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		<title>By: Michigan-Matt</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2006/08/29/did-katrina-save-lives/#comment-56272</link>
		<dc:creator>Michigan-Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Aug 2006 11:24:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John asks "When did Wizbang become part of the Gay Left?"

LOL!  That nails it' let's put the coffin in the trench.</description>
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<p>LOL!  That nails it&#8217; let&#8217;s put the coffin in the trench.</p>
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		<title>By: Ashley Hunter</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2006/08/29/did-katrina-save-lives/#comment-56273</link>
		<dc:creator>Ashley Hunter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Aug 2006 07:33:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To raj in #16, I don't think I misspoke.  According to a friend of mine, who is a professional meterologist, New Orleans was not technically "hit" by Katrina because a "hit" is determined by where the hurricane eye makes landfall.  That was well to the east of New Orleans.  Yes, New Orleans was impacted by the western side of the storm although there was minimal wind damage in the city.  As I said in my original comment, it was Katrina's winds blowing across Lake Pontchartrain that created a storm surge that overwhelmed the flood control canals and levees.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To raj in #16, I don&#8217;t think I misspoke.  According to a friend of mine, who is a professional meterologist, New Orleans was not technically &#8220;hit&#8221; by Katrina because a &#8220;hit&#8221; is determined by where the hurricane eye makes landfall.  That was well to the east of New Orleans.  Yes, New Orleans was impacted by the western side of the storm although there was minimal wind damage in the city.  As I said in my original comment, it was Katrina&#8217;s winds blowing across Lake Pontchartrain that created a storm surge that overwhelmed the flood control canals and levees.</p>
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		<title>By: John in IL</title>
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		<dc:creator>John in IL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Aug 2006 02:02:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;but to the GayLeft it didn’t hit NO… it wasn’t even a Cat 3 when it made landfall… it was a Cat 1 when it hit NO&lt;/i&gt;

When did &lt;i&gt;Wizbang&lt;/i&gt; become part of the Gay Left?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>but to the GayLeft it didn’t hit NO… it wasn’t even a Cat 3 when it made landfall… it was a Cat 1 when it hit NO</i></p>
<p>When did <i>Wizbang</i> become part of the Gay Left?</p>
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		<title>By: Michigan-Matt</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2006/08/29/did-katrina-save-lives/#comment-56275</link>
		<dc:creator>Michigan-Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Aug 2006 12:21:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh and keogh-of-the-lower-case-clan, for the record I'm not a "rightie" (sic) either.  I'm a progressive GOPer known within the party as a Ripon Republican... to the righties, I'm a Republican-in-name-only (RINO).  Most radical GayLeftists like you don't care about that distinction --you only see "GOP" and go bonkers.

But I am a fiscal conservative, an anti-tax classic liberal economist and someone who thinks people like you and your worldview make America unsafe and dangerous for our children... plus, unlike you, I can comprehend the written word of others.

Rather than spew and vent the nonsense handed out on the radical fringe porch of the Democrat Plantation, stop and think for yourself for just once, keogh.  You'll be amazed at how different reality is from the spin you've been given in DailyDoses... DailyKos, DailyShow.  LOL.  Get serious, keogh.  The debate issues are too important to be reduced to your rants.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh and keogh-of-the-lower-case-clan, for the record I&#8217;m not a &#8220;rightie&#8221; (sic) either.  I&#8217;m a progressive GOPer known within the party as a Ripon Republican&#8230; to the righties, I&#8217;m a Republican-in-name-only (RINO).  Most radical GayLeftists like you don&#8217;t care about that distinction &#8211;you only see &#8220;GOP&#8221; and go bonkers.</p>
<p>But I am a fiscal conservative, an anti-tax classic liberal economist and someone who thinks people like you and your worldview make America unsafe and dangerous for our children&#8230; plus, unlike you, I can comprehend the written word of others.</p>
<p>Rather than spew and vent the nonsense handed out on the radical fringe porch of the Democrat Plantation, stop and think for yourself for just once, keogh.  You&#8217;ll be amazed at how different reality is from the spin you&#8217;ve been given in DailyDoses&#8230; DailyKos, DailyShow.  LOL.  Get serious, keogh.  The debate issues are too important to be reduced to your rants.</p>
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		<title>By: Michigan-Matt</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2006/08/29/did-katrina-save-lives/#comment-56276</link>
		<dc:creator>Michigan-Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Aug 2006 11:24:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let's see, Cat 5 surge... devasting hurricane...

but to the GayLeft it didn't hit NO... it wasn't even a Cat 3 when it made landfall... it was a Cat 1 when it hit NO (sic).

