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		<title>By: Yehudit</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yehudit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Oct 2006 00:29:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I didn&#039;t meet you either!  You and NZ Bear. I think I met everyone else.</description>
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		<title>By: Jim G</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Sep 2006 03:32:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Partisanship is fun and stimulating.  I, for one, enjoy hearing from people with opposing points of view.  And I like to hear why they think they way they do.  I do not believe that the problem has anything to do with the points of view themselves, however closely held they might be.  For me, the problem has become the level of discourse.  We have witnessed the rise of the Ann Coulter/Al Franken &quot;school&quot; of political discourse.  One one hand Coulter&#039;s book &quot;How to talk to a Liberal if you must&quot; (Oh, please Ann, forgive them for breathing) and Franken&#039;s &quot;Rush Limbaugh is a big fat idiot&quot; (what university did he get that phrase from) now seem to be mimicked more than I like. How about Hannity and Colmes (a windbag and a wimp).  And I agree and disagree with things said by all of the above.  But put them all (or even part) on the same show and they are all so full of themselves that they cannot bear to allow anyone else the privilege of completing one single sentence without being interrupted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Partisanship is fun and stimulating.  I, for one, enjoy hearing from people with opposing points of view.  And I like to hear why they think they way they do.  I do not believe that the problem has anything to do with the points of view themselves, however closely held they might be.  For me, the problem has become the level of discourse.  We have witnessed the rise of the Ann Coulter/Al Franken &#8220;school&#8221; of political discourse.  One one hand Coulter&#8217;s book &#8220;How to talk to a Liberal if you must&#8221; (Oh, please Ann, forgive them for breathing) and Franken&#8217;s &#8220;Rush Limbaugh is a big fat idiot&#8221; (what university did he get that phrase from) now seem to be mimicked more than I like. How about Hannity and Colmes (a windbag and a wimp).  And I agree and disagree with things said by all of the above.  But put them all (or even part) on the same show and they are all so full of themselves that they cannot bear to allow anyone else the privilege of completing one single sentence without being interrupted.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Hughes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Hughes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Sep 2006 20:34:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Synova, I&#039;ve always said that the greater number of bumper-snickers on a car (especially those shrill lefty ones), the lower the IQ of the driver.  And more often than not, they all look as if they hate their life.

My favorite one is &quot;I&#039;m too smart to vote Republican.&quot;

I guess you must be that stupid to vote demoncRAT.

Regards,
Peter H.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Synova, I&#8217;ve always said that the greater number of bumper-snickers on a car (especially those shrill lefty ones), the lower the IQ of the driver.  And more often than not, they all look as if they hate their life.</p>
<p>My favorite one is &#8220;I&#8217;m too smart to vote Republican.&#8221;</p>
<p>I guess you must be that stupid to vote demoncRAT.</p>
<p>Regards,<br />
Peter H.</p>
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		<title>By: Synova</title>
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		<dc:creator>Synova</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Sep 2006 20:03:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>True.

It actually may have been better had I said Republican rather than Libertarian because I really wonder how he&#039;d have responded to that.    I *almost* said pro-war libertarian, but as much as I enjoy discussing politics I had no desire whatsoever to get into an argument in a place that shouldn&#039;t have to be political.

What did he think he was going to say if I answered Republican?   &quot;Oh, nevermind?&quot;

