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Important Symbolism in Zarqawi Reaction by Iraqis

Posted by Bruce Carroll at 8:28 am - June 8, 2006.
Filed under: War On Terror

So far this morning, I’ve seen dancing in the streets by civilians and police alike (as they did when Saddam was captured and his two evil sons were killed)…but I think this account of the announcement by Gen. Casey and Iraqi PM Nuri al-Maliki is most telling. (h/t – Malcontent)

“Today Zarqawi has been terminated,” Iraqi Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki announced at a televised news conference with the top U.S. commander in Iraq, General George Casey, prompting applause and cheering from Iraqi journalists.

“Every time a Zarqawi appears we will kill him,” Maliki said. “We will continue confronting whoever follows his path. It is an open war between us.”

You see folks….. the Iraqi people and their news media want us to WIN in the Iraqi Theatre in the War on Terror.  I wish I could say the same thing about the elected Democrats and their comrades-in-arms in the American news media.  They only cheer and celebrate the bad news

I would imagine PelosiKennedyReidClintonMurtha will have sober faces today and put the best “we are losing” spin on this story that they can.  I can only imagine how many times they will say “Haditha” and “Abu Grahib” today.   How sad and transparently anti-American…..but par for the course.

Things that make you go HMMMMMM…..

-Bruce (GayPatriot)

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  1. I don’t suppose you’d like to provide some actual examples of mainstream US media “cheering” bad news?

    Comment by John — June 8, 2006 @ 9:44 am - June 8, 2006

  2. John-

    I’m not sure where you would want me to start…. how about “celebrating” the one-year anniversary of Abu Grahib (along with Ted Kennedy)? How about lying about “abuses” (that never happened) at Gitmo? How about lying about the facts regarding the NSA spying on terror suspects?

    Shall I go on?

    Comment by Bruce (GayPatriot) — June 8, 2006 @ 9:48 am - June 8, 2006

  3. His death doesn’t necessarily end anything over there but it is a hell of a moral victory for the freedom supporters. The Left will be grumpy for a few days but then will turn their minds to brighter things like Haditha again. How many hundreds(thousands?) did this bastard kill? We will win this war just this way – no dramatic finale but a steady reduction of the enemy.

    The Left will never admit we won, even decades later, but the important thing is that America did win this and the American people will know it. The press won’t report it and teachers/professors won’t ever teach it but it will still be known.

    Comment by VinceTN — June 8, 2006 @ 10:10 am - June 8, 2006

  4. Sidebar for Matt: VtK says he lost your e-mail and to tell you, please e-mail him ASAP.

    Comment by Calarato — June 8, 2006 @ 10:38 am - June 8, 2006

  5. From the posts and comments so far, it’s not clear to me whether you cons are happier about the victory in nailing Zarqawi or what you consider a “victory” over the “traitors” here in the US who oppose the war and believe the troops should be brought home. But we who are opposed to the war are ecstatic that Zarqawi is dead because such a victory means we can begin to bring our troops home sooner.

    Comment by Ian S — June 8, 2006 @ 10:41 am - June 8, 2006

  6. #5. “How many hundreds(thousands?) did this bastard kill?”

    He actually didn’t kill many at all. He gave directions and orders and organization. He’s one man. His organization continues on. But when you see everything in the world in terms of discrete individuals, I guess you can get really excited about the killing this guy. Great, he’s dead. Fantastic. But to pretend that this is some “winning news” is naive.

    “the important thing is that America did win this”… Yeah, it looks so much like a victory. So, so much like a…victory. (Seriously, what are you smoking? Poppy products from that other country where we were “victorious”, too?)

    Comment by jimmy — June 8, 2006 @ 10:41 am - June 8, 2006

  7. #1. They found the WMDs in Zarqawi’s rectum and he was on a cell phone call with bin Laden when the bomb fell. But we still don’t know where bin Laden is, dead or alive, smoked out of a hole, hunted down or not….

    Comment by jimmy — June 8, 2006 @ 10:43 am - June 8, 2006

  8. #7 – ian, you have just illustrated what I have always said about liberals in general. Any good news for America is bad news for your side.

    This is a victory over an evil man, pure and simple. Nobody is “celebrating” over what it will do politically. What it means is that there will be no more deaths committed by this man’s hand, and that (to quote Martha Stewart) is A GOOD THING.

    It must be pretty pathetic to be a loser all the time, ian. How in the world do you cope with it besides bashing and poo-pooing people on this board? Stick to Daily Chaos where you get your “fair and balanced” information.