What? Have all you guys been tuned into Anderson Cooper's tin foil hat this week?  I can't tell: are you being a fool on purpose or just a tool by default?

It's amazing how the spin nonsense out of DailyKos can have such staying power among those who need to believe it is true.  Need it to be true.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s see, Cat 5 surge&#8230; devasting hurricane&#8230;</p>
<p>but to the GayLeft it didn&#8217;t hit NO&#8230; it wasn&#8217;t even a Cat 3 when it made landfall&#8230; it was a Cat 1 when it hit NO (sic).</p>
<p>What? Have all you guys been tuned into Anderson Cooper&#8217;s tin foil hat this week?  I can&#8217;t tell: are you being a fool on purpose or just a tool by default?</p>
<p>It&#8217;s amazing how the spin nonsense out of DailyKos can have such staying power among those who need to believe it is true.  Need it to be true.</p>
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		<title>By: Calarato</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2006/08/29/did-katrina-save-lives/#comment-56277</link>
		<dc:creator>Calarato</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Aug 2006 04:57:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#13 - Correction keogh - It's just like YOU to blabber on ignorantly (i.e., without knowledge) about what "we righties" supposedly think.

For starters, many of us here on GP certainly aren't righties.  I for one am a fairly extreme social liberal, and, after being a 15+ year Democrat, am currently a registered Independent.

For another, you blabber on and on about your preconceptions without referring to or quoting specific individuals' specific comments.  Thus - you are blabbering to your own mirror, nothing more.

Those are the reasons I have learned to (normally) not even read you, most of the time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#13 - Correction keogh - It&#8217;s just like YOU to blabber on ignorantly (i.e., without knowledge) about what &#8220;we righties&#8221; supposedly think.</p>
<p>For starters, many of us here on GP certainly aren&#8217;t righties.  I for one am a fairly extreme social liberal, and, after being a 15+ year Democrat, am currently a registered Independent.</p>
<p>For another, you blabber on and on about your preconceptions without referring to or quoting specific individuals&#8217; specific comments.  Thus - you are blabbering to your own mirror, nothing more.</p>
<p>Those are the reasons I have learned to (normally) not even read you, most of the time.</p>
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		<title>By: ndtovent</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Aug 2006 04:32:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I've always thought that the ACE was incompetent, at least for the last 40 years or so. The levies collapsing in NOLA is just more proof of that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve always thought that the ACE was incompetent, at least for the last 40 years or so. The levies collapsing in NOLA is just more proof of that.</p>
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		<title>By: VinceTN</title>
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		<dc:creator>VinceTN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Aug 2006 04:04:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I feel much of the city deserves to be rebuilt and better protected.  Even so, I can only hope the horrible policies of local adminstrations of the last several decades will be rejected or at least modified to reduce the apathy and helplessness of so many people in one area.  That's what led to the tragedy.  The people are entitled to ask for help but they are not entitled to demand restoration without significant outlays of their own in both money and commitment to running a better city than in the past.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel much of the city deserves to be rebuilt and better protected.  Even so, I can only hope the horrible policies of local adminstrations of the last several decades will be rejected or at least modified to reduce the apathy and helplessness of so many people in one area.  That&#8217;s what led to the tragedy.  The people are entitled to ask for help but they are not entitled to demand restoration without significant outlays of their own in both money and commitment to running a better city than in the past.</p>
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		<title>By: raj</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Aug 2006 03:49:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#12 Ashley Hunter &#8212; August 29, 2006 @ 9:07 pm - August 29, 2006

&lt;i&gt;Katrina did not hit New Orleans. It moved east, just brushing New Orleans. But the strong backside winds &#8220;pushed&#8221; Lake Pontchartrain into the flood control canals and over some levees.&lt;/i&gt;

Actually, Katrina did indeed hit NOLA.  It is true that the eye of the storm went east of NOLA, but NOLA was hit by the full brunt of the western part of the storm.  With a hurricane, the eastern part of the storm is mostly rain, with a lot of wind.  But the western part has far less rain, but substantially more wind.  That is one of the things that is often forgotten about a hurricane.*  And, quite frankly, the wind can do a lot more damage than the rainfall.

