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		<title>By: sev</title>
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		<dc:creator>sev</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Jul 2006 01:52:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well israel is missing a whole lot of targets arent they now that they managed to kill more than 300 civillians.

they are quite a lousy army i feel and quite a waste of us investment in hardware when they can be taken down by a ragtag army of guerrillas. but then so has the us.

and as far as the saudi government they are even worth the shit off the ground</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well israel is missing a whole lot of targets arent they now that they managed to kill more than 300 civillians.</p>
<p>they are quite a lousy army i feel and quite a waste of us investment in hardware when they can be taken down by a ragtag army of guerrillas. but then so has the us.</p>
<p>and as far as the saudi government they are even worth the shit off the ground</p>
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		<title>By: lester</title>
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		<dc:creator>lester</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Jul 2006 17:41:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>trace-  I&#039;m trying to prevent another 9/11.  We are a republic not and empire.  Rome fell when it crossed the rubicon.  That&#039;s what 9/11 was.  I almost lost two members of my family in that thing.  I&#039;ll say what I want.

    Islam is an empire.  You can&#039;t go into Somalia or Darfur anymore than you could have gone into red square in Stalins time and handed out &quot;aid&quot;.    I know what islam is and I know it isn&#039;t compatiable with America.  that&#039;s why I say we get out of there lock stock and barrel.  and with a couple of our tax dollars.  war IS big government.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>trace-  I&#8217;m trying to prevent another 9/11.  We are a republic not and empire.  Rome fell when it crossed the rubicon.  That&#8217;s what 9/11 was.  I almost lost two members of my family in that thing.  I&#8217;ll say what I want.</p>
<p>    Islam is an empire.  You can&#8217;t go into Somalia or Darfur anymore than you could have gone into red square in Stalins time and handed out &#8220;aid&#8221;.    I know what islam is and I know it isn&#8217;t compatiable with America.  that&#8217;s why I say we get out of there lock stock and barrel.  and with a couple of our tax dollars.  war IS big government.</p>
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		<title>By: raj</title>
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		<dc:creator>raj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Jul 2006 12:18:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#28 Peter Hughes — July 20, 2006 @ 5:17 pm - July 20, 2006

&lt;i&gt;Murdoch still owns Sky News, which is the Fox News equivalent in the UK.&lt;/i&gt;

Unless it changed since they last carried Sky News on Munich cable, Sky News is hardly similar to Faux News in the US.

When we&#039;re in Munich, I don&#039;t pay attention to cable TV, except for Euronews (euronews.net) and n-tv.  Sky News was dropped a number of years ago.  They do carry CNN, but out of their studios in the UK.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#28 Peter Hughes — July 20, 2006 @ 5:17 pm &#8211; July 20, 2006</p>
<p><i>Murdoch still owns Sky News, which is the Fox News equivalent in the UK.</i></p>
<p>Unless it changed since they last carried Sky News on Munich cable, Sky News is hardly similar to Faux News in the US.</p>
<p>When we&#8217;re in Munich, I don&#8217;t pay attention to cable TV, except for Euronews (euronews.net) and n-tv.  Sky News was dropped a number of years ago.  They do carry CNN, but out of their studios in the UK.</p>
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		<title>By: Trace Phelps</title>
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		<dc:creator>Trace Phelps</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Jul 2006 04:00:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lester, in number 12, proves he&#039;s become our resident imam.

Out of respect for those who died in New York, Virginia and Pennsylvania on 9/11, in Madrid on 3/11 and in Loncon on 7/7 Bruce and Dan ought to delete imam lester&#039;s Islamic crap.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lester, in number 12, proves he&#8217;s become our resident imam.</p>
<p>Out of respect for those who died in New York, Virginia and Pennsylvania on 9/11, in Madrid on 3/11 and in Loncon on 7/7 Bruce and Dan ought to delete imam lester&#8217;s Islamic crap.</p>
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		<title>By: anon</title>
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		<dc:creator>anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Jul 2006 02:33:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gene Healy gets at what I find is the main distinction between neoconservatives and real conservatives or classical liberals:

