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Shia Death Squads Targeting Gays in Iraq

Hat tip: GP reader Tom who spotted this item at The Corner at NRO.

Gays Flee Iraq as Shia Death Squads Find A New Target – Guardian

Hardline Islamic insurgent groups in Iraq are targeting a new type of victim with the full protection of Iraqi law, The Observer can reveal. The country is seeing a sudden escalation of brutal attacks on what are being called the ‘immorals’ – homosexual men and children as young as 11 who have been forced into same-sex prostitution. There is growing evidence that Shia militias have been killing men suspected of being gay and children who have been sold to criminal gangs to be sexually abused.

Eleven-year-old Ameer Hasoon al-Hasani was kidnapped by policemen from the front of his house last month. He was known in his district to have been forced into prostitution. His father Hassan told me he searched for his son for three days after his abduction, then found him, shot in the head.

A copy of the death certificate confirms the cause of death…Graphic photos obtained from Baghdad sources too frightened to identify themselves as having known a gay man, and seen by the Observer, show other gay Iraqis who have been executed. One shows two men, suspected of having a relationship, blindfolded with their hands tied behind their backs – guns at the ready behind their heads – awaiting execution. Another picture captured on a mobile phone shows a gay man being beaten to death. Yet another shows a corpse being dragged through the streets after his execution.

Homosexuality is seen as so immoral that it qualifies as an ‘honour killing’ to murder someone who is gay – and the perpetrator can escape punishment. Section 111 of Iraq’s penal code lays out protections for murder when people are acting against Islam.

GP Reader Tom says:

Our liberal friends, who seem to think the US is intolerant of gay people could use the reminder of what much of the rest of the world is like, and is just one more reason why we need to fight the war against Islamic fascism to win.

Agreed.  The boogeyman is not in the USA, it is a movement of Islamic fascists that want to conquer freedom and KILL YOU for being you.

Of course it is quite disturbing that these death squads are using Iraqi law to escape their systematic murders.  But as Tom suggests, this is a good, if disturbing, look into the enemy we are fighting in World War III.  No different than the treatment of gays in Iran and Taliban-run Afghanistan.

-Bruce (GayPatriot)

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  1. So I guess we can now all agree,
    With Sadam, 1000’s (at least) killed out of dictoral rule
    Without Sadam 1000’s (at least) killed out of sectarian/Islamist violence
    It is now obvious to everyone who is not an American Righty Deadender, that Iraq is not better off.
    Its a wash.
    Going forward, what is the answer?
    Israel is proving that war cannot stop a terrorist organization.
    Isolation has not stoped Syria and Iran.
    Occuaption has failed (Iraq)
    The only answer is the following:
    Engage Hamas, Hezbela and yes, even Al Queida
    Recognize them, give them a stake in security and over time they will moderate.
    Look at how it worked with the IRA.
    (Lots of spelling mistakes, sorry)

    Comment by keogh — August 7, 2006 @ 2:10 pm - August 7, 2006

  2. But the Christianists have concentration camps set up here in the US!

    Comment by rightwingprof — August 7, 2006 @ 3:20 pm - August 7, 2006

  3. Oh, let me guess… The anti-gay pogrom in Iraq is Clinton’s fault.

    Comment by vaara — August 7, 2006 @ 3:26 pm - August 7, 2006

  4. Actually, Keogh, what finally broke the IRA was when the world made it clear that their violence would no longer be tolerated and that they could either cooperate or be expelled, hunted down, and destroyed.

    As for Israel, you may pontificate about how “war cannot stop a terrorist organization”; however, what the example of Hizbollah proves is that peace allows one to flourish, re-arm itself more heavily, and place weapons in civilian areas — then attack.

    Next, you think Syria and Iran are isolated? The only entity in the world that doesn’t trade or have full-bore diplomatic relationships with them is the United States. The EU, China, and Russia all do, mainly because Syria and Iran have taken Saddam Hussein’s example to heart; no matter what you do, all of the aforementioned parties can be bribed into cooperating with oil and purchases of military equipment, all of which enriches their respective governments and government bureaucrats.

    As for Iraq, you and yours may continue to argue that life under Saddam Hussein was preferable. I for one infinitely disagree.

