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  3. Funny, my housemate, also Catholic, almost retches when he sees me snack on gefilte fish…with horseradish of course. Then again, when in a restaurant for breakfast, watching him eat sausage does not sit well with my digestive track which is set on kosher for most things so turnabout is fair play I guess..lol.

  6. raj, the consummate bitch artist said…

    “However, some of us are familiar with the (earlier) scapegoat ritual and how that relates to the crucifiction and resurrection myth.”

    It’s unabashed idiots like you who make God’s love of man all the more mind-boggling.

    As for the rest of us sinners, we all know you’re just a miserable prick.

  7. #6 HollywoodNeoCon — April 17, 2006 @ 11:36 am – April 17, 2006

    I take this as an admission that you have no idea what the scapegoat ritual refers to. Or how it relates to the “Jesus died for your sins” clap-trap.

  8. #6 HollywoodNeoCon — April 17, 2006 @ 11:36 am – April 17, 2006

    It’s unabashed idiots like you …

    Oh, and, lest it has passed your notice, I tend to ignore taunts. I learned to do that about a decade ago when I used to post on the ridiculous abomination–Rush Lamebrain’s favorite web site–FreeRepublic.com.

    I’ll do the /sarcasm here.

  9. raj, don’t flatter yourself, sweetie…

    You couldn’t ignore anyone, so great is your need for attention. If this weren’t the case, you wouldn’t feel the need to try polluting a “Happy Easter / Passover” thread.

    Oy, what a miserable wretch you are!

  10. It’s amazing how the atheists like Raj always are the biggest proselytizers, isn’t it?

    One would think they didn’t really believe what they were saying and were looking desperately for other people to validate their beliefs.

    To my mind, believing in God is absolutely logical; otherwise, one must consider mankind, who knows and controls barely a fraction of the universe, to be the highest of beings.

  17. In my dictionary the first definition of scape goat is:

    One that is made to bear the blame of others.

    Excerpted from The American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language, Third Edition Copyright © 1992 by Houghton Mifflin Company. Electronic version licensed from Lernout & Hauspie Speech Products N.V., further reproduction and distribution restricted in accordance with the Copyright Law of the United States. All rights reserved.

    Theologicly this is a little inaccurate as Jesus was not drafted, he bore the punishment for the sins of mankind voluntarily. Otherwise scapegoat sounds about right.

    Otpu

  18. otpu — April 18, 2006 @ 9:09 pm – April 18, 2006

    Do a little research. The scapegoat ritual involved two goats. Each year, the tribe ritually heaped one of the goats with the “sins” of the tribe. The other goat was without sin. The goat upon which the “sins” of the tribe were ritually heaped upon was driven into the wilderness, presumably to die. The goat that was without sin was sacrificed, and the flesh was partaken of the tribe.

    The analogy to the crucifiction should be obvious. The Jesus character in the bible was supposedly without sin and he was supposedly sacrificed. (The sinless goat.) What was the sinful goat? The Judas character, perhaps, since he allegedly betrayed the Jesus character, and, thus, sinned.

    Let’s take this one step further: the “communion” ritual. The communion ritual is, obviously, ritual cannibalism. But, in analogy to the scaptgoat ritual, it is the partaking of the flesh of the scapegoat by the tribe.

    The modern definition of “scapegoat” is interesting, but it has little to do with the scapegoat ritual of ancient times.

  19. Nice blog! This is my first visit.
    Wow, Raj, your understanding of Christianity and its Jewish roots is lacking (as is your spelling). Judas plays no real role in the history of redemption, certainly nothing that approaches his being a “goat” (to continue to abuse and stretch the analogy upon which you’re fixated). Rather than being “ritual cannibalism”, the New Covenant instituted at the Last Supper is (to use your word) “obviously” a direct reference to the previous Covenant, in which the sacrifice was eaten. Jesus was no more calling for cannibalism than he was (“obviously”) calling for door worship, when He said He was the door to the sheepfold, or vine worship when He said He was the True Vine.
    Hollywood NeoCon called it right.

  20. One thing that never seems to occur to the “it’s-all-a-myth” types is that the mythology may prefigure the truth as played out in Christian history. If there is a God (humor me, skeptics), then God is not bound to our time/space limitations. Perhaps the mythology, from pagan fertility cults and the like (certainly it predated even Judaism), may have FORESHADOWED Christ.

    Those who make fun of us for believing in Christ have made a decision NOT to believe. When they try to make it sound like the inevitable result of their superior wisdom, all they’re doing is showing their own insecurity.

    One of the smartest people in history was probably the one who first figured out how to make a wheel. Our modern skeptics wouldn’t want to hang around much with him — he worshiped bison and deer and probably didn’t use deodorant — but he may have had a higher I.Q. than do many of our modern atheists.

    When we go away to college, a lot of us learn how to worship our own intellects. Some of us eventually graduate, and others do not.