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		<title>By: Kilic Ali</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2006/08/15/israel-deprived-of-victory-against-hezbollah/comment-page-1/#comment-20624</link>
		<dc:creator>Kilic Ali</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Sep 2006 12:45:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First of all Hezbollah is not more terrorist than IRA was, however Israel is nothing to Lebanon, compared what UK was to Irland. Understand that &quot;All good people&quot; are not praying for Hezbollah&#039;s defeat. Actually, since the world&#039;s more than half is praying for defeat of USA and Israel. So when you are talking like Israel is the hero here, consider that you can be the minority thinking so.

Second. The reason that Hezbollah cannot be defeated, is that they are found &quot;right&quot;, &quot;just&quot; and in politically correct situation by most of the people and so people keep joining their ranks. They are &quot;freedom fighters&quot;. If they aren&#039;t that means I don&#039;t know what freedom fighter in the world is. If you kill Nasrallah there will be someone else to replace him. If you somehow destroy Hezbollah, there will be a new organization to replace them. These people are not mad. They are fighting in a certain way because they are forced to such a war. As the reasons remain there, the idea of armed strugle remains there and Hezbollah remains there.
And for the brilliant ideas about power play, that Israel should be left alone to wipe out everything in ME. I can understand your hate against Muslims. But I can&#039;t understand how stupid you can be. What do you think that Israel did ? They simply can&#039;t deal even with Hezbollah alone. Yet you gonna put them in front of all Muslims ? There is a limit how long they can go with such operations before the enemyhood against Israel all around the world becomes a wave that will wash out the map from their dirt.
Iranian Mullah&#039;s are much more intelligent, peacefull and of common sense compared to guys like you. Those like Bush, Blair and Sharon, are the actual facsists. Learn that &quot;fascist&quot; does not mean &quot;those who dont accept American rule&quot;
Ahmedinejad is a honorable leader. What he says about Israel is not unknown or something new. But what new is, those who are talking like him, now seem to be really right. Even if I had any hope about peace in ME with Israel, the last war in Lebanon clearly proves that Ahmedinejad is right and only way to peace is destruction of Israel.
And finally. All these plans are not for the good of Israeli people neither for good of American people, but the purpose is to satisfy a few power-hungry maniacs, who were to be the elites of the politics in civilized world.
Nothing is more fun than you guys are discussing all about these like you yourself will win something from all these. Wake up guys ! Those who will collect the fruits of the bloody victory won&#039;t share them with you just because of your brilliant ideas.

You are speaking so much from violence and war, in cold blood, like they are ordinary things. I wonder how long you could stand at that point if the corpse lying there would be one of your beloved ones.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First of all Hezbollah is not more terrorist than IRA was, however Israel is nothing to Lebanon, compared what UK was to Irland. Understand that &#8220;All good people&#8221; are not praying for Hezbollah&#8217;s defeat. Actually, since the world&#8217;s more than half is praying for defeat of USA and Israel. So when you are talking like Israel is the hero here, consider that you can be the minority thinking so.</p>
<p>Second. The reason that Hezbollah cannot be defeated, is that they are found &#8220;right&#8221;, &#8220;just&#8221; and in politically correct situation by most of the people and so people keep joining their ranks. They are &#8220;freedom fighters&#8221;. If they aren&#8217;t that means I don&#8217;t know what freedom fighter in the world is. If you kill Nasrallah there will be someone else to replace him. If you somehow destroy Hezbollah, there will be a new organization to replace them. These people are not mad. They are fighting in a certain way because they are forced to such a war. As the reasons remain there, the idea of armed strugle remains there and Hezbollah remains there.<br />
And for the brilliant ideas about power play, that Israel should be left alone to wipe out everything in ME. I can understand your hate against Muslims. But I can&#8217;t understand how stupid you can be. What do you think that Israel did ? They simply can&#8217;t deal even with Hezbollah alone. Yet you gonna put them in front of all Muslims ? There is a limit how long they can go with such operations before the enemyhood against Israel all around the world becomes a wave that will wash out the map from their dirt.<br />
Iranian Mullah&#8217;s are much more intelligent, peacefull and of common sense compared to guys like you. Those like Bush, Blair and Sharon, are the actual facsists. Learn that &#8220;fascist&#8221; does not mean &#8220;those who dont accept American rule&#8221;<br />
Ahmedinejad is a honorable leader. What he says about Israel is not unknown or something new. But what new is, those who are talking like him, now seem to be really right. Even if I had any hope about peace in ME with Israel, the last war in Lebanon clearly proves that Ahmedinejad is right and only way to peace is destruction of Israel.<br />
And finally. All these plans are not for the good of Israeli people neither for good of American people, but the purpose is to satisfy a few power-hungry maniacs, who were to be the elites of the politics in civilized world.<br />
Nothing is more fun than you guys are discussing all about these like you yourself will win something from all these. Wake up guys ! Those who will collect the fruits of the bloody victory won&#8217;t share them with you just because of your brilliant ideas.</p>
<p>You are speaking so much from violence and war, in cold blood, like they are ordinary things. I wonder how long you could stand at that point if the corpse lying there would be one of your beloved ones.</p>
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		<title>By: keogh</title>
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		<dc:creator>keogh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Aug 2006 04:17:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have been there.
Its can be rough.
But if you treat the poeple with respect and polietness they are so so so so nice
Just don&#039;t stare at the guys there.  That can cause problems</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been there.<br />
Its can be rough.<br />
But if you treat the poeple with respect and polietness they are so so so so nice<br />
Just don&#8217;t stare at the guys there.  That can cause problems</p>
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		<title>By: Michigan-Matt</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2006/08/15/israel-deprived-of-victory-against-hezbollah/comment-page-1/#comment-20590</link>
		<dc:creator>Michigan-Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Aug 2006 23:46:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>keogh, it&#039;s LEBANON not Lebenon.  Even great people in great countries expect you to spell their names right.