    Regards,
    Peter H.

    Comment by Peter Hughes — June 8, 2006 @ 10:45 am - June 8, 2006

  9. “Zarqawi is dead, but the difficult and necessary mission in Iraq continues,” Bush said. “We can expect the terrorists and insurgents to carry on without him. We can expect the sectarian violence to continue.”

    How about that President Bush there, Peter? What a downer, huh?

    Comment by jimmy — June 8, 2006 @ 10:49 am - June 8, 2006

  10. #5. Like Coulter enjoying the use of 9/11 widows in the attempt to make some marketable points to her rabid audience, here, too, you will see that this is more about the “liberals” than it is anything else. The 101st Keyboardists aren’t really any safer than they were yesterday. And they remain wrong.

    “It’s great, good news. … This is a significant hit,” said Sen. Joseph Biden, D-Del. Sen. Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y., said, “The entire world of people believe in freedom and peace can take solace in what happened.”

    Comment by jimmy — June 8, 2006 @ 10:53 am - June 8, 2006

  11. #9 – jimmy, in case you didn’t recognize it, that was GWB covering his backside against any accusations slung from your Crazy Left side if there are any retaliatory actions taken by what is left of al-Qaeda in Iraq. That way, nobody can go back and shrilly scream: “You didn’t tell us they’d attack again! You stupid egotistical lying hypocritical bigot! You PROMISED it would be over!!”

    Never play poker with one of us Texans. You will lose every time.

    Regards,
    Peter H.

    Comment by Peter Hughes — June 8, 2006 @ 10:59 am - June 8, 2006

  12. “I would imagine PelosiKennedyReidClintonMurtha will have sober faces today and put the best “we are losing” spin on this story that they can. I can only imagine how many times they will say “Haditha” and “Abu Grahib” today. How sad and transparently anti-American…..but par for the course.”

    Very true, Bruce.

    And that, my dear friends, is why the GOP will retain the US Congress in November. Nobody trusts the demoncRATS with homeland security. How can we trust a national party that puts its interests above the safety of the country? This party has been salivating for “revenge” ever since 1994. And they never get it, do they? If it’s not the Wellstone funeral, the Swift Boat vets or ridiculous comments by dems running for a CA representative seat that should have been theirs, it’s blather as described above.

    Regards,
    Peter H.

    Comment by Peter Hughes — June 8, 2006 @ 11:02 am - June 8, 2006

  13. #5 – Ian – I don’t know what you said, because I moved on instantly upon seeing “you cons”. Any message starting out that way can’t possibly be worth my while.

    Just as, if one were to go a lefty site and were so dumb and aggressive as to start the message there with “you moonbats”, no one would read it.

    Comment by Calarato — June 8, 2006 @ 11:13 am - June 8, 2006

  14. #8: “Nobody is “celebrating” over what it will do politically.”

    Really? How’s this by GP:

    “I would imagine PelosiKennedyReidClintonMurtha will have sober faces today and put the best “we are losing” spin on this story that they can. I can only imagine how many times they will say “Haditha” and “Abu Grahib” today. How sad and transparently anti-American…..but par for the course.”

    or this bile from TGC:

    “there will be much wailing and gnashing of teeth by the GP team killing fucktards and Reinemachefrau Raj will be bending over trying to prove how it was illegal to kill their hero, al-Zarqawi.”

    or this:

    “The Left will be grumpy for a few days but then will turn their minds to brighter things like Haditha again”

    or this:

    “The Left will never admit we won,”

    Or even this from you:

    “Any good news for America is bad news for your side.”

    To you and your ilk we’re all traitors and this is your glorious victory over us – kinda like when Saddam was caught. You don’t care about Zarqawi and what it means for the Iraqi people. Your gloating is not over the death of Zarqawi as much as it is over those at home who oppose the war and its conduct.

    Comment by Ian S — June 8, 2006 @ 11:14 am - June 8, 2006

  15. #13: “I don’t know what you said, because I moved on instantly upon seeing “you cons””

    “Con” is short for conservative just as “lib” is short for liberal. Or am I missing something?

    Comment by Ian S — June 8, 2006 @ 11:19 am - June 8, 2006

  16. And just think, if we would have followed Murtha’s advise last fall, we could not have gotten the Big Z, as we would be pulling the last of our troops into a transport helicopter, e.g. Saigon, the crowning moment of the anti-war left.

