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Violence & Murder Unprovoked–It’s What Terrorists Do

July 17, 2006 by GayPatriotWest

Last Tuesday, AOL briefly had as one of its rotating headlines, “Group Claims GIs Killed Over Rape, Murders.” By clicking on the link, we learned that the group referenced was an “Al-Qaida Group.” It stunned me that, on its Welcome Page, this news source identified a terrorist group merely as a “group” without any further descriptor.

Perhaps, AOL’s news editors did so because they accepted the group’s rationale — that terrorist groups commit their atrocities as a means for oppressed third world groups to retaliate against “imperialist” Western forces, against whom they only have violent options. These editors — as many others in the news media — seem to have difficulty believing in the evil nature of some of our terrorist adversaries. For them, brought up in the 1960s, the U.S — and other Western nations — are responsible for much of the evil in the world.

In this case, Al-Qaeda claimed it brutally murdered two American soldiers in revenge for the alleged rape of an Iraqi woman and murder of her and her family by other U.S. troops. While Al Qaeda claimed it was killing these soldiers as revenge for the actions of others, the U.S. Army had launched an investigation into the rape and had indicted those who allegedly committed the crime in question.

Despite the headline, it’s clear that Al-Qaeda did not know American soldiers were accused of the rape when they butchered the two American soldiers, which they later claimed was to avenge this terrible crime. From the very text of the article, we learn that the uncle of the women raped said “that the family didn’t think the Americans were involved until the Army announced its investigation June 30.” Ten days after the bodies of the murdered soldiers were found.

Al-Qaeda was just explaining away its latest act of murder in a way which they believed the Western media would just lap up as it supported their theory that U.S. actions only serves to inspire more terrorism. Such after-the-fact explanations notwithstanding, unprovoked murder is what Al Qaeda and other terrorist outfits do.

We see this yet again with the actions these past few weeks of Hamas and Hezbollah, Al Qaeda’s allies in evil. In 2000, Israel withdrew its troops from southern Lebanon, satisfying the United Nations. Last year, Israel withdrew from the Gaza Strip, forcibly evacuating Jewish settlers from homes where some had lived for decades.

Despite these overtures, Hamas and Hezbollah showed little inclination to live in peace with a neighbor which had made concessions to those for whom these groups ostensibly fight. Hamas has been regularly firing rockets into Israel, targeting not just military installations, but primarily civilian populations. Hezbollah has been doing the same from its bases in southern Lebanon.

Hamas fires its rockets from residential neighborhoods while Hezbollah hides its rockets in private homes, sometimes designating special rooms as launching pads. They assume their missiles are relatively safe as Israel is loath to attack civilian targets. But, they also know that, if need be — and that need has arisen given the hundreds of rockets Hezbollah has launched on civilian Israeli targets — Israel will act to take out those rockets, even if to promote their own citizens’ security, they risk incurring civilian casualties.

Terrorist organizations delight in such casualties as they can use them as props in their propaganda offensive.

The Western media may still believe that terrorists are just frustrated freedom fighters, using the only means they have to strike against Western imperialism. But, events of the past week have shown that even when a nation offers concessions, terrorists will not relent in their attacks. Indeed, in some cases, concessions spur them on to ever greater violence.

Israel responds to international pressure and withdraws from territorities (which some believed) it needed as buffer zones to protect its civilians. Hamas and Hezbollah reply by crossing recognized intnernational borders into Israel’s sovereign territory and murdering and kidnapping soldiers. They continue to target civilians with repeat rocket attacks.

It’s not Western imperialism which prompts their violence. It’s just what these terorrist organizations do. It’s time we understand this and react accordingly. That’s exactly what Israel is doing in Gaza and in Lebanon. All friends of freedom and the security of peace-loving peoples should support them now — and in the difficult days ahead.