Is it just me, or are Democrats more prone to assuming that the people around them will agree with their politics?   Is it the same dynamic that guarentees that if the vehicle in front of you has more than two bumper stickers that they&#039;re going to be lefty bumper stickers?   (When there&#039;s only two they might be NRA and pro-life.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>True.</p>
<p>It actually may have been better had I said Republican rather than Libertarian because I really wonder how he&#8217;d have responded to that.    I *almost* said pro-war libertarian, but as much as I enjoy discussing politics I had no desire whatsoever to get into an argument in a place that shouldn&#8217;t have to be political.</p>
<p>What did he think he was going to say if I answered Republican?   &#8220;Oh, nevermind?&#8221;</p>
<p>Is it just me, or are Democrats more prone to assuming that the people around them will agree with their politics?   Is it the same dynamic that guarentees that if the vehicle in front of you has more than two bumper stickers that they&#8217;re going to be lefty bumper stickers?   (When there&#8217;s only two they might be NRA and pro-life.)</p>
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		<title>By: Michigan-Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michigan-Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Sep 2006 19:05:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Synova, at least your karate peer gave you a choice.  Here, in the People&#039;s Republic of Ann Arbor, when I listen to someone spout off the DailyKos line and I offer &quot;Well, maybe that isn&#039;t exactly the whole truth&quot; (here in A2, conservatives have learned that if you do want to discuss something with the moonbat brigade you need to slowly warm them up to the notion that there are valid alternative ideas to the DemocratDailyShowSpeak)... I usually get asked &quot;Wait, you aren&#039;t a Republican, are you?&quot;  or worse &quot;You aren&#039;t defending them are you&quot;?

And at gay parties, the viciousness of the sneer in those questions is directly related to the lateness of the evening.

At least in your orbit, they ask.  Right, they&#039;re wrong to think there are only 2 legit parties... but at least they ask.  Here, if you don&#039;t carry the water for the Left, the DNC or the GayLeftBorg... you run smack dab into intolerance and bigotry... and I think, ignorance on a palatial scale.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Synova, at least your karate peer gave you a choice.  Here, in the People&#8217;s Republic of Ann Arbor, when I listen to someone spout off the DailyKos line and I offer &#8220;Well, maybe that isn&#8217;t exactly the whole truth&#8221; (here in A2, conservatives have learned that if you do want to discuss something with the moonbat brigade you need to slowly warm them up to the notion that there are valid alternative ideas to the DemocratDailyShowSpeak)&#8230; I usually get asked &#8220;Wait, you aren&#8217;t a Republican, are you?&#8221;  or worse &#8220;You aren&#8217;t defending them are you&#8221;?</p>
<p>And at gay parties, the viciousness of the sneer in those questions is directly related to the lateness of the evening.</p>
<p>At least in your orbit, they ask.  Right, they&#8217;re wrong to think there are only 2 legit parties&#8230; but at least they ask.  Here, if you don&#8217;t carry the water for the Left, the DNC or the GayLeftBorg&#8230; you run smack dab into intolerance and bigotry&#8230; and I think, ignorance on a palatial scale.</p>
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		<title>By: Synova</title>
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		<dc:creator>Synova</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Sep 2006 17:18:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Libertarians come in more than one flavor.   There&#039;s isolationists who oppose mucking around overseas in any form and there are those who see international intervention as necessary self-defense.  There are pro-life libertarians and pro-choice libertarians.   Some libertarians are nearly anarchist while others accept that an extensive government is unavoidable but would like to keep it as small and unobstrusive as possible.

As far as partisanship goes, my main problem with it is the labeling.   Last night a friend (whom I&#039;m now convinced never misses his daily KOS) said he was going to break his rule of never talking politics at karate and asked if I was Republican or Democrat... as though those are the only choices.

There are things about having two major parties that contribute to national stability but the two parties and the assumptions they operate under are very similar, they need to be because they have to compete for the same majority.   That&#039;s okay.   Maybe it&#039;s even a good thing.   But it hardly represents the depth or breadth of political thought.

For me, Glenn Reynolds isn&#039;t hard to label as a pro-active defense libertarian of the non-anarchic pro-choice variety.   But that isn&#039;t anywhere on the bi-polar political graph and it&#039;s a fact.

Yet, if you think about Instapundit&#039;s popularity it&#039;s likely an indication that the pro-active defense libertarian non-anarchic pro-choice &quot;legally married gay couples with assault rifles in their closets&quot; is a stronger political segment than it might seem at first glance.   Not that his readers all agree, but that his readers don&#039;t find any of those things off-putting enough *not* to read him.

