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American Media — The Enemies Within?

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A thought-provoking post over at BlackFive: The Message I Understand, The Oath I Swore

A lot of what has happened the last 4 or 5 years has been frustrating to me. I was commissioned a month before Ronald Reagan was inaugurated. I lived with radical Islam poking my country in the ankle with a stick my entire adult life. I have seen how there are many (not a few, despite what W, Abu Sinan, liberals and the press say) Muslims who wish us harm. Period, no ifs, ands, or buts. I see our press treat them as special cases, deserving special treatment as if they have been oppressed by America in the way Blacks were oppressed before the Civil War (or as my great aunt used to say, the War of Northern Aggression). I see the press using their unchecked powers to propagandize against anyone who supports war, whether it is for a noble cause, self defense, or even in the name of prevention of genocide. They have turned logic on its head.

Their actions, whether they mean them to or not, damage the credibility of the United States, drain the will of the American people to fight for their own survival, and hinder, obfuscate, and occlude the clear vision required to see the Enemy for who and what he is.

I agree. Our un-elected, un-accountable Large Media has become the enemy in the War on Terror. They want us to lose. You can’t come to any other conclusion. If they wanted us to win, the ratio of good stories to bad out of Iraq would be tipped the other way. They are gatekeepers — they control what you read and see on TV. Our own American Media play right into al-Qaeda’s hands with their propoganda war against the President.

I swore an oath and reaffirmed it several times over my life. “I will uphold and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign AND domestic” rings in my head every time I see lies in print. Lies I know to be untrue. And lies I just believe to be untrue. I know how to defend against foreign enemies. We do so with technology, force of arms, and the willpower, training, and professionalism of the United States Armed Forces. Until now, I knew not how to defend the Constitution against domestic enemies because I had always been told it was forbidden for me to use those tools inside America. Only law enforcement agencies have that right. So what good is my oath?

There are surely domestic enemies amongst us. They are found wherever you find words that America is evil. America is wrong. America is out for “oil, power and land”. And their tools are the MSM, the politics of inverted logic and spin, and the determined will to see their power increased despite the fact that America will be defeated because of them. Until now, I had no way to fight them.

At the very least, the President should be able to wiretap the phones of known terrorists, right? Not according to our Large Media.

We can rest when we’re dead. Evil doesn’t take a holiday. And you can’t push a rope — it has to be pulled behind those who lead.

I will not rest.

-Bruce (GayPatriot)

Comments

  1. The MSM is run by increasingly senile baby-boomers whose greatest triumph was the American defeat in Vietnam. This “victory” on the part of the left led to the genocide of three million or more and an emboldened communist movement that subjected millions more to misery and oppression.

    Naturally, nothing would make the boomers feel more relevent, and feel like they were re-living the glory days of the sixties, than to bring America defeat again. And if the result of American defeat is genocide in Iraq and an expansion of global terrorism… been there done that.

  2. Bruce, another GREAT post! VdaK nails it again in his link of the babyboomers, VN debacle, and ensuing bloodshed brought to us by the likes of Jane Fonda, the Hollywood Left, and the liberal MSM.

    I’m ever grateful America rebuked the poster boi of anti-war, VN era nonsense: John Kerry. What utter nonsense from the Left and the party of Just Do No coughs up these days.

  4. Wow. I guess we’re in the “shoot the messenger” phase. Like those commie bastard reporters who showed us what was really going on in Vietnam, right?

    Great entertainment, in any case. Keep up the great work!

  7. Or at least held accountable for more than 30 seconds while the media feeding frenzy looks to other fresh meat… why is it that the Left always –ALWAYS– seeks to dismiss any accountability for the MSM on accurate or fair reporting by playing the “censorship” “red scare” “McCarthy” “1st A” card? I call it the weathercasters’ syndrome– put it out there for today, appear to know what’s happening five days from now, use psuedo-science to validate, fill in what you don’t know with fluff, then move on and hope no one checks the accuracy of your weathercast… the Left and their allies get away with undercutting American resolve and few hold them accountable.