-Dan (AKA GayPatriotWest): GayPatriotWest@aol.com

Filed Under: Media Bias, War On Terror

Comments

  1. Barry says

    July 17, 2006 at 8:32 pm - July 17, 2006

    I see I’m not the only one who noticed that headline and article on the AOL website. Al-Qaeda threw out a bogus claim and of course the MSM snapped it up as the gospel truth to try to justify the horrendous murder of our two brave soldiers.

    Today, President Bush lets an expletive slip and it is the screaming headlines on AOL’s and CNN’s websites (and I’m sure many others). This on a day when the Israel/Hezbollah conflict continues to intensify, space shuttle Discovery returns from an enormously successful flight, Indonesia is hit yet again by another tsunami causing numerous deaths. Embarrassing for they president, yes; worthy of hours atop their websites as the earth shattering story of the day, no.

    It seems as if the MSM and many people would rather see the end of the world as we know it than do anything to support President Bush.

    When are the MSM and people going to realize the Islamic terrorists are not “frustrated freedom fighters” but radical monsters who don’t want to negotiate? They want worldwide chaos. They want me dead. They want your family dead. They want your friends dead. They want you dead. There is no middle ground. This is a fight we can not afford to lose.

  2. Leah says

    July 17, 2006 at 8:48 pm - July 17, 2006

    Dan, we aren’t alone, aside from President Bush and Prime minister Blair, the good people of America are coming out to support Israel in it’s fight against terror.
    Check out:http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2006/07/stand_with_isra.html
    scroll down to the vlog of Elie Weisel, he personally thanks God that Bush is president.

  3. Michigan-Matt says

    July 17, 2006 at 10:24 pm - July 17, 2006

    Dan, another good post.

    I listened to former Gen Wes Clark offer his summary of the diplomatic troubles now confronting Israel and Hezbollah –in essence, suggesting that diplomacy and leadership by the US is the ONLY way out of this latest slugfest in the MiddleEast. Force never works after all.

    Where was Wes Clark when Lebanon was failing to disarm and flush the Hezbollah terrorists out of southern Lebanon after the Israeli army withdrew? Still preaching on the campaign trail and hoping to one day grab the Democrat’s presidential nomination? Wes Clark is the moral equivalent to Neville Chamberlain and the entire preWWII French govt. Terrorists don’t negotiate; they kill the diplomats and thousands of others.

    And Wesley echoes the nonsense now in vogue as Democrat Party speaking points: that if the Democrats were in control and working on the MiddleEast –like the brave, the invincible, the Superman of intern’l relations…Slick Willy– we’d be so far ahead and Israel wouldn’t have to be “destabilizing the sensitive MiddleEast” like they’re doing at this very minute because the bellicose bastards can’t find the civility to restrain themselves.

    If Slick Willy or AlGore were in power, they’d just invite the battling factions to the WH and make some strong drinks, talk some frank talk, order the dancing women for 8PM and work it out over swirling tassels and shaking booties.

    Right. God, if Bill and Al were still in power we could bomb all those Hezbollah aspirin factories. Tail wags the dog

  4. Gustav says

    July 17, 2006 at 10:44 pm - July 17, 2006

    ARRGGHH!!! Oh how I can’t stand this “blame the US for everything”….thing! Sorry for the rant, but why can’t Europe step up? Oh I know, They are so cultaahhd, and sopheesticated on their fence-sitting behinds that they don’t realise the spoiled bratness(i.e.: ineffectivness) of this malignant idiocy. And the Euro-wannabe’s are no better. Sounds like the teenager who goes off “…I hate you mom and dad….you can’t tell me what to do!!! Uh; where’s my allowance???”
    Hopefully this will start to change….hoping….still hoping….

  5. ThatGayConservative says

    July 18, 2006 at 1:06 am - July 18, 2006

    Terrorist organizations delight in such casualties as they can use them as props in their propaganda offensive.

    And the libs and their lap dog MSM laps it up gleefully.

    #1

    It seems as if the MSM and many people would rather see the end of the world as we know it than do anything to support President Bush.