Lebanon is also a crime-ridden, war-torn, terrorist filled country.  If you don&#039;t look arab and can speak the language fluently, I&#039;d advise you to keep your naivety and life intact... don&#039;t go there.

There is no Paris of the MiddleEast anymore and Lebanon should not be a vacation destination for any thinking human being.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>keogh, it&#8217;s LEBANON not Lebenon.  Even great people in great countries expect you to spell their names right.</p>
<p>Lebanon is also a crime-ridden, war-torn, terrorist filled country.  If you don&#8217;t look arab and can speak the language fluently, I&#8217;d advise you to keep your naivety and life intact&#8230; don&#8217;t go there.</p>
<p>There is no Paris of the MiddleEast anymore and Lebanon should not be a vacation destination for any thinking human being.</p>
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		<title>By: keogh</title>
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		<dc:creator>keogh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Aug 2006 20:51:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m only going to Israel becuase that is where my job will send me.
If you want to pay me to go to Lebenon I will gladly go!
Its a great country, with great people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m only going to Israel becuase that is where my job will send me.<br />
If you want to pay me to go to Lebenon I will gladly go!<br />
Its a great country, with great people.</p>
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		<title>By: North Dallas Thirty</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2006/08/15/israel-deprived-of-victory-against-hezbollah/comment-page-1/#comment-20592</link>
		<dc:creator>North Dallas Thirty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Aug 2006 19:34:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;I have been there and in the near future I might head back (this time only Israel)
If I see any Hezbollah I will talk to them for you…but wait, the Israelis couldn’t find them very well…how do you suppose I find them?&lt;/i&gt;

Why? Are you afraid that Hizbollah will shoot you?

&lt;i&gt;Further, it seems you now feel that engagement is the only way to go forward!&lt;/i&gt;

