lt;i&gt;Perhaps the American public is pessimistic because Big Brother media indoctrinated them to be pessimistic.&lt;/i&gt;

Two problems with that, Sy -- 1) Now that FoxNews is on the scene, American media is no longer completely dominated by leftists.  2) Unlike Europeans, Americans tend not to accept blatant editorializing from our media (which is a major reason FoxNews is held in fairly low esteem).  I suspect that Abu Ghraib and Hurricane Katrina were the two major turning points in American popular opinion on Iraq, and that the latter was much more important than the former.

Mind, I don&#039;t claim that American media has &lt;i&gt;not&lt;/i&gt; played a role in shifting public opinion.  But it&#039;s awfully easy to overestimate their impact.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>28: <i>Perhaps the American public is pessimistic because Big Brother media indoctrinated them to be pessimistic.</i></p>
<p>Two problems with that, Sy &#8212; 1) Now that FoxNews is on the scene, American media is no longer completely dominated by leftists.  2) Unlike Europeans, Americans tend not to accept blatant editorializing from our media (which is a major reason FoxNews is held in fairly low esteem).  I suspect that Abu Ghraib and Hurricane Katrina were the two major turning points in American popular opinion on Iraq, and that the latter was much more important than the former.</p>
<p>Mind, I don&#8217;t claim that American media has <i>not</i> played a role in shifting public opinion.  But it&#8217;s awfully easy to overestimate their impact.</p>
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		<title>By: Calarato</title>
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		<dc:creator>Calarato</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Mar 2006 03:36:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#41 - Hey, wow!  At least the commentor blamed the lying on Saddam!

Here&#039;s what I think will happen with the Iraq documents.  The raging Lefty moonbats will tell themselves, and their followers, that they are all forgeries.  Being such experts at lies and forgery, and still smarting from one of their big forgeries being exposed (the Rather-Mapes documents), it will be &quot;on the brain&quot;, so to speak, and something they badly want to get even for.  They will use their standard echo-chamber tactics to prevent a drop of reality from ever seeping in on them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#41 &#8211; Hey, wow!  At least the commentor blamed the lying on Saddam!</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s what I think will happen with the Iraq documents.  The raging Lefty moonbats will tell themselves, and their followers, that they are all forgeries.  Being such experts at lies and forgery, and still smarting from one of their big forgeries being exposed (the Rather-Mapes documents), it will be &#8220;on the brain&#8221;, so to speak, and something they badly want to get even for.  They will use their standard echo-chamber tactics to prevent a drop of reality from ever seeping in on them.</p>
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		<title>By: HollywoodNeoCon</title>
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		<dc:creator>HollywoodNeoCon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Mar 2006 21:34:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Matt said...

&lt;i&gt;&quot;Stephen, the NRO articel and Townhall are the same op ed pieces, you schmuck.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

I can&#039;t believe Stephen tried to pull that shit - as if NO ONE here would have picked up on it.

Jesus Hairy Christ, my man! This would be funny if it weren&#039;t so damned typical.

Eric in Hollywood</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt said&#8230;</p>
<p><i>&#8220;Stephen, the NRO articel and Townhall are the same op ed pieces, you schmuck.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>I can&#8217;t believe Stephen tried to pull that shit &#8211; as if NO ONE here would have picked up on it.</p>
<p>Jesus Hairy Christ, my man! This would be funny if it weren&#8217;t so damned typical.</p>
<p>Eric in Hollywood</p>
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		<title>By: Michigan-Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michigan-Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Mar 2006 21:28:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stephen and not to let your little lying weasely self off, Buckley and the editors at NRO had Brent Scowcroft in recently to chat about Iraq... Scowcroft is pessimistic about opportunities in Iraq --to be generous.  Guess what?  When the interview was over and the editors at NRO were writing up an analysis, Buckley offered: &quot;Scowcroft wants us to hopeless and insecure.  Any takers?&quot;

Buckley went on: &quot;The reality of the situation is that missions abroad to effect regime change in countries without a bill of rights or democratic tradition are terribly arduous... This isn’t to say that the [Iraq] war is wrong, or that history will judge it to be wrong.&quot;

At Buckley&#039;s 80th B-day party at the WH, Bush paid tribute to this great American --someone who Russell Kirk would have identified as a &quot;Root of the American Order&quot; if still alive and writing.  The warmth between Bush and Buckley and the 200+ attendees was obvious.  Buckley and Bush are fondly held Yale alums.