    Hell, they’ll contribute to it.
    Anything to bash Bush and regain their birthright of absolute power. There’s example after example of how they’ll lie and make up news and then they demand another 9/11 type attack by whining about the need to “redeploy”.

    All the while showing the caskets of soldiers in their campaign commercials to make you think they give a royal damn.

  6. Well Excuse Me says

    July 18, 2006 at 2:13 am - July 18, 2006

    [I deleted the comment because it had absolutely nothing to do with the post. And it was clear from the blogger\’s tone and references that he has a personal beef with me. I suggest that instead of hiding behind his anonymity, he e-mail me privately to tell me what I have done to upset him so. –Dan.]

  7. mario says

    July 18, 2006 at 4:24 am - July 18, 2006

    Gustav, You know I live in Europe and it is pretty sad to read your post. Rather than putting Europeans down how about doing some reading and learning about us and what we believe in. When we disagree with something we try to focus on the policy not on the personal. Perhaps this is the “cultaahhd” thing you refer to and seem to be upset by.

    So what was this really about “Oh I know, They are so cultaahhd, and sopheesticated on their fence-sitting behinds that they don’t realise the spoiled bratness(i.e.: ineffectivness) of this malignant idiocy. And the Euro-wannabe’s are no better. Sounds like the teenager who goes off “…I hate you mom and dad….you can’t tell me what to do!!! Uh; where’s my allowance???”

  8. V the K says

    July 18, 2006 at 6:22 am - July 18, 2006

    #3 — I just don’t see what there is to negotiate. Hamas and Hizbullah want to kill every Jew in Israel. What do you negotiate? Do they get to kill half the Jews?

    Whenever I hear the Palestinians whine about how miserable and oppressed they are, I can’t help but call ‘bullshit.’ The fact is, lots of people throughout history have been displaced, and pretty much every human being on Earth today lives on land that once belonged to somebody else. The refugees who fled Red China to Taiwan didn’t sit around whining, seething, and strapping suicide belts to their kids, they worked their asses off and built an economy and a democracy on par with the best in the world. If the Palis and their oil tick patrons had done the same, they wouldn’t be living off UN handouts in “refugee camps.”

    Diplomacy can only work if both sides want peace, and the Palestinians/Muslim extremists don’t want peace. So, all that diplomacy can accomplish is killing more people at a slower rate over a longer period of time.

  9. V the K says

    July 18, 2006 at 6:31 am - July 18, 2006

    And that people look at the Israeli-Palestinian situation and say to themselves, “You know, I’m gonna side up with the folks that shoot rockets at schools, I’m gonna side with the people who stone gay people to death and kill their daughters for dishonoring the family, I’m gonna side with the people who strap bomb-belts to their kids. Because they seem to have the moral upper hand,” is just frakkin’ nuts.

  10. Michigan-Matt says

    July 18, 2006 at 8:43 am - July 18, 2006

    VdaK, the liberals and radical Left sadde-up to the Hezbollah and Hamas and PLO and al Qaeda terrorists because they identify with their anger, their all-consuming hatred, their impotency and marginalization in a world that sees them mostly as irritants, bloody fools, and murderers. It’s like that high school jerk in the back of the class that shot spitballs… she glories in distracting the smart, deliberate kids from success and, when caught, gets bounced… then complains about unfair treatment to get back in for the attention she craves. Repeat.

    PLO flags at Pride events? Calls for quick pull out in Iraq at DNC events? Code Pink as bodyguards for CindyZeroSheehan? It is a world finally exposed and transparent and the radical Left –including the GayLeft– is right in bed with the terrorists and they don’t even appreciate the damage their playtime in the sheets is doing to a world seeking liberty, peace, stability, freedom & basic human rights for all.

    Like the idiots in Boston bars raising funds for the IRA in the 1980s, today’s Left glorifies and revels in the notion that there are other groups out there as mad and angry as the Left in America. “Comrades, the GayLeft salutes you”.

