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	<title>Comments on: GOP to Hang On By Skin of Its Teeth This Fall?</title>
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		<title>By: kdogg36</title>
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		<dc:creator>kdogg36</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Oct 2006 15:33:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;Well, if kdogg and Coolbreeze are comfortable helping unreconstructed socialists whose ideal form of government is judicial oligarchy take power because the GOP is not ideologically pure enough for them, I guess that’s a legitimate position.&lt;/b&gt;

Well, it&#039;s not that the GOP isn&#039;t &quot;ideologically pure enough.&quot;  It&#039;s that is has nothing to offer me.  Back in 1994, I thought it did have something to offer and that the GOP would move things in the right direction, but I was quite young and maybe a little naive at the time.  Since then, government has only gotten bigger, more authoritarian, and indeed more socialist in a number of ways.

As for the claim that I help the Democrats win by not voting for the GOP, that can be refuted with straightforward logic.  I have many Democrat friends, and they say exactly the opposite, that I help the GOP by not voting for Democrats.

Now, both claims cannot be right -- I can&#039;t be helping both parties win by not voting for either of them.  Furthermore, the symmetry of the situation is such that either both claims must be right, or both of them wrong.  Therefore, both claims are wrong.  By voting for a non-establishment candidate, I don&#039;t help either one; in my tiny way, I oppose both of them, and that&#039;s exactly what I want to do with my vote.

&lt;b&gt;The conservative wing of the Republican Party … which does not include President Bush … does uphold limits to governments and limited spending. But they are too often outflanked by northeastern liberals and southern opportunist RINO’s.&lt;/b&gt;

If the Republicans deliver on some of their promises from 1994 -- abolishing cabinet departments, de-federalizing education, slashing the budget -- then I&#039;ll vote for them again.  But they&#039;ve got to deliver at least some of the goods before I&#039;ll even consider it.  I&#039;ve been fooled before.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Well, if kdogg and Coolbreeze are comfortable helping unreconstructed socialists whose ideal form of government is judicial oligarchy take power because the GOP is not ideologically pure enough for them, I guess that’s a legitimate position.</b></p>
<p>Well, it&#8217;s not that the GOP isn&#8217;t &#8220;ideologically pure enough.&#8221;  It&#8217;s that is has nothing to offer me.  Back in 1994, I thought it did have something to offer and that the GOP would move things in the right direction, but I was quite young and maybe a little naive at the time.  Since then, government has only gotten bigger, more authoritarian, and indeed more socialist in a number of ways.</p>
<p>As for the claim that I help the Democrats win by not voting for the GOP, that can be refuted with straightforward logic.  I have many Democrat friends, and they say exactly the opposite, that I help the GOP by not voting for Democrats.</p>
<p>Now, both claims cannot be right &#8212; I can&#8217;t be helping both parties win by not voting for either of them.  Furthermore, the symmetry of the situation is such that either both claims must be right, or both of them wrong.  Therefore, both claims are wrong.  By voting for a non-establishment candidate, I don&#8217;t help either one; in my tiny way, I oppose both of them, and that&#8217;s exactly what I want to do with my vote.</p>
<p><b>The conservative wing of the Republican Party … which does not include President Bush … does uphold limits to governments and limited spending. But they are too often outflanked by northeastern liberals and southern opportunist RINO’s.</b></p>
<p>If the Republicans deliver on some of their promises from 1994 &#8212; abolishing cabinet departments, de-federalizing education, slashing the budget &#8212; then I&#8217;ll vote for them again.  But they&#8217;ve got to deliver at least some of the goods before I&#8217;ll even consider it.  I&#8217;ve been fooled before.</p>
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		<title>By: V the K</title>
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		<dc:creator>V the K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Oct 2006 13:51:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, if kdogg and Coolbreeze are comfortable helping unreconstructed socialists whose ideal form of government is judicial oligarchy take power because the GOP is not ideologically pure enough for them, I guess that&#039;s a legitimate position.

When I was in college, I would have considered myself libertarian, but I grew out of it. And it wasn&#039;t because libertarians could never get power, it was because libertarians uphold some ideas that I thought were just too destructive, such as unlimited immigration, unlimited abortion, unlimited drug availability. (As a foster parent, I&#039;ve seen the damage drugs do to families, and especially children, and therefore I could never support unconditional drug legalization).