    Comment by North Dallas Thirty — August 7, 2006 @ 3:49 pm - August 7, 2006

  5. I didn’t say preferable, I said its a wash.
    Try not to paint people in your predetermined corners.

    I think you are wrong about the IRA.
    Their political wing became stronger than their military wing through consensus and they became engaged in the process.
    The brits tried to hunt down and destroy for decades but they failed.
    (And they used some grusome tactitics but still failed)
    Only when they engaged and gave the IRA’s political wing standing did they get anwhere.
    We must copy their model and give the political wings of Hamas and Hezbolla political standing.
    Once they have standing they have a stake in the process then peace comes.
    If we try it we win.
    Israel have proved even by crusing military victories, they still loose.
    The same is happening in Iraq. We will loose if we try to win with our current strategy.
    Engage them!

    Comment by keogh — August 7, 2006 @ 4:02 pm - August 7, 2006

  6. This is a grave problem which saddens me tremendously. Unfortunately, the US will do nothing about it and many refugees and those attempting to flee are seeking refuge in Europe. There is an organization that seeks to help these men and women help themselves.

    http://www.pglo.net

    is the web site for more information.

    If I believed in God, I would say, “God help them.”

    Comment by DanielFTL — August 7, 2006 @ 4:05 pm - August 7, 2006

  7. Don’t kid yourselves. The Shia death squads are doing in Iraq exactly what the Republicans would be doing in the U.S. if they thought for one moment that they could get away with it.

    Think about it… who set up the government in Iraq?

    Comment by Len — August 7, 2006 @ 4:47 pm - August 7, 2006

  8. Len:

    Yup.

    Comment by vaara — August 7, 2006 @ 5:13 pm - August 7, 2006

  9. I didn’t say preferable, I said its a wash.
    Try not to paint people in your predetermined corners.

    Oh no, you thought it was preferable.

    Why? Because you and your fellow lefties didn’t do anything about it. Indeed, you actually hid Saddam’s atrocities in the name of “dealing peace”, despite the fact that doing so only had the net effect of perpetuating him in power.

    Those who vote to maintain the status quo of a brutal dictator quite obviously prefer him to any other option.

    Only when they engaged and gave the IRA’s political wing standing did they get anwhere.

    Mhm. And that engagement took place only after the IRA agreed to a ceasefire, under intense pressure and condemnation from the outside world after the Remembrance Day killings, and to recognize the legitimacy of the Northern Ireland government.

    When your pet terrorists will agree to a similar all-encompassing ceasefire and disarmament, as well as recognition of both the state of Israel and existing Middle Eastern governments as legitimate, then they will be allowed to engage.

    Until then, they have made it clear that they will accept nothing less than the complete destruction of Israel, the murder of all Jews, and the removal of the “Great Satan”, the United States.

    None of those is an allowable concession.

    Comment by North Dallas Thirty — August 7, 2006 @ 6:48 pm - August 7, 2006

  10. and the Bush family’s oil buddies continue to engorge themselves on cash from breaking the backs of working Americans – charging higher prices for oil products and making the biggest profits in history (without any evidence that all these profits are being poured back into their companies). All a fabulous bi-product of terrorist misery. Way to go USA!

    Comment by Kevin — August 7, 2006 @ 10:36 pm - August 7, 2006

  11. LOL….Kevin, you whine about how high gas prices are hurting working Americans, but we know full well that, if you had your way, you’d repeal the Bush tax cuts and raise taxes on them by thousands of dollars.

    If people are worried about the high price of gas, they can buy less. Indeed, until a few months ago, the dream of leftists like yourself was to punish Americans who drove more by putting higher surtaxes on gasoline at the pump.

    But go right ahead and keep pointing out how Democrats hate corporations and want to punish people who make profits. It does wonders for you in the business community, and it points out, given the number of multimillionaire Democrats, your complete hypocrisy on the matter.

    Comment by North Dallas Thirty — August 7, 2006 @ 11:49 pm - August 7, 2006

  12. #1 & #5 I think that you should start your engagement campaign with the Fred Phelps sect. Negotiate, compromise, reason and they will moderate. If you work really hard their signs will change from “God Hates Fags” to “God is Miffed at our GLBT Brothers & Sisters”. Perhaps you should donate money to the Phelps for Congress Victory Fund. As soon as he is elected to Congress and suitably empowered, he’ll sponsor a fabulous float in the Pride Parade!