Yet he&#039;s labeled &quot;right-wing&quot; right next to all the other &quot;right-wing&quot; bloggers.

Missing the fact that there is a great deal of political diversity to choose from out there is a sad thing.   &quot;Are you Republican or Democrat&quot; lets us off the hook for thinking about government at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Libertarians come in more than one flavor.   There&#8217;s isolationists who oppose mucking around overseas in any form and there are those who see international intervention as necessary self-defense.  There are pro-life libertarians and pro-choice libertarians.   Some libertarians are nearly anarchist while others accept that an extensive government is unavoidable but would like to keep it as small and unobstrusive as possible.</p>
<p>As far as partisanship goes, my main problem with it is the labeling.   Last night a friend (whom I&#8217;m now convinced never misses his daily KOS) said he was going to break his rule of never talking politics at karate and asked if I was Republican or Democrat&#8230; as though those are the only choices.</p>
<p>There are things about having two major parties that contribute to national stability but the two parties and the assumptions they operate under are very similar, they need to be because they have to compete for the same majority.   That&#8217;s okay.   Maybe it&#8217;s even a good thing.   But it hardly represents the depth or breadth of political thought.</p>
<p>For me, Glenn Reynolds isn&#8217;t hard to label as a pro-active defense libertarian of the non-anarchic pro-choice variety.   But that isn&#8217;t anywhere on the bi-polar political graph and it&#8217;s a fact.</p>
<p>Yet, if you think about Instapundit&#8217;s popularity it&#8217;s likely an indication that the pro-active defense libertarian non-anarchic pro-choice &#8220;legally married gay couples with assault rifles in their closets&#8221; is a stronger political segment than it might seem at first glance.   Not that his readers all agree, but that his readers don&#8217;t find any of those things off-putting enough *not* to read him.</p>
<p>Yet he&#8217;s labeled &#8220;right-wing&#8221; right next to all the other &#8220;right-wing&#8221; bloggers.</p>
<p>Missing the fact that there is a great deal of political diversity to choose from out there is a sad thing.   &#8220;Are you Republican or Democrat&#8221; lets us off the hook for thinking about government at all.</p>
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		<title>By: Attmay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Attmay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Sep 2006 16:52:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re mixed up there. Jesse Helms was an &lt;i&gt;anti&lt;/i&gt;-homo bigot. You, Dee&#039;s older brother, are the homo bigot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re mixed up there. Jesse Helms was an <i>anti</i>-homo bigot. You, Dee&#8217;s older brother, are the homo bigot.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Hughes</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2006/09/27/report-from-pjm-event-at-national-press-club/comment-page-1/#comment-57640</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Hughes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Sep 2006 14:38:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And of course, it takes BS to know BS, right Eva Braun?

Regards,
Peter H.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And of course, it takes BS to know BS, right Eva Braun?</p>
<p>Regards,<br />
Peter H.</p>
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		<title>By: raj</title>
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		<dc:creator>raj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Sep 2006 14:28:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From the post

&lt;i&gt;As Glenn Reynolds said last night — “You can’t label me when I yearn for a world of legally married gay couples with assault weapons in their closets.”&lt;/i&gt;

Actually, I might label Reynolds--a libertarian.  Unfortunately for libertarians, they have become little more than Republicans who want to smoke pot--marijuana.

Why do I say that?  In 1988, Ron Paul was the Libertarian Party&#039;s candidate for president.  I voted for him--it was a protest vote, of course, since I would not vote for either of the major party candidates, Bush I or Dukakis, both of whom I loathed.  Fast forward several years.  We received a fund-raising letter signed by Paul, then &lt;i&gt;Republican&lt;/i&gt; member of the House from Texas, on hehalf of &lt;i&gt;Jesse Helms&lt;/i&gt;, homo-bigot extraordinaire.