Actually, no; I simply think that your being shot in the head is the only way that you will ever figure out that Hizbollah wants to kill you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I have been there and in the near future I might head back (this time only Israel)<br />
If I see any Hezbollah I will talk to them for you…but wait, the Israelis couldn’t find them very well…how do you suppose I find them?</i></p>
<p>Why? Are you afraid that Hizbollah will shoot you?</p>
<p><i>Further, it seems you now feel that engagement is the only way to go forward!</i></p>
<p>Actually, no; I simply think that your being shot in the head is the only way that you will ever figure out that Hizbollah wants to kill you.</p>
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		<title>By: keogh</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2006/08/15/israel-deprived-of-victory-against-hezbollah/comment-page-1/#comment-20593</link>
		<dc:creator>keogh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Aug 2006 18:52:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just so you know,
I have been there and in the near future I might head back (this time only Israel)
If I see any Hezbollah I will talk to them for you…but wait, the Israelis couldn’t find them very well…how do you suppose I find them?
Further, it seems you now feel that engagement is the only way to go forward!
I am happy to have convinced you.
Pretty soon I will be reading from you that Evan Bayh is the person who will bring sanity back to the political process!
I look forward to that and more agreements with you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just so you know,<br />
I have been there and in the near future I might head back (this time only Israel)<br />
If I see any Hezbollah I will talk to them for you…but wait, the Israelis couldn’t find them very well…how do you suppose I find them?<br />
Further, it seems you now feel that engagement is the only way to go forward!<br />
I am happy to have convinced you.<br />
Pretty soon I will be reading from you that Evan Bayh is the person who will bring sanity back to the political process!<br />
I look forward to that and more agreements with you.</p>
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		<title>By: North Dallas Thirty</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2006/08/15/israel-deprived-of-victory-against-hezbollah/comment-page-1/#comment-20598</link>
		<dc:creator>North Dallas Thirty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Aug 2006 17:01:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, Keogh, I&#039;m simply challenging you to go to Lebanon and insist that Hizbollah disarm -- and, if they refuse, start taking their weapons away from them.
After all, since you insist that Hizbollah only wants peace, there should be no problem, right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, Keogh, I&#8217;m simply challenging you to go to Lebanon and insist that Hizbollah disarm &#8212; and, if they refuse, start taking their weapons away from them.<br />
After all, since you insist that Hizbollah only wants peace, there should be no problem, right?</p>
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		<title>By: keogh</title>
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		<dc:creator>keogh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Aug 2006 16:56:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“go do so yourself”

That is a fairly ridiculous comment.
It’s a quote similar to the classic rant of the Bush supporter:
“If you don’t like it, leave.”
Or possibly it shows that you now agree with me by you wanting to send US citizens over there to begin the process,
I am happy that you have finally come around.
Congrats!  You are a liberal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“go do so yourself”</p>
<p>That is a fairly ridiculous comment.<br />
It’s a quote similar to the classic rant of the Bush supporter:<br />
“If you don’t like it, leave.”<br />
Or possibly it shows that you now agree with me by you wanting to send US citizens over there to begin the process,<br />
I am happy that you have finally come around.<br />
Congrats!  You are a liberal.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Hughes</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2006/08/15/israel-deprived-of-victory-against-hezbollah/comment-page-1/#comment-20595</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Hughes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Aug 2006 16:23:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Funny...the Left has been predicting the defeat of the USA since the 1960s.  When will they ever get it right?

Regards,
Peter H.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Funny&#8230;the Left has been predicting the defeat of the USA since the 1960s.  When will they ever get it right?</p>
<p>Regards,<br />
Peter H.</p>
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		<title>By: North Dallas Thirty</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2006/08/15/israel-deprived-of-victory-against-hezbollah/comment-page-1/#comment-20596</link>
		<dc:creator>North Dallas Thirty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Aug 2006 16:18:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you want to engage your Hizbollah pals, keogh, go do so yourself.
Don&#039;t hide here in the United States behind our defense forces.
Why aren&#039;t you in Lebanon right now engaging Hizbollah and demanding they disarm?
No answer?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you want to engage your Hizbollah pals, keogh, go do so yourself.<br />
Don&#8217;t hide here in the United States behind our defense forces.<br />
Why aren&#8217;t you in Lebanon right now engaging Hizbollah and demanding they disarm?<br />
No answer?</p>
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		<title>By: keogh</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2006/08/15/israel-deprived-of-victory-against-hezbollah/comment-page-1/#comment-20597</link>
		<dc:creator>keogh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Aug 2006 14:01:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You guys are living in the past
Throwing around words like appeasement….
Jeez.
Your arguments and barbs are the same that folks threw around in the 60’s and 70’s.
They were worthless then and they are worthless now.
This is a NEW kind of war.
That is something even Bush talks about (but he has no strategy to fight this new war)