I don't know for sure, but with NOLA it is likely that it was the wind, acting on the waters of Lake Ponchartrain, that caused the levees to break and flood the city.  Note where the wind would have been coming from: the east and the northeast, exactly the directions that would have been optimal to cause the lake's waters to break the levees.

*Actually, here in Europe, we have hurricanes.  Hurricanes are classified, not by the amount of rainfall that they provide, but by the speed of the wind.  They are almost classified like tornadoes (note to Matty: Wirbelstuerme).  There aren't a lot of them, but they do happen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#12 Ashley Hunter &#8212; August 29, 2006 @ 9:07 pm - August 29, 2006</p>
<p><i>Katrina did not hit New Orleans. It moved east, just brushing New Orleans. But the strong backside winds &#8220;pushed&#8221; Lake Pontchartrain into the flood control canals and over some levees.</i></p>
<p>Actually, Katrina did indeed hit NOLA.  It is true that the eye of the storm went east of NOLA, but NOLA was hit by the full brunt of the western part of the storm.  With a hurricane, the eastern part of the storm is mostly rain, with a lot of wind.  But the western part has far less rain, but substantially more wind.  That is one of the things that is often forgotten about a hurricane.*  And, quite frankly, the wind can do a lot more damage than the rainfall.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know for sure, but with NOLA it is likely that it was the wind, acting on the waters of Lake Ponchartrain, that caused the levees to break and flood the city.  Note where the wind would have been coming from: the east and the northeast, exactly the directions that would have been optimal to cause the lake&#8217;s waters to break the levees.</p>
<p>*Actually, here in Europe, we have hurricanes.  Hurricanes are classified, not by the amount of rainfall that they provide, but by the speed of the wind.  They are almost classified like tornadoes (note to Matty: Wirbelstuerme).  There aren&#8217;t a lot of them, but they do happen.</p>
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		<title>By: sean</title>
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		<dc:creator>sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Aug 2006 03:29:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is this seriously how you spend the year anniversary of this thing?  It didn't hit NO; it was really just a sun shower; the ACE didn't do a good job; the mayor shouldn't attack the good people of nyc (who are rather confused these days as to exactly what the latest 'new' design for the tower and memorial even look like this week); the city has a French heritage and that explains it all; and on and on and on?

An American city.  Mostly gone.  Say it again:  An American city.  Mostly gone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is this seriously how you spend the year anniversary of this thing?  It didn&#8217;t hit NO; it was really just a sun shower; the ACE didn&#8217;t do a good job; the mayor shouldn&#8217;t attack the good people of nyc (who are rather confused these days as to exactly what the latest &#8216;new&#8217; design for the tower and memorial even look like this week); the city has a French heritage and that explains it all; and on and on and on?</p>
<p>An American city.  Mostly gone.  Say it again:  An American city.  Mostly gone.</p>
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		<title>By: Miss Grundy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Miss Grundy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Aug 2006 03:25:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cat Shmat.

Americans who live below sea level must be prepared to face the consequences.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cat Shmat.</p>
<p>Americans who live below sea level must be prepared to face the consequences.</p>
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		<title>By: keogh</title>
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		<dc:creator>keogh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Aug 2006 03:06:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What really bugs me is you rightists keep trying to blame the victims of this hurricane.  By comparing it to folks living in a trailer park, you can say "well the people of the golf coast should have known better"
These typical rightist analogies are bunk
Its just like you rightists for blaming victims....very similar to when a gal gets raped, you say "well she shouldn't have been out after dark"</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What really bugs me is you rightists keep trying to blame the victims of this hurricane.  By comparing it to folks living in a trailer park, you can say &#8220;well the people of the golf coast should have known better&#8221;<br />
These typical rightist analogies are bunk<br />
Its just like you rightists for blaming victims&#8230;.very similar to when a gal gets raped, you say &#8220;well she shouldn&#8217;t have been out after dark&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Ashley Hunter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ashley Hunter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Aug 2006 01:07:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The storm surge built up while Katrina was still a Category 5.  In most places along the Mississippi Coast the Katrina storm surge, which does most of the structural damage, was about ten feet higher than the storm surge produced by Hurricane Camille in 1969. which made landfall as a Category 5 and is considered one of the most powerful hurricanes to ever hit the U. S.