The long and the short of it is that libertarians are BS, as is Glenn Reynolds.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From the post</p>
<p><i>As Glenn Reynolds said last night — “You can’t label me when I yearn for a world of legally married gay couples with assault weapons in their closets.”</i></p>
<p>Actually, I might label Reynolds&#8211;a libertarian.  Unfortunately for libertarians, they have become little more than Republicans who want to smoke pot&#8211;marijuana.</p>
<p>Why do I say that?  In 1988, Ron Paul was the Libertarian Party&#8217;s candidate for president.  I voted for him&#8211;it was a protest vote, of course, since I would not vote for either of the major party candidates, Bush I or Dukakis, both of whom I loathed.  Fast forward several years.  We received a fund-raising letter signed by Paul, then <i>Republican</i> member of the House from Texas, on hehalf of <i>Jesse Helms</i>, homo-bigot extraordinaire.</p>
<p>The long and the short of it is that libertarians are BS, as is Glenn Reynolds.</p>
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		<title>By: GayPatriot</title>
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		<dc:creator>GayPatriot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Sep 2006 13:58:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>keogh (#12) - The entire room reacted with a laugh and applause, thank you very much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>keogh (#12) &#8211; The entire room reacted with a laugh and applause, thank you very much.</p>
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		<title>By: Attmay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Attmay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Sep 2006 22:02:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#11: Everytime Congress attempts to even question Public Broadcasting, the press spins it as a Republican attack on Big Bird and Mr. Rogers. Well, Mr. Rogers is dead and Sesame Street doesn&#039;t need PBS as much as PBS needs Sesame Street. That show is a billion-dollar-a-year cash cow (or rather frog) through all the toys, videos, DVDs (including an upcoming one aimed at nostalgic adults who watched it in the Elmo-less &quot;good old days&quot;) they have sold.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#11: Everytime Congress attempts to even question Public Broadcasting, the press spins it as a Republican attack on Big Bird and Mr. Rogers. Well, Mr. Rogers is dead and Sesame Street doesn&#8217;t need PBS as much as PBS needs Sesame Street. That show is a billion-dollar-a-year cash cow (or rather frog) through all the toys, videos, DVDs (including an upcoming one aimed at nostalgic adults who watched it in the Elmo-less &#8220;good old days&#8221;) they have sold.</p>
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		<title>By: keogh</title>
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		<dc:creator>keogh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Sep 2006 20:49:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bruce,
What was the reaction of the pajamaites when:  &quot;Glenn Reynolds said last night — “You can’t label me when I yearn for a world of legally married gay couples with assault weapons in their closets.”</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bruce,<br />
What was the reaction of the pajamaites when:  &#8220;Glenn Reynolds said last night — “You can’t label me when I yearn for a world of legally married gay couples with assault weapons in their closets.”</p>
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		<title>By: Michigan-Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michigan-Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Sep 2006 19:05:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NDXXX, wow --what a flat out shocking admission from one of the MSM&#039;s WORST offenders when it comes to curbing ideological bias, Ms Greenhouse.  It would only be more surprising if it came from Bill Moyers or Mike Wallace.

What was surprising to me was that someone at NPR thought Greenhouse&#039;s statement wasn&#039;t just the normal way of doing business at the 4th Estate.  NPR is roundly criticized annually for their ideological bias in producing stories, editing stories, choosing guest commentators, stacking their public affairs panels with Left-of-Center aliens wearing tinfoil hats, etc.

For me the telling line in the piece was

&quot;NPR said top New York Times editors Bill Keller and Jill Abramson declined to be interviewed.&quot;

I doubt they think there&#039;s anything wrong with what Ms Greenhouse said... maybe they&#039;d rather have it kept quiet though.

