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Gays Vs. Muslims – Soccer DeathMatch?

Posted by Bruce Carroll at 7:09 am - March 17, 2006.
Filed under: Gay Politics,Gays in Other Lands,War On Terror

I thought this was a satirical item when I first saw it. Alas, it is not and therefore falls into the category of “I Don’t Think This Is A Good Idea.”

Gays Vs. Muslims In The World Series Of Love – Ace of Spades

A Dutch multicultural group is organizing a soccer tournament between gays and Muslims, hoping to counter what a study published on Thursday said was a rising tide of fear among gays.

A nationwide survey by the Police Research Academy said that most gays questioned feel unsafe and reported experiencing verbal attacks in the last year.

Of the 776 homosexuals who responded to an internet questionnaire, 80 percent said they believed their safety was threatened at some time during the year, said academy director Frits Vlek, who commissioned the research.

Only 3 percent said they were physically assaulted, Vlek said in an interview, but some 40 percent claimed they had been insulted or verbally abused.

Youths from Moroccan and Turkish backgrounds often were blamed for the incidents, Vlek said, since homosexuality is not widely accepted in many Muslim cultures.

“Parts of the Muslim community still resist homosexuality and receive little education about it,” he said.

Muslim-gay tension is the theme of the soccer tournament organized by the Institute of Multicultural Development, to be held next week.

“Parts” of the Muslim community “resist” homosexuality? How about all of the Imams issuing fatwas to kill gays in every damn Middle Eastern country I can think of. That’s like saying “some” of Hollywood’s elites “dislike” President Bush.

So, if the Muslims win the game, will there be hanging parties? And if the gays win, will the burkas become more colorful?

*shaking head*

This idea must be coming from those folks that think you can hug a terrorist and not wind up on the wrong side of a vest bomb.

-Bruce (GayPatriot)



  1. What a dunderheaded idea! Weather the Muslim team wins or looses it will be reason for fanatical Muslims everywhere to bash gay people out of a sense of superiority that needs to be bolstered due to humiliation, or due to victory at games end. The monsters in Palestine who turture homosexuals and throw them off their towns tallest building, or in Iran who hang to death 19 year old gays, and others are only going to be inspired to do more of the same regardless of the soccer games outcome. In the same time gay Dutch people are really going to have be on the look out.

    Comment by Dave — March 17, 2006 @ 8:00 am - March 17, 2006

  2. Typical liberal idiocy. “If only people had more contact with people from different ethnic groups, we could build bridges of understanding, and end the hatred and violence.”

    Did it ever occur to any of these liberal saps that Jews were very well integrated into the culture of Germany in the 1930’s and non-Jewish Germans had all kinds of regular contact with Jews… and that didn’t stop them from butchering as many as they could. Ditto the Hutus and Tutsis. They had all kinds of “bridges of understanding” and it didn’t stop them from slaughtering each other just the same.

    Comment by V the K — March 17, 2006 @ 8:23 am - March 17, 2006

  3. Right on, V the K. You are absolutely correct about the Jewish situation in Germany prior to the 1933 elections. Also (and surprise, no liberals like to mention this), a sizeable number of Jews voted for the Nazi party. They felt that Hitler’s promise to eradicate “bolshevism” didn’t apply to them, since they felt German to their roots.

    And let’s not forget the short-sightedness of all other observers in the history unfolding. In fact, after Hitler was elected chancellor, the Jewish leaders of the world sent a message to Germany’s Jewish population: “Be patient and wait. This too shall pass.”

    Be patient and wait? Not “get the fuck out of there now,” but “be patient.” They felt that there were “bridges of understanding,” as you eloquently put it. Unfortunately, those bridges led to Auschwitz.

    Liberal gays never like to be reminded that Islamofascists do not want to understand them – just cut their heads off. I venture to say that a Southern Christian Conservative is more empathetic to a gay person than a Muslim would ever be. But that’s just my opinion.

    Peter Hughes

    Comment by Peter Hughes — March 17, 2006 @ 8:47 am - March 17, 2006

  4. Yes.
    But, one way to ultimately defeat Islamo-fascists is to have moderate Islamists more openly on “our” side. C’mon, guys, you can’t believe all Muslims are terrorists. Building bridges is a long, slow process. Look at where we were pre-Stonewall and where we are now. Visibility and buildng bridges were important parts of the process. If the Dutch want to try…let’s hope they remember the warning: “Trust but verify.”