    It’s not a question of muzzling the Left and their allies –it’s just a point of holding them accountable for their wild-assed statements, spin, deliberate attempt to mislead, and pathologically partisan dysinformation. For them, it’s either play the “censorship boogeyman” card for defense when accountability is demanded or it’s a defense like “press: it bleeds, it leads” long standing practice. Rubbish from the Left.

  9. “If they wanted us to win, the ratio of good stories to bad out of Iraq would be tipped the other way.”

    I’d settle for the truth. Wouldn’t you?

    “the President should be able to wiretap the phones of known terrorists, right? Not according to our Large Media.”

    Really? I’ve never seen nor heard anyone anywhere in the SCLM claim that the government should not be able to wiretap the phones of known terrorists. Perhaps you could provide a link to such a statement.

  10. As if I wasn’t laughing enough this morning in the aftermath of the Cubs’ sweep of the Cardinals,

    Ian gives me this little gem…

    “Iā€™d settle for [my version of] the truth. Wouldnā€™t you?”

    Oh LORD, that’s funny!!!!!

    Eric in Hollywood

  12. #11: Yes, don’t bother sending me any links to anything showing someone asking that the government get warrants for its wiretapping of Americans because that’s not what Bruce claimed. He claimed the following

    “the President should be able to wiretap the phones of known terrorists, right? Not according to our Large Media.ā€

    That’s a pretty astounding claim and as I stated, I’ve not seen anything put out by the “Large Media” to substantiate it. I myself ABSOLUTELY want the President to be able “to wiretap the phones of known terrorists” and I know of no one who has argued otherwise. Current law permits the government to wiretap known terrorists and I know of no requests by the “Large Media” that this law be changed to prevent the government from wiretapping such people.

  14. Shooting people ourselves is overrated as a concept.

    I would prefer to give them an all-expenses-paid one-way trip to live under the groups they so readily champion.

    Think of what could have been done in the Vietnam War if Hanoi Jane, Hanoi John Kerry, and their media allies had to actually live under the Viet Cong.

  16. NDXXX posits “Think of what could have been done in the Vietnam War if Hanoi Jane, Hanoi John Kerry, and their media allies had to actually live under the Viet Cong.”

    Umm, would it be door #1: we could all have been spared listening to Teresa Heinz Kerry pontificate about the poor-put-upon and misunderstood French as we collectively drift dreamly backward to a time of Jackie K, Camelot, perfect dresses, and presidential yachts?

    or is it door #2: no one would have had to watch Jane Fonda in China Syndrome, California Suite, Electric Horseman, 9-to-5, On Golden Swamp or Stanley & Iris? (I think the only bombs she missed were Ishtar and Meatballs III).

    or is it door #3: Walter Cronkite and Dan Rather would still be doing the Ho Chi Minh Trail weather report from a post near the Laos border for VietCong Republic Radio?

    I’m not sure any of those three are bad choices, NDXXX. I’d pull for Door #3 option, personally.

  17. Because Iā€™m sure NDT and all you guys know the ā€˜realā€™ truth (aka Fox News).

    Hence my point in #14, Dan.

    If they want to tell us the “real truth”, they can go there and do it.

    But they won’t, because people who told the “real truth” under Saddam Hussein disappeared into torture chambers, often with their children either leading or following close behind.

    That doesn’t fit their required image of Iraq as a kite-flying paradise.

  18. Dan “Because Iā€™m sure NDT and all you guys know the ā€˜realā€™ truth”.

    THIS from a guy who thinks a geriatric Pat Robertson is a greater danger to America than Saddam Hussein ever was?????

    Really, now. Truth has a hard time finding you, eh Dan?