I still can&#039;t believe a GOP majority in Congress can&#039;t seem to gut appropriations for NPR, PBS, CPB or others.  It is a vast cultural wasteland populated with partisan malcontents and false intellectualism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NDXXX, wow &#8211;what a flat out shocking admission from one of the MSM&#8217;s WORST offenders when it comes to curbing ideological bias, Ms Greenhouse.  It would only be more surprising if it came from Bill Moyers or Mike Wallace.</p>
<p>What was surprising to me was that someone at NPR thought Greenhouse&#8217;s statement wasn&#8217;t just the normal way of doing business at the 4th Estate.  NPR is roundly criticized annually for their ideological bias in producing stories, editing stories, choosing guest commentators, stacking their public affairs panels with Left-of-Center aliens wearing tinfoil hats, etc.</p>
<p>For me the telling line in the piece was</p>
<p>&#8220;NPR said top New York Times editors Bill Keller and Jill Abramson declined to be interviewed.&#8221;</p>
<p>I doubt they think there&#8217;s anything wrong with what Ms Greenhouse said&#8230; maybe they&#8217;d rather have it kept quiet though.</p>
<p>I still can&#8217;t believe a GOP majority in Congress can&#8217;t seem to gut appropriations for NPR, PBS, CPB or others.  It is a vast cultural wasteland populated with partisan malcontents and false intellectualism.</p>
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		<title>By: North Dallas Thirty</title>
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		<dc:creator>North Dallas Thirty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Sep 2006 16:53:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And, more specifically, to that &lt;a href=&quot;http://msnbc.msn.com/id/15026618/&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;New York Times&lt;/i&gt; cough&lt;/a&gt;..........</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And, more specifically, to that <a href="http://msnbc.msn.com/id/15026618/"><i>New York Times</i> cough</a>&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Scheie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric Scheie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Sep 2006 02:09:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wish I&#039;d seen your tag! I was there and would love to have met you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wish I&#8217;d seen your tag! I was there and would love to have met you.</p>
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		<title>By: anon</title>
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		<dc:creator>anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Sep 2006 18:59:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, isn&#039;t America the best, Chase?  We should all thank our lucky stars to live in this country!!  (serious)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, isn&#8217;t America the best, Chase?  We should all thank our lucky stars to live in this country!!  (serious)</p>
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		<title>By: Michigan-Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michigan-Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Sep 2006 18:34:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Taking a second bite at Bruce&#039;s apple... at work we were talking about partisanship in the press and one of our staff-professors and nacent historian noted that Geo Washington, Adams, Jefferson, Hamilton and others were fairly thin skinned about partisan sniping from the press and at least 3 of those 4 used their own press organs to cast question on the motives and intent of their political opponents.

Maybe the questions of &quot;How partisan is too partisan&quot; or &quot;Is the press biased&quot; should be asked &quot;Is the ideal of a non-partisan press necessary to a functioning democracy&quot;?  I simply think most Americans see the press now as very biased and partisan... and we can thank Fox, Rush, Dr Laura and lots of others for unmasking a conventional wisdom.

The press has always been partisan.  Politicians have used it to great advantage.  Journalists shouldn&#039;t be viewed as any more or less ethically challenged than a partisan political operative or office holder.