&quot;The current squawking also strikes me as a useful reminder of how very, very important war is in the neoconservative vision. It is as central to that vision as peace is to the classical liberal vision ... Who we&#039;re fighting is secondary. That we&#039;re fighting is the main thing. To be a neoconservative is to thrill to the sound of gunfire. (From a nice, safe distance, generally.),&quot;

http://www.cato-at-liberty.org/2006/07/19/war-without-end/

I don’t know if PJM founder Roger Simon was a red diaper baby, but Bruce Kovner sure was. See “George Soros&#039;s Right-Wing Twin - The Most Powerful New Yorker You&#039;ve Never Heard Of,” by Philip Weiss (New York Magazine, August 8, 2005)

http://www.newyorkmetro.com/nymetro/news/people/features/12353/index.html

And picking up on the theme of gunfire from a safe distance, we’ve got Max Kampelman. His conscientious objector status during the war against Hitler was obtained for him by Evron Kirkpatrick, husband of Jeane.

Dan, were you a red diaper baby?

Lester: Russell Kirk was most definately not a neo-conservative. They hate him! He believes in small government and local control.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gene Healy gets at what I find is the main distinction between neoconservatives and real conservatives or classical liberals:</p>
<p>&#8220;The current squawking also strikes me as a useful reminder of how very, very important war is in the neoconservative vision. It is as central to that vision as peace is to the classical liberal vision &#8230; Who we&#8217;re fighting is secondary. That we&#8217;re fighting is the main thing. To be a neoconservative is to thrill to the sound of gunfire. (From a nice, safe distance, generally.),&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.cato-at-liberty.org/2006/07/19/war-without-end/" rel="nofollow">http://www.cato-at-liberty.org/2006/07/19/war-without-end/</a></p>
<p>I don’t know if PJM founder Roger Simon was a red diaper baby, but Bruce Kovner sure was. See “George Soros&#8217;s Right-Wing Twin &#8211; The Most Powerful New Yorker You&#8217;ve Never Heard Of,” by Philip Weiss (New York Magazine, August 8, 2005)</p>
<p><a href="http://www.newyorkmetro.com/nymetro/news/people/features/12353/index.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.newyorkmetro.com/nymetro/news/people/features/12353/index.html</a></p>
<p>And picking up on the theme of gunfire from a safe distance, we’ve got Max Kampelman. His conscientious objector status during the war against Hitler was obtained for him by Evron Kirkpatrick, husband of Jeane.</p>
<p>Dan, were you a red diaper baby?</p>
<p>Lester: Russell Kirk was most definately not a neo-conservative. They hate him! He believes in small government and local control.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Hughes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Hughes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jul 2006 21:17:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Murdoch still owns Sky News, which is the Fox News equivalent in the UK.  Which is another reason why BBC viewership is diminishing by leaps and bounds, the last time I checked.

Regards,
Peter H.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Murdoch still owns Sky News, which is the Fox News equivalent in the UK.  Which is another reason why BBC viewership is diminishing by leaps and bounds, the last time I checked.</p>
<p>Regards,<br />
Peter H.</p>
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		<title>By: V the K</title>
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		<dc:creator>V the K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jul 2006 21:05:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;I don’t watch Faux News, so I don’t know who they expect their audience to be. &lt;/i&gt;

Yeah, but utter and complete ignorance of a topic has never stopped you from expressing an opinion about it in the past.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I don’t watch Faux News, so I don’t know who they expect their audience to be. </i></p>
<p>Yeah, but utter and complete ignorance of a topic has never stopped you from expressing an opinion about it in the past.</p>
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		<title>By: raj</title>
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		<dc:creator>raj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jul 2006 20:59:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Irving Kristol, the father of not only the comedian Billy Kristol, but also of neo-conservatism, was definitely a Trotskyite.  No question about that.

What&#039;s amusing is that Rupert Murdoch, the Australian media mogul, is sponsoring their publication activities in the US, while at the same time sponsoring the Fox TV channel and the FX cable channel, both of which would be anathema to the Faux news crowd, a couple of tittie publications in the UK and so forth.  Murdoch used to sponsor Sky TV, which was also sent into Germany over cable, but that seems to have gone by the waywide.