Get out of the past you two…
Seriously…your platitudes will bring thing this country to a great defeat.
But maybe that is what you want…maybe you hope that out of the rubble of defeat we can rip up our inconvenient constitution to create a country that thrives on your dreams of paaaast livin’</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You guys are living in the past<br />
Throwing around words like appeasement….<br />
Jeez.<br />
Your arguments and barbs are the same that folks threw around in the 60’s and 70’s.<br />
They were worthless then and they are worthless now.<br />
This is a NEW kind of war.<br />
That is something even Bush talks about (but he has no strategy to fight this new war)</p>
<p>Get out of the past you two…<br />
Seriously…your platitudes will bring thing this country to a great defeat.<br />
But maybe that is what you want…maybe you hope that out of the rubble of defeat we can rip up our inconvenient constitution to create a country that thrives on your dreams of paaaast livin’</p>
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		<title>By: Michigan-Matt</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2006/08/15/israel-deprived-of-victory-against-hezbollah/comment-page-1/#comment-20599</link>
		<dc:creator>Michigan-Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Aug 2006 11:59:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>keogh writes: &quot;Further, we have zero leverage with Syria, Iran, Russia and China. How do we apply pressure on them?&quot;

Are you really that naive?  It&#039;s like going back to 1st Grade with you... and frankly I don&#039;t have the inclination nor the time to respond to insincere nonsense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>keogh writes: &#8220;Further, we have zero leverage with Syria, Iran, Russia and China. How do we apply pressure on them?&#8221;</p>
<p>Are you really that naive?  It&#8217;s like going back to 1st Grade with you&#8230; and frankly I don&#8217;t have the inclination nor the time to respond to insincere nonsense.</p>
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		<title>By: Michigan-Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michigan-Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Aug 2006 11:48:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>keogh, the problem is that your world view is constrained from just reading headlines, talking big in front of other high schoolers, and thinking the George McGovern way is applicable.

Like many others, you&#039;re the one needing a serious reality fix.  We&#039;ve answered your question of &quot;Why not appeasement now.  Why not compromise and build up (give money to, legitimize) our enemy&#039;s &quot;political wing&quot; rather than fight its &quot;military wing&quot; --do you even know that not&#039;s distinct in this case, unlike N Ireland?

keogh, you&#039;ve read the correct answers here; you just don&#039;t and won&#039;t comprehend.

It&#039;s as simple and complex as just that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>keogh, the problem is that your world view is constrained from just reading headlines, talking big in front of other high schoolers, and thinking the George McGovern way is applicable.</p>
<p>Like many others, you&#8217;re the one needing a serious reality fix.  We&#8217;ve answered your question of &#8220;Why not appeasement now.  Why not compromise and build up (give money to, legitimize) our enemy&#8217;s &#8220;political wing&#8221; rather than fight its &#8220;military wing&#8221; &#8211;do you even know that not&#8217;s distinct in this case, unlike N Ireland?</p>
<p>keogh, you&#8217;ve read the correct answers here; you just don&#8217;t and won&#8217;t comprehend.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s as simple and complex as just that.</p>
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		<title>By: North Dallas Thirty</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2006/08/15/israel-deprived-of-victory-against-hezbollah/comment-page-1/#comment-20601</link>
		<dc:creator>North Dallas Thirty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Aug 2006 04:38:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Because, Keogh, we are dealing with people who have openly stated that their goal and purpose is genocide, who have and will continue to endanger civilians to carry it out, and who are openly contemptuous of peace and disarmament, even now defying an clear international resolution to give up their weapons.

Sounds a lot like Hitler to me.

What Hitler did was what Hizbollah is doing now; exploit Europe&#039;s fear of war and force concession after concession after concession, all while claiming he only wanted &quot;peace&quot; -- and then invading and attempting to destroy the countries who tried to appease him.

Had Hitler been met with a steady, strong force and had it made clear to him that the Allies were resolute and would not tolerate his actions -- history would be very different today.