I mean, libertarianism is a nice philosophy. One of the worlds in my sci-fi novels is, essentially, governed by libertarian principles and is very pleasant. But, on planet Earth, in the 21st century, in the real world, and with the current state of man, contemporary libertarianism seems to often to dodge reality and practicality in pursuit of pure ideology that takes no account of human or social consequences.

The conservative wing of the Republican Party ... which does not include President Bush ... does uphold limits to governments and limited spending. But they are too often outflanked by northeastern liberals and southern opportunist RINO&#039;s. Ultimately, though, I prefer Conservatism too libertarianism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, if kdogg and Coolbreeze are comfortable helping unreconstructed socialists whose ideal form of government is judicial oligarchy take power because the GOP is not ideologically pure enough for them, I guess that&#8217;s a legitimate position.</p>
<p>When I was in college, I would have considered myself libertarian, but I grew out of it. And it wasn&#8217;t because libertarians could never get power, it was because libertarians uphold some ideas that I thought were just too destructive, such as unlimited immigration, unlimited abortion, unlimited drug availability. (As a foster parent, I&#8217;ve seen the damage drugs do to families, and especially children, and therefore I could never support unconditional drug legalization).</p>
<p>I mean, libertarianism is a nice philosophy. One of the worlds in my sci-fi novels is, essentially, governed by libertarian principles and is very pleasant. But, on planet Earth, in the 21st century, in the real world, and with the current state of man, contemporary libertarianism seems to often to dodge reality and practicality in pursuit of pure ideology that takes no account of human or social consequences.</p>
<p>The conservative wing of the Republican Party &#8230; which does not include President Bush &#8230; does uphold limits to governments and limited spending. But they are too often outflanked by northeastern liberals and southern opportunist RINO&#8217;s. Ultimately, though, I prefer Conservatism too libertarianism.</p>
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		<title>By: DanielFTL</title>
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		<dc:creator>DanielFTL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Oct 2006 07:22:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CoolBreezeTX, I commend you for voting libertarian.  I hate that &quot;wasted-vote&quot; talk as if you as a citizen don&#039;t have a right to vote for whomever you like and you should, as a good sheep, vote for the major party, whichever it may be.  We really saw this after 2000 when Democrats actively criticized those who voted for the Greens (Nader).

On another related, but different topic, I don&#039;t vote Republican, but I have to hold my nose when I vote Democrat more often than I care to admit.  Democrats are just as much schmucks as Republicans, just for different reasons.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CoolBreezeTX, I commend you for voting libertarian.  I hate that &#8220;wasted-vote&#8221; talk as if you as a citizen don&#8217;t have a right to vote for whomever you like and you should, as a good sheep, vote for the major party, whichever it may be.  We really saw this after 2000 when Democrats actively criticized those who voted for the Greens (Nader).</p>
<p>On another related, but different topic, I don&#8217;t vote Republican, but I have to hold my nose when I vote Democrat more often than I care to admit.  Democrats are just as much schmucks as Republicans, just for different reasons.</p>
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		<title>By: CoolBreezeTX</title>
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		<dc:creator>CoolBreezeTX</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Oct 2006 03:05:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you kdogg, for making the truth clear.  I supported Republicans all the way up to 2000.  I was particularly active from 1988 to 1998, and worked actively on campains related to the 1994 election.  I was so proud that Republicans had taken those houses, and really expected things to change for the better.  The Contract with America was a sure-fire bet for that.

Only... it wasn&#039;t.  By 1998 I saw little reason to believe the lies anymore.

Since supporting commies and liberals isn&#039;t an option either, I chose the libertarians.  Even now, realizing that they have no chance of winning, I&#039;ll still vote for what I believe from now on, rather than making concessions to liars and thieves.