    Comment by sonicfrog — June 8, 2006 @ 11:22 am - June 8, 2006

  17. Zarqawi to Allah: Where are the damn virgins?!?!…

    Finally!

    Boy is he gonna be pissed when he ends up in Hell and realizes that the 72 virgins aren\’t exactly what he expected.

    Some of the reactions I\’ve read so far this morning:

    Trackback by The NJ Blog — June 8, 2006 @ 11:28 am - June 8, 2006

  18. Oh, and one more thing. I hope the missile they used to take him out made just enough noise so that he looked out the window to see what the noise was, and then exclaim something like “Allah, Holy Sh…” as he realized his ass is about to be blown to bits.

    Comment by sonicfrog — June 8, 2006 @ 11:39 am - June 8, 2006

  19. #15 – For starters, you would be missing the fact that I, for one, am not a conservative.

    There are some other things. You can think about it and let it sink in.

    To be perfectly clear: I’m not telling you what to say or not say. Nor do I make your comments “about me”, anyway. I’m only giving you a small data point consisting of my own, personal reaction.

    Comment by Calarato — June 8, 2006 @ 11:52 am - June 8, 2006

  20. #14 – ian, you once again proved my point. How many times have the libs (your word) been rushing to judgment over Abu Graib, Club Gitmo and now Haditha without thinking about the consequences of its impact on both the US troops and the US in general? And how many times have they claimed “moral victory” over things that don’t go their way?

    Also – please show me where you have seen anyone in the GOP who has NOT spoken about “the Iraqi people” with respect to the death of the #1 al-Qaeda operative in Iraq? Rather than heaping praise over the GOP, it seems to me that those in charge have praised both the operatives of the mission as well as the courage of the Iraqis who – while helping keep down the insurgency in their country – had two national elections, voted in a PM and parliament and have now sworn in those politicians?

    Methinks the ian doth protest too much. And it always happens when the descriptions of said ian and libs hits too close to home.

    Regards,
    Peter H.

    Comment by Peter Hughes — June 8, 2006 @ 12:04 pm - June 8, 2006

  21. I told you the Left would be grumpy. A victory for America always makes them grumpy.

    Comment by VinceTN — June 8, 2006 @ 12:38 pm - June 8, 2006

  22. My prediction, for what it’s worth: we will continue to make slow but steady progress in Iraq and as we do the media will take less and less interest the place. In time, Iraq will be a fully functional and viable state but also by that time, the media will be gone, having long ago turned its breathless attention to our country’s latest Viet Nam quagmire.

    Comment by Anthony in NYC — June 8, 2006 @ 12:59 pm - June 8, 2006

  23. Excellent post, Bruce! Very uplifting indeed.

    Comment by Muslihoon — June 8, 2006 @ 2:21 pm - June 8, 2006

  24. And, considering that Democratic Party spokespersons and endorsees Cindy Sheehan and Medea Benjamin openly sent money and support to Zarqawi and his fellow terrorists, I can certainly see why our faithful board Dems are doing everything in their power to divert attention.

    Comment by North Dallas Thirty — June 8, 2006 @ 2:30 pm - June 8, 2006

  25. #22: All well and good but we really don’t have all that much time. Bush needs to be able to start withdrawing the troops before November. With Zarqawi gone, Bush can argue that the foreign element has been pretty much removed from the equation in Iraq. He can say it’s now up to the Iraqis and their elected government to deal with their internal issues. The trops will have to come home soon; Bush is spending their equipment upkeep and replacement funds on his border security show. http://tinyurl.com/lz6f2

    Comment by Ian S — June 8, 2006 @ 2:32 pm - June 8, 2006

  26. They expect Zarqawi’s replacement to be Egyptian. In fact, it sounds like they/we expect a short term escalation as AQ tries to show that they can still make a difference. Oh, and the new cabinet member for defense in Iraq is Sunni. Cool, huh?

    BTW, Ian, I did notice that you said you were ecstatic that Zarqawi was dead. I just wanted to note that.

    Comment by Synova — June 8, 2006 @ 3:02 pm - June 8, 2006

  27. Yes … Ian was estatically cynical.

    Comment by Bruce (GayPatriot) — June 8, 2006 @ 5:52 pm - June 8, 2006

  28. Aboutfecking time. This good news the msm can not ignore as they do so much of the good news in iraq. Now if Bush would only truly close our borders all though the round up here in southeastern michigan yesterday was cool. Now if they would just hit mecican town and get rid of some of them next.