But again, you and yours will appease, appease, appease until another six million Jews die -- and then you will be hypocritical enough to think that building a Holocaust memorial exculpates your inaction.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Because, Keogh, we are dealing with people who have openly stated that their goal and purpose is genocide, who have and will continue to endanger civilians to carry it out, and who are openly contemptuous of peace and disarmament, even now defying an clear international resolution to give up their weapons.</p>
<p>Sounds a lot like Hitler to me.</p>
<p>What Hitler did was what Hizbollah is doing now; exploit Europe&#8217;s fear of war and force concession after concession after concession, all while claiming he only wanted &#8220;peace&#8221; &#8212; and then invading and attempting to destroy the countries who tried to appease him.</p>
<p>Had Hitler been met with a steady, strong force and had it made clear to him that the Allies were resolute and would not tolerate his actions &#8212; history would be very different today.</p>
<p>But again, you and yours will appease, appease, appease until another six million Jews die &#8212; and then you will be hypocritical enough to think that building a Holocaust memorial exculpates your inaction.</p>
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		<title>By: keogh</title>
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		<dc:creator>keogh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Aug 2006 04:28:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ahh..
Predictable Predictable.
Out come the Chamberlian comments...
You are obviously living in the past.
Unfortunately there are no lessons to be learned from WWII to now.
To win wars of the present you must have tactics of the present.
Get out of your Rommyian Cold War, State-to-State conflict mindset!
It will take us down the road of defeat.
How can you not see that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ahh..<br />
Predictable Predictable.<br />
Out come the Chamberlian comments&#8230;<br />
You are obviously living in the past.<br />
Unfortunately there are no lessons to be learned from WWII to now.<br />
To win wars of the present you must have tactics of the present.<br />
Get out of your Rommyian Cold War, State-to-State conflict mindset!<br />
It will take us down the road of defeat.<br />
How can you not see that?</p>
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		<title>By: North Dallas Thirty</title>
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		<dc:creator>North Dallas Thirty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Aug 2006 02:54:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Further, you still haven’t challenged or dealt with my main point.
There is no way we can stop them with our or Israel’s armed forces.
Look at Iraq/Afganistan/Lebenon for crying out loud.
The notion of kill kill kill war war war has Failed Failed Failed!&lt;/i&gt;

Oh, we could do quite nicely, if we were willing to embrace the necessity of doing what needs to be done as we did in World War II.

But unfortunately these days, people are trying to fight a war while appeasing naive leftists like yourself who refuse to admit that Hizbollah doesn&#039;t want peace with Israel -- they want Israel erased and the Jews eliminated.

You, keogh, are nothing more than the most recent generation of Hitler appeasers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Further, you still haven’t challenged or dealt with my main point.<br />
There is no way we can stop them with our or Israel’s armed forces.<br />
Look at Iraq/Afganistan/Lebenon for crying out loud.<br />
The notion of kill kill kill war war war has Failed Failed Failed!</i></p>
<p>Oh, we could do quite nicely, if we were willing to embrace the necessity of doing what needs to be done as we did in World War II.</p>
<p>But unfortunately these days, people are trying to fight a war while appeasing naive leftists like yourself who refuse to admit that Hizbollah doesn&#8217;t want peace with Israel &#8212; they want Israel erased and the Jews eliminated.</p>
<p>You, keogh, are nothing more than the most recent generation of Hitler appeasers.</p>
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		<title>By: keogh</title>
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		<dc:creator>keogh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Aug 2006 00:23:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I completly agree NDT
Those terrorits terrorize not only us but their own people
They are bad.  And yes we should do what we want regarding those others countries.   However we should not make the same stupid mistakes Israel and the Bush administration have been making.
Further, you still haven&#039;t challenged or dealt with my main point.
There is no way we can stop them with our or Israel&#039;s armed forces.
Look at Iraq/Afganistan/Lebenon for crying out loud.
The notion of kill kill kill war war war has Failed Failed Failed!
Or,
you could take the easy way out and blame the leadership like GPW but the reality is still real.


Strategic Oil Reserve - I had no idea it held so much.  Holy cow, lets stop taking all oil from foreign countries and live on the hog for a few years!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I completly agree NDT<br />
Those terrorits terrorize not only us but their own people<br />
They are bad.  And yes we should do what we want regarding those others countries.   However we should not make the same stupid mistakes Israel and the Bush administration have been making.<br />
Further, you still haven&#8217;t challenged or dealt with my main point.<br />
There is no way we can stop them with our or Israel&#8217;s armed forces.<br />
Look at Iraq/Afganistan/Lebenon for crying out loud.<br />
The notion of kill kill kill war war war has Failed Failed Failed!<br />
Or,<br />
you could take the easy way out and blame the leadership like GPW but the reality is still real.</p>
<p>Strategic Oil Reserve &#8211; I had no idea it held so much.  Holy cow, lets stop taking all oil from foreign countries and live on the hog for a few years!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Michigan-Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michigan-Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Aug 2006 00:14:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NDXXX &amp; MajorDad, nice job of responding to keogh.  Good going.

I&#039;m sorry that it will no good.

keogh doesn&#039;t believe in military force to quash terrorism anymore than you can convince him that the UN is a failed institution better suited for diplomatic teas and refugee supplies than monitoring or peace keeping.