I suppose this kind of response will garner accusations of being a liberal from those who seem to think that I must support Republicans and Conservatives in general, regardless of how often they fail.  I mean, so far that kind of response seems to be the order of the day from a few of the regular posters.   I&#039;ll apologize in advance for not being able to &quot;seig heil&quot; very well.  I&#039;d take lessons in that, if they weren&#039;t so danged expensive, especially in the long-term.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you kdogg, for making the truth clear.  I supported Republicans all the way up to 2000.  I was particularly active from 1988 to 1998, and worked actively on campains related to the 1994 election.  I was so proud that Republicans had taken those houses, and really expected things to change for the better.  The Contract with America was a sure-fire bet for that.</p>
<p>Only&#8230; it wasn&#8217;t.  By 1998 I saw little reason to believe the lies anymore.</p>
<p>Since supporting commies and liberals isn&#8217;t an option either, I chose the libertarians.  Even now, realizing that they have no chance of winning, I&#8217;ll still vote for what I believe from now on, rather than making concessions to liars and thieves.</p>
<p>I suppose this kind of response will garner accusations of being a liberal from those who seem to think that I must support Republicans and Conservatives in general, regardless of how often they fail.  I mean, so far that kind of response seems to be the order of the day from a few of the regular posters.   I&#8217;ll apologize in advance for not being able to &#8220;seig heil&#8221; very well.  I&#8217;d take lessons in that, if they weren&#8217;t so danged expensive, especially in the long-term.</p>
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		<title>By: kdogg36</title>
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		<dc:creator>kdogg36</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Oct 2006 18:50:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh!  There&#039;s one thing that I forgot to add.

Yesterday my family and I were discussing the internet gambling ban over lunch (yes, we&#039;re like that! :)).  The wording of the law gives the government the authority to order internet entities to remove hyperlinks to sites that violate this law.  What this means, for one thing, is that the government could order Google not to provide search results for internet gambling sites or financial institutions that deal with them.

This is kind of funny/scary, considering that representatives from Google had to appear before Congress earlier this year to defend itself for doing exactly the same thing for the communist government of China.

I kind of suspect that the government would never enforce this part of the law.  In a weird way, I hope they do, because it would cause a big media stir and legislators might think twice about doing this sort of thing in the future.

I know that an internet gambling ban can&#039;t be seen as a major issue given what else is going on in the world, but could there be any plainer an example of the government&#039;s (and both establishment parties&#039;) basic disgregard for individual freedom... for letting us live our lives and spend our money in whatever peaceful manner we choose?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh!  There&#8217;s one thing that I forgot to add.</p>
<p>Yesterday my family and I were discussing the internet gambling ban over lunch (yes, we&#8217;re like that! <img src='http://www.gaypatriot.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> ).  The wording of the law gives the government the authority to order internet entities to remove hyperlinks to sites that violate this law.  What this means, for one thing, is that the government could order Google not to provide search results for internet gambling sites or financial institutions that deal with them.</p>
<p>This is kind of funny/scary, considering that representatives from Google had to appear before Congress earlier this year to defend itself for doing exactly the same thing for the communist government of China.</p>
<p>I kind of suspect that the government would never enforce this part of the law.  In a weird way, I hope they do, because it would cause a big media stir and legislators might think twice about doing this sort of thing in the future.</p>
<p>I know that an internet gambling ban can&#8217;t be seen as a major issue given what else is going on in the world, but could there be any plainer an example of the government&#8217;s (and both establishment parties&#8217;) basic disgregard for individual freedom&#8230; for letting us live our lives and spend our money in whatever peaceful manner we choose?</p>
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		<title>By: kdogg36</title>
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		<dc:creator>kdogg36</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Oct 2006 18:25:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;Umm, except for the Katrina stuff, everything in your first paragraph only apply to terrorists and their supporters. Most people, but sadly few libertarians, understand that in wartime, you have to fight the enemy and monitor their activities. Since I haven’t been plotting any terrorism, or calling Al Qaeda, my rights have not been infringed at all.&lt;/b&gt;

I don&#039;t trust the government to use these powers only for good purposes.  We&#039;re not &lt;i&gt;supposed&lt;/i&gt; to just trust them -- there has to be accountability, which is why warrants have to be issued, for instance.  Giving government the power to monitor communications about terrorism is one thing; it&#039;s quite another thing to trust government to stick within those bounds without having to account for its choices.  That&#039;s exactly what the Fourth Amendment is about.

Anyhow, when is the GOP going to get around to abolishing cabinet departments and de-federalizing education? :)  It&#039;s very much a part of my critique that they&#039;ve continued the same kind of growth in the power and scope of government that most Republicans were promising to put a stop to ten or twelve years ago.

