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		<title>By: Michigan-Matt</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2006/08/24/hillary-holding-up-aids-funding/comment-page-1/#comment-56078</link>
		<dc:creator>Michigan-Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Aug 2006 12:41:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well, at least it&#039;ll be a clean act when it gets unveiled.  One sockpuppet per blog, though... ok?  The GayLeft has the raj/Ian/blah sockpuppet; that&#039;s enough for any blog, any where, any time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well, at least it&#8217;ll be a clean act when it gets unveiled.  One sockpuppet per blog, though&#8230; ok?  The GayLeft has the raj/Ian/blah sockpuppet; that&#8217;s enough for any blog, any where, any time.</p>
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		<title>By: monty</title>
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		<dc:creator>monty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Aug 2006 16:01:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, MM.

My sockpuppet is at the cleaners.  :)

monty</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, MM.</p>
<p>My sockpuppet is at the cleaners.  <img src='http://www.gaypatriot.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>monty</p>
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		<title>By: Michigan-Matt</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2006/08/24/hillary-holding-up-aids-funding/comment-page-1/#comment-56080</link>
		<dc:creator>Michigan-Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Aug 2006 13:41:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>monty, I think you missed the point RWP was making, again.  Why is it that the screeching voices on the Left need to be so shrill when truth rears its head?

It never fails ---the voices on the GayLeft avoid logic, reason or rationality in their personal life, private conduct, in the public square of debate and the marketplace of ideas.

monty, you gotta get a new act.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>monty, I think you missed the point RWP was making, again.  Why is it that the screeching voices on the Left need to be so shrill when truth rears its head?</p>
<p>It never fails &#8212;the voices on the GayLeft avoid logic, reason or rationality in their personal life, private conduct, in the public square of debate and the marketplace of ideas.</p>
<p>monty, you gotta get a new act.</p>
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		<title>By: monty</title>
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		<dc:creator>monty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Aug 2006 18:00:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#12 rightwingprof said:
&quot;I think you meant throwing millions of dollars down a sewer just to make people feel good.&quot;

That&#039;s the rightwing spirit.

Why spend millions of dollars down a sewer just to make people feel good, when we can spend BILLIONS of dollars blowing a country to shit and making then feel miserable!?!

Good ol&#039; republican logic.

monty</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#12 rightwingprof said:<br />
&#8220;I think you meant throwing millions of dollars down a sewer just to make people feel good.&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s the rightwing spirit.</p>
<p>Why spend millions of dollars down a sewer just to make people feel good, when we can spend BILLIONS of dollars blowing a country to shit and making then feel miserable!?!</p>
<p>Good ol&#8217; republican logic.</p>
<p>monty</p>
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		<title>By: rightwingprof</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2006/08/24/hillary-holding-up-aids-funding/comment-page-1/#comment-56082</link>
		<dc:creator>rightwingprof</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Aug 2006 14:41:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Meanwhile President Bush has been sending millions of dollars to Africa to help combat Aids.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I think you meant throwing millions of dollars down a sewer just to make people feel good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Meanwhile President Bush has been sending millions of dollars to Africa to help combat Aids.</p></blockquote>
<p>I think you meant throwing millions of dollars down a sewer just to make people feel good.</p>
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		<title>By: Benj</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2006/08/24/hillary-holding-up-aids-funding/comment-page-1/#comment-56083</link>
		<dc:creator>Benj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Aug 2006 19:19:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#5 above has it right...Hillary is taking lesssons from her husband on this.  New York is NOT the center of the universe and people are getting AIDS in rural southern states also.  Why the RNC is not playing this up is beyond me but then again Republicans have always been poor on PR. Hillary is just plain wrong and the rest of the country needs to hear about it.  If I did not frequent this site on a regular basis I would not have known this.

I used to serve on the Board of a major AIDS Help organization in Monroe Cty. Florida and we always were ready for changes in the distribution plan for Ryan White or funding cutbacks overall.  It is amazing New York did not know...baloney. This is cheap politics at its worst and Hillary is in the middle of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#5 above has it right&#8230;Hillary is taking lesssons from her husband on this.  New York is NOT the center of the universe and people are getting AIDS in rural southern states also.  Why the RNC is not playing this up is beyond me but then again Republicans have always been poor on PR. Hillary is just plain wrong and the rest of the country needs to hear about it.  If I did not frequent this site on a regular basis I would not have known this.</p>
<p>I used to serve on the Board of a major AIDS Help organization in Monroe Cty. Florida and we always were ready for changes in the distribution plan for Ryan White or funding cutbacks overall.  It is amazing New York did not know&#8230;baloney. This is cheap politics at its worst and Hillary is in the middle of it.</p>
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		<title>By: aaron</title>
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		<dc:creator>aaron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Aug 2006 15:39:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am sick and tired of NYC and SF fags making dictates on the rest of us fags.  They spent decades trying to trick the American people into thinking that AIDS was not a predominantly gay disease because that would be discrimination (denying the medical evidence that unprotected anal sex is the best way to transmit it).  Now that the government wants to spend money in area where HIV infection is on the rise in minority communities and in the south, they bitch and moan because we are taking away metro-gays&#039; money.

