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Okay… say it all together now….. IT IS ALL BUSH’S FAULT.

-Bruce (GayPatriot)



  1. What, no comment from our resident patriot’s regarding Republican Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist’s statement yesterday that the Taliban is too popular to be defeated and that we must welcome them into the Afghan government?

    Will you not condemen Senator Frist for being soft on terrorism?

    Comment by Chase — October 3, 2006 @ 6:26 pm - October 3, 2006

  2. I will. I think he’s pandering.

    It may not be a bad thing for the Taliban to be in the Afghan government, but it had better be under the same terms as Sinn Fein’s entering Northern Ireland — last chance, boys, give up your guns and join the democratic process, and if you don’t play nice, you’re out.

    That being said, I find it more than ironic that Democrats who had no problems with the Taliban being the whole government of Afghanistan are suddenly upset about it being a portion.

    And now, Chase, how about those Democrats like Cindy Sheehan, who opposed the Afghan war?

    Comment by North Dallas Thirty — October 3, 2006 @ 6:32 pm - October 3, 2006

  3. Yea, if Cindy Sheehan opposed the Afghnistan War (I don’t know if she did as I don’t follow much of what she says), then I disagree with that. The overwhelming majority of Democrats supported the invasion of Afghanistan and I think most still support the coalition mission there.

    However, I think it’s a bad idea to open the doors of the Afghan government to the Taliban. It is just not an option. It’s a real surprise Senator Frist would advocate that. It will confuse voters. And I think it may prove harmful to the GOP chances next month. It could become an issue in the pivotal Senate race for the seat Frist is vacating.

    Comment by Chase — October 3, 2006 @ 7:14 pm - October 3, 2006

  4. Chase, Sen. Frist was quoted out of context, thanks to the al-AP reporter who was questioning him.

    And if you think that the word of someone working for a corrupt news agency should be taken over that of a US senator, then we know where your allegiances lay.

    Peter H.

    Comment by Peter Hughes — October 3, 2006 @ 7:27 pm - October 3, 2006

  5. “Approaching counterinsurgency by winning hearts and minds will ultimately be the answer. Military versus insurgency one-to-one doesn’t sound like it can be won.”

    In context, out of context, I think that statement speaks for itself.

    And as for the AP, the Associated Press is an American news organization founded in 1846. It is as American as McDonald’s. If you don’t like the AP, you don’t like America.

    Comment by Chase — October 3, 2006 @ 7:40 pm - October 3, 2006

  6. captialism does not equal democracy

    Comment by Kevin — October 3, 2006 @ 8:14 pm - October 3, 2006

  7. Are you suggesting that people who hate McDonalds are un-American, Chase?

    Comment by Frank IBC — October 3, 2006 @ 9:27 pm - October 3, 2006

  8. I prefer Wendy’s. Deport me!

    Comment by Attmay — October 3, 2006 @ 9:33 pm - October 3, 2006

  9. Chase, you obviously haven’t been clued in to the AP’s fabrication of stories (i.e. the alleged Koran-flushing episode at Club Gitmo).

    Or how about the case of Bilal Hussein, an AP photographer who was discovered by American troops in a Ramadi apartment with an alleged al Qaeda leader and a weapons cache, and who tested positive for explosives?

    See here for some eye-opening revelations:

    In my book, AP is as “unbiased” and as “American” as al-Jazeera. And just as dangerous.

    Peter H.

    Comment by Peter Hughes — October 3, 2006 @ 10:42 pm - October 3, 2006

  10. captialism does not equal democracy

    Sufficient condition, no. Necessary condition, yes.

    Comment by Frank IBC — October 3, 2006 @ 11:06 pm - October 3, 2006

  11. NDT,
    I am glad to see you have come around and understand that engagement is only way to win this war.
    I for one applaud Senator First in saying what other rightists won’t.
    The war on terrorism cannot be won by toppling regimes and hoping democracy flourishes.
    It must be won through engagement.

    Comment by keogh — October 4, 2006 @ 9:23 am - October 4, 2006

  12. keogh, I’m equally glad to see you finallly embrace the WOT, pre-emptive strikes and holding nation-states accountable for incubating and cultivating terrorism. The Bush Administration is proving that “engagement” works. It’s a tough slog but well worth it for our security and for peace prospects in the muslim world.

    As you unwittingly point out, bringing “democracy” to flourish in these countries was always the goal of the Bush Administration’s policy of constructive engagement through the application of discreet military, economic and diplomatic force.

    Yes, keogh, “engagement” does work. Now, let’s have you get your fellow GayLeftBorg robots to appreciate same, ok? I think some of them –who aren’t of the JohnMurtha Cut&Run School– think that proper engagement is sort of like Geo McGovern’s old plan to end the VietNam War… “First, we give every VietCong $1,000”. Or that we hang the Karzai govt out to swing while we depart Afghanistan like the Democrat Congress did with South Viet Nam.

    It’s good to see you repudiate the Democrat Party policies of appeasement and dishonor in favor of “engagement”.