&lt;b&gt;There’s legitimate concern, and then there’s tinfoil-hat paranoia.&lt;/b&gt;

Let&#039;s keep the discourse civil and assume basic good will on each side when discussing these things, at least whenever possible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Umm, except for the Katrina stuff, everything in your first paragraph only apply to terrorists and their supporters. Most people, but sadly few libertarians, understand that in wartime, you have to fight the enemy and monitor their activities. Since I haven’t been plotting any terrorism, or calling Al Qaeda, my rights have not been infringed at all.</b></p>
<p>I don&#8217;t trust the government to use these powers only for good purposes.  We&#8217;re not <i>supposed</i> to just trust them &#8212; there has to be accountability, which is why warrants have to be issued, for instance.  Giving government the power to monitor communications about terrorism is one thing; it&#8217;s quite another thing to trust government to stick within those bounds without having to account for its choices.  That&#8217;s exactly what the Fourth Amendment is about.</p>
<p>Anyhow, when is the GOP going to get around to abolishing cabinet departments and de-federalizing education? <img src='http://www.gaypatriot.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   It&#8217;s very much a part of my critique that they&#8217;ve continued the same kind of growth in the power and scope of government that most Republicans were promising to put a stop to ten or twelve years ago.</p>
<p><b>There’s legitimate concern, and then there’s tinfoil-hat paranoia.</b></p>
<p>Let&#8217;s keep the discourse civil and assume basic good will on each side when discussing these things, at least whenever possible.</p>
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		<title>By: V the K</title>
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		<dc:creator>V the K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Oct 2006 17:04:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Umm, except for the Katrina stuff, everything in your first paragraph only apply to terrorists and their supporters. Most people, but sadly few libertarians, understand that in wartime, you have to fight the enemy and monitor their activities. Since I haven&#039;t been plotting any terrorism, or calling Al Qaeda, my rights have not been infringed at all.

There&#039;s legitimate concern, and then there&#039;s tinfoil-hat paranoia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Umm, except for the Katrina stuff, everything in your first paragraph only apply to terrorists and their supporters. Most people, but sadly few libertarians, understand that in wartime, you have to fight the enemy and monitor their activities. Since I haven&#8217;t been plotting any terrorism, or calling Al Qaeda, my rights have not been infringed at all.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s legitimate concern, and then there&#8217;s tinfoil-hat paranoia.</p>
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		<title>By: kdogg36</title>
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		<dc:creator>kdogg36</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Oct 2006 16:22:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, there&#039;s the First Amendment (the Fred Phelps law and &quot;free-speech zones&quot;), the Second Amendment (ordering the National Guard to seize guns in New Orleans after Katrina), the Fourth Amendment (warrantless wiretapping), and the Fifth and Sixth Amendments (no habeas corpus or fair trials for those designated as enemy combatants).

Once again, I am not saying that Bush is the sole source of the problem -- far from it.  On the Second Amendment, obviously, the liberals are far worse.  I am just saying that government size and power has continued to increase under Bush and the GOP, and I think a few lines have been crossed in the wake of 9/11.

When I complain about the rise of state power, I&#039;m also talking about things like the increased federalization of education (which is the opposite of what the GOP promised circa 1994 when I supported them), increases in spending even aside from military expenditures, and smaller but blatant violations of individual freedom like the recent internet gambling ban.

I don&#039;t think anyone can tell me with a straight face these days that Bush and the GOP are friends of individual freedom and smaller government.  If they were, I&#039;d probably still be working within the Republican Party rather than dreaming of a new system entirely.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, there&#8217;s the First Amendment (the Fred Phelps law and &#8220;free-speech zones&#8221;), the Second Amendment (ordering the National Guard to seize guns in New Orleans after Katrina), the Fourth Amendment (warrantless wiretapping), and the Fifth and Sixth Amendments (no habeas corpus or fair trials for those designated as enemy combatants).</p>
<p>Once again, I am not saying that Bush is the sole source of the problem &#8212; far from it.  On the Second Amendment, obviously, the liberals are far worse.  I am just saying that government size and power has continued to increase under Bush and the GOP, and I think a few lines have been crossed in the wake of 9/11.</p>
<p>When I complain about the rise of state power, I&#8217;m also talking about things like the increased federalization of education (which is the opposite of what the GOP promised circa 1994 when I supported them), increases in spending even aside from military expenditures, and smaller but blatant violations of individual freedom like the recent internet gambling ban.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think anyone can tell me with a straight face these days that Bush and the GOP are friends of individual freedom and smaller government.  If they were, I&#8217;d probably still be working within the Republican Party rather than dreaming of a new system entirely.</p>
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		<title>By: V the K</title>
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		<dc:creator>V the K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Oct 2006 13:58:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;I am someone who is far more troubled by the increase in State power than the threat of Islamic terrorists&lt;/i&gt;

