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		<title>By: rightwingprof</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2006/05/04/message-to-congress/comment-page-1/#comment-642</link>
		<dc:creator>rightwingprof</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 May 2006 18:30:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;rather than&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Not &quot;rather than,&quot; bed-wetter, &quot;in addition to.&quot; I address the points; you just spout Pointless Liberal Factoids.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>rather than</p></blockquote>
<p>Not &#8220;rather than,&#8221; bed-wetter, &#8220;in addition to.&#8221; I address the points; you just spout Pointless Liberal Factoids.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2006/05/04/message-to-congress/comment-page-1/#comment-641</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 May 2006 18:21:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>8:  Because he (like a few other people who write on this blog) like to make themselves feel superior in cyber-space by making anonymous personal attacks on other people, rather than sticking to an adult/rational debate of the topic at hand.  His response in number 11 proves it.  It&#039;s the Dick Cheney &quot;fuck you&quot; way of dealing with issues; when someone is intellectually inferior and can&#039;t think of a truly intelligent response, they stoop to name calling.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>8:  Because he (like a few other people who write on this blog) like to make themselves feel superior in cyber-space by making anonymous personal attacks on other people, rather than sticking to an adult/rational debate of the topic at hand.  His response in number 11 proves it.  It&#8217;s the Dick Cheney &#8220;fuck you&#8221; way of dealing with issues; when someone is intellectually inferior and can&#8217;t think of a truly intelligent response, they stoop to name calling.</p>
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		<title>By: rightwingprof</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2006/05/04/message-to-congress/comment-page-1/#comment-640</link>
		<dc:creator>rightwingprof</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 May 2006 16:31:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Why is is necessary for rightwingprof to insert an insult is so many of his responses to those with whom he disagrees? For example, was the addition of “bed wetter” in his comment above necessary?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Because I feel like it, liberal. What are you going to do about it, besides whine some more?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Why is is necessary for rightwingprof to insert an insult is so many of his responses to those with whom he disagrees? For example, was the addition of “bed wetter” in his comment above necessary?</p></blockquote>
<p>Because I feel like it, liberal. What are you going to do about it, besides whine some more?</p>
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		<title>By: Trace Phelps</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2006/05/04/message-to-congress/comment-page-1/#comment-639</link>
		<dc:creator>Trace Phelps</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 May 2006 03:52:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kevin, I do feel sorry for people who aren&#039;t sure where their next meals are coming from, who don&#039;t have clean drinking water, who have to piss in their front yards, but if they live in Mexico, Central America or South America, they&#039;re the responsibilities of their own governments.

The resources of the United States should be focused on American citizens living in poverty -- and there are many of them.

We could bring this debate to an if the United States applied to illegal aliens the same laws Mexico applies to illegal aliens in Nexico.  That would be fair, wouldn&#039;t it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kevin, I do feel sorry for people who aren&#8217;t sure where their next meals are coming from, who don&#8217;t have clean drinking water, who have to piss in their front yards, but if they live in Mexico, Central America or South America, they&#8217;re the responsibilities of their own governments.</p>
<p>The resources of the United States should be focused on American citizens living in poverty &#8212; and there are many of them.</p>
<p>We could bring this debate to an if the United States applied to illegal aliens the same laws Mexico applies to illegal aliens in Nexico.  That would be fair, wouldn&#8217;t it.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2006/05/04/message-to-congress/comment-page-1/#comment-638</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 May 2006 03:32:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Try to imagine if you came from a dirt poor background.  You don&#039;t know where your next meal is coming from; the drinking water most likely makes you sick most of the time and the only sanitary facility you have is the street outside your front door.  Now you get a chance to go to a place where you can have some kind of nutritional sustiance, running water and a toilet, perhaps a few cents in your pocket.  Now, you have this, but you&#039;re told you can only have it for a couple of years and you need to go back where you came from.  Would you want to go back?

The guest worker program is one of the stupidest ideas Bush has ever come up with.  People bitch and moan about these awful immigrants in this country, but no one&#039;s complaining about the cheap labor we get from them at the slave wages we pay.

Bush republicans are very fond of saying &quot;well, they&#039;re going to do jobs that Americans won&#039;t do&quot;.  The truth is, there are Americans who would do these jobs, but Americans want them at a least a minimum, decent living wages that would let them afford basic meals, a room to live in and a bathroom.  Business owners in this country don&#039;t want people to realize this fact and continue with these false reasons for this program.