    Comment by BoBo — August 8, 2006 @ 12:08 am - August 8, 2006

  13. “GP reader Tom” (from the post) is arguing using the fallacy of relative deprivation, namely, that gay people in the US should be grateful for what the straights deign to grant them (although in some states, straights don’t even grant them that) because life is arguably better for gay people in the US than it is now for gay people in, say Iraq.

    I’m not exactly sure what that “argument” is supposed to prove. Is it supposed to prove that gay people in the US should feel grateful for the crumbs that straight people in the US might throw their way? It certainly doesn’t prove that gay people in Iraq, post Shrub’s invasion, has gotten better for gay people in Iraq. That would be demonstrably incorrect. Gay Iraqis fear for their lives

    Comment by raj — August 8, 2006 @ 7:32 am - August 8, 2006

  14. #4 North Dallas Thirty — August 7, 2006 @ 3:49 pm – August 7, 2006

    Actually, Keogh, what finally broke the IRA was when the world made it clear that their violence would no longer be tolerated and that they could either cooperate or be expelled, hunted down, and destroyed.

    Not really. What finally broke the Provisional IRA in Northern Ireland were the facts that their political wing, Sein Fein and its leader Gerry Adams had been brought into the political process in Northern Ireland, the Republic of Ireland (Eire) pretty much made it clear that they were opposed to continuing violence in Northern Ireland (it was bad for business in Eire, after all), and Ian Paisley, the head of the anti-PIRA and anti-Catholic Unionists, had become viewed in Northern Ireland as being something of a doddering old fool. Plus exhaustion of the few combatants who were actually involved in combat on either side. There were a couple of other reasons that added to the mix, but those were the main ones.

    Comment by raj — August 8, 2006 @ 7:39 am - August 8, 2006

  15. Best bumpersticker I’ve seen this year:

    “Kill Babies, Not Terrorists. . . . VOTE DEMOCRAT”

    Bravely parked near DC’s fruit loop. aka Dupont Circle.

    Someone is either a performance artist or just really cheeky. Either way I hope they received and NEA grant for THAT.

    Comment by Patrick — August 8, 2006 @ 10:35 am - August 8, 2006

  16. Anyone who can use “moral relativism” as an argument in this issue is borderline autistic. And anyone who thinks that what is happening to gays in an Islamic regime COULD happen here in the right circumstances definitely qualifies as a certified nutjob and self-loathing idiot.

    For starters – since we’re discussing the impossible here – who doesn’t think the NYT, CNN, WaPo, LATimes and other MSM outlets wouldn’t run to “expose” what they perceived as “gay concentration camps” run somewhere in Montana or Wyoming or other remote area? They sure as hell aren’t shy about revealing any other “state secrets.” Let’s not forget the so-called “Muslim camps” during the Bosnian war that were documented…and later turned out to be fake…

    Secondly – who among us would voluntarily be relocated to an American version of Dachau? Would you meekly board a closed cattle car for destination unknown? Or would you be a man and fight for your right to live your life, maybe even dying in the process? (Remember, you can’t run to the UN for help, and you can’t call in the French.)

    Illustrating the absurd is one way of neutralizing it.

    And speaking as someone who lost relatives to the Nazis during WWII in Europe, you had better THINK about citing moral relativism to me when making these false comparisons.

    Hypocrisy, thy name is liberalism.

    Regards,
    Peter H.

    Comment by Peter Hughes — August 8, 2006 @ 10:49 am - August 8, 2006

  17. Anyone who can use “moral relativism” as an argument in this issue is borderline autistic. And anyone who thinks that what is happening to gays in an Islamic regime COULD happen here in the right circumstances definitely qualifies as a certified nutjob and self-loathing idiot.

    While its unlikely to happen again here in the US, it certainly happened in the past. The penalty for sodomy in many states was the death penalty, as it was in the military. In fact George Washington hanged some men in the Continental army for the “crime”.

