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	<title>Comments on: End of Red America blog at WaPo?</title>
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		<title>By: God of Biscuits</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2006/03/24/end-of-red-america-blog-at-wapo-2/comment-page-3/#comment-50182</link>
		<dc:creator>God of Biscuits</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Mar 2006 08:08:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt; military life isn’t for everyone&lt;/i&gt;

Then why is it a favorite tactic of regressives to use it against liberals?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i> military life isn’t for everyone</i></p>
<p>Then why is it a favorite tactic of regressives to use it against liberals?</p>
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		<title>By: Michigan-Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michigan-Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Mar 2006 19:53:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GoB, it was predictable for you to suggest it since you have been one dimensional since your first post... nothing more, nothing less.  Playing the chickenhawk card isn&#039;t original for the GayLeft, GoB; nor for you.

Enlistment today would be a good option for anyone who is a patriot or seeks to improve their lot in life; you see GoB, I don&#039;t buy into your anti-military, anti-American liberal bias.  But military life isn&#039;t for everyone.  I think military service is good; I think those who serve and served deserve our country&#039;s gratitude.

BTW, I see that someone has taken some of your comments and actually used them as a preface for blog post ala &quot;idiot things liberals say&quot;.  Here&#039;s your 15 minutes of fame, dude.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GoB, it was predictable for you to suggest it since you have been one dimensional since your first post&#8230; nothing more, nothing less.  Playing the chickenhawk card isn&#8217;t original for the GayLeft, GoB; nor for you.</p>
<p>Enlistment today would be a good option for anyone who is a patriot or seeks to improve their lot in life; you see GoB, I don&#8217;t buy into your anti-military, anti-American liberal bias.  But military life isn&#8217;t for everyone.  I think military service is good; I think those who serve and served deserve our country&#8217;s gratitude.</p>
<p>BTW, I see that someone has taken some of your comments and actually used them as a preface for blog post ala &#8220;idiot things liberals say&#8221;.  Here&#8217;s your 15 minutes of fame, dude.</p>
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		<title>By: V the K</title>
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		<dc:creator>V the K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Mar 2006 13:39:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#118 --- The idea that one should not cause harm to another is, in itself, a moral concept.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#118 &#8212; The idea that one should not cause harm to another is, in itself, a moral concept.</p>
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		<title>By: God of Biscuits</title>
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		<dc:creator>God of Biscuits</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Mar 2006 10:05:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michigan Matt...predictable?  Because you thought he should do the same thing?

Seriously, do you have a problem with joining the military?  I mean, they won&#039;t take YOU because you&#039;re a big homo.  They wont&#039; take me for the very same reason.

They&#039;ll take him tho.  And woudln&#039;t he gain a lot of respect?  I mean, Elvis Presley did it, and everyone at the time thought he was ruining the youth of the day with his obscene hip-wagging.

Why SHOULDN&#039;T he enlist, Matt?  Don&#039;t just attack my supposed lack of originality, answer the question.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michigan Matt&#8230;predictable?  Because you thought he should do the same thing?</p>
<p>Seriously, do you have a problem with joining the military?  I mean, they won&#8217;t take YOU because you&#8217;re a big homo.  They wont&#8217; take me for the very same reason.</p>
<p>They&#8217;ll take him tho.  And woudln&#8217;t he gain a lot of respect?  I mean, Elvis Presley did it, and everyone at the time thought he was ruining the youth of the day with his obscene hip-wagging.</p>
<p>Why SHOULDN&#8217;T he enlist, Matt?  Don&#8217;t just attack my supposed lack of originality, answer the question.</p>
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		<title>By: North Dallas Thirty</title>
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		<dc:creator>North Dallas Thirty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Mar 2006 21:32:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Now in case of rape -the consent is absent and in paedophilia consent even if present is considered invalid in law as one of the parties is a minor.&lt;/i&gt;

Sorry. Minors can give consent to have sex, inasmuch as they require no parental notification or approval to eliminate the consequences of sex, i.e. have an abortion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Now in case of rape -the consent is absent and in paedophilia consent even if present is considered invalid in law as one of the parties is a minor.</i></p>
<p>Sorry. Minors can give consent to have sex, inasmuch as they require no parental notification or approval to eliminate the consequences of sex, i.e. have an abortion.</p>
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		<title>By: Rix</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Mar 2006 20:28:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, as far as test of harm in a sexual relationship goes...consent is required from both parties. Now in case of rape -the consent is absent and in paedophilia consent even if present is considered invalid in law as one of the parties is a minor.
Legal systems, which do bar sodomy, class it under a different head i.e. which they consider &#039;mala in se,&#039; or bad in themselves, and these include all offences against the moral law; or they are &#039;mala prohibita,&#039; bad because prohibited, as being against sound policy which, unless prohibited, would be innocent or indifferent.
So its not a violation of the harm principle....and though consent is present its a &quot;moral&quot; issue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, as far as test of harm in a sexual relationship goes&#8230;consent is required from both parties. Now in case of rape -the consent is absent and in paedophilia consent even if present is considered invalid in law as one of the parties is a minor.<br />
Legal systems, which do bar sodomy, class it under a different head i.e. which they consider &#8216;mala in se,&#8217; or bad in themselves, and these include all offences against the moral law; or they are &#8216;mala prohibita,&#8217; bad because prohibited, as being against sound policy which, unless prohibited, would be innocent or indifferent.<br />
So its not a violation of the harm principle&#8230;.and though consent is present its a &#8220;moral&#8221; issue.</p>
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		<title>By: rightwingprof</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2006/03/24/end-of-red-america-blog-at-wapo-2/comment-page-3/#comment-50176</link>
		<dc:creator>rightwingprof</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Mar 2006 20:10:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;IMO, laws preventing pedophilia, polygamy, and rape are more than just “legislating morality”. Theres the harm principle..my rights end where yours begin and therefore they would be in violation of someone else’s “life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness”.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