    Comment by Michael Thornton — June 8, 2006 @ 5:57 pm - June 8, 2006

  29. Interesting thing that when the liberals priaise this huge win..they do it while grinding their teeth. Before Pelosi comes out her aides have to tell her, remember, act pleased, about Zarqawis death, and the remarkable US military. We’ll worry later about the damage it does to any hope we had to take over the US Govt. The much more honest liberal view is the comments of M. Berg..who once again blames Bush and America for nearly everything but high humidity. I heard him say that ppl like Zarqawi need to be caught and , sentenced to community work. And that working in hospitals with young wounded Iraqis would change his heart. Man you talk about a weird sense of the real world. This is the father of the beheaded N. Berg. Beheaded by the hands of Zarqawi. I started asking my liberal friends this morning if they are happy at the lastest American victory. They said they were but didnt seem to be happy. Like most of the MSM, look at their faces. They dont seem happy.

    Comment by Gene in Pennsylvania — June 8, 2006 @ 6:40 pm - June 8, 2006

  30. I work with a significant number of liberals. We also have televisions located in most common areas around the building. Very rarely are they on a station other than CNN. It’s always entertaining to switch it over to Fox and see how many seconds it takes for someone with a rabid look on their face to change it back to CNN. Oddly enough, not a single time did I see any of the televisions on CNN or any news stations today. One time I did notice it was on a replay of the national spelling bee.

    It is painfully obvious how so many liberals hate it when anything positive happens in this war on terror.

    Comment by Barry — June 8, 2006 @ 7:05 pm - June 8, 2006

  31. All well and good but we really don’t have all that much time. Bush needs to be able to start withdrawing the troops before November. With Zarqawi gone, Bush can argue that the foreign element has been pretty much removed from the equation in Iraq. He can say it’s now up to the Iraqis and their elected government to deal with their internal issues. The trops will have to come home soon; Bush is spending their equipment upkeep and replacement funds on his border security show.

    Pardon me, but what a completely assinine and idiotic statement. What, is this the DNC talking point that’s being passed out? I heard virtually the same thing in Pelosi’s press conference today. It would be the height of irresponsibility and immoral as heck to abandon the Iraqis right when things are looking better for them. That’s like saying the US should have packed up and went home after Admiral Yamamoto was killed or Field Marhsal Rommel committed suicide. This was significant blow to al Qaeda in Iraq today but it isn’t over yet. Yes we can start withdrawing troops but only when at such a time as the Iraqis are able to stand on their own and in such a way that doesn’t leave the people at the mercy of Zarqawi’s remaining thugs.

    Comment by John (AGJ) — June 8, 2006 @ 7:11 pm - June 8, 2006

  32. Ian (#25) – Since withdrawal of US troops is what brought the Jordanian to Iraq to begin with… then your way of “celebrating” Zarqawi’s death is to bring him in death what he couldn’t get in life — US withdrawal.

    Doesn’t that bother you?

    Comment by GayPatriot — June 8, 2006 @ 7:19 pm - June 8, 2006

  33. the author wrote: You see folks….. the Iraqi people and their news media want us to WIN in the Iraqi Theatre in the War on Terror.

    Hang on a minute, your own blockquote only mentioned Iraqi PRESS cheering. Did you just take it upon yourself to extrapolate to the entirety of iraq?

    Comment by God of Biscuits — June 8, 2006 @ 9:35 pm - June 8, 2006

  34. #32: “Since withdrawal of US troops is what brought the Jordanian to Iraq to begin with”

    Oh you mean to the Kurdish area that was under the protection of our no-fly zone? I don’t think you really want to go there. Dear Leader, after all, had clear opportunities to nail Zarqawi BEFORE the war but chose not to since that would have eliminated one of his prized talking points about al Qaeda being in Iraq – even if it was a part of Iraq not under Saddam’s control.

    As for US withdrawl, sorry Bruce, it will happen soon no matter what you or I think or want. Even absent the political motives, our military is being ground down and with Bush even diverting funds for equipment upkeep and replacement to his Potemkin border security fiasco, I think the Administration is poised to cut and run. When it does, you and the other war cheerleaders will have to turn on a dime, so don’t go out on too far on the “stay the course” limb. If you do you’ll regret it.