Like many before him, keogh sees the world from a suspicious angle when the military is involved.  Thank goodness guys like keogh haven&#039;t had the reigns of power in the US since 1976-1980.

I call it the George McGovern, Eugene McCarthy, Mikey Dukaksis, JimmineyCricket, John Kerry wing of the Democrat party.  Appeasers all --that worshipped at the altar of St Neville Chamberlain.

And it&#039;s frightening to think that there is YET another generation of appeasers and accommodaters waiting to &quot;pad the kneelers&quot; for terrorist groups... they have learned nothing in the last 4 years.  &quot;Work with the political arm&quot; in order to disarm the terrorists?  What sheer madness.  Not even Clinton went that far in selling America down the river.

Sen Henry Cabot Lodge --speaking about the UN&#039;s precursor (the League of Nations) said he doubted his fellow Americans had either the will or stamina to wage a battle against the spreading threat of revolutionary madness in Palestine, the Balkans or Spain.

He was right then.  Wilson&#039;s League got gutted and Americans returned to splendid isolationism... something many on the Left want to recreate in this century, too.  And it lasted for America until FDR got the ships in a row and could provoke the Japanese.

History is bent on repeating itself.  The threat is never real to the Left until the yellow star patches are being sewn on their garments or their loved ones die as innocents.

Nope keogh, the Israeli military should have taken this war right past Beruit and into the streets of Damascus --while letting all other Arab countries know that to assist Syria would warrant unilateral action against their own capitals.

Public opinion on the Arab street shouldn&#039;t matter to the US or Israel.  There is no appeasement of terrorists or IslamoFascists.  They can be bought, sure.  They can be undermined, oh yeah.  We can corrupt their leadership and we should without restraint.  They must be watched and denied sanctuary.

But at the end of the day, they are still terrorists and they&#039;ll kill us if given the opportunity.

What keogh doesn&#039;t grasp is that Israel succeeded in denying Hezbollah sanctuary.  The trick will be to make the average Lebanon citizen feel the pain of living with those vile creatures in their midst.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NDXXX &amp; MajorDad, nice job of responding to keogh.  Good going.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sorry that it will no good.</p>
<p>keogh doesn&#8217;t believe in military force to quash terrorism anymore than you can convince him that the UN is a failed institution better suited for diplomatic teas and refugee supplies than monitoring or peace keeping.</p>
<p>Like many before him, keogh sees the world from a suspicious angle when the military is involved.  Thank goodness guys like keogh haven&#8217;t had the reigns of power in the US since 1976-1980.</p>
<p>I call it the George McGovern, Eugene McCarthy, Mikey Dukaksis, JimmineyCricket, John Kerry wing of the Democrat party.  Appeasers all &#8211;that worshipped at the altar of St Neville Chamberlain.</p>
<p>And it&#8217;s frightening to think that there is YET another generation of appeasers and accommodaters waiting to &#8220;pad the kneelers&#8221; for terrorist groups&#8230; they have learned nothing in the last 4 years.  &#8220;Work with the political arm&#8221; in order to disarm the terrorists?  What sheer madness.  Not even Clinton went that far in selling America down the river.</p>
<p>Sen Henry Cabot Lodge &#8211;speaking about the UN&#8217;s precursor (the League of Nations) said he doubted his fellow Americans had either the will or stamina to wage a battle against the spreading threat of revolutionary madness in Palestine, the Balkans or Spain.</p>
<p>He was right then.  Wilson&#8217;s League got gutted and Americans returned to splendid isolationism&#8230; something many on the Left want to recreate in this century, too.  And it lasted for America until FDR got the ships in a row and could provoke the Japanese.</p>
<p>History is bent on repeating itself.  The threat is never real to the Left until the yellow star patches are being sewn on their garments or their loved ones die as innocents.</p>
<p>Nope keogh, the Israeli military should have taken this war right past Beruit and into the streets of Damascus &#8211;while letting all other Arab countries know that to assist Syria would warrant unilateral action against their own capitals.</p>
<p>Public opinion on the Arab street shouldn&#8217;t matter to the US or Israel.  There is no appeasement of terrorists or IslamoFascists.  They can be bought, sure.  They can be undermined, oh yeah.  We can corrupt their leadership and we should without restraint.  They must be watched and denied sanctuary.</p>
<p>But at the end of the day, they are still terrorists and they&#8217;ll kill us if given the opportunity.</p>
<p>What keogh doesn&#8217;t grasp is that Israel succeeded in denying Hezbollah sanctuary.  The trick will be to make the average Lebanon citizen feel the pain of living with those vile creatures in their midst.</p>
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		<title>By: North Dallas Thirty</title>
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		<dc:creator>North Dallas Thirty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Aug 2006 23:08:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;I think the reserve only has enough oil for a week or two and some of that is set aside for the military.&lt;/i&gt;

&lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strategic_Petroleum_Reserve&quot;&gt;Nope&lt;/a&gt;.

&lt;i&gt;Further, Russia, China, Iran and others don’t really have to listen to their populace. They can do what they choose to meet the geopolitical ends. Then they Blame America and the population believes them.&lt;/i&gt;

Well, then, since the United States will be blamed anyway regardless of who does what, why should we not do as we please and what makes the most sense for us?

&lt;i&gt;Actually military violence gives them more support from the population, thus they grow stronger. If Israel would have kept up their operations, all Hezbollah would have is more money and more recruits while Israel would have more dead civilians and a wasted reputation.&lt;/i&gt;

You make the assumption that the Lebanese do not realize that Hizbollah&#039;s aggression against Israel is the reason for the military operations.

If that is the case, perhaps they will think twice about allowing Hizbollah to put a missile launcher in the middle of their village if they know that doing so will bring swift and immediate retribution against them.

Of course, what leftists like you refuse to acknowledge, keogh, is that Hizbollah does not take no for an answer; they shoot civilians who refuse their demands to act as human shields, and they shoot people who publicly criticize them.

We know why you can&#039;t admit that, though; it destroys your argument that the Lebanese people &quot;support&quot; Hizbollah when it is made obvious that the choice they have is to support Hizbollah or die at Hizbollah&#039;s hands.

One wonders what destiny the Lebanese people would choose if Hizbollah were no longer able to threaten them with death if they did not comply. But the only way that would happen is if Hizbollah were disarmed -- which leftists like yourself refuse to do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I think the reserve only has enough oil for a week or two and some of that is set aside for the military.</i></p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strategic_Petroleum_Reserve">Nope</a>.</p>
<p><i>Further, Russia, China, Iran and others don’t really have to listen to their populace. They can do what they choose to meet the geopolitical ends. Then they Blame America and the population believes them.</i></p>
<p>Well, then, since the United States will be blamed anyway regardless of who does what, why should we not do as we please and what makes the most sense for us?</p>
<p><i>Actually military violence gives them more support from the population, thus they grow stronger. If Israel would have kept up their operations, all Hezbollah would have is more money and more recruits while Israel would have more dead civilians and a wasted reputation.</i></p>
<p>You make the assumption that the Lebanese do not realize that Hizbollah&#8217;s aggression against Israel is the reason for the military operations.</p>
<p>If that is the case, perhaps they will think twice about allowing Hizbollah to put a missile launcher in the middle of their village if they know that doing so will bring swift and immediate retribution against them.</p>
<p>Of course, what leftists like you refuse to acknowledge, keogh, is that Hizbollah does not take no for an answer; they shoot civilians who refuse their demands to act as human shields, and they shoot people who publicly criticize them.</p>
<p>We know why you can&#8217;t admit that, though; it destroys your argument that the Lebanese people &#8220;support&#8221; Hizbollah when it is made obvious that the choice they have is to support Hizbollah or die at Hizbollah&#8217;s hands.</p>
<p>One wonders what destiny the Lebanese people would choose if Hizbollah were no longer able to threaten them with death if they did not comply. But the only way that would happen is if Hizbollah were disarmed &#8212; which leftists like yourself refuse to do.</p>
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		<title>By: GayPatriotWest</title>
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		<dc:creator>GayPatriotWest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Aug 2006 23:02:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A slight amendment to your comment #15, Majordad, it wasn&#039;t the attitude of the Israeli &quot;warriors&quot; that was lacking, but the resolve of Israel&#039;s political leadership.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A slight amendment to your comment #15, Majordad, it wasn&#8217;t the attitude of the Israeli &#8220;warriors&#8221; that was lacking, but the resolve of Israel&#8217;s political leadership.</p>
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