I also find it interesting that this whole issue has now boiled up when Bush has (once again) hit rock bottom in his poll ratings.  So if you agree with this guest worker program, then how exactly do weed out potential bad seeds from a group who may do almost anything (including working for terrorists) to make money?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Try to imagine if you came from a dirt poor background.  You don&#8217;t know where your next meal is coming from; the drinking water most likely makes you sick most of the time and the only sanitary facility you have is the street outside your front door.  Now you get a chance to go to a place where you can have some kind of nutritional sustiance, running water and a toilet, perhaps a few cents in your pocket.  Now, you have this, but you&#8217;re told you can only have it for a couple of years and you need to go back where you came from.  Would you want to go back?</p>
<p>The guest worker program is one of the stupidest ideas Bush has ever come up with.  People bitch and moan about these awful immigrants in this country, but no one&#8217;s complaining about the cheap labor we get from them at the slave wages we pay.</p>
<p>Bush republicans are very fond of saying &#8220;well, they&#8217;re going to do jobs that Americans won&#8217;t do&#8221;.  The truth is, there are Americans who would do these jobs, but Americans want them at a least a minimum, decent living wages that would let them afford basic meals, a room to live in and a bathroom.  Business owners in this country don&#8217;t want people to realize this fact and continue with these false reasons for this program.</p>
<p>I also find it interesting that this whole issue has now boiled up when Bush has (once again) hit rock bottom in his poll ratings.  So if you agree with this guest worker program, then how exactly do weed out potential bad seeds from a group who may do almost anything (including working for terrorists) to make money?</p>
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		<title>By: Trace Phelps</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2006/05/04/message-to-congress/comment-page-1/#comment-637</link>
		<dc:creator>Trace Phelps</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 May 2006 23:26:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why is is necessary for rightwingprof to insert an insult is so many of his responses to those with whom he disagrees?  For example, was the addition of &quot;bed wetter&quot; in his comment above necessary?

Did rwp fail to read GayPatriotWest&#039;s recent plea for those posting comments to tone down the name-calling?  Or did he just choose to ignore it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why is is necessary for rightwingprof to insert an insult is so many of his responses to those with whom he disagrees?  For example, was the addition of &#8220;bed wetter&#8221; in his comment above necessary?</p>
<p>Did rwp fail to read GayPatriotWest&#8217;s recent plea for those posting comments to tone down the name-calling?  Or did he just choose to ignore it?</p>
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		<title>By: rightwingprof</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2006/05/04/message-to-congress/comment-page-1/#comment-636</link>
		<dc:creator>rightwingprof</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 May 2006 21:55:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;So you mean to say that politicians should govern by public opinion polls?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

What part of &quot;representative&quot; don&#039;t you understand, bed-wetter?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>So you mean to say that politicians should govern by public opinion polls?</p></blockquote>
<p>What part of &#8220;representative&#8221; don&#8217;t you understand, bed-wetter?</p>
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		<title>By: jimmy</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2006/05/04/message-to-congress/comment-page-1/#comment-635</link>
		<dc:creator>jimmy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 May 2006 19:55:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#5.  So you mean to say that politicians should govern by public opinion polls?  Fascinating.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#5.  So you mean to say that politicians should govern by public opinion polls?  Fascinating.</p>
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		<title>By: rightwingprof</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2006/05/04/message-to-congress/comment-page-1/#comment-634</link>
		<dc:creator>rightwingprof</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 May 2006 14:38:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On immigration and spending, the Senate is paying no attention to the voters, but &lt;a href=&quot;http://rightwingnation.com/index.php/2006/05/05/1387/&quot;&gt;the House is&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On immigration and spending, the Senate is paying no attention to the voters, but <a href="http://rightwingnation.com/index.php/2006/05/05/1387/">the House is</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: raj</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2006/05/04/message-to-congress/comment-page-1/#comment-633</link>
		<dc:creator>raj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 May 2006 13:42:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From the post

&lt;i&gt;I agree with the President on the necessity of a guest-worker program for many of those already here...&lt;/i&gt;

You do realize, don&#039;t you, that a &quot;guest worker&quot; program merely institutionalizes the &quot;guest workers&quot; in low-wage jobs--and by that I mean jobs that would pay wages below what could be commanded if the &quot;guest workers&quot; were not in the US.   That has been the experience with &quot;guest worker&quot; jobs in the hi-tech industry--so-called H1B visas.  The hi-tech companies in the US cried for the H1B program because--they claimed--they could not find enough home-grown Americans to supply their demand for workers.  Some of that may be true, but the way that the H1B program developed, the companies could pay less for H1B workers than for home-grown American workers.  Companies loved it.