  11. V the K says

    July 18, 2006 at 9:42 am - July 18, 2006

    The Gay Left and Palestinian Islamo-Nazis: United in Fantasies of Victimhood and Oppression. (BDSMVO?)

  12. V the K says

    July 18, 2006 at 9:47 am - July 18, 2006

    Speaking of gays who are into bondage and humiliation, has anyone noticed Sullington’s recent stalker-like obsession with Instapundit? Not only is the Ever-Emotive Andrianna constantly attacking him on his blog, but I understand Glenn is getting forty emails from Andy a day asking for his Body Mass Index.

  13. raj says

    July 18, 2006 at 11:21 am - July 18, 2006

    #4 Gustav — July 17, 2006 @ 10:44 pm – July 17, 2006

    Sorry for the rant, but why can’t Europe step up?

    Step up to what? If an individual European country wants to “step up” to something, it is more than capable of doing so. I guess it has escaped your notice that Europe does not have a uniform foreign policy–not even the countries comprising the EU. Why should it? The EU is an economic union, not a political union, and certainly not a union regarding foreign policy. So, if Italy or Poland wants to “step up” to something, they are free to do so. But, if they get into trouble by doing so, they don’t really have a claim on the other EU members–or on NATO, for that matter–to bail them out of their bad choices.

    And why should any of the EU members bail the US out of its bad choices? The US has shown its lack of interest in opinions of the peoples in the various countries in Europe, so why should the EU or those countries support the US? Loyalty in one direction demands loyalty in the other, and the Bush malAdministration has shown quite clearly that it is uninterested in paying attention to the interests of the various European countries.

  14. raj says

    July 18, 2006 at 11:21 am - July 18, 2006

    #10 Michigan-Matt — July 18, 2006 @ 8:43 am – July 18, 2006

    Like the idiots in Boston bars raising funds for the IRA in the 1980s…

    Oh, and what was your opinion of collections from Jews in the US in the 1940s that were purported to be for the support of the nascent state of Israel?

    Sorry, but the fact is that there is still an enclave on the Emerald Isle that is the remnants of the British hegemony over the island.

    Is that “right”? You tell me. But I doubt very seriously that you will be able to justify your opinion, one versus the other.

  15. Br. Katana of Reasoned Discussion says

    July 18, 2006 at 12:11 pm - July 18, 2006

    It’s amazing anyone can think there is a blameless side in this conflict. Or that it’s a recent (however you wish to define that) struggle. Or that there is any good solution to be worked out (short of a friends comment of “Nuke ’em till they glow then shoot ’em in the dark”).

    Yeah, the Islamists attack military and civilian targets indescriminately. And Israel is good at aiming and hitting targets killing military and civilians alike. For every offense on one side there is a previous offense from the other going back to Biblical pre-history.

  16. V the K says

    July 18, 2006 at 12:11 pm - July 18, 2006

    Wow! One is awestruck by the depth of raj’s ignorance. First of all, Gustav refers to ‘Europe’ not the EU. The individual countries in Europe could certainly do more, but they are held hostage to both their restive immigrant populations and their left-pacifist impulses.

    And secondly, the EU has a very extensive foreign policy apparatus, as a quick look at the European Parliament’s webpage (link: http://www.europarl.europa.eu/news/public/documents_par_theme/903/default_en.htm) will illustrate. Note its references to “EU relations” with other countries.

    But let it never be said that ignorance was ever a barrier to raj lecturing others on how wrong they are.

  17. V the K says

    July 18, 2006 at 12:16 pm - July 18, 2006

    #16: ” For every offense on one side there is a previous offense from the other going back to Biblical pre-history.”

    A dubious assertion, but for argument’s sake, let’s suppose it were true. What one can not then say is that both sides have made sincere and concerted efforts toward peace and peacful cohabitation. Only one side has demonstrated its willingness to sacrifice land in the interest of peace and to abide by agreements made in pursuit of peace.The other side has not. Once again, moral equivalence is shown to be a sham argument.