And I bet you also can&#039;t name for me a single one of my Constitutional Rights or civil liberties that has been infringed by the &quot;increase in state power&quot; under the Bush Admin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I am someone who is far more troubled by the increase in State power than the threat of Islamic terrorists</i></p>
<p>And I bet you also can&#8217;t name for me a single one of my Constitutional Rights or civil liberties that has been infringed by the &#8220;increase in state power&#8221; under the Bush Admin.</p>
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		<title>By: kdogg36</title>
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		<dc:creator>kdogg36</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Oct 2006 11:51:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#57: I didn&#039;t pledge not to have follow-up questions or comments. :)  I certainly understand that you don&#039;t wish to invest any more time in the conversation, and I appreciate the answer you gave.

Accept my bait?  I am not here to cause drama or mischief, and I hope that I have never been less than polite.  There really does seem to be a pervasive knee-jerk hostility here towards people who aren&#039;t on board with the GOP... yours is very mild, which once again I appreciate.

I ask these questions because I suspect that I share many of the principles of those here who describe themselves as conservative, but strongly disagree that the GOP embodies them well enough to earn my support (anymore).  Obviously no one has an obligation to answer these questions, but I think it could be a fruitful discussion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#57: I didn&#8217;t pledge not to have follow-up questions or comments. <img src='http://www.gaypatriot.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   I certainly understand that you don&#8217;t wish to invest any more time in the conversation, and I appreciate the answer you gave.</p>
<p>Accept my bait?  I am not here to cause drama or mischief, and I hope that I have never been less than polite.  There really does seem to be a pervasive knee-jerk hostility here towards people who aren&#8217;t on board with the GOP&#8230; yours is very mild, which once again I appreciate.</p>
<p>I ask these questions because I suspect that I share many of the principles of those here who describe themselves as conservative, but strongly disagree that the GOP embodies them well enough to earn my support (anymore).  Obviously no one has an obligation to answer these questions, but I think it could be a fruitful discussion.</p>
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		<title>By: Calarato</title>
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		<dc:creator>Calarato</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Oct 2006 02:56:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You may have misunderstood the nature of my answer.  I was trying to oblige you by answering a question you had claimed to be asking sincerely.  I did not ask you (in my turn) for additional opinions nor engage you in debate.  I know something of your opinions and why they&#039;re wrong, but I don&#039;t have time to go into it; perhaps someone else wants to accept your bait.  Bye now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You may have misunderstood the nature of my answer.  I was trying to oblige you by answering a question you had claimed to be asking sincerely.  I did not ask you (in my turn) for additional opinions nor engage you in debate.  I know something of your opinions and why they&#8217;re wrong, but I don&#8217;t have time to go into it; perhaps someone else wants to accept your bait.  Bye now.</p>
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		<title>By: kdogg36</title>
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		<dc:creator>kdogg36</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Oct 2006 02:15:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also, does anyone have an answer to my post at the start of this thread?  Or doesn&#039;t it matter, because the Global War on Terror excuses all the other broken promises and eclipses any other considerations?  (I am someone who is far more troubled by the increase in State power than the threat of Islamic terrorists, though I certainly don&#039;t discount that threat.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, does anyone have an answer to my post at the start of this thread?  Or doesn&#8217;t it matter, because the Global War on Terror excuses all the other broken promises and eclipses any other considerations?  (I am someone who is far more troubled by the increase in State power than the threat of Islamic terrorists, though I certainly don&#8217;t discount that threat.)</p>
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		<title>By: kdogg36</title>
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		<dc:creator>kdogg36</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Oct 2006 02:13:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>53: I don&#039;t know what &quot;GWOT&quot; means, and that siginficantly hinders my ability to judge your answer. :)  If it means the Global War on Terror, I am sure I disagree with you on the approach that&#039;s been taken, but I also don&#039;t quite know how they significantly disagree on the topic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>53: I don&#8217;t know what &#8220;GWOT&#8221; means, and that siginficantly hinders my ability to judge your answer. <img src='http://www.gaypatriot.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   If it means the Global War on Terror, I am sure I disagree with you on the approach that&#8217;s been taken, but I also don&#8217;t quite know how they significantly disagree on the topic.</p>
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		<title>By: cleve</title>
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		<dc:creator>cleve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Oct 2006 23:15:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sheesh man, when is it gonna stop         .http://www.kentucky.com/mld/kentucky/15763570.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sheesh man, when is it gonna stop         .<a href="http://www.kentucky.com/mld/kentucky/15763570.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.kentucky.com/mld/kentucky/15763570.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: Calarato</title>
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		<dc:creator>Calarato</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Oct 2006 22:49:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(1) People who have witnessed Casey&#039;s public appearances agree &lt;a href=&quot;http://hughhewitt.townhall.com/g/74165abf-e70a-44d7-b620-d2a040d57ed8&quot;&gt;Casey has no brain&lt;/a&gt;.