  20. So many quotes, so little time.

    Vera leaves it up to you to choose your favoriteā€¦

    (courtesy of –

    http://www.mediaresearch.org/notablequotables/bestof/2005/welcome.asp

    “Brian Williams: “Andrea, what would it all matter if proven true? Someone brought up today the first several U.S. Presidents were certainly revolutionaries and might have been called terrorists at the time by the British Crown, after all.”
    Mitchell: “Indeed, Brian.”
    ā€” NBC Nightly News, June 30, 2005

    “The day I say Dick Cheney is going to run for President, Iā€™ll kill myself. All we need is one more liar.”
    ā€” Hearst White House columnist Helen Thomas, as quoted in the “Under the Dome” column by Albert Eisele and Jeff Dufour in The Hill newspaper, July 28, 2005

    ABC reporter Brian Ross to CBS producer Mary Mapes: “Do you still think that story was true?”
    Ex-CBS producer Mary Mapes: “The story? Absolutely.”
    Ross: “This seems remarkable to me that you would sit here now and say you still find that story to be up to your standards.”
    Mapes: “Iā€™m perfectly willing to believe those documents are forgeries if thereā€™s proof that I havenā€™t seen.”
    Ross: “But isnā€™t it the other way around? Donā€™t you have to prove theyā€™re authentic?”
    Mapes: “Well, I think thatā€™s what critics of the story would say. I know more now than I did then and I think, I think they have not been proved to be false, yet.”
    Ross: “Have they proved to be authentic though? Isnā€™t that really what journalists do?”
    Mapes: “No, I donā€™t think thatā€™s the standard.”
    ā€” ABCā€™s Good Morning America, November 9. 2005

    “CBS News has a culture, has a history that for those of us who work here, is very real ā€” that we see it as a sort of magical mystical kingdom of journalistic knights ā€” and I know I can mentally hear people rolling their eyes, thatā€™s the way we feel.”
    ā€” Ex-CBS News anchor Dan Rather on CNBCā€™s Topic [A] with Tina Brown, May 22. 2005

    ā€œThey concluded that whatever happened, whatever you thought about it, it was not motivated by political bias, and they said that, although they had four months and millions of dollars, they could not demonstrate that the documents were not authentic, that they were forgeries. They said they couldnā€™t make that conclusion….Whatever one thinks of what we did or didnā€™t do with the story in question here, nobody broke the law, nobody lied.
    ā€” Outgoing CBS Evening News anchor Dan Rather discussing the investigation into his forged memo story, on CBSā€™s Late Show with David Letterman, March 3. 2005

    Rosie Oā€™Donnell: “This President invaded a sovereign nation in defiance of the UN. He is basically a war criminal. Honestly. He should be tried at The Hague. This man lied to the American public about the reasons for invading a nation that had nothing to do with 9/11.”

    Wolf Blitzer: “But this is one of the most despotic regimes and Kim Jong-Il is one of the worst men on Earth. Isnā€™t that a fair assessment?”
    Turner: “Well, I didnā€™t get to meet him, but he didnā€™t look ā€” in the pictures that Iā€™ve seen of him on CNN, he didnā€™t look too much different than most other people.”
    Blitzer: “But, look at the way, look at the way heā€™s, look at the way heā€™s treating his own people.”
    Turner: “Well, hey, listen. I saw a lot of people over there. They were thin and they were riding bicycles instead of driving in cars, butā€“”
    Blitzer: “A lot of those people are starving.”
    Turner: “I didnā€™t see any, I didnā€™t see any brutality….”
    ā€” Exchange on CNNā€™s The Situation Room, Sept. 19.

  22. I think VtheK has it right with regards to Vietnam. I dont even know that its so much that the media wants us to lose, as they just want to have another Vietnam to cover. Failure and quagmires just seem to be far more fun to the media than good news. I also think that while they are hooked on Vietnam part II, they also want really bad to see the administration fail.

  23. I think it is a need to feel intellectual. Most Leftists have fairly bigoted opionions of many of their fellow Americans and are always ready to preach a huge list of this nation’s failings. Going against the grain implies an ability to see farther and deeper than others. They use up so much energy being superior that they can never really join in with the rest of us for any length of time, even if it would give their usual attitudes some understanding.

    America is guilty until proven innocent each day. Until the Left can respect their fellow citizen’s values and judgments, they are just going to get uglier and more accepting of uncivilized behavior to get their point across.

  24. If the messenger is a traitor who is helping the enemy, damn right he should be shot.

    I volunteer myself and my Remington 700 ADL for the firing squad.