A wholly artificial distinction, since one could easily make the case that sodomy is just as harmful as any of the above.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>IMO, laws preventing pedophilia, polygamy, and rape are more than just “legislating morality”. Theres the harm principle..my rights end where yours begin and therefore they would be in violation of someone else’s “life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness”.</p></blockquote>
<p>A wholly artificial distinction, since one could easily make the case that sodomy is just as harmful as any of the above.</p>
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		<title>By: Rix</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Mar 2006 19:59:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My 2 cents:
IMO, laws preventing pedophilia, polygamy, and rape are more than just “legislating morality&quot;. Theres the harm principle..my rights end where yours begin and therefore they would be in violation of someone else&#039;s &quot;life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My 2 cents:<br />
IMO, laws preventing pedophilia, polygamy, and rape are more than just “legislating morality&#8221;. Theres the harm principle..my rights end where yours begin and therefore they would be in violation of someone else&#8217;s &#8220;life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: V the K</title>
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		<dc:creator>V the K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Mar 2006 18:42:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Then, Alan, laws preventing pedophilia, polygamy, and rape are unconstitutional, since they abridge liberty. &lt;/i&gt;

Those laws are also prima facie cases of &quot;legislating morality.&quot; Which, we are assured, government is not allowed to do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Then, Alan, laws preventing pedophilia, polygamy, and rape are unconstitutional, since they abridge liberty. </i></p>
<p>Those laws are also prima facie cases of &#8220;legislating morality.&#8221; Which, we are assured, government is not allowed to do.</p>
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		<title>By: North Dallas Thirty</title>
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		<dc:creator>North Dallas Thirty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Mar 2006 17:40:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Then, Alan, laws preventing pedophilia, polygamy, and rape are unconstitutional, since they abridge liberty.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Then, Alan, laws preventing pedophilia, polygamy, and rape are unconstitutional, since they abridge liberty.</p>
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		<title>By: rightwingprof</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2006/03/24/end-of-red-america-blog-at-wapo-2/comment-page-3/#comment-50172</link>
		<dc:creator>rightwingprof</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Mar 2006 16:18:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;The 10th amendment reserves the sodomy decision “to the people” not to the state.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

You don&#039;t understand what &quot;respectively&quot; means, I see. And &quot;to the people&quot; refers to the legislature, not the courts. The courts are not a representative body of the government.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The 10th amendment reserves the sodomy decision “to the people” not to the state.</p></blockquote>
<p>You don&#8217;t understand what &#8220;respectively&#8221; means, I see. And &#8220;to the people&#8221; refers to the legislature, not the courts. The courts are not a representative body of the government.</p>
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		<title>By: V the K</title>
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		<dc:creator>V the K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Mar 2006 10:16:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Um, Al, &quot;life liberty and the pursuit of happiness&quot; are in the Declaration of Independence, not the Constitution.

I hope you are not teaching &lt;i&gt;anything&lt;/i&gt;, Perfesser.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Um, Al, &#8220;life liberty and the pursuit of happiness&#8221; are in the Declaration of Independence, not the Constitution.</p>
<p>I hope you are not teaching <i>anything</i>, Perfesser.</p>
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		<title>By: Alan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Mar 2006 01:40:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;the Constitution does not grant the Federal Government the power to legalize sodomy&quot;

Hey Professor, life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness, are inalienable rights.

The 10th amendment reserves the sodomy decision &quot;to the people&quot;
not to the state.

Because the 14th amendment comes after, it amends both the 9th and 10th amendments and reaffirms that both liberty and equality belong to each citizen.

I hope you are not teaching Con Law, Professor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;the Constitution does not grant the Federal Government the power to legalize sodomy&#8221;</p>
<p>Hey Professor, life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness, are inalienable rights.</p>
<p>The 10th amendment reserves the sodomy decision &#8220;to the people&#8221;<br />
not to the state.</p>
<p>Because the 14th amendment comes after, it amends both the 9th and 10th amendments and reaffirms that both liberty and equality belong to each citizen.</p>
<p>I hope you are not teaching Con Law, Professor.</p>
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		<title>By: rightwingprof</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2006/03/24/end-of-red-america-blog-at-wapo-2/comment-page-3/#comment-50169</link>
		<dc:creator>rightwingprof</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Mar 2006 22:36:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;A simple yes or no question&lt;/blockquote&gt;