You Stephen, on the other hand, are a flat out liar of the first order.  And to clothe yourself in some comfortable affectation of intimacy with Buckley, conservativism, or American honor is false.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stephen and not to let your little lying weasely self off, Buckley and the editors at NRO had Brent Scowcroft in recently to chat about Iraq&#8230; Scowcroft is pessimistic about opportunities in Iraq &#8211;to be generous.  Guess what?  When the interview was over and the editors at NRO were writing up an analysis, Buckley offered: &#8220;Scowcroft wants us to hopeless and insecure.  Any takers?&#8221;</p>
<p>Buckley went on: &#8220;The reality of the situation is that missions abroad to effect regime change in countries without a bill of rights or democratic tradition are terribly arduous&#8230; This isn’t to say that the [Iraq] war is wrong, or that history will judge it to be wrong.&#8221;</p>
<p>At Buckley&#8217;s 80th B-day party at the WH, Bush paid tribute to this great American &#8211;someone who Russell Kirk would have identified as a &#8220;Root of the American Order&#8221; if still alive and writing.  The warmth between Bush and Buckley and the 200+ attendees was obvious.  Buckley and Bush are fondly held Yale alums.</p>
<p>You Stephen, on the other hand, are a flat out liar of the first order.  And to clothe yourself in some comfortable affectation of intimacy with Buckley, conservativism, or American honor is false.</p>
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		<title>By: Michigan-Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michigan-Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Mar 2006 21:09:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stephen, the NRO articel and Townhall are the same op ed pieces, you schmuck.  Nice try to divert attention away from your bold faced lie and falt out wrong assertion.

Buckley didn&#039;t indict Bush&#039;s Administration as a failure.  You know it.  Others know it.  Buckley knows it.  Buckley underscores what we all know: Iraq will not succeed unless its people take to heart the fight of progress from dictator to democracy --a messy, imprecise, bloody journey for Iraq just as it was for America.

So, nice try at more lies.  But that dog don&#039;t hunt.

Care to offer some penance for your sins, Stephen?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stephen, the NRO articel and Townhall are the same op ed pieces, you schmuck.  Nice try to divert attention away from your bold faced lie and falt out wrong assertion.</p>
<p>Buckley didn&#8217;t indict Bush&#8217;s Administration as a failure.  You know it.  Others know it.  Buckley knows it.  Buckley underscores what we all know: Iraq will not succeed unless its people take to heart the fight of progress from dictator to democracy &#8211;a messy, imprecise, bloody journey for Iraq just as it was for America.</p>
<p>So, nice try at more lies.  But that dog don&#8217;t hunt.</p>
<p>Care to offer some penance for your sins, Stephen?</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Mar 2006 20:52:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why is it nearly everyone else acknowledges no accurate information comes out of Iraq (for the obvious reason: there&#039;s no government, so it&#039;s all ad hoc), except here? Consistency, I guess.

Oh, and the Buckley comments can be found at:

http://www.nationalreview.com/buckley/buckley200602241451.asp

I have no idea what WFB&#039;s comments on Townhall.com have to do with anything, but again, it is consistent. Shouldn&#039;t put up references that aren&#039;t really references. People can check them.

Bill&#039;s been pretty distant for quite a while now. I&#039;m sure his retirement&#039;s coinciding with GWB is purely accidental, but after reading the dude for some thirty years, I get the strange feeling he&#039;s not real happy with GWB.