    Comment by Michigan-Matt — October 4, 2006 @ 9:44 am - October 4, 2006

  13. Chase, btw, Frist clarified the statement wrongly attributed to him by the AP reporter, as Peter rightly guessed above…


    “I’m currently overseas visiting our troops in Afghanistan, but I wanted to take a moment to address an Associated Press story titled, “Frist: Taliban Should Be in Afghan Gov’t.” The story badly distorts my remarks and takes them out of context.

    First of all, let me make something clear: The Taliban is a murderous band of terrorists who’ve oppressed the people of Afghanistan with their hateful ideology long enough. America’s overthrow of the Taliban and support for responsible, democratic governance in Afghanistan is a great accomplishment that should not and will not be reversed.

    Having discussed the situation with commanders on the ground, I believe that we cannot stabilize Afghanistan purely through military means. Our counter-insurgency strategy must win hearts and minds and persuade moderate Islamists potentially sympathetic to the Taliban to accept the legitimacy of the Afghan national government and democratic political processes.

    National reconciliation is a necessary and an urgent priority … but America will never negotiate with terrorists or support their entry into Afghanistan’s government.”

    Context, in context, out-of-context probably doesn’t matter to you –but it does to honorable, honest people.

    And that says loads about your penchant to indict –ignoring the facts that get in your way.

    By my speculation, you’re now ready to become the House Democrat’s next leader, Chase. Congrats.

    Comment by Michigan-Matt — October 4, 2006 @ 10:03 am - October 4, 2006

  14. Democracy is the only thing that Bush talks about nowadays as all of his other reasons, WMDs, make us safer etc have been proven false. – And now that you admit that Democracy was always his goal, you admit he blatantly lied to Congress, the UN and the American people when he took the country to war under false pretenses
    – I love the honesty of the Right today.
    Sen. First implies that war is the wrong way to go, NDT proves that Clinton’s strategy of fighting the IRA is the model we should use to fight terrorism and then you admit that Bush lied to the country.
    Rightists are seeing the light and hell has not frozen over!
    A great day.

    Comment by keogh — October 4, 2006 @ 10:38 am - October 4, 2006


    ” And even U.S. dollar investors should not be so ecstatic about the Dow average’s recent gyrations. Inflation and surging commodities prices have reduced the value of the greenback in real terms, notes Peter Schiff, president of Darien, Connecticut-based Euro Pacific Capital.

    That means the Dow average would need to pass 13,700 to get to real record territory, according to Schiff.”

    Comment by Garf — October 4, 2006 @ 10:41 am - October 4, 2006


    Wow, so in nearly 7 years since the last record, if I had held a portfolio of all the stocks in the Dow, it’d have gone up by … drum roll… 0.04%. Thanks Dubya!

    Comment by Ian — October 4, 2006 @ 11:16 am - October 4, 2006

  17. I would like to join ian in thanking the President for the terrific economy hispolicies have engendered for our great country. While european countries have been struggling to increase their GDP by an anemic 1-2% annually ours has jumped a remarkable 3-5%. Our modern society has endured the most deadly attack in our history and come back strong. We’ve rebounded from the misty imaginary tech bubble of the 90’s. The country and it’s people have not wavered despite natural disasters like hurricanes to actually free over 40 million people in far away lands so they can enjoy freedom and watch their children participate in a future of prosperity. Americans through their government are sending unprecidented aid for HIV AIDS victims and prevention on the African continent. When corporate dishonesty and corruption rears its ugly head this administration prosecutes the individuals to the fullest. Also keeping the confidence of peoples of the world in our large and expanding economy. Yes, thank you Mr President. For a job well done. (BTW gasoline here in central Pennsylvania today $2.07!!) God Bless America.

    Comment by Gene in Pennsylvania — October 4, 2006 @ 11:52 am - October 4, 2006

  18. NDT proves that Clinton’s strategy of fighting the IRA is the model we should use to fight terrorism

    Which was to ignore the fact that the IRA was lying when it said it would disarm and force through a “peace” anyway.

    Just like he did with the Palestinians.

    What Frist is talking about it allowing the Taliban to participate, but only with a clear warning and enforcement up front that the price of participation is their disarmament, not their agreement to disarm.

    What YOU are talking about, Keogh, is that terrorist groups should be allowed to be in government without disarming — which leads only to other Clinton “successes” like the Palestinian intifada and the numerous IRA murders and assassinations that took place after the Good Friday accords.

    Comment by North Dallas Thirty — October 4, 2006 @ 12:25 pm - October 4, 2006

  19. Actually, what I think keogh is really offering is that we ought to capitulate to the Taliban, thrown in the towel, open our Foreign Aid Treasury to them and hope that they won’t hurt us too bad once they rearm, refocus, man-up, train and launch the next series of attacks against fellow Americans on the trains, in the subways, at the malls, or in the air.

    keogh, Prez Bush always had “democracy” in his sights for Afghanistan and Iraq… it’s just the GayLeftBorg who hasn’t been listening who would like to believe its all about WMDs or a personal vendetta against the Bush family or Big Oil or some other lamebrained and dismissed rationale.

    But thanks for noting that “engagement” is working. You can thank Geo Bush in 50 years when you finally come to your senses.

    Comment by Michigan-Matt — October 4, 2006 @ 1:34 pm - October 4, 2006

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