    And NDT, come on, there is something wrong with our program in Iraq when its a fact that under Saddam’s rule, women, gays, Christians, and more secular people were on average actually safer on an everyday basis than they are today. Women were not being shot on the street for not wearing a veil. They were not denied access to the workforce.

    While I supported the ouster of Saddam, I just don’t see how you can claim such a bright rosy picture of Iraq. The USA fucked this country up royally. We have not created a Mideast democracy, we have created another Iran. We can’t pull out of course, we took responsibility for the country the moment we crossed its borders. But its not going to get better in Iraq until there is regime change in DC.

    But feel free to go right on sucking Bush #$#@ until you are blue in the face NDT.

    Comment by Patrick (Gryph) — August 8, 2006 @ 11:20 am - August 8, 2006

  18. Gramps, please cite sources for your claims regarding sodomy statutes. Here in Texas, the case that became Lawrence v. Texas started with a sodomy charge, which here was a MISDEMEANOR, not a FELONY.

    If you can show actual proof that sodomy was a capital punishment anywhere in the USA, complete with actual executions, then I’ll believe you.

    Regards,
    Peter H.

    Comment by Peter Hughes — August 8, 2006 @ 11:23 am - August 8, 2006

  19. You have an absolute gift for self-contradictory rhetoric, Gryph.

    Example:

    And NDT, come on, there is something wrong with our program in Iraq when its a fact that under Saddam’s rule, women, gays, Christians, and more secular people were on average actually safer on an everyday basis than they are today. Women were not being shot on the street for not wearing a veil. They were not denied access to the workforce.

    But then you make this statement:

    While I supported the ouster of Saddam, I just don’t see how you can claim such a bright rosy picture of Iraq.

    Why did you support the ouster of Saddam then, if you claim that things were safer for “women, gays, Christians, and more secular people” when he was ruler?

    Maybe because you knew that, under Saddam, women and others were being shot on the street for making inopportune statements, for being Shi’a or another non-Sunni majority, for protesting their sons being conscripted, for not paying due homage to Saddam’s image, and because their husband’s second cousin had allegedly made plans to assassinate Saddam.

    But like a good leftist, you assume that most Americans don’t know what life was like under Saddam, mainly because your media outlets openly lied about it in order to preserve “access” (and also to not embarrass the feckless Clinton appeasement process and corrupt UN bureaucrats).

    Comment by North Dallas Thirty — August 8, 2006 @ 12:32 pm - August 8, 2006

  20. Someone asked for citations about sodomy laws. I did not search through every state for the punishment or actual executions, but this web site is very informative about sodomy laws around the country:

    http://www.sodomylaws.org

    DR

    Comment by DanielFTL — August 8, 2006 @ 12:53 pm - August 8, 2006

  21. NDT,
    You obviously are looseing the ability to comprehend the English Language.
    Why do I say that?
    Because even though I say that life in Iraq is just as bad now as it was under Sadam, you still say I feel Sadam is preferable.
    People like you are completely fanatical.
    You don’t use your brain to find the truth and you can’t see the facts as they are.
    Instead you run to your labels and predetermined painted corners
    Just because I say something, you automatically want me in your little labeled drawer.
    I said its a wash and you should take my word that I believe that.
    Period.
    So open your eyes. See that our attempt to fight fire with fire has failed.
    Just as Israel’s attempt has.
    Even if we open up and attack all of our enemies at once, China, Russia, Iran, Syria, Sudan, Venezuela, France(?), Etc. Etc Etc.
    We would probably still loose.
    Its not “politics” or a “side” its fact.
    Its time for a new track, “political engagement”
    If you give the outsiders a door to the inside, they may take it, begin to have a stake in the process, and peace is the finial outcome.

    Comment by keogh — August 8, 2006 @ 3:00 pm - August 8, 2006

  22. The film on which this original post is based is now available via something called More4 News. They even have a quote from Gay Patriot.

    Comment by Tyrce23 — August 8, 2006 @ 5:20 pm - August 8, 2006

  23. Patrick with insight offers at #15: “Best bumpersticker I’ve seen this year: “Kill Babies, Not Terrorists. . . . VOTE DEMOCRAT”

    It does deserve an NEA grant and an honorable mention in the American Library Assn’s Hall of Memories. That sticker nails it. Bravo.