    And for your amusement, the most idiotic moonbat quotation of the day, from Daily Kos:

    “This year, Republicans can’t win on the issues.”

  25. I think the MSM needs to adopt a new annual award… name it after Pierre Sallinger in honor of his last ranting moonbat allegation that TWA Flight #800 was shot down by heat seeking missles fired by US Naval personnel to pre-test the terrorist capacity to kill a planeload of people (as first reported by an Iranian terrorist Parveez Sayad and then picked up with false documents by Pierre –JFK’s Press Secy).

    We could give the Pierre Sallinger Award to Sy Hersch for his latest investigative report that US troops are on the ground in Iran painting targets for laser guided bombs while the Pentagon puts pencil plans into ink for an imminent invasion.

    Good God, what a shallow pool “journalistic integrity” has become when Dan Rather gets out and Katie Couric is the great white hope for revitalizing MSM news.

  27. Ian (#9, #12) — That is precisely what the “NSA spying” kerfuffle is all about. The MSM has portrayed it they way they want to (spying on Americans) not what the program actually is (spying on suspected terrorists WITHIN the USA).

    Where have you been lately? Under a rock?

  28. It’s not even suspected terrorists within the USA though, is it? It’s suspected terrorists overseas calling to numbers within the USA. The person who picks up the phone in the US may not be a suspect at all until after the call.

    Listening to the media (and those politicians who smell an oportunity) a person would think that Bush was claiming the right to listen to domestic phone calls without warrants, rather than to both sides of a phone call that everyone agrees doesn’t require a warrant at the point of origination.

  29. Synova, that’s what the WH would like us to believe.

    But the truth lies with those champions of lawsuit: the ACLU… they say that ATT and other phone companies have turned over vast data files to the NSA for data mining on US citizens… and, of course, at least two of those citizens will be proven NOT to have been even remotely involved in terrorism but just communicating with their freedom-loving, Allah praying sons who happen to be in Iran or Syria or Yemen working on muslim self esteem projects. Caught in the web of nefarious, illegal, warrantless data mining by the NSA, the EFF’ing ACLU will parade these two citizens and their pathetic, tragic story of data-rape before the press for Fresh Meat Friday feasting.

  31. #12 – “Current law permits the government to wiretap known terrorists and I know of no requests by the ā€œLarge Mediaā€ that this law be changed to prevent the government from wiretapping such people.”

    Indeed. Yes indeed. That’s why no Senate Democrat to my knowledge has called for the NSA terrorist surveillance program to end. A lot of insinuations, dark conspiracy hints, and crazy noises about impeachment and Watergate Redux and hearings and whatnot; but no actual moves to changing to ending the surveillance.

    So much for them. They don’t even have the courage of their own crazy talk / conspiracy theories. Contemptible.

  37. #34: Yes, I’m still here but I have to be very careful. There is a new rule which appears to apply only to me and requires that I only comment if directly responding to points in a post or in response to one of the bloggers. You can call it the “Ian Rule” or IR for short. So in order to respond to your comment I would say that at first I was excited to imagine that it was a link to a “Large Media” statement proving that Bruce was correct in his posting statement that ā€œthe President should be able to wiretap the phones of known terrorists, right? Not according to our Large Media.ā€ (PLEASE NOTE CLEAR REFERENCE TO BLOGGER POST)

    Alas, I was crushed to learn that your link was to a Hitchens article. BTW, did you know Chris just loves Macallan 18-year scotch? I hear it’s pretty good. Me, I’m more of a beer kind of guy. But I digress. Here’s a question Hitch doesn’t answer but perhaps someone here can. Why on earth would Iraq bother to try to buy uranium from Africa – a very risky proposition in terms of being found out? After all he ALREADY had 500 tons of uranium some of it partially enriched in storage in Iraq according to Newsmax! http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2005/11/2/220331.shtml

    He already had enough to make nuclear weapons and some more yellowcake (a crude, barely refined ore) wasn’t going to make a significant difference especially since the alleged attempt to purchase the stuff from Africa was AFTER the UN weapons inspectors were gone and Saddam would have been free to use all that was already in his possession. No, it just doesn’t make sense unless, that is, you consider WHO in the 2002 timeframe would most benefit from information made public suggesting that Iraq was trying to buy uranium in Africa. Who at the time was most interested in building a case for attacking Iraq? Gee, I wonder.