We really ought to be talking about &quot;are federal and state judges too partisan&quot;.  There&#039;s the last fallacy awaiting discovery.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Taking a second bite at Bruce&#8217;s apple&#8230; at work we were talking about partisanship in the press and one of our staff-professors and nacent historian noted that Geo Washington, Adams, Jefferson, Hamilton and others were fairly thin skinned about partisan sniping from the press and at least 3 of those 4 used their own press organs to cast question on the motives and intent of their political opponents.</p>
<p>Maybe the questions of &#8220;How partisan is too partisan&#8221; or &#8220;Is the press biased&#8221; should be asked &#8220;Is the ideal of a non-partisan press necessary to a functioning democracy&#8221;?  I simply think most Americans see the press now as very biased and partisan&#8230; and we can thank Fox, Rush, Dr Laura and lots of others for unmasking a conventional wisdom.</p>
<p>The press has always been partisan.  Politicians have used it to great advantage.  Journalists shouldn&#8217;t be viewed as any more or less ethically challenged than a partisan political operative or office holder.</p>
<p>We really ought to be talking about &#8220;are federal and state judges too partisan&#8221;.  There&#8217;s the last fallacy awaiting discovery.</p>
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		<title>By: Chase</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chase</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Sep 2006 18:27:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I used to talk to Jeff Gannon online back when he was... ahem... selling.  I never met him though because I was a teenager at the time and he lived in Delaware. It&#039;s fascinating that he is this successful blogger now and is widely known.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I used to talk to Jeff Gannon online back when he was&#8230; ahem&#8230; selling.  I never met him though because I was a teenager at the time and he lived in Delaware. It&#8217;s fascinating that he is this successful blogger now and is widely known.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Hughes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Hughes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Sep 2006 17:27:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike, I appreciate your honesty, candor and above all, your rationality.  These are three qualities which, I am sorry to say, are in short supply on your side of the aisle.

On behalf of us &quot;vast right-wing conspirators,&quot; welcome to the block.

My only comment is that the NYT used to be the paper of record.  But with the likes of Jayson Blair, Howell Raines, Thomas Friedman, Adam Clymer and Pinch Sulzberger echoing through those hallowed hallways, the NYT has now turned into the agit-prop vehicle of the DNC.  And sad to say, they embrace this role without regret.  Witness the most recent &quot;leaked&quot; security information fiasco.

I hope they can turn the public&#039;s perception around, but I doubt it.

Regards,
Peter H.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike, I appreciate your honesty, candor and above all, your rationality.  These are three qualities which, I am sorry to say, are in short supply on your side of the aisle.</p>
<p>On behalf of us &#8220;vast right-wing conspirators,&#8221; welcome to the block.</p>
<p>My only comment is that the NYT used to be the paper of record.  But with the likes of Jayson Blair, Howell Raines, Thomas Friedman, Adam Clymer and Pinch Sulzberger echoing through those hallowed hallways, the NYT has now turned into the agit-prop vehicle of the DNC.  And sad to say, they embrace this role without regret.  Witness the most recent &#8220;leaked&#8221; security information fiasco.</p>
<p>I hope they can turn the public&#8217;s perception around, but I doubt it.</p>
<p>Regards,<br />
Peter H.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Sep 2006 16:06:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Peter, I agree in part and disagree in part.  I agree that the MSM should be more willing to admit they are biased.  But on the flip side, I think most people recognize that it&#039;s biased, and more and more we are seeking out media outlets that we think are more in line with our own political leanings.

And of course the blogosphere is one way of doing that.  I remain concerned, however, that the blogosphere has too much of a tendency to boil everything down to a soundbite, much like television.  Say what you will about the NYT and the Washington Post et.al. (and I qualify this by saying that I am of the liberal persuasion), those publications are perhaps a better source of in-depth reporting than our television news generally is.  The same goes for the reliable conservative WSJ, which I also think is a great paper.

Just a few random thoughts on it, from the pinko left :-P

Mike</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peter, I agree in part and disagree in part.  I agree that the MSM should be more willing to admit they are biased.  But on the flip side, I think most people recognize that it&#8217;s biased, and more and more we are seeking out media outlets that we think are more in line with our own political leanings.</p>
<p>And of course the blogosphere is one way of doing that.  I remain concerned, however, that the blogosphere has too much of a tendency to boil everything down to a soundbite, much like television.  Say what you will about the NYT and the Washington Post et.al. (and I qualify this by saying that I am of the liberal persuasion), those publications are perhaps a better source of in-depth reporting than our television news generally is.  The same goes for the reliable conservative WSJ, which I also think is a great paper.</p>
<p>Just a few random thoughts on it, from the pinko left <img src='http://www.gaypatriot.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':-P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Mike</p>
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