  18. V the K says

    July 18, 2006 at 12:22 pm - July 18, 2006

    Put another way, Israel has given up the Sinai, Gaza, and offered most of the West Bank in return for peace. All that has ever been asked of the Palestinians is that they stop killing Jews. This, alas, has proven too much to ask of them.

  19. Michigan-Matt says

    July 18, 2006 at 1:08 pm - July 18, 2006

    VdaK, you’ve nailed the raj once again. Only to his way of thinking Europe does equal the EU… where liberals and dysfunctionalLeft abound in even greater numbers. Its telling that raj hears European country and thinks EU.

    Any European country –either in its elected leadership or by its legislature– could weigh in on the issue of Hezbollah, Hamas, PLO, and alQaeda operating for instability and destruction in the MiddleEast.

    But we don’t have to wait for them. Let’s have ou own US contingent of “We Can Do Better” Democrats. I’m still waiting for the planeload of Democrat politicans and diplomats like MaddieAlbright, Osama Barack, SandieStuffYourPantsBerger, maybe LyingJoeBiden and a few others to head on over and sort it all out. And because the MiddleEast is a land of screaming diplomats and clerics… we need to throw in HowieWeScreamDean for balance. TeddieK can drive once they’re on the ground… PaddieK can navigate around the cement embankments. Momma Moonbat CindyZero can pass out cookies… the Dixie Chicks could have a concert of healing… hell, let DanRather do the on-the-spot documentary to catalogue the success. AlGore can handle the weather forecasts. JimminyCricketCarter can authenticate the elections >>such a world leader that peanut farmer!

    They could start in any European country in case the cowards run cold in the face of unfettered aggression.

    The raj misses point after salient point in these critical policy debates and just spins for prevarication’s sake. (BTW, wasn’t it raj baby that was ceaselessly prodding you for your Body Mass Index last week? I think we’ve found another site of raj baby’s talking point, VdaK… Andie Sullivan’s blog of uninformed opinion).

    raj: on the Boston idiots giving money to the IRA… I hope I didn’t trigger resentment on your part for past contributions. Go check the DailyKos for the approved talking points on the BigDig, “British hegemony” in Ireland (ha), etc. Then come on back and do the usual sputtering. Any 1-L student could have told you that was a better course of action.

  20. V the K says

    July 18, 2006 at 1:14 pm - July 18, 2006

    #20 — I was joking about Sully asking that of Glenn Reynolds. But it was genuinely creepy the way raj kept demanding that. I realize it was probably just another one of raj’s trademark change-the-subject-because- I’m-losing-the-argument weasels, but nevertheless… Eeew.

  21. V the K says

    July 18, 2006 at 1:21 pm - July 18, 2006

    And, if you are all interested, my Sullington comment was inspired by this Ace of Spades post: http://ace.mu.nu/archives/186416.php

  22. Michigan-Matt says

    July 18, 2006 at 4:41 pm - July 18, 2006

    Phew, it’s just too creepy to contemplate… btw, newsflash from Michigan… looks like one of the Democrat Party’s rising stars –but only if that’s “rising” up from the stench and corruption of Wayne County govt– Governor GoodSmile Granholm is heading for the dustpin of political history. Her opponent, a str8-out-of-the-conservative-ranks-of-the-GOP leadership Dick DeVos has her waxed in the polling at 48% to a paltry 41%… and his numbers are not moving… her’s are: down.

    It’s going to be a long wait for her to pick up a job in DC when the Democrats finally get back into power. It’d be a good payback for her leaving gays high and dry during the successful adoption of an FMA initiative here.