    It’s like al Jazeera printing bumber stickers that say “Support al-Qaeda; vote Democrat”.

    Comment by Michigan-Matt — August 8, 2006 @ 5:49 pm - August 8, 2006

  24. Patrick of the Gryph variety offered: “In fact George Washington hanged some men in the Continental army for the “crime”.”

    Bzzzzzzzzt. The record of the Continental Army is clear on this one, Patrick. One solider, Lt Enslin in 1778, was court-martialed for sodomy after he was caught in bed with a man. One. Not many. One. And he wasn’t hung… well, not in the way you mean. Sorry. Unless we’re going to haul out some discredited, non-peer reviewed book to claim Washington hung men for sodomy. The records of the Continental Army are clear. There were men hung for treason, spying, etc. But even Gen George Washington understood the comforts of bed when the campfires waned.

    Second, you write earlier: “The penalty for sodomy in many states was the death penalty, as it was in the military”

    Bzzzt. Wrong again –hey, isn’t the whole sodomy in the military issue one of your pet issues? I can see why you hold these opinions, Patrick, you’re just misinformed.

    Actually, homosexual conduct wasn’t prohibited until WWI. And at first it was only for forced sodomization… as in rape. Later consensual sex was added to military law but it only is for court martial. No hanging. No cutting off the fingers. No torture on the rack at GitMo. Court martial.

    In 2001, on the 50th Anniversary of the UCMJ a blue ribbon panel –chosen by Geo Bush and Don Rumsfeld by the way– called on the Pentagon to change the sodomy language and, as you might know, the Pentagon said Nope… or something like that.

    So, no hanging for sodomy in the US military –as they do in Iran and elsewhere.

    Just another one of those myths danced around for no purpose other than…. what? Oh, like the rube the military torture prisoners as a matter of practice and policy. I forgot.

    Comment by Michigan-Matt — August 8, 2006 @ 6:18 pm - August 8, 2006

  25. Hey Peter, I think there were some states right after the Civil War that adopted anti-sodomy laws and provided for the death penalty but those laws were about forced sodomy, nor consensual.

    In the most notorious state for sexual shenanigans (yep, that’d be Slick Willy’s state of Arkansas), they adopted an anti-sodomy forced sex law in 1868 but, on a search of historical records prompted by a request from the “SodomyLaws.org” folks others have cited here and in other threads, state historians can’t locate any record of conviction or execution.

    Comment by Michigan-Matt — August 8, 2006 @ 6:34 pm - August 8, 2006

  26. 11: Being that I’m not millionaire, I’ve not seen much of these so-called tax cuts anyway.

    for your information, I do save and conserve gas, use mass transportation, etc. my next car will be even more fuel efficient than what I have now.

    And ya know, it’s pretty funny, because during the 8 Clinton years, big business was pretty much un-welcome in the White House and for some reason we seemed to do ok with a government that at least tried to serve the people, not the corporation.

    And by the way, murderers of gays in Iraq are portected by a government that was pretty much set up by our conservative government…hmmmmm.

    Comment by Kevin — August 9, 2006 @ 12:08 am - August 9, 2006

  27. You obviously are looseing the ability to comprehend the English Language.

    I nominate that for ironic moment of the week. 🙂

    But now to this:

    Because even though I say that life in Iraq is just as bad now as it was under Sadam, you still say I feel Sadam is preferable.

    Of course.

    You see, you can go on and on about how awful Saddam was, but the simple fact of the matter is that you didn’t do anything about it, nor would you allow anything to be done about it.

    Now you’re whining day and night about conditions as they are.

    Obviously, since you said nothing before, you preferred Saddam.

    Comment by North Dallas Thirty — August 9, 2006 @ 12:50 am - August 9, 2006

  28. Kevin at #26: “And ya know, it’s pretty funny, because during the 8 Clinton years, big business was pretty much un-welcome in the White House”

    What rock did you live under during those years, Kevin?