(2) In helping the GWOT, Santorum has been one of the good guys and (politically) stuck his neck out to challenge our useless and politicized Intelligence establishment, support the troops, etc.

(3) It&#039;s a Senate seat... and if Democrats win the Senate, we can kiss an effective GWOT good-bye for at least a couple years.

Having said all that: I know of Santorum&#039;s anti-gay remarks earlier in his career and I condemn those remarks.  It&#039;s only because I care about the GWOT that I could prefer him to Casey even slightly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(1) People who have witnessed Casey&#8217;s public appearances agree <a href="http://hughhewitt.townhall.com/g/74165abf-e70a-44d7-b620-d2a040d57ed8">Casey has no brain</a>.</p>
<p>(2) In helping the GWOT, Santorum has been one of the good guys and (politically) stuck his neck out to challenge our useless and politicized Intelligence establishment, support the troops, etc.</p>
<p>(3) It&#8217;s a Senate seat&#8230; and if Democrats win the Senate, we can kiss an effective GWOT good-bye for at least a couple years.</p>
<p>Having said all that: I know of Santorum&#8217;s anti-gay remarks earlier in his career and I condemn those remarks.  It&#8217;s only because I care about the GWOT that I could prefer him to Casey even slightly.</p>
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		<title>By: kdogg36</title>
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		<dc:creator>kdogg36</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Oct 2006 01:35:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would like to ask an authentic question.   It is asked with some puzzlement, but it&#039;s asked honestly and with an open mind.

For those of you who prefer Santorum to Casey, what are the specific reasons for that preference?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would like to ask an authentic question.   It is asked with some puzzlement, but it&#8217;s asked honestly and with an open mind.</p>
<p>For those of you who prefer Santorum to Casey, what are the specific reasons for that preference?</p>
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		<title>By: ralph</title>
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		<dc:creator>ralph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Oct 2006 20:52:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you know why i hate GP and GPW or whatever he calls his badass self these days, it is simple: i hate the fact while i hate the message of their party their party good, bad, or indifferent has message and the undecided numbnuts drunk the koolaid.  if the party on the left had a message the undecided in the middle could sip on the pinot noir.  so really the numbnuts who decide the election have no choice but to drink the koolaid</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you know why i hate GP and GPW or whatever he calls his badass self these days, it is simple: i hate the fact while i hate the message of their party their party good, bad, or indifferent has message and the undecided numbnuts drunk the koolaid.  if the party on the left had a message the undecided in the middle could sip on the pinot noir.  so really the numbnuts who decide the election have no choice but to drink the koolaid</p>
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		<title>By: Carl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Oct 2006 07:52:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I haven&#039;t heard any organizations on either side of the aisle say Survey USA is not reliable. They have some wacky polls, as any firm does, but they seem to be much more respected than something like Zogby.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I haven&#8217;t heard any organizations on either side of the aisle say Survey USA is not reliable. They have some wacky polls, as any firm does, but they seem to be much more respected than something like Zogby.</p>
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		<title>By: TGC</title>
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		<dc:creator>TGC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Oct 2006 06:02:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Losing 2006 might just salvage 2008.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Assuming we live that long.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Losing 2006 might just salvage 2008.</p></blockquote>
<p>Assuming we live that long.</p>
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		<title>By: Michigan-Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michigan-Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Oct 2006 22:04:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good advice VdaK, thanks.  I miss the old days of worthy discussants like GrampaGryph and the sockpuppet raj/Ian.

Well, on second thought, scratch that last notion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good advice VdaK, thanks.  I miss the old days of worthy discussants like GrampaGryph and the sockpuppet raj/Ian.</p>
<p>Well, on second thought, scratch that last notion.</p>
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