Katrina did not hit New Orleans.  It moved east, just brushing New Orleans.  But the strong backside winds "pushed" Lake Pontchartrain into the flood control canals and over some levees.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The storm surge built up while Katrina was still a Category 5.  In most places along the Mississippi Coast the Katrina storm surge, which does most of the structural damage, was about ten feet higher than the storm surge produced by Hurricane Camille in 1969. which made landfall as a Category 5 and is considered one of the most powerful hurricanes to ever hit the U. S.</p>
<p>Katrina did not hit New Orleans.  It moved east, just brushing New Orleans.  But the strong backside winds &#8220;pushed&#8221; Lake Pontchartrain into the flood control canals and over some levees.</p>
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		<title>By: Calarato</title>
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		<dc:creator>Calarato</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Aug 2006 00:14:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just for the record: I seem to remember Katrina hitting NO as cat 3 when it hit N.O.

AND - Re-read Bruce's post.  It almost doesn't matter what cat it was.  The levees were going to break when hit by a cat 3, 4 or 5.  The levees did the damage (not the storm) in N.O.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just for the record: I seem to remember Katrina hitting NO as cat 3 when it hit N.O.</p>
<p>AND - Re-read Bruce&#8217;s post.  It almost doesn&#8217;t matter what cat it was.  The levees were going to break when hit by a cat 3, 4 or 5.  The levees did the damage (not the storm) in N.O.</p>
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		<title>By: keogh</title>
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		<dc:creator>keogh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Aug 2006 21:49:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Matt,
Read the first paragraph of
“Tropical Cyclone Report Hurricane Katrina”   23-30 August 2005
Richard D. Knabb, Jamie R. Rhome, and Daniel P. Brown
National Hurricane Center 20 December 2005
I quote
“After reaching Category 5 intensity over the central Gulf of Mexico, Katrina weakened to Category 3 before making landfall on the northern Gulf coast.”
http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/pdf/TCR-AL122005_Katrina.pdf

You can try to play your semantic, NRO games with me, but it WAS a Cat 3 when it hit
Obviously I know what I am talking about.  Learn to listen to people who know more.
You might not make a fool out yourself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt,<br />
Read the first paragraph of<br />
“Tropical Cyclone Report Hurricane Katrina”   23-30 August 2005<br />
Richard D. Knabb, Jamie R. Rhome, and Daniel P. Brown<br />
National Hurricane Center 20 December 2005<br />
I quote<br />
“After reaching Category 5 intensity over the central Gulf of Mexico, Katrina weakened to Category 3 before making landfall on the northern Gulf coast.”<br />
<a href="http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/pdf/TCR-AL122005_Katrina.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/pdf/TCR-AL122005_Katrina.pdf</a></p>
<p>You can try to play your semantic, NRO games with me, but it WAS a Cat 3 when it hit<br />
Obviously I know what I am talking about.  Learn to listen to people who know more.<br />
You might not make a fool out yourself.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Aug 2006 21:27:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you follow the link in the blockquote above, it was a cat 1 by the time it hit New Orleans.

No need for a big debate, just follow the links.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you follow the link in the blockquote above, it was a cat 1 by the time it hit New Orleans.</p>
<p>No need for a big debate, just follow the links.</p>
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		<title>By: Michigan-Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michigan-Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Aug 2006 21:24:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>keogh, I didn't have the benefit of your expert insights before I posted at #7.  I think your error is that you want to spin facts to suit DailyKos TalkingPt conclusions... doesn't work here.  Your still accountable even when you're flat out wrong.  Do your homework and put down the talking points.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>keogh, I didn&#8217;t have the benefit of your expert insights before I posted at #7.  I think your error is that you want to spin facts to suit DailyKos TalkingPt conclusions&#8230; doesn&#8217;t work here.  Your still accountable even when you&#8217;re flat out wrong.  Do your homework and put down the talking points.</p>
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		<title>By: Michigan-Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michigan-Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Aug 2006 21:21:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>just me, right.