What&#039;s amusing is that the Faux News sycophants seem to swear by their evening line-up.  I just wonder, though, just what is their demographic.  They get a lot of talking-about, but who are they pitching to?  You can usually tell by the nature of the commercials that they carry--Nexium, the purple pill?  I don&#039;t watch Faux News, so I don&#039;t know who they expect their audience to be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Irving Kristol, the father of not only the comedian Billy Kristol, but also of neo-conservatism, was definitely a Trotskyite.  No question about that.</p>
<p>What&#8217;s amusing is that Rupert Murdoch, the Australian media mogul, is sponsoring their publication activities in the US, while at the same time sponsoring the Fox TV channel and the FX cable channel, both of which would be anathema to the Faux news crowd, a couple of tittie publications in the UK and so forth.  Murdoch used to sponsor Sky TV, which was also sent into Germany over cable, but that seems to have gone by the waywide.</p>
<p>What&#8217;s amusing is that the Faux News sycophants seem to swear by their evening line-up.  I just wonder, though, just what is their demographic.  They get a lot of talking-about, but who are they pitching to?  You can usually tell by the nature of the commercials that they carry&#8211;Nexium, the purple pill?  I don&#8217;t watch Faux News, so I don&#8217;t know who they expect their audience to be.</p>
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		<title>By: lester</title>
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		<dc:creator>lester</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jul 2006 19:58:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>v to the k-  more like perpetual revolution and international hegemony via the super state.  less &quot;ex&quot; than calorato might think.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>v to the k-  more like perpetual revolution and international hegemony via the super state.  less &#8220;ex&#8221; than calorato might think.</p>
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		<title>By: V the K</title>
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		<dc:creator>V the K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jul 2006 19:20:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I must have missed the meeting where Paul Wolfowitz declared the need to collectivize agriculture and denounce parasites to the local kommissarr.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I must have missed the meeting where Paul Wolfowitz declared the need to collectivize agriculture and denounce parasites to the local kommissarr.</p>
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		<title>By: Calarato</title>
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		<dc:creator>Calarato</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jul 2006 18:58:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>P.S. It&#039;s true that some neo-cons are EX-60s liberals and (certainly in the case of David Horowitz and others) EX-communists.

Operative word EX.  (Except in backwards-land where &quot;ex&quot; actually means &quot;current&quot;.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>P.S. It&#8217;s true that some neo-cons are EX-60s liberals and (certainly in the case of David Horowitz and others) EX-communists.</p>
<p>Operative word EX.  (Except in backwards-land where &#8220;ex&#8221; actually means &#8220;current&#8221;.)</p>
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		<title>By: Calarato</title>
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		<dc:creator>Calarato</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jul 2006 18:56:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>... in backwards-land where &quot;communist&quot; means &quot;capitalist democrat&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230; in backwards-land where &#8220;communist&#8221; means &#8220;capitalist democrat&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: lester</title>
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		<dc:creator>lester</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jul 2006 18:03:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>v to the k-  I&#039;m not a socialist.  I just got through pounding on the neo cons for being communist.  which they absolutely are to the hilt.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>v to the k-  I&#8217;m not a socialist.  I just got through pounding on the neo cons for being communist.  which they absolutely are to the hilt.</p>
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		<title>By: V the K</title>
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		<dc:creator>V the K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jul 2006 14:59:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3278919,00.html&quot;&gt;lester&#039;s ideological blood-brother: Spanish PM Zapatero&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3278919,00.html">lester&#8217;s ideological blood-brother: Spanish PM Zapatero</a></p>
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		<title>By: V the K</title>
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		<dc:creator>V the K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jul 2006 00:45:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As someone smarter than me put it, the difference between Israelis and Hisbullah is that when Israelis kill civilian, it&#039;s because they missed their target. When Hisbullah kills civilians, it&#039;s because they hit their target.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As someone smarter than me put it, the difference between Israelis and Hisbullah is that when Israelis kill civilian, it&#8217;s because they missed their target. When Hisbullah kills civilians, it&#8217;s because they hit their target.</p>
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		<title>By: Michigan-Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michigan-Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jul 2006 00:36:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lester, were you talking to ME?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lester, were you talking to ME?</p>
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		<title>By: lester</title>
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		<dc:creator>lester</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Jul 2006 23:11:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>dan-  google &quot;neo con trotsky &quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dan-  google &#8220;neo con trotsky &#8220;</p>
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		<title>By: lester</title>
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		<dc:creator>lester</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Jul 2006 20:42:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>none of those people you named are conservatives.  they are trotsky worshipping neo cons, hence their anti conservative beliefs in big government and wars of choice.