    Comment by Gene — March 17, 2006 @ 9:46 am - March 17, 2006

  5. What’s wrong with a game of soccer? Why begrudge some gays and muslims having a little fun on the field? Playing a game of soccer is hardly a hugging a terrorist.

    Most muslims are not terrorists.

    I’d play a friendly game of soccer (if I were any good at it, that is), with muslims, or fundamentalist christians; and if we come out of the game liking each other better, what’s the harm in that?

    Comment by Roy — March 17, 2006 @ 10:04 am - March 17, 2006

  6. I’d rather trust in my constitutional right to bear arms than in the goodwill generated by a soccer game. Didn’t two central American countries once go to war over a soccer game?

    Comment by V the K — March 17, 2006 @ 10:29 am - March 17, 2006

  7. No VdaK, that socer war was in LA and it was the Oriental Street bOY’z CRIp GANG playing the Almighty GayLords 712 from Chicago… some caps rang out, some ho’s got busted, but the Nation was victorious.

    Btw, the latter has some cool trading cards at

    Comment by Michigan-Matt — March 17, 2006 @ 10:55 am - March 17, 2006

  8. Vera is having flashbacks to this Sylvester Stallone movie (‘Victrory’ but can’t recall if the film showed any beheadings when the gays beat the muslims and the muslims weren’t gracious losers.

    Alas, sometimes the truth is stranger than fiction.

    Vera advises you to skip that movie and jump right into this very interesting book:

    While Europe Slept : How Radical Islam is Destroying the West from Within (Hardcover)
    by Bruce Bawer

    From Publishers Weekly

    ‘Bawer relocated to Europe with his Norwegian partner in 1998 and found an even more dangerous strain of religious and cultural bigotry ensnaring Western Europe. A swarming menace called radical Islam,

    the Taliban-like theocracy Bawer sees looming inside backward immigrant populations resistant to integration flourishes under the protective wing of Western Europe’s America-bashing, multicultural, liberal establishment.


    He scoffs at talk of “understanding” or “dialogue,” indeed, at any but the most muscular response’

    Vera hasn’t finished it yet, but did find it well written and from a unique perspective.

    Comment by Vera Charles — March 17, 2006 @ 10:56 am - March 17, 2006

  9. I think somebody in Amsterdam got hold of some bad hashish.

    Comment by rightwingprof — March 17, 2006 @ 10:59 am - March 17, 2006

  10. #7 — Gang Violence? I thought the Clintons solved that problem with Midnight basketball.

    Comment by V the K — March 17, 2006 @ 11:18 am - March 17, 2006

  11. “It takes a 100,000 community policemen in the village to raise a child… and if they’re black, a hoop and some KSwiss” is the title of Hillary’s next book on gangs, soccer and winning.

    Comment by Michigan-Matt — March 17, 2006 @ 11:34 am - March 17, 2006

  12. C’mon, guys, you can’t believe all Muslims are terrorists.

    Why not? Hillary does. Chuckie Schumer does. Harry Reid does.

    Or is that only when they’re screeching to protect about how dem Muslims are a “threat to our ports”, on command from the organized crime families that provide them support?

    Comment by North Dallas Thirty — March 17, 2006 @ 1:02 pm - March 17, 2006

  13. weeeeeoooooooooo

    Comment by joe — March 17, 2006 @ 1:02 pm - March 17, 2006

  14. meow wooooooooooof knbdfljabdlgvlajg

    Comment by louis — March 17, 2006 @ 1:03 pm - March 17, 2006

  15. #12 — Nice burn.

    Comment by V the K — March 17, 2006 @ 1:19 pm - March 17, 2006

  16. Let’s assume the Muslims who join the soccer game are all moderate and friendly to gays. How does this do anything to change the opinion of the radical Muslims?

    If some radicals do play, it still won’t help. If the radical Muslims win, they will take it as just one more sign of their superiority. If they lose to a bunch of homos, they will be bitter and humiliated.