  23. Gustav says

    July 18, 2006 at 10:07 pm - July 18, 2006

    OK-here goes: raj (#14)- When I say “step up” I am attempting to underscore the fact that these….situations…are the world’s issues, not just those of the US. To be a world player one has to sometimes stop bickering about fat tourists and McDonalds and realise the severity of terrorist activities.
    You know what? I have failed miserably on just that throughout my life. 10/11 years old and I recall the Iranian hostage crisis (…it is the –th day of captivity… everynight on the news). I was a kid, I did’nt understand the screaming people burning US flags…3 years after the Bicentennial… nor did I understand the eye-bandaged hostages paraded before me on that fake mahogany console tv in my livingroom. Fast forward to 19 yrs. and seeing smiling faces of my contemporaries (college students), in photographs. Because that’s all what was left of them after 103 exploded over Locherbie. Still- I thought it didn’t affect me. I had to fly out the next morning to visit family for Christmas.
    Time went on, life has a way of happpening, then- yes, you guessed it: that Tuesday morning. I won’t go into it, but I will say it hit a little closer to home. And the world became much, so much smaller.
    Again, sorry for the rant. But it would make no difference if instead I wept. G.

  24. ThatGayConservative says

    July 19, 2006 at 2:01 am - July 19, 2006

    And why should any of the EU members bail the US out of its bad choices?

    “Bad choices” B.S. aside, remember that if it wasn’t for the US, Europe would be the Third Reich. I’m sure, however, that you can spin that away just as you spun the fall of the Soviet Union.

  25. rightwingprof says

    July 19, 2006 at 9:18 am - July 19, 2006

    And why would Europe stand up? They didn’t when Hitler was overrunning them. Why would they now? They’ve been castrated.

  26. raj says

    July 19, 2006 at 9:54 am - July 19, 2006

    #25 ThatGayConservative — July 19, 2006 @ 2:01 am – July 19, 2006

    “Bad choices” B.S. aside, remember that if it wasn’t for the US, Europe would be the Third Reich.

    And if it hadn’t been for the Preusse Friedrich Wilhelm von Steuben and the support of the French, you might still be speaking the Queen’s English. I’m sure that you remember von Steuben. He helped organize Washington’s forces into an army, and, as thanks, died pretty much in penury.

    On the other hand, if it hadn’t been for the American insertion into WWI–after which it immediately abandoned the region–it is highly questionable whether there would have been a Third Reich.

  27. raj says

    July 19, 2006 at 11:23 am - July 19, 2006

    #20 Michigan-Matt — July 18, 2006 @ 1:08 pm – July 18, 2006

    BTW, wasn’t it raj baby that was ceaselessly prodding you for your Body Mass Index last week?

    #21 V the K — July 18, 2006 @ 1:14 pm – July 18, 2006

    But it was genuinely creepy the way raj kept demanding that.

    Ah, Tweedledumb and Tweedledumber. Poor Matty and his sockpuppet V the Kow appears to wish to ignore the fact that it was they that brought up the form factor of their opponents that they wish to ridicule. I suppose that it is the form factor that they wish to use, although they are unwilling to provide their own form factors that we could use in return.

    NB: for the uninitiated, such as Matty and V the Kow, “form factor” is an engineering term. If it fits, and works, it’s OK, but, “if it doesn’t fit, you must acquit.”

    Sorry to have to draw you back to reality, bois.

  28. raj says

    July 19, 2006 at 12:45 pm - July 19, 2006

    Michigan-Matt

    BTW, you outed yourself a few comment streams down thread, when you stated that you were a Likudnik Apparatchick. It’s quite evident why you come to Boston several times a year. It’s to meet with your fellow Likudnik
    apparatchick Arthur Finkelstein. You know der Fink: he got the fag-basher Jesse Helms elected. Along with a number of other fag-bashing Republican politicians. All the while living in splendor in Ipswich Massachusetts. The Fink, and you, would sell other gay people to the dogs, as long as y’all would live in splendor.

    It’s now clear. You, like der Fink, and your buddy Jeff Gannon, are nothing but a whore.

    Hey, whatever, don’t pontificate to me any longer.

  29. North Dallas Thirty says

    July 19, 2006 at 1:02 pm - July 19, 2006

    On the other hand, if it hadn’t been for the American insertion into WWI–after which it immediately abandoned the region–it is highly questionable whether there would have been a Third Reich.