Thinking about WFB&#039;s conservatism including limited government (so how come the budget under GWB has increased more than under LBJ; that&#039;s a feat)? I can&#039;t imagine he&#039;d endorse federalization of education. Nope, never. Yes, cutting taxes would typically be conservative, but certainly would not be conservative if spending is increased. That causes deficits, and conservatives are appalled by deficits. And these religious wingnuts? Yes, Bill is a conservative, Council of Trent kind of Catholic, but he must be shaking silly over GWB&#039;s endorsement of (UN)intelligent Design, cut-backs for the poor and disabled (Jesus was kind of emphatic about those things), and the theocracy that has inhabited the White House and Congress. Catholics, after all, are at least intelligent. They&#039;d never accept something so silly as &quot;the Bible is the literal, inerant Word of God, which alone is sufficient for salvation.&quot; That&#039;s simply nuts. Sullivan, another Catholic, has resorted to calling the wingnuts Christianists, so that they don&#039;t tarnish Christianity. Good move, I think. No, I think Bill&#039;s retirement could not have come at a better time. Oh, he&#039;d have supported the Iraq invasion, but he might be a tad bit displeased with how incompetent the war has been blotched. Three years into the war, and yesterday was the first day Iraqis were involved in the fighting? And, most notably, &quot;the Pentagon was caught by surprise.&quot; What does Rumsfeld do other than pontificate? He certainly hasn&#039;t a clue about warmongering. So, Bill, enjoy your retirement. Stop gritting your teeth, or you&#039;ll bite your tongue. At worse, only three more years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why is it nearly everyone else acknowledges no accurate information comes out of Iraq (for the obvious reason: there&#8217;s no government, so it&#8217;s all ad hoc), except here? Consistency, I guess.</p>
<p>Oh, and the Buckley comments can be found at:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.nationalreview.com/buckley/buckley200602241451.asp" rel="nofollow">http://www.nationalreview.com/buckley/buckley200602241451.asp</a></p>
<p>I have no idea what WFB&#8217;s comments on Townhall.com have to do with anything, but again, it is consistent. Shouldn&#8217;t put up references that aren&#8217;t really references. People can check them.</p>
<p>Bill&#8217;s been pretty distant for quite a while now. I&#8217;m sure his retirement&#8217;s coinciding with GWB is purely accidental, but after reading the dude for some thirty years, I get the strange feeling he&#8217;s not real happy with GWB.</p>
<p>Thinking about WFB&#8217;s conservatism including limited government (so how come the budget under GWB has increased more than under LBJ; that&#8217;s a feat)? I can&#8217;t imagine he&#8217;d endorse federalization of education. Nope, never. Yes, cutting taxes would typically be conservative, but certainly would not be conservative if spending is increased. That causes deficits, and conservatives are appalled by deficits. And these religious wingnuts? Yes, Bill is a conservative, Council of Trent kind of Catholic, but he must be shaking silly over GWB&#8217;s endorsement of (UN)intelligent Design, cut-backs for the poor and disabled (Jesus was kind of emphatic about those things), and the theocracy that has inhabited the White House and Congress. Catholics, after all, are at least intelligent. They&#8217;d never accept something so silly as &#8220;the Bible is the literal, inerant Word of God, which alone is sufficient for salvation.&#8221; That&#8217;s simply nuts. Sullivan, another Catholic, has resorted to calling the wingnuts Christianists, so that they don&#8217;t tarnish Christianity. Good move, I think. No, I think Bill&#8217;s retirement could not have come at a better time. Oh, he&#8217;d have supported the Iraq invasion, but he might be a tad bit displeased with how incompetent the war has been blotched. Three years into the war, and yesterday was the first day Iraqis were involved in the fighting? And, most notably, &#8220;the Pentagon was caught by surprise.&#8221; What does Rumsfeld do other than pontificate? He certainly hasn&#8217;t a clue about warmongering. So, Bill, enjoy your retirement. Stop gritting your teeth, or you&#8217;ll bite your tongue. At worse, only three more years.</p>
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		<title>By: Right Wing Nation &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Cynical? Never!</title>
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		<dc:creator>Right Wing Nation &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Cynical? Never!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Mar 2006 19:52:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Michelle Malkin, Rusty Shackleford and Gay Patriot (among many others) are blogging about the recently-released Iraqi documents. Gay Patriot: [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Michelle Malkin, Rusty Shackleford and Gay Patriot (among many others) are blogging about the recently-released Iraqi documents. Gay Patriot: [...]</p>
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		<title>By: North Dallas Thirty</title>
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		<dc:creator>North Dallas Thirty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Mar 2006 18:31:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;You can’t trust any documents that come out of Iraq. As is characteristic of any totalitarian government, the Iraqis routinely lied to others, to themselves, to everyone in order to manipulate situations to their advantage. Placing too much trust in what the Iraqis said/did is exactly how the American intelligence apparatus got duped into thinking Iraq had huge stockpiles of WMD in the first place. One document, which could very easily have been an Iraqi snow job like so many others, does not a connection make. The fact remains, on the surface at least, Saddam Hussein and Osama bin Laden were ideologically opposed to one another.&lt;/i&gt;