Anyone know where the LCR is on this?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am sick and tired of NYC and SF fags making dictates on the rest of us fags.  They spent decades trying to trick the American people into thinking that AIDS was not a predominantly gay disease because that would be discrimination (denying the medical evidence that unprotected anal sex is the best way to transmit it).  Now that the government wants to spend money in area where HIV infection is on the rise in minority communities and in the south, they bitch and moan because we are taking away metro-gays&#8217; money.</p>
<p>Anyone know where the LCR is on this?</p>
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		<title>By: Michigan-Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michigan-Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Aug 2006 15:16:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BoBo,

I was thinking the same thing.  And the GayLefties here will take away his GayCard, his VictimCard... they&#039;ll issue a SelfLoathingCard in place of the others.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BoBo,</p>
<p>I was thinking the same thing.  And the GayLefties here will take away his GayCard, his VictimCard&#8230; they&#8217;ll issue a SelfLoathingCard in place of the others.</p>
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		<title>By: BoBo</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2006/08/24/hillary-holding-up-aids-funding/comment-page-1/#comment-56086</link>
		<dc:creator>BoBo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Aug 2006 04:36:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#7 ndtovent - Be careful, your Liberal Dem card is about to be revoked.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#7 ndtovent &#8211; Be careful, your Liberal Dem card is about to be revoked.</p>
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		<title>By: ndtovent</title>
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		<dc:creator>ndtovent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Aug 2006 20:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m a liberal dem., and was always kinda neutral on hillary (never really liked or disliked her, even though I haven&#039;t agreed with all of her views), until now. This REALLY PISSES me off. How DARE she hold up reauthorizing the Ryan White Care fund just because SHE thinks NY isn&#039;t getting a big enough slice of the pie. WTF??!  What self-serving b*&amp;$!! Sorry, fellow libs, but I totally agree with this post and all the comments thus far berating hillary. Disagree?? Please, feel free to shed some light on why this is justified. Ironically, it was Bill who pushed for fully funding the RW program back in &#039;93. Politics DO make strange bedfellows.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a liberal dem., and was always kinda neutral on hillary (never really liked or disliked her, even though I haven&#8217;t agreed with all of her views), until now. This REALLY PISSES me off. How DARE she hold up reauthorizing the Ryan White Care fund just because SHE thinks NY isn&#8217;t getting a big enough slice of the pie. WTF??!  What self-serving b*&amp;$!! Sorry, fellow libs, but I totally agree with this post and all the comments thus far berating hillary. Disagree?? Please, feel free to shed some light on why this is justified. Ironically, it was Bill who pushed for fully funding the RW program back in &#8217;93. Politics DO make strange bedfellows.</p>
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		<title>By: Bobo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bobo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Aug 2006 17:25:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My. Homophobic and racist at the same time. This has just a bit more impact on peoples lives than macaca. Any question if any of the usual suspects will denounce this two for one bigotry? My guess is that it&#039;s OK because somehow it&#039;s Bush&#039;s fault.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My. Homophobic and racist at the same time. This has just a bit more impact on peoples lives than macaca. Any question if any of the usual suspects will denounce this two for one bigotry? My guess is that it&#8217;s OK because somehow it&#8217;s Bush&#8217;s fault.</p>
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		<title>By: North Dallas Thirty</title>
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		<dc:creator>North Dallas Thirty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Aug 2006 16:21:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The reason Hillary wants to protect HIV/AIDS funding as it is now is simple; it&#039;s in the perfect balance for what she needs.

She can claim at cocktail parties for white liberal gays how she protected their money.

She can claim at black church fundraisers that &quot;those Republicans&quot; just try to keep blacks down by not approving more funding for them amd reinforce their victimization and dependence on her.

This redistribution of funds based on where they&#039;re actually needed neutralizes her on both sides -- which is why she is fighting it so vehemently.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The reason Hillary wants to protect HIV/AIDS funding as it is now is simple; it&#8217;s in the perfect balance for what she needs.</p>
<p>She can claim at cocktail parties for white liberal gays how she protected their money.</p>
<p>She can claim at black church fundraisers that &#8220;those Republicans&#8221; just try to keep blacks down by not approving more funding for them amd reinforce their victimization and dependence on her.</p>
<p>This redistribution of funds based on where they&#8217;re actually needed neutralizes her on both sides &#8212; which is why she is fighting it so vehemently.</p>
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		<title>By: Leah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Aug 2006 16:19:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Meanwhile President Bush has been sending millions of dollars to Africa to help combat Aids. Oops, New York isn&#039;t in Africa, so that doesn&#039;t count does it?