&lt;i&gt;The GOP has controlled the Congress since 1994 and has failed to do anything.&lt;/i&gt;

What do you expect?  The GOP&#039;s major constituency prefers low-wage (even off-the-books) workers.  They pay at a lower rate than otherwise.  And they pay little employment-related taxes.  No social security or medicare.  No unemployment or workman&#039;s compensation.  No benefits.  No nothing.  Of course, one would expect that the employers would have to pay some taxes, otherwise the IRS might do an audit, but it is far from clear that it does.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From the post</p>
<p><i>I agree with the President on the necessity of a guest-worker program for many of those already here&#8230;</i></p>
<p>You do realize, don&#8217;t you, that a &#8220;guest worker&#8221; program merely institutionalizes the &#8220;guest workers&#8221; in low-wage jobs&#8211;and by that I mean jobs that would pay wages below what could be commanded if the &#8220;guest workers&#8221; were not in the US.   That has been the experience with &#8220;guest worker&#8221; jobs in the hi-tech industry&#8211;so-called H1B visas.  The hi-tech companies in the US cried for the H1B program because&#8211;they claimed&#8211;they could not find enough home-grown Americans to supply their demand for workers.  Some of that may be true, but the way that the H1B program developed, the companies could pay less for H1B workers than for home-grown American workers.  Companies loved it.</p>
<p><i>The GOP has controlled the Congress since 1994 and has failed to do anything.</i></p>
<p>What do you expect?  The GOP&#8217;s major constituency prefers low-wage (even off-the-books) workers.  They pay at a lower rate than otherwise.  And they pay little employment-related taxes.  No social security or medicare.  No unemployment or workman&#8217;s compensation.  No benefits.  No nothing.  Of course, one would expect that the employers would have to pay some taxes, otherwise the IRS might do an audit, but it is far from clear that it does.</p>
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		<title>By: Ian</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2006/05/04/message-to-congress/comment-page-1/#comment-632</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 May 2006 01:53:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great idea!

Let&#039;s send them all back to Central America!

That way, the Republicans can outsource all our jobs to the 12 million immigrants we just deported!

By the way... when gay foreigners get &quot;married&quot; to Americans... do they get citizenship? No? How&#039;s that make you feel?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great idea!</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s send them all back to Central America!</p>
<p>That way, the Republicans can outsource all our jobs to the 12 million immigrants we just deported!</p>
<p>By the way&#8230; when gay foreigners get &#8220;married&#8221; to Americans&#8230; do they get citizenship? No? How&#8217;s that make you feel?</p>
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		<title>By: Average Gay Joe</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2006/05/04/message-to-congress/comment-page-1/#comment-631</link>
		<dc:creator>Average Gay Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 May 2006 01:14:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bush is human.  I like the guy and believe he genuinely means well, but he&#039;s not above criticism for his mistakes just as with the rest of us.  Bruce may or may not agree with my critique here, but he knows this himself.  Besides, I&#039;ve never been one to toe any party-line especially when I think something is wrong.  I believe Bruce agrees with that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bush is human.  I like the guy and believe he genuinely means well, but he&#8217;s not above criticism for his mistakes just as with the rest of us.  Bruce may or may not agree with my critique here, but he knows this himself.  Besides, I&#8217;ve never been one to toe any party-line especially when I think something is wrong.  I believe Bruce agrees with that.</p>
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		<title>By: Trace Phelps</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2006/05/04/message-to-congress/comment-page-1/#comment-630</link>
		<dc:creator>Trace Phelps</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 May 2006 01:03:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post, Joe.  I agree with the need to let Congress and the president know we aren&#039;t going to take it anymore!

We both know, Joe, why the borders haven&#039;t been secured.  Big donors to the GOP want all those workers they can employ at near-slave wages and poor working conditions.

BTW, I&#039;m surprised Bruce let you post something so critical of his can-do-nothing-wrong Dubya.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post, Joe.  I agree with the need to let Congress and the president know we aren&#8217;t going to take it anymore!</p>
<p>We both know, Joe, why the borders haven&#8217;t been secured.  Big donors to the GOP want all those workers they can employ at near-slave wages and poor working conditions.</p>
<p>BTW, I&#8217;m surprised Bruce let you post something so critical of his can-do-nothing-wrong Dubya.</p>
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