    Clinton and Big Business take on China’s Permanent MFN status
    http://www.carnegieendowment.org/publications/index.cfm?fa=view&id=234

    Clinton and Occidental Petroleum (that would be BigOil)
    http://www.moles.org/ProjectUnderground/drillbits/5_08/2.html

    Clinton and the Evil MultiNationals
    http://www.commondreams.org/headlines/021700-01.htm\

    Or what part of welcoming in BigBusiness’ Buddies into the cabinet like Bentsen (“Businessmen: just give me $10,000 and you can have breakfast with me anytime”), Panetta, Rivlin, Rubin, Altman, the Lincoln Bedroom for $100k a pop per night if you really meant business… Hillary or Bill’s en-suite “attentions” are extra)…

    Or how about the way he jumped into bed with Hollywood’s BigBusiness Entertainment Industry moguls?

    Kevin, where have you been? “And ya know, it’s pretty funny, because during the 8 Clinton years, big business was pretty much un-welcome in the White House”… right LOL.

    What did you think MFN status for China and the illegal Chinese government kickbacks to Clinton and later Gore were all about? Big Business opening up China… it’s why the US Chamber of Commerce’s Tom Donahue got into bed with the Clinton Administration on the issue.

    Gheez. Get some informed opinions, will ya?

    Comment by Michigan-Matt — August 9, 2006 @ 2:32 pm - August 9, 2006

  29. I am not whining its the Iraqis in living in Baghdad who are whining.
    I am just listening…Why aren’t you?

    Comment by keogh — August 9, 2006 @ 3:10 pm - August 9, 2006

  30. Oh, I am; the difference is that I was listening BEFORE when it was Saddam and did something about it.

    Comment by North Dallas Thirty — August 9, 2006 @ 3:36 pm - August 9, 2006

  31. Before?
    Before what?
    Before 9-11?
    Before he massacred thousands upon thousands?
    I don’t think you listened at all.
    You reacted, like everyone else.
    Now that you have reacted…you should ask yourself…”Now what?”

    Listen now and you will hear the wailing of Iraqi women as their sons are brought out to be executed.
    Listen now and you will hear the government’s silence while citizens fortify their neighborhoods.
    Listen now and you will hear Iraqi clerics call their citizens to fight side by side with Hezbollah.
    Listen now and you will hear the Islamists rising in the wake of the chaos of Iraq.
    But of course, your self righteousness may have made deaf.
    If that is the case try reading Iraqi the august 7th post of:
    the blog: iraqthemodel

    Comment by keogh — August 9, 2006 @ 4:43 pm - August 9, 2006

  32. You miss the irony in your argument, Keogh.

    Before the invasion, there was no “Iraq: The Model”.

    Indeed, our young friend would have been killed, and likely his whole family too, for reporting such things from inside Ba’athist Iraq.

    I spoke out against that sort of thing, but you and your fellow liberals tried to stop it.

    You claimed that we should not speak of Saddam’s atrocities, such as imprisoning toddlers and babies, in the name of “dealing peace”.

    And now you presume to lecture us?

    Comment by North Dallas Thirty — August 9, 2006 @ 7:39 pm - August 9, 2006

  33. So, through your moral compass I should be hearing you clamoring for attacks in:
    China, Egypt, Jordan, Syria, Turkey, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Russia, “The Stans” and who knows where else….
    What are you doing to halt those governments from imprisoning, killing and their other grave abuses?
    Or do you only make false arguments when it suits your needs?

    Comment by keogh — August 10, 2006 @ 12:54 pm - August 10, 2006

  34. Far more than you ever did to stop Saddam, Keogh.

    And that’s the whole point here; since you saw no need to stop Saddam, and indeed covered up his worst abuses so that he wouldn’t be stopped, your statements are empty.

    Comment by North Dallas Thirty — August 11, 2006 @ 12:24 pm - August 11, 2006

  35. So this is Bush’s idea of a democratic nation???? I guess there’s not much hope fpr gay rights in the US until 2008. Vote for Hillary!!! There is an article in the October edition of Advocate that really explains how radical this discrimination against homosexuals in Iraq is becoming. Canada or Australia should grant these people asylum…it’s horrific. I would like to help, if anyone has any contact info please let me know….trevormc19@aol.com

    Comment by Trevor — September 27, 2006 @ 12:24 am - September 27, 2006

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