    Comment by Ian S — June 9, 2006 @ 1:16 am - June 9, 2006

  35. #32 by GayPatriot — June 8, 2006 @ 7:19 pm – June 8, 2006

    Since withdrawal of US troops is what brought the Jordanian to Iraq to begin with…

    Apparently, you seem to forget–or, I suppose, you wish to conveniently ignore–the fact that testimony from the convicted criminal from Jordan, Chalibi, was more than a bit of the supposed “evidence” that the Bush malAdminitration used to go into Iraq, to begin with.

    Apparently, you also wish to forget–or ignore–the fact that Zarqawi, in his presence in northern Iraq, was protected by the American “no-fly zone.”

    Hey, whatever, es ist mir egal. It is your children who will be paying the price.

    Comment by raj — June 9, 2006 @ 3:30 am - June 9, 2006

  36. #11. I usually don’t use these online abbreviations, but I have to for this one.

    LOL!!! Texan? George W. Bush is a Texan??? LMAO!!! He’s from a Northeastern Establishment Family and if you think he is a Texan, I would like to play poker, bridge, and Uno with you anytime. LOL!!!!

    Comment by jimmy — June 9, 2006 @ 8:31 am - June 9, 2006

  37. #32. Any good therapist will tell you that one has to have a strong internal locus of control. One can’t make decisions based on what other people want, have wanted, think, have thought, etc. One becomes a slave to that other person if they do, whether that person is dead or alive. Locus of control…our policies shouldn’t give so much weight to other people, especially if they are dead.

    Comment by jimmy — June 9, 2006 @ 8:34 am - June 9, 2006

  38. #36 – little jimmy, get a grip. GWB’s father was born in Kennebunkport, Maine. After he and Barbara moved to Midland after the war, GWB was born and then the family moved to Houston (where he was a US Congressman from the 18th District, my neighborhood).

    GWB grew up in Texas with the exception of his 4 years at Yale (where he actually had a better GPA than Algore at Harvard), the National Guard service that Mary Mapes and Dan Rather tried to misrepresent, and then ranching in Crawford.

    So actually, by our standards, YES, he is a Texan. And I’ll take you up on your game offer. Hell, I could probably beat you at jacks and I DON’T PLAY JACKS.

    Regards,
    Peter H.

    Comment by Peter Hughes — June 9, 2006 @ 12:06 pm - June 9, 2006

  39. #35 Ok raj, the latest left wing nutt jobs are saying W (leader of the free world, btw) could have gotten Zarquawi in what

    Comment by Gene in Pennsylvania — June 9, 2006 @ 12:54 pm - June 9, 2006

  40. #38: “GWB grew up in Texas with the exception of his 4 years at Yale”

    You forgot about his years at Philips Academy in Andover, MA.

    Comment by Ian S — June 9, 2006 @ 1:10 pm - June 9, 2006

  41. #40 – ignorant and nauseating, it seems you know more about GWB than you care to admit. What are you, a stalker? Or do you just take perverse pleasure in being the center of attention?

    Regards,
    Peter H.

    Comment by Peter Hughes — June 9, 2006 @ 3:15 pm - June 9, 2006

  42. #41: Peter, you wouldn’t come across as such an ignorant and insufferable twit if you’d just do a little research before pontificating. It would also help if, when you’ve been called on an error of fact, you just admitted your mistake, considered it a learning experience and moved on.

    Comment by Ian S — June 9, 2006 @ 3:55 pm - June 9, 2006

  43. Hey ignorant and nauseating (or should I call you inserted anal nozzle), you should take your own advice. I’ve already debunked three of your so-called “arguments” and you have YET to moveon.org yourself.

    Regards,
    Peter H.

    Comment by Peter Hughes — June 9, 2006 @ 6:02 pm - June 9, 2006

  44. And BTW – your calling me an “insufferable twit” is a picture-perfect case of the pot calling the kettle black. I daresay you’re pontificating is the more obnoxious of the two.

    Regards,
    Peter H.

    Comment by Peter Hughes — June 9, 2006 @ 6:04 pm - June 9, 2006

  45. #39 Gene in Pennsylvania — June 9, 2006 @ 12:54 pm – June 9, 2006

    Would you care to finish your sentence? I can usually interpolate spelling errors.

    Comment by raj — June 10, 2006 @ 4:53 am - June 10, 2006

  46. #45 – Speaking of insufferable snobs…

    Regards,
    Peter H.

    Comment by Peter Hughes — June 10, 2006 @ 12:46 pm - June 10, 2006

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