Facts. Dates. They are difficult to evade.

Are you suggesting that ABC News got its info from WorldNetDaily? LMAO…

Here is the Matthew Shepard/Meth story where it first appeared, on ABC News. (Emphasis added)

So, let me understand this. You believe that November 26, 2004, the date of the ABC “news” article that you linked to, is prior to November 14, 2004, the date of the WorldNutDaily article that I had linked to. Interesting.

I suppose you also believe that up is down, left is right, and backwards is forwards. Correct? And, I presume, the sun rises in the west and sets in the east.

So even someone in the past did use WorldNetDaily as a source (I’m not saying they actually did), anyone attempting to refute the story would have had to go to the ABC story anyway.

Here is the Matthew Shepard/Meth story where it first appeared, on ABC News.

Please sign the “Return Receipt Requested” form… thanks.

Guilty until proven innocent.

There is Raj’s method, exposed.

Never admit you were wrong –even on little items. Add lies to the intellectual injury and smears. Seek to redirect and misdirect the focus away from your baseless allegations back onto the smeared target.

Gosh, raj, those are some rules. Thanks for putting them in practice on yet another web site. I hope they get you banned again.

The truth is I did provide you with proof of my source on the Shepard/meth fact; you just continue to ignore it or try to redirection attention away from your own responsibility to conduct yourself in a civil, decent manner.

Now, stay on task and focus. The words are sorry, apologize, forgive ole’ raj.

To me. To Bruce for calling him a liar and then presuming to suggest he might use your email for untoward or dishonest purpose. To VdaK for a lot of abuse.

Stay on task, raj. Focus.

raj, the community here is awaiting your clear proof you hold: 1) of VdaK being a sockpuppet or me being his sockpuppet; 2) I read WorldNetDaily regularly and my comments here prove it; 3) and that you were wrong about the Shepard/meth connection.

Don’t hold your breath.

Re (1) do you really believe that I am going to afford you and V the K the courtesy that you and you cohorts here refuse to afford me? If so, you are sadly mistaken. You and your buddies claim that Ian and I are sockpuppets without any evidence, and you object to my claim that you and V the K are sockpuppets? Get your foot out of your mouth.

Let’s look at the evidence. You and your cohorts claim that Ian and I are sockpuppets based on–what? The fact that we post similar ideas on similar topics? Oh, my goodness–if that were the only touchstone for sock-puppetry, you, V the K, NDXXX, Peter, Calarato, RightWingProf, and many others here would be sock puppets.

No, regarding you and V the K goes a bit further than that. You and he (presuming there is another “he”) co-authored a series of blog entries on the same subject matter. In a recent comment, V the K admitted that he had resided in Michigan, apparently for an extended period of time–one presumes that you “Michigan-Matt” also live–or lived–in Michigan. You and he pipe up almost simultaneously to support each other. Sock-puppet? You tell me.

But that is irrespective of the fact that you want to mow-mow me into kow-towing to you on an issue that of courtesy that you are unwilling to grant to me. Sorry civil discourse (“new commenting rules”) doesn’t work quite like that.

Re (2), sorry, dear. I cited a prominent right-wing source for your and V the K’s comments on two topics, which you and “V the K” posted on within less than a week. You could have denied that WorldNutDaily was the source of your information, and you could have provided an alternative source but you didn’t. I could have done better than you and he in that regard, but the fact is that you did not even bother to post to an alternate source.

Re (3) I’m not going to admit to anything about your supposed “Shepard/meth connection” because you haven’t posted any citation to any credible source that might substantiate that.

Grow up.

Stay on task.

And Kevin: the word is “sorry” but direct to Bruce for you hasty and inaccurate assessment of the use of his red pen.

When Is A Hate Crime Really Terrorism?

I guess when it is carried out by a baptized Christian.

Shooting suspect was baptized

/sarcasm

Let’s understand something. Crazy people do crazy things, whether or not they are terrorists, whether or not the are Muslims, and whether or not they are Christians. This guy was crazy. John Salvi was crazy. The guy in CA who was associated with the World Church of the Redeemer, and who killed a few people, was crazy. Tim McVeigh was crazy. Eric Frank Rudolph (another self-professed Christian) was crazy–although he probably evaded capture for so long because he was assisted by like-minded crazy self-professed Christians.

And your attempt to pin the Washington State attack on terrorism is also crazy.

Your continuing unwillingness to cite your source gives you away.

You could, of course, say “I don’t remember where I got that silliness from.” I probably wouldn’t believe it if you said it, but you could say that. Two times to stories prominently displayed on WorldNutDaily in less than a week is just too much coincidence.

I’d almost be willing to root around FreeRepublic.com to find other possible sources for your information, but I would not want to soil myself.

Where does he practice law, anyway? Cuba?

Awful lot of silence over on the far radical GayLeft, raj.

Kevin: I think you could lead the way by admiting your were wrong about the manner in which Bruce has been deleting comments –both VdaK and I have felt the red pen… it wasn’t just raj as you contended.

Try to say “Sorry Bruce. I was wrong.” Don’t wait for raj to teach you. Or Gramps. They don’t do apologies –they just move on to new allegations, distortions and spin.