Someone better tell the national weather service bureau and hurricane center that you think it wasn't even a Cat 3 when it hit NO.

The experts say you're wrong on it "not even being a Cat 3" --it was declared a Cat 5 exactly 24 hours before making landfall and four hours later Nagin ordered a mandatory evac... but don't take the buses... unless they're union-member Regional Transit Authority buses.  Of course, by then, the looting had already started with some of the corrupt police leading the party.

http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:F_y2v-cOrNgJ:www.brookings.edu/fp/projects/homeland/katrinatimeline.pdf+katrina+cat+5+landfall&#38;hl=en&#38;gl=us&#38;ct=clnk&#38;cd=5

Of course it dropped to a Cat 4 --as do all hurricanes-- when it made landfall but it then had a Cat 5 surge.

You are being intellectually dishonest to say it wasn't a Cat 5... and you're just flat out wrong to write it wasn't even a Cat 3.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>just me, right.</p>
<p>Someone better tell the national weather service bureau and hurricane center that you think it wasn&#8217;t even a Cat 3 when it hit NO.</p>
<p>The experts say you&#8217;re wrong on it &#8220;not even being a Cat 3&#8243; &#8211;it was declared a Cat 5 exactly 24 hours before making landfall and four hours later Nagin ordered a mandatory evac&#8230; but don&#8217;t take the buses&#8230; unless they&#8217;re union-member Regional Transit Authority buses.  Of course, by then, the looting had already started with some of the corrupt police leading the party.</p>
<p><a href="http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:F_y2v-cOrNgJ:www.brookings.edu/fp/projects/homeland/katrinatimeline.pdf+katrina+cat+5+landfall&amp;hl=en&amp;gl=us&amp;ct=clnk&amp;cd=5" rel="nofollow">http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:F_y2v-cOrNgJ:www.brookings.edu/fp/projects/homeland/katrinatimeline.pdf+katrina+cat+5+landfall&amp;hl=en&amp;gl=us&amp;ct=clnk&amp;cd=5</a></p>
<p>Of course it dropped to a Cat 4 &#8211;as do all hurricanes&#8211; when it made landfall but it then had a Cat 5 surge.</p>
<p>You are being intellectually dishonest to say it wasn&#8217;t a Cat 5&#8230; and you&#8217;re just flat out wrong to write it wasn&#8217;t even a Cat 3.</p>
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		<title>By: keogh</title>
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		<dc:creator>keogh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Aug 2006 21:11:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Matt, before making apples to oranges comparisons, try to get your facts straight....jeez...
It was a Cat 1 when it hit Florida and at most a cat 3 when it hit the Gulf Coast.
- It was stated the levees could handle this intense of a storm but as we all know the ACE did a flawed job.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt, before making apples to oranges comparisons, try to get your facts straight&#8230;.jeez&#8230;<br />
It was a Cat 1 when it hit Florida and at most a cat 3 when it hit the Gulf Coast.<br />
- It was stated the levees could handle this intense of a storm but as we all know the ACE did a flawed job.</p>
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		<title>By: just me</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2006/08/29/did-katrina-save-lives/#comment-56291</link>
		<dc:creator>just me</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Aug 2006 20:29:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Katrina wasn't a class 5 hurricane when it hit.  I think it was a cat 4 in Mississippi, and wasn't even a cat 3 in NO.

Katrina was a class 5 while it was still at sea, but slowed down some as it approached.

It was still a mean, nasty, brutal hurricane, but it wasn't a cat 5.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Katrina wasn&#8217;t a class 5 hurricane when it hit.  I think it was a cat 4 in Mississippi, and wasn&#8217;t even a cat 3 in NO.</p>
<p>Katrina was a class 5 while it was still at sea, but slowed down some as it approached.</p>
<p>It was still a mean, nasty, brutal hurricane, but it wasn&#8217;t a cat 5.</p>
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