There is no question, just an idiotic statement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>A simple yes or no question</p></blockquote>
<p>There is no question, just an idiotic statement.</p>
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		<title>By: Ian</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2006/03/24/end-of-red-america-blog-at-wapo-2/comment-page-3/#comment-50168</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Mar 2006 20:36:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#110 A simple yes or no question and still no answer, just angry ad hominem insults. Time for your meds maybe?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#110 A simple yes or no question and still no answer, just angry ad hominem insults. Time for your meds maybe?</p>
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		<title>By: rightwingprof</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2006/03/24/end-of-red-america-blog-at-wapo-2/comment-page-3/#comment-50167</link>
		<dc:creator>rightwingprof</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Mar 2006 20:24:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I notice you didn’t answer my question.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Oh, but I did. It&#039;s not my problem that you&#039;re too stupid to figure it out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I notice you didn’t answer my question.</p></blockquote>
<p>Oh, but I did. It&#8217;s not my problem that you&#8217;re too stupid to figure it out.</p>
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		<title>By: Ian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Mar 2006 20:06:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#108: &quot;Look up Federalism, then get back to me, bed-wetter.&quot;

Projecting, no doubt. I notice you didn&#039;t answer my question.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#108: &#8220;Look up Federalism, then get back to me, bed-wetter.&#8221;</p>
<p>Projecting, no doubt. I notice you didn&#8217;t answer my question.</p>
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		<title>By: rightwingprof</title>
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		<dc:creator>rightwingprof</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Mar 2006 15:46:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;So is it your position that individuals ONLY have those rights specifically mentioned in the Constitution?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Look up Federalism, then get back to me, bed-wetter.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Because sodomy laws violated the equal protection clause of the 14th Amendment, they were unconstitutional.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Utter crap, unless you apply the same logic to laws against child abuse, bestiality, incest, etc. The Tenth Amendment grants the States the power to regulate behavior, and that includes sodomy laws. If you don&#039;t like the laws, you can either try to get them changed through the state legislature or move to another state. Or if you want to live in a European style democracy with an all-powerful Federal government, you&#039;re welcome to move to Europe. Just stay inside. I hear the Muslims are beating up fags.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>So is it your position that individuals ONLY have those rights specifically mentioned in the Constitution?</p></blockquote>
<p>Look up Federalism, then get back to me, bed-wetter.</p>
<blockquote><p>Because sodomy laws violated the equal protection clause of the 14th Amendment, they were unconstitutional.</p></blockquote>
<p>Utter crap, unless you apply the same logic to laws against child abuse, bestiality, incest, etc. The Tenth Amendment grants the States the power to regulate behavior, and that includes sodomy laws. If you don&#8217;t like the laws, you can either try to get them changed through the state legislature or move to another state. Or if you want to live in a European style democracy with an all-powerful Federal government, you&#8217;re welcome to move to Europe. Just stay inside. I hear the Muslims are beating up fags.</p>
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		<title>By: rightwingprof</title>
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		<dc:creator>rightwingprof</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Mar 2006 15:39:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Check your 9th amendment, RWP and NDT&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Yes, let&#039;s:

&lt;blockquote&gt;Amendment IX:
The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Nothing in the amendment gives the SCOTUS the power to create law there. But let&#039;s look at the next one:


Amendment X:
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

Since the Constitution does not grant the Federal government the power to legalize sodomy, that power is &lt;b&gt;reserved to the States&lt;/b&gt;. IOW, however desirable the ruling might have been, Scalia and Thomas were correct, and the balance of the SCOTUS exceeded their authority.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Check your 9th amendment, RWP and NDT</p></blockquote>
<p>Yes, let&#8217;s:</p>
<blockquote><p>Amendment IX:<br />
The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.</p></blockquote>
<p>Nothing in the amendment gives the SCOTUS the power to create law there. But let&#8217;s look at the next one:</p>
<p>Amendment X:<br />
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.</p>
<p>Since the Constitution does not grant the Federal government the power to legalize sodomy, that power is <b>reserved to the States</b>. IOW, however desirable the ruling might have been, Scalia and Thomas were correct, and the balance of the SCOTUS exceeded their authority.</p>
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		<title>By: Michigan-Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michigan-Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Mar 2006 14:01:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GoB at #104, almost as predictable as the &quot;conservative gays are self-loathing&quot; or &quot;GOP gays are Nazis&quot;... the chickenhawk card played by an anti-military, anti-Bush, Blame-America-First liberal isn&#039;t ever going to be seen as leading with a strong suit, playing your best card, or even being in the game.  You need to stick to the rallies against the Wolrd Bank, urban sprawl, and free-condom-Tuesdays at City Hall.  Those work better for you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GoB at #104, almost as predictable as the &#8220;conservative gays are self-loathing&#8221; or &#8220;GOP gays are Nazis&#8221;&#8230; the chickenhawk card played by an anti-military, anti-Bush, Blame-America-First liberal isn&#8217;t ever going to be seen as leading with a strong suit, playing your best card, or even being in the game.  You need to stick to the rallies against the Wolrd Bank, urban sprawl, and free-condom-Tuesdays at City Hall.  Those work better for you.</p>
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