    Why? Because the Germans would have won?

  30. North Dallas Thirty says

    July 19, 2006 at 1:04 pm - July 19, 2006

    Oh, and by the way, why so few Ian posts lately? Is Raj hunkering down and hoping that the post exposing Ian as Raj’s sock puppet will just go away?

  31. raj says

    July 19, 2006 at 1:29 pm - July 19, 2006

    #31 North Dallas Thirty — July 19, 2006 @ 1:04 pm – July 19, 2006

    Oh, and by the way, why so few Ian posts lately?

    Why don’t you email Ian and ask him? I’m sure that the webmaster here can give you his IP address.

    And let’s understand something. That’s aside from your many lies and fallacies.

  32. raj says

    July 19, 2006 at 1:33 pm - July 19, 2006

    More stupidity from NDXXX

    30 North Dallas Thirty — July 19, 2006 @ 1:02 pm – July 19, 2006

    Why? Because the Germans would have won?

    The Germans might have won (re WWI) and they might have lost. Other than an inference that you don’t like Germans, including German-Americans, what is it to you which side of that conflict might have won or lost in WWI?

  33. Michigan-Matt says

    July 19, 2006 at 1:53 pm - July 19, 2006

    raj baby, I must say you’ve finally slipped off the cabbage truck. It’s good to know that you have time to comment here instead of rushing into ERs and quizzing patients on liability potentials… but you really need to get out and breathe in some air. You’re positive paranoid and delusional –and it isn’t even after the Republican wins in November!!

    You get more violent in your hate speech with each passing moment.

  34. North Dallas Thirty says

    July 19, 2006 at 3:06 pm - July 19, 2006

    Why don’t you email Ian and ask him? I’m sure that the webmaster here can give you his IP address.

    Well, for starters, IP addresses really only identify the computer being used, not the email account of the person using it.

    Second, Ian never provides an email — not unlike you.

    Third, Ian is, as we have demonstrated, by your own admission, merely one of your sock puppet identities.

    The Germans might have won (re WWI) and they might have lost. Other than an inference that you don’t like Germans, including German-Americans, what is it to you which side of that conflict might have won or lost in WWI?

    Mainly because you’re attempting to argue that the American insertion was directly responsible for creating the Third Reich — not unlike your usual arguments that America is responsible for all the other problems in the world.

    Of course, the reason you stay in it is because it’s also the only country in the world that protects the right of people who want to sit and fling hate speech against it.

  35. Calarato says

    July 19, 2006 at 5:37 pm - July 19, 2006

    “Third, Ian is, as we have demonstrated… merely one of your sock puppet identities…”

    NDT – Thank you for that – and it might be good for you to keep reminding people – I wouldn’t have known, since I’m around less these days.

    The thread you cited (that I have just re-cited) seems to make it obvious. I see now the similarity (not to say identicality) of style and “concerns”, in addition to the very direct mistake/lie you caught raj/Ian in. He/she/it is more of a sickie than I suspected!

  36. V the K says

    July 19, 2006 at 7:49 pm - July 19, 2006

    He/she/it is more of a sickie than I suspected!

    Tell me about it. At least he didn’t spend half a thread begging for your body mass index.

  37. North Dallas Thirty says

    July 19, 2006 at 11:21 pm - July 19, 2006

    I’ll gladly give him mine; it’s 29.6.

    (smiles knowingly at GP, GPW, and others).

  38. Michigan-Matt says

    July 20, 2006 at 6:55 am - July 20, 2006

    NDXXX is that metric or standard? j/k.

  39. raj says

    July 21, 2006 at 9:27 am - July 21, 2006

    #35 North Dallas Thirty — July 19, 2006 @ 3:06 pm – July 19, 2006

    Well, for starters, IP addresses really only identify the computer being used, not the email account of the person using it

    Apparently you are as ignorant of IP addressing–and their relationships to email addresses–as you were concerning human embryo stem cell research issues yesterday at Malcontent. It is possible to obtain email addresses from ISPs based on IP addresses that have been logged on comment threads. And, just to let you know, an email address to yahoo.com, gmail.com, and so forth are about silly for any purposes. And your only email address on your web page is to a yahoo.com internet domain.