  38. Ian said…

    “You can call it the ā€œIan Ruleā€ or IR for short.”

    Don’t flatter yourself, dimwit.

    You’re a craven liar, and everyone here knows it.

    I would normally react negatively to such arrogance, but considering you buy into a worldview that seems to think all of your dissidents are abject morons, I’m hardly surprised by the complete assholery demonstrated yet again by a textbook moonbat.

    Ian, you’re a pawn. Either slither back into the hole from whence you came, or begin to realize that your entire self-worth is based upon lies.

    In either case, for you to cite an “Ian’s Law” only further demonstrates how completely empty your arrogance is.

    Jesus, is it me, or this guy more conceited than a sewer rat with a taste for Broadway quim?

    Oy.

    Eric in Hollywood

  39. Just finished re-reading the rest of Ian’s spew…

    Here’s my synopsis:

    BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH. BUSH LIED.

    In other words, gentle readers: complete spew, distortion, and utter fantasy.

    “Turdish,” if there is such a word. If not, then I hereby proclaim it in the name of that which my St. Bernard produces on a daily basis.

    To paraphrase Kevin Kline in “A Fish Called Wanda:”

    …”ass-HOLE!!!!!!!”

    Eric in Hollywood

  40. #39: Hey Eric: I guess you didn’t notice that the one post where I DON”T mention Bush’s name is the one where you quote me as saying “BUSH LIED.”

    So, my friend, YOU LIED.

    As for the poster’s comment: ā€œthe President should be able to wiretap the phones of known terrorists, right? Not according to our Large Mediaā€, no one has come forward with an example of the “Large Media” doing that so can I assume that that comment was also a lie?

  41. Back on topic and skipping over the last troll, living in Michigan gives me the opportunity to watch Canadian coverage (via CBC) of the WOT and the Iraq war.

    Canadian media is a tad more liberal than the American MSM and equally controlled by the Left in that country. But their coverage is markedly different from American MSM.

    For instance, this morning CBC-TV led with a piece highlighting the Canadian troops humanitarian efforts in Iraq and Afghanistan by showing a mobile combat troop unit –heavily armed– handing out water bottles to little Iraqi kids, standing around kicking a new soccer ball and leaving a dozen behind for the kids, and talking with Iraqi citizens.

    The attitude of the newsreader lacked the sneering dismissal tone one often hears from American journalists, the report still underscored the dangerous nature of the mission, but also pointed out the immense good will created by the Canadian combat troops interacting with Iraqis while on patrol. The piece ended with a shot of dawn at the Canadian base and troops raising the flag.

    What a stark and dramatic contrast to the anti-troop, anti-WOT, MSM’s coverage of our own troops here in the US. And do we ever see American journalists covering Brit troops? Canadian troops? Other military? Irrespective of the dangers of the Sunni triangle –our MSM is failing America in not telling an accurate story in Iraq or the success in closing down financial ops of al Qaeda, bin Laden, and the intern’l community’s support of American intelligence efforts since 9/11.

    Bruce, you’re dead on. I hope you DON’T rest.

  42. #41: “the report still underscored the dangerous nature of the mission, but also pointed out the immense good will created by the Canadian combat troops interacting with Iraqis while on patrol.”

    Those “Canadian combat troops” must have been imposters; AFAIK there are no Canadian combat troops in Iraq. Canada refused to join the US led invasion because she believed it was not legitimate under International Law. You, like Ann Coulter, need to learn more about Canada before shooting your mouth off.

  43. # 4 Dan wrote:

    “Wow. I guess weā€™re in the ā€œshoot the messengerā€ phase. Like those commie bastard reporters who showed us what was really going on in Vietnam, right?

