these are all questions that are asked of women in an attack

On another note: from #6 Dude Ranches - what are these and where can I find one?

Should I take it as an admission that he had no idea what a “hate crime” is?

I think people take domestic violence against men less seriously because men are supposed to be considered stronger than women. How many men would really come forward and press charges against a woman for beating him up? They may think other men will consider them weak. I’m suprised the statistics for men are so high because it is never talked about.

And again I’m not saying these women shouldn’t go to jail. They will anyway. And pointing out that there have been quite a few incidents in New York that may have led these women to carry protection in the first place does not mean I am ok with them attacking a guy who did no physical harm to them.

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I’m not justifying these women attacking people but it’s quite possible these women felt to need to protect themselves given the increase in gay bashings in New York this past year.

All the facts are not out there. If it comes out that these women attacked this man unprovoked than they should go to jail.

In short, dump the caveats.

I did say so far there hasn’t even been to trial and we don’t know all the facts in the case anyway.

Neither have the San Diego or New Mexico cases.

But I don’t see you arguing that we should wait and not declare those folks immediately guilty.

Good. Tell the lesbians who made it, RajIan, because Matt didn’t.

Now watch as puppet RajIan spins, trying to explain why it’s OK that those lesbians said it — because puppet RajIan can’t admit that Matt was right.

You can stand on the sidelines and pitch a few heated stones, but it doesn’t substitute for meaningful dialogue or constructive debate.

You’re the only one who can atone for your past conduct, raj. Do it now; you’ll feel better as a man… even if that is as a German in soul.

But isn’t it interesting that it is automatically a hate crime when the stab victim is accused by a lesbian?

You really should learn something about the “legal law” before you start opining on matters such as this. This assertion is preposterous. As even Danny from LaLaLand–das Land des HappyEnds–should be able to tell you. Presuming, of course, that he actually did graduate from law school.

Try again, Turk:

Later, at the police station house, where the seven suspects were charged with gang assault and criminal possession of a weapon, another woman told the Daily News that Buckle “called us [homophobic slur] and he said he was going to f— us all.” Said another: “He spit on us and threw a cigarette. This is a hate crime.”

Next up:

But there have recently been arrests in some pretty serious cases in San Diego and New Mexico within the last few weeks as well. Why haven’t these crimes been brought up by this site?

Because no one believes the theory that those people should be allowed to commit violent acts against other people because they were gay.

However, there are plenty of people — you included — who are equivocating that these women should get off scot-free for stabbing someone because they claim he’s a homophobe.

In short, no provocation, excuse, or perceived threat is sufficient for trying to kill a gay person, but it’s OK for a gay person to try to kill a straight person if they are provoked or feel threatened.

And you wonder why people think gays are asking for special rights?

the post makes clear his feelings about “wild urban lesbians”: they give him shivers.

Is it not perfectly reasonable to get the “shivers” from a gang that stabs people? Is “wild urban lesbians” too harsh a label for people who stab someone? I’m picturing this scenerio in my head and frankly, I don’t even buy their accusations. I think they’re trying to cover their own violent asses with this hate-crime B.S. I am disinclined to be trusting of violent criminals.