[&lt;i&gt;Your assumption that neo cons worship Trotsky proves how little you know about this political philosophy.  --Dan&lt;/i&gt;]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>none of those people you named are conservatives.  they are trotsky worshipping neo cons, hence their anti conservative beliefs in big government and wars of choice.</p>
<p>[<i>Your assumption that neo cons worship Trotsky proves how little you know about this political philosophy.  --Dan</i>]</p>
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		<title>By: Michigan-Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michigan-Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Jul 2006 20:18:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>VdaK, of course NDXXX is right about the real motives behind the radicalLeft trying to spin anything away from their party&#039;s failure to embrace the Middle East&#039;s only functional democracy.  How many PLO flags does one see at a union rally in the states, an immigrant rally, a go-green rally and --the bottom of the barrel-- an anti-war rally?  There are usually right next to the GayPride flags.

The ReliRight isn&#039;t responsible for turning conservatives nor the GOP toward a pro-Israeli position... to think otherwise is utter bunk.  I can&#039;t believe how the failed GayLeft continues to elevate the role of the ReliRight in all things --as if to smear anything they can by projecting an alliance with something religious.  Bunk from the bigots.

Conservatives like Buckley, Russell Kirk, Jeanne Kirkpatrick, Rumsfeld, Cheney and others have supported Israel out of an understanding that a strong democracy in the region is to our advantage.  Last time I checked, our country&#039;s tab in aid to Israel topped $6.7b.

It&#039;s only when the Democrats come into office that America begins to put pressure on Israel to moderate its standing and &quot;improve&quot; relations with arabs (meaning give away strategic land)... and then invites murderous thugs like Arafat to dinner at the WH.  Gheesh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>VdaK, of course NDXXX is right about the real motives behind the radicalLeft trying to spin anything away from their party&#8217;s failure to embrace the Middle East&#8217;s only functional democracy.  How many PLO flags does one see at a union rally in the states, an immigrant rally, a go-green rally and &#8211;the bottom of the barrel&#8211; an anti-war rally?  There are usually right next to the GayPride flags.</p>
<p>The ReliRight isn&#8217;t responsible for turning conservatives nor the GOP toward a pro-Israeli position&#8230; to think otherwise is utter bunk.  I can&#8217;t believe how the failed GayLeft continues to elevate the role of the ReliRight in all things &#8211;as if to smear anything they can by projecting an alliance with something religious.  Bunk from the bigots.</p>
<p>Conservatives like Buckley, Russell Kirk, Jeanne Kirkpatrick, Rumsfeld, Cheney and others have supported Israel out of an understanding that a strong democracy in the region is to our advantage.  Last time I checked, our country&#8217;s tab in aid to Israel topped $6.7b.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s only when the Democrats come into office that America begins to put pressure on Israel to moderate its standing and &#8220;improve&#8221; relations with arabs (meaning give away strategic land)&#8230; and then invites murderous thugs like Arafat to dinner at the WH.  Gheesh.</p>
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		<title>By: lester</title>
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		<dc:creator>lester</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Jul 2006 17:16:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>anon- michael totten, my all time least favorite journalist, actually had to close down the comments part of his blog because he dared insult his zionist benafactors by lamenting the destruction of his former beirut neighborhood by israeli missiles.  He&#039; probably at Gitmo by now</description>
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