    Second, Ian never provides an email — not unlike you.

    Mir wurst. (I’m sure that your buddy Matty can translate that for you). I have explained why I do not provide an email address. I don’t particularly care whether or not you–a proven dissembler–believes it.

    Third, Ian is, as we have demonstrated, by your own admission, merely one of your sock puppet identities.

    Oh, my, another leap at supposition.

    Let’s see. You’re a proven liar. You argue by changing the subject, by using straw men, by rephrasing questions to conform to what you want to respond to, and even by lying.

    I’m not going to continue addressing your comment, because you’re a proven dissembler. (“Dissembler” is a polite word for “liar.”) One who doesn’t even bother linking to the comments that you purport to respond to. And I’m not going to bother going looking for them.

  40. raj says

    July 21, 2006 at 9:36 am - July 21, 2006

    #38 V the stupidKow — July 19, 2006 @ 7:49 pm – July 19, 2006

    Tell me about it. At least he didn’t spend half a thread begging for your body mass index.

    Of course not. Unlike you, Calarato didn’t go on mooing, denigrating other people because of their appearance.

    Calarato appears to be a relative gentleman. A deranged one, but at least a gentleman.

    Note to NDXXX: it’s sweet that you deigned to provide your BMI. I’ll take that under advisement if and when you deign to denigrate someone because of his or her appearance.

  41. North Dallas Thirty says

    July 21, 2006 at 12:34 pm - July 21, 2006

    It is possible to obtain email addresses from ISPs based on IP addresses that have been logged on comment threads.

    Unfortunately, Raj, that’s not what you said before. I quote from #32:

    Why don’t you email Ian and ask him? I’m sure that the webmaster here can give you his IP address.

    I have no doubt that you’ve spent the past two days since I caught you playing sock puppet trying to explain how it is that you and Ian can have the same ISP address without being the same person.

    Of course an Internet service provider (ISP) can provide the email accounts that exist on an ISP based on an IP address; however, GPW is not an ISP administrator. GayPatriot as a website can record hits and the ISP addresses of people who comment; however, he would then have to go ask the ISP for a listing of email addresses associated with that particular IP address. Furthermore, most ISPs will not hand over email addresses without the express written consent of the individual involved, because doing so exposes an individual to spamming and compromises virus protection.

    And, just to let you know, an email address to yahoo.com, gmail.com, and so forth are about silly for any purposes. And your only email address on your web page is to a yahoo.com internet domain.

    That of course explains why so many people use them, although I believe it has more to do with them being inexpensive (or free), easy to access from anywhere with an Internet connection, secure (they do automatically scan messages for viruses, you know, using the most updated versions), and able to store enormous amounts of information.

    You’re just playing for excuses and waffling. If those are so silly, then there would be no harm in you providing one. But instead, like the coward you are, you cringe and hide.

  42. North Dallas Thirty says

    July 21, 2006 at 7:07 pm - July 21, 2006

    Note to NDXXX: it’s sweet that you deigned to provide your BMI. I’ll take that under advisement if and when you deign to denigrate someone because of his or her appearance.

    Why wait? Go ahead and try it.

  43. raj says

    July 23, 2006 at 8:54 am - July 23, 2006

    #42 North Dallas Thirty — July 21, 2006 @ 12:34 pm – July 21, 2006

    Although I could, I’m not going to bother taking the time to lecture you on the Internet Protocol (IP), IP addresses, ISPs and Email addresses. Given the facts that you were thoroughly smacked down in the human embryo stem cell research thread over at Malcontent–and that you were completely unable to recognize that you were thoroughly smacked down–it would be a waste of time for me to do so here.

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