    Except they didn’t report what was really going on in Vietnam. We won the Tet Offensive, according not only to our millitary standards, but also to General Giap, the commander of the Vietcong army. He was on the verge of surrender, but after he saw the way the press portrayed it as an American loss, the General knew all he had to do was hang in long enough for the US public to tire of the war and demand our retreat. Cronkite: “That’s the way it is”… My Ass!!!

    Meanwhile, the press never covered the horrible massacres inflicted on the Vietnamese people by the Vietcong during the war. I have seen estimates that we had killed about 50,000 civilians during the conflict, much of that via indiscriminate bombings by the US air force. This is indeed horrible and unfortunate, as all casualties of war are. The tally from the Vietcong during that same period, ? Over 400,000!!! The Vietcong indiscriminately killed hundred of thousands of “their own people”(Google Hue in 1968 for an example), yet our soldiers were labeled by liberals and the press as the “Baby-Killers”. This starting to sound familiar??? The MSP has no problem reporting our mistakes and misteps in Iraq, and I have no problem with them doing so. But they constantly ignore or downplay the murderous ways and methodologies of the people we and the Iraqi Army are fighting against. And when they do cover it, the subtext insinuates it’s our fault they behave and murder as they do.

    Here is more on Vietnam.

  44. Ian said…

    “You, like Ann Coulter, need to learn more about Canada before shooting your mouth off.”

    And you, like Al Franken, need to learn more about Jesus.

    Jesus, you see, loves you.

    Everyone else thinks you’re an asshole.

    Eric in Hollywood

  45. Sorry….I have never disliked an administration and PRESIDENT like I do this one! How many times to you have to be brianwashed into their lies? It’s true, when people start saying that we have come as close to Nazisim as we have ever had. We are under the rule of a group of people who ARE NEVER WRONG! I guess so, if you can keep believing in a war that was started over ‘something that was never found’

    What hurts the most…is that our men and women, willing to fight for what they were lead to believe was ‘a truth..that weapons of mass destruction’ was there..and Sadim Insane was OUR MOST HORRIBLE PROBLEM.

    This President was NOT looking for the REAL TERRORIST who attacked our country. HE was just a second thought!
    BUSH/CHENEY had their war! What a perfect thing to put us into more horror and our men and women loosing their lives for….(let’s see..what was that…Oh Yes!…this..SLAM DUNK WAR)

    If you can still believe that you are being TOLD THE TRUTH
    by the most horrible leaders this country has EVER SEEN,
    then KEEP YOUR BLINDERS ON…REPORT YOUR FELLOW NEIGHBORS WHO DON’T AGREE WITH THESE GOD-LIKE
    KILLER-CHARGED GIANTS….(wasn’t that what the Germans had to deal with…KIDS turning in their own parents, because they didn’t believe in HITLER?) Are WE now reaching that same type of fear?

    NOOOO…BECAUSE GEORGE W. BUSH thinks HE has recieved the message from…GOD..himself…that HE (THE BUSH) has been choosen BY GOD….to take over the world
    THAT WAY…BUSH/CHENEY team can use RELIGION to forge through…and KILL…and DESTROY…AND TAKE OVER A COUNTRY THAT HAS BEEN FIGHTING AND DISAGREEING FOR LONGER THAN MOST OF US HAVE LIVED ON THIS EARTH.

    So…to all of you who think THE WORLD of this entire ADMINISTRATION and it’s TWO..BLESSED BY GOD..TO BECOME GOD’S…then you have just been lead to the slaughter….You are HIS sheep..and you will look in utter shock as you see our nation crumble.

    UNLESS….someone comes to their senses. Afterall, THE BUSH has already stated that it will not be HIM who will have to bring this to an end…HE will be leaving his BLOODY MESS for someone…after him…to clean up.
    WHATTA…..man!

  46. #44: Poor Eric: gets called on a lie and goes hysterical! Oh and here’s another priceless quote from GP’s post: “They want us to lose”. Who is “they?” Would “they” include your old hero Newt Gingrich who just announced:

    ā€It was an enormous mistake for us to try to occupy [Iraq] after June of 2003, ā€¦We have to pull back, and we have to recognize it.ā€

    http://tinyurl.com/k9hc2

    Goodness, Sullivan, George Will, Fukuyama, William F Buckley, and now Newtie, all like rats jumping off the sinking ship that is Bushco’s war in Iraq. We were right, you were wrong and we want an abject apology for the destruction and misery you’ve caused in the name of this great country.