Politicians always look at the bottom line, at this point it is not the votes Hillary is looking for, it is donated dollars. Those dollars won&#039;t be coming from the poor Black community, but they will be coming from all those beaurocrats who make their living in the vast Aids industry. If any of those people lose their jobs due to the new law, no donations to Hillary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Meanwhile President Bush has been sending millions of dollars to Africa to help combat Aids. Oops, New York isn&#8217;t in Africa, so that doesn&#8217;t count does it?</p>
<p>Politicians always look at the bottom line, at this point it is not the votes Hillary is looking for, it is donated dollars. Those dollars won&#8217;t be coming from the poor Black community, but they will be coming from all those beaurocrats who make their living in the vast Aids industry. If any of those people lose their jobs due to the new law, no donations to Hillary.</p>
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		<title>By: Rick Priebe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rick Priebe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Aug 2006 15:17:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One of the problems with this legislation is that it considers only SOME of the Ryan White funding. When all Ryan White funding is analyzed, that &quot;gap&quot; in Federal funding per patient is &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.caear.org/coalition/pdf/CAEAR_Funding?Analysis.pdf&quot; title=&quot;&quot;&gt;significantly less than is being claimed by the bill&#039;s supporters.&lt;/a&gt;

Additionally, the Severity of Need Index (SONI) factors in state and local resources that have been committed to closing the gap between available Federal funding and existing service needs. The result of that formula will be the shifting of funding from states that supplemented Ryan White funding to states that have not made a similar commitment.

Full disclosure: I&#039;m Director of Client Services for an ASO in upstate New York. V the K is certainly correct that, considering the magnitude of spending on AIDS services, we need to be looking at the amount of money that we&#039;re spending and the effectiveness of the programs that it supports, particularly so-called prevention programs that don&#039;t seem to be reaching the people that it needs to -- though God knows that you&#039;d think everyone would have gotten the message after 25 years of AIDS.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the problems with this legislation is that it considers only SOME of the Ryan White funding. When all Ryan White funding is analyzed, that &#8220;gap&#8221; in Federal funding per patient is <a href="http://www.caear.org/coalition/pdf/CAEAR_Funding?Analysis.pdf" title="">significantly less than is being claimed by the bill&#8217;s supporters.</a></p>
<p>Additionally, the Severity of Need Index (SONI) factors in state and local resources that have been committed to closing the gap between available Federal funding and existing service needs. The result of that formula will be the shifting of funding from states that supplemented Ryan White funding to states that have not made a similar commitment.</p>
<p>Full disclosure: I&#8217;m Director of Client Services for an ASO in upstate New York. V the K is certainly correct that, considering the magnitude of spending on AIDS services, we need to be looking at the amount of money that we&#8217;re spending and the effectiveness of the programs that it supports, particularly so-called prevention programs that don&#8217;t seem to be reaching the people that it needs to &#8212; though God knows that you&#8217;d think everyone would have gotten the message after 25 years of AIDS.</p>
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		<title>By: Michigan-Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michigan-Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Aug 2006 15:00:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A further cynic might also wonder why AIDS activists in SF and NYC would, through their silence, hazard help for those in greater need elsewhere.  Corruption in big cities isn&#039;t just limited to govt --I guess it&#039;s part of AIDS activism too.

If one can&#039;t get a stable program in place with alternate local sustainable funding sources after 20+ years, should they even be in the business of AIDS advocacy and assistance?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A further cynic might also wonder why AIDS activists in SF and NYC would, through their silence, hazard help for those in greater need elsewhere.  Corruption in big cities isn&#8217;t just limited to govt &#8211;I guess it&#8217;s part of AIDS activism too.</p>
<p>If one can&#8217;t get a stable program in place with alternate local sustainable funding sources after 20+ years, should they even be in the business of AIDS advocacy and assistance?</p>
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		<title>By: V the K</title>
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		<dc:creator>V the K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Aug 2006 12:42:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A cynic might wonder how many billions of dollars are tied up in the AIDS industry, and who benefits economically from a disease that has been mostly behaviorally preventable since at least 1984?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A cynic might wonder how many billions of dollars are tied up in the AIDS industry, and who benefits economically from a disease that has been mostly behaviorally preventable since at least 1984?</p>
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