Of course, there are two problems with that analysis:

1) What earthly good would it do the Iraqis to release documents showing them colluding with a group that everyone else in the civilized world despises? What exactly did they intend to manipulate people into doing?

2) Why is it that &quot;Saddam always lied&quot; is used only as an explanation when he&#039;s shown colluding with al-Qaeda, NOT when he&#039;s trying to show himself as ideologically opposed to bin Laden?

In short, what liberals want us to believe is that Saddam was telling the truth in public and lying in his private documents. That&#039;s bizarre even for &lt;i&gt;them&lt;/i&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>You can’t trust any documents that come out of Iraq. As is characteristic of any totalitarian government, the Iraqis routinely lied to others, to themselves, to everyone in order to manipulate situations to their advantage. Placing too much trust in what the Iraqis said/did is exactly how the American intelligence apparatus got duped into thinking Iraq had huge stockpiles of WMD in the first place. One document, which could very easily have been an Iraqi snow job like so many others, does not a connection make. The fact remains, on the surface at least, Saddam Hussein and Osama bin Laden were ideologically opposed to one another.</i></p>
<p>Of course, there are two problems with that analysis:</p>
<p>1) What earthly good would it do the Iraqis to release documents showing them colluding with a group that everyone else in the civilized world despises? What exactly did they intend to manipulate people into doing?</p>
<p>2) Why is it that &#8220;Saddam always lied&#8221; is used only as an explanation when he&#8217;s shown colluding with al-Qaeda, NOT when he&#8217;s trying to show himself as ideologically opposed to bin Laden?</p>
<p>In short, what liberals want us to believe is that Saddam was telling the truth in public and lying in his private documents. That&#8217;s bizarre even for <i>them</i>.</p>
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		<title>By: nuyorker</title>
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		<dc:creator>nuyorker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Mar 2006 18:06:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this story is going to get buried i fear liberals do not want to hear that W was right........go to scare america and they do not mention it the fat mans site want everyone to see vendetta (pro-terrorist) if i wan to watch a movie with terrorists in it i&#039;ll watch http://shock.military.com/Shock/videos.do?displayContent=76660</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this story is going to get buried i fear liberals do not want to hear that W was right&#8230;&#8230;..go to scare america and they do not mention it the fat mans site want everyone to see vendetta (pro-terrorist) if i wan to watch a movie with terrorists in it i&#8217;ll watch <a href="http://shock.military.com/Shock/videos.do?displayContent=76660" rel="nofollow">http://shock.military.com/Shock/videos.do?displayContent=76660</a></p>
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		<title>By: HollywoodNeoCon</title>
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		<dc:creator>HollywoodNeoCon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Mar 2006 17:37:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I completely second Matt&#039;s opinion of Sean&#039;s robot. Fantastic!</description>
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		<title>By: Michigan-Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michigan-Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Mar 2006 16:26:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RWP!  What a crack up --I love the MoonBat Rant robot.  He&#039;s better than Kevin, raj, Mr Moderate, Anonymous, Patrick and QueerPatriot all rolled into one.  Do you know if those are direct quotes from this blog?

Sean Gleeson is brilliant.  Thanks!</description>
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<p>Sean Gleeson is brilliant.  Thanks!</p>
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