  49. All this, and neither GP nor any of his cheerleaders can point to a sliver of evidence that “Large Media” wants to put a stop to wiretaps of known terrorists. GP uncritically repeats the meme, never stopping to wonder if it’s a good idea for a President to break the law at will.

  50. On point, yes Dorothy, there ARE Canadian troops in Iraq and Afghanistan and they’ve been secretly in Iraq since the invasion –despite the former Martin Administration’s assertions to the contrary. I figured, given the BlameAmerica1st ‘tude of some here, they’d appreciate a citation from PRAVDA –the old Soviet Union organ of dysinformation. It seems fitting for the American Left.

    http://english.pravda.ru/news/world/25-03-2006/77846-hostage-0

    If PRAVDA is too quaint for the American Lefties here, try this

    http://www.thestate.com/mld/thestate/news/world/14179932.htm

    where the current PM explains there have been troops on the ground since the invasion of Iraq.

    Canadian troops were even involved in Operation Iraqi Freedom BEFORE the invasion. See here: http://newstandardnews.net/content/index.cfm/items/128

    Canadians troops, both “retired” and reservists, are –as in “YES, THEY ARE DEARIE”– on the ground in Iraq helping with security in Canadian-led humanitarian efforts, security for Iraqi administrative personnel, and limited intelligence ops to support the Coalition forces. Additionally, there are some 300 troops in Iraq helping to support the NATO contingent in-country engaged in reconstruction defense teams. Finally, former PM Martin (the liberal who lost to the CONSERVATIVE Harper) in 2003, changed Canadian Military rules to allow enlisted service personnel to temporarily “retire” from their enlistment while serving in other capacities in Iraq or Afghanistan. They have to prove to their unit commanders that they’re in service in Iraq or Afghanistan while the enlistment is held for them.

    The CBC report featured the Canadian troops involved in humanitarian defense support efforts –as I noted earlier.

    Lastly, while Canada has yet to open her embassy in Iraq, she is using her Jordanian Embassy as a representative for Iraq diplomatic operations. Guess what? There are 37 military attaches in that embassy working daily in Iraq. Hmmm, but there are still no Canadian troops in Iraq, eh?

    Sorry to burst some bubbles of the American Lefites who love to shoot blanks in the comments section… “but thems b da facts”.

    I’ll wait for an apology from my former debating partner Ian-of-the-Left.

    Ian? Paging Ian for some crow… Ian?

  51. BTW, for those American Lefties who shoot blanks in the comment section, remember the Canadian peakcenik hostages that were recently rescued with the help of British AND CANADIAN troops in Iraq?

    Guess what, a couple of the rescued Canadian peaceniks posed for a picture in the Baghdad-based Canadian Embassy slated to open this year… you can see a pic of Christian Peacekeeper Team wacko James Loney in that location here… check out the condition of the embassy in the background. There are 41 Canadian combat troops protecting the embassy. No troops on the ground, eh?

    http://www.cpt.org/gallery/view_photo.php?set_albumName=album163&id=James_Loney_and_Harmeet_Sooden

    Ian, get an apology prepped… not a rebuttal. An apology, Ian.

  52. Ian at #42 “Those ā€œCanadian combat troopsā€ must have been imposters; AFAIK there are no Canadian combat troops in Iraq. You, like Ann Coulter, need to learn more about Canada before shooting your mouth off.”

    Ouch, eat the crow and try avoiding to choke on the bones, Ian.

  53. #50 — Actually, Meathead, the point is that the Democrats are being disingenuous precisely because they both 1.) claim the wiretaps are illegal and 2.) won’t do anything to stop them. The thesis GP is proving is that the Democrats and the media left are playing politics and undermining national security in the process. But that concept is probably a little too advanced for you. When you’ve mastered colors and shapes, check back in with us.