    There can’t be any doubt that something called the “Institute of Multicultural Development” is run entirely by Liberals. It’s just more of this Liberal nonsense about everyone talking to each other and joining hands and hugging to help end war, violence, prejudice, hatred, bigotry, discrimination, crime, and probably poverty and hunger too.

    Comment by Conservative Guy — March 17, 2006 @ 2:03 pm - March 17, 2006

  17. Dutch gays apparently have much more courage to face their enemies head on than do American GOP gays.

    Bruce is prejudiced, maybe even a bigot. Read his post. Note that “Muslims” are now all in a single class that only has negative attributes. They are described collectively as a “them”, not as a group of individual human beings.

    I’ll be the first to say that I think Islam is a bad religion, but I’m not judge all its adherents as the same. The Reverend Fred Phelps is a Christian. Does his theology of hate describe all Christians? Not that I’m all that fond of Christianity either, but the point is that reality is more complex.

    Besides the moral deficiencies of Bruce’s statements, there is also the stupidity factor as far as The War on Terror is concerned. If you are only looking for terrorists based on a narrow stereotype, you are going to miss the next ones that come along. Didn’t it say in one of Osama’s letters that “We don’t look like you think we do?” Bruce is only going to be looking for stereotypical Muslims and Liberals.

    Comment by Patrick (gryph) — March 17, 2006 @ 2:31 pm - March 17, 2006

  18. If you are only looking for terrorists based on a narrow stereotype, you are going to miss the next ones that come along.

    Therefore, we’ll make sure we never search Muslims at airports — just little old ladies.


    Comment by rightwingprof — March 17, 2006 @ 2:39 pm - March 17, 2006

  19. What bothers me is the whole “blame the victim” aspect of this. They’re hoping to counter “a rising tide of fear among gays” when they should be trying to counter a rising tide of intolerance from the Muslim community. Silly homos. You have nothing to fear. Just play a game of soccer with them and you’ll see. And just ignore the fellow over there who has a note pinned to his jacket…with a knife.

    Comment by Andre — March 17, 2006 @ 2:51 pm - March 17, 2006

  20. Patrick at #17 “I’ll be the first to say that I think Islam is a bad religion”.

    You know Patrick, not even in the heated weeks after 9/11 did either W or Rudy or other responsible American leaders offer that kind of bigoted, hate filled, insecure opinion about the honorable, ancient religion of Islam. In fact, they defended it. Islam is a religion of peace and mercy and rejects the killing of innocents. It has been subverted by extremists and terrorists who do not follow the true teachings of the Prophet, Jesus or Allah. I would suggest that any religion, where the focus is a surrender to God and service to others can’t be a bad religion.

    Who are you to think that your intolerance, bigotry, and hate speech should be allowed in any forum –let alone a gay conservative forum where the daily course is to graciously receive umbrage and insults from the GayLeft?

    While I think those who believe in the tenets of Islam have a public relations problem, that doesn’t make it a bad religion.

    You need to drop the ‘tude and arrogance for a moment. This isn’t about Democrats or GOPers. This isn’t about your precious DADT –please make the military love us. This is about your bigotry toward an ancient religion and you need to learn a Hell of lot more before you go spouting off your bigotry, spewing your hatred, and impugning an entire civilization in your lust to keep the world centered on Patrick. Islam is not the enemy, Patrick.

    I’d suggest you read, el pronto, Chawkat Moucarry’s “The Prophet & the Messiah” –which is an Arab Christian’s perspective on Islam and Christianity… something you need to work on before you make any more bigoted, hateful, insecure and moronic statements.

    Comment by Michigan-Matt — March 17, 2006 @ 3:12 pm - March 17, 2006

  21. Finally, Patrick… you have the balls to lecture Bruce about “moral deficiencies” in his statements? Good God man, look in the mirror fast before you’re swallowed by the black hole of self-deception.

    Comment by Michigan-Matt — March 17, 2006 @ 3:16 pm - March 17, 2006

  22. as a “them”, not as a group of individual human beings.

    Patrick, what possible meaning could the word “them” have in this context other than a group of individual human beings?

    Comment by Conservative Guy — March 17, 2006 @ 3:40 pm - March 17, 2006

  23. Walt Kelly: “We Have Met the Enemy and He Is Us”
    a poster for Earth Day, 1970 (Google).

    The enemy is radical religious fundamentalism. (Although one might argue for reactionary religious fundamentalism.)

    Comment by Gene — March 17, 2006 @ 3:50 pm - March 17, 2006

  24. Patrick, while you continue to wear that “so hip, so cool, I bash Islam” jacket, you might also want to play catch up with the rest of the world here:

    When you’re ready to add this one to your growing list of apologies, your act of contrition will be heartily welcomed –unless you really meant to be hateful, bigoted, hurtful, intolerant, insecure and insular all at once.

    Comment by Michigan-Matt — March 17, 2006 @ 4:00 pm - March 17, 2006

  25. “Dutch gays apparently have much more courage to face their enemies head on than do American GOP gays.”

    Patrick, Patrick, Patrick…my poor misguided Irish lass. Sounds like you’ve been hitting the Guinness pretty hard today to make so little sense.

    When was the last time you heard anyone in Amsterdam (or even here in the US) get even with the murderers of Pim Fortuyn? Or for that matter, even point the finger at the Islamofascists who did this horrendous deed?

    You know about him, don’t you? The GAY conservative Dutch politician who was a stone’s-throw away from the PM post? The man who would have been the first openly GAY leader of a modern nation?

    Pim’s death should have been your wake-up call to the evils in this world. But you keep hitting the Snooze button.

    Peter Hughes

    Comment by Peter Hughes — March 17, 2006 @ 5:10 pm - March 17, 2006

  26. Remember, Pim was murded by a Leftist white boy. Not a Muslim fanatic. Leftists never talk about it.

    Comment by VinceTN — March 17, 2006 @ 10:56 pm - March 17, 2006

  27. I don’t know if it is actually a new policy of the Dutch government, or merely a proposal, but in the same article where I first read about this soccer game, there was mention of a new test for prospective immigrants. It would measure their tolerance of gays and other aspects of Dutch society.

    Comment by Jack Allen — March 17, 2006 @ 11:48 pm - March 17, 2006

  28. Matt said…

    “No VdaK, that socer war was in LA and it was the Oriental Street bOY’z CRIp GANG playing the Almighty GayLords 712 from Chicago… some caps rang out, some ho’s got busted, but the Nation was victorious.”

    MATT…please email me at as soon as you can regarding the above reference, okay?


    Eric in Hollywood

    Comment by HollywoodNeoCon — March 18, 2006 @ 1:07 am - March 18, 2006

  29. 8: He scoffs at talk of “understanding” or “dialogue,” indeed, at any but the most muscular response’

    PW’s review is deeply misleading. Bawer’s book advocates the full assimilation of immigrants into European populations, much like what the US does with our immigrants. The reason Bawer scoffs at talk of “understanding” or “dialogue” in European nations is that, as he illustrates, what passes for “understanding” or “dialogue” over there is actually neither one.

    Comment by Tim Hulsey — March 18, 2006 @ 4:29 pm - March 18, 2006

  30. Patrick at #17 “I’ll be the first to say that I think Islam is a bad religion”.

    Your white bedsheet and pointy hat are back from the laundry, Kleagle.

    Comment by DaveP. — March 18, 2006 @ 8:04 pm - March 18, 2006

  31. DaveP, don’t confuse Patrick’s latent racism for his overt religious bigotry… although, I guess he was slamming muslims too… just not individual muslims –LOL, gotta love that Patrick-ism distinction.

    Comment by Michigan-Matt — March 19, 2006 @ 11:47 am - March 19, 2006

  32. Patrick isn’t too far off the mark. I don’t believe for a minute that a Christian Middle East and a Zoroastrian Persia would be the horrible sources of hate and violence that is the reality today.

    Comment by VinceTN — March 19, 2006 @ 1:36 pm - March 19, 2006

  33. You guys are the ANGRIEST of the angry. You must REALLY hate
    your sexual orientation. Why don’t you tell your buds, the RELIGIOUS
    RIGHT HATE-MONGERS that you REALLY hate yourself for who you are…
    They can make some pro-Republican fund-raising hay out of that.


    Comment by dan cobb — March 20, 2006 @ 3:52 pm - March 20, 2006

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