Comments on: Gays Must Look Within to Find the Real Meaning of our Sexuality

By: Peter Hughes

Peter Hughes — Fri, 20 Oct 2006 20:40:00 +0000

My favorite Poirot novel is “Sad Cypress.” Very well written.

Regards,
Peter H.

By: DanielFTL

DanielFTL — Fri, 20 Oct 2006 07:00:14 +0000

I’d probably say that I like Hercule Poirot better, but I like both.

By: Calarato

Calarato — Fri, 20 Oct 2006 01:37:33 +0000

(p.s. I already mentioned where that condoning or that “drawing a moral equivalence” is to be found, in #68)

By: Calarato

Calarato — Fri, 20 Oct 2006 01:34:14 +0000

#95 - “Well I don�t look down on anyone here. They�re still people even if I don�t agree with their beliefs, their politics or their arguments.”

OK, let’s take that as sincere.

But then - Why ally yourself (as in this thread) with certain of the most immature and toxic of the Left name-callers?

Why condone their behavior, by drawing moral equivalences between them and, say, Matt - who (while challenging you) has been pretty civil to you in this thread, when you get right down to it?

By: Peter Hughes

Peter Hughes — Thu, 19 Oct 2006 21:47:02 +0000

#99 - Personally, I prefer Miss Marple over Hercule Poirot. But the one I really enjoy is “N or M?” featuring Tommy and Tuppence Beresford.

Regards,
Peter H.

By: DanielFTL

DanielFTL — Thu, 19 Oct 2006 21:29:34 +0000

Ha! Twink, that’s funny. That I am not. With that auto set-up you’re going to have your gay card revoked down here, that’s for sure, but they’ll all want to sleep with you. LOL. By the by, I was born in Michigan and spent most of my life in Saint Louis, so I am really from the midwest, not Florida. It was certainly eye opening when I moved down here. The thing is, my hubby and I keep very much to ourselves…people find it odd, but I like it. No one loves Agatha Christie as much as I do anyway and he’s the only one who can tolerate my obsession with all things Agatha.

Sorry, I am ranting.

By: Michigan-Matt

Michigan-Matt — Thu, 19 Oct 2006 21:15:13 +0000

And to clarify, Daniel… I wasn’t suggesting you are a three snapping, pink cosmo swilling twink. Or you were shoving PETA’s agenda down our throats or an ecoTerrorist just because you can’t imagine a gay guy –or in this case, gay guys– having an H2.

O was speaking about the liberal, GayLeftBorg brothers. Kneejerk guys like monty, sean, jimmy and others.

By: Michigan-Matt

Michigan-Matt — Thu, 19 Oct 2006 21:08:20 +0000

DanielFtL writes: “Michigan-Matt said in another thread, I don�t remember which, that he has an H2 in his garage. I�ve gone around for two days thinking about this because in my mind it is like crossing the red wire with the black wire.”

I know you said you didn’t care to speak further about it, but I wonder if this is another example of the single-brain mindset that drives our gay brothers into speedos, thongs on the feet, and the waxing salon.

for the record DanielFtL, it is a H2Lux –big, black, lots of chrome, all the toys and then some… we use it around town but mostly to get UpNorth to the lake. It’s safe. It’s quiet. Along with defensive driving, it protects the three most precious things in my life: my partner and my boys.

The other car is a very fast 350Z convertible… and we have a pair of red, even faster Moto Guzzi Sport Corsa bikes –frankly, all three vehicles and our mountain bikes are very gay. So are the jetskis… being gay in Michigan doesn’t mean we have to drive a volvo, a Ford Expo, or an old gremlin that grandma gave us before she croaked. for us, being gay didn’t tranlsate into being one paycheck removed from the collections agent.

I’ve never understood that element in the gay community that shoves PETA down our throats, glorifies ecoTerrorism as a political artform or thinks disposable income MUST be spent on preening products for their self-inflating habits. Or that if you aren’t looking “gay” you have your GayCard revoked by the nearest three snapping twink swilling a pink comso.

I think you need to get out of gay Florida and move to Maine as soon as possible, DanielFtL. You can still touch base with that inner gay self by heading to Vermont for weekends… except there, “gay” means womyn in flannel shirts doing small engine repair out of the trailer.

The Hummer is gay labeled… we have the HRC sticker turned on its side to represent the 11 states the GayLeft leadership LOST to the animated anti-gay marriage advocates in 2004… you know, all those voters the GayLeftBorg has been pissing-off for the last three decades.

I’m glad our choices in transportation don’t stirke you as gay enough, DanielFtL. Mission accomplished.

By: DanielFTL

DanielFTL — Thu, 19 Oct 2006 20:32:46 +0000

I am a big flaming liberal! I am also a member of the ACLU and AU. I don’t believe in God, but I do believe in guns. My parents are extremely religious. My mother is a dyed in the wool Republican and my father is a St. Louis Democrat. Map that craziness.

By: DanielFTL

DanielFTL — Thu, 19 Oct 2006 20:23:27 +0000

Well I don’t look down on anyone here. They’re still people even if I don’t agree with their beliefs, their politics or their arguments.

I’ve been hanging around for a few months. I just voted absentee ballot yesterday and I still voted straight Democrat (because I don’t vote for Republicans ), but I certainly realize that there are more Gay Republicans than I would have ever guessed in the past.

By: Calarato

Calarato — Thu, 19 Oct 2006 19:59:05 +0000

#92 - Sorry, didn’t see it in time. I post kind of freely as well, as you can see.

“Right winger” and “left winger” both have a certain reductive, dismissive quality to them. But they should be worn with pride, if they apply.

An occasional commentor here, rightwingprof, does that for “right wing”. So does Bruce, in the blog header you pointed out.

I don’t wear it simply because I don’t feel it applies to me - as a gay marriage-, drug legalization- and abortion- supporting kind of guy. And non-religious.

(I don’t support unlimited late-term abortion, but that’s another long discussion!)

By: Calarato

Calarato — Thu, 19 Oct 2006 19:55:02 +0000

Umm, well you’re certainly wrong in calling me a right-winger. As you put it earlier, “I cannot speak for anyone else.”

And now, something for you to consider, in your heart.

Is it true? that you approach the people here as a snob would? (Looking-down. No genuine exchanges.)

If so: Wouldn’t you then expect people to pick up on it - even if you never name-call, think you’re disguising it, etc. - and react to you with appropriate skepticism and brusqueness?

You don’t have to answer.

I do want to point out though, that with the openly hateful / nasty lefties we get - raj, Ian, the Kewpie sockpuppets, monty, and so forth - at least we know what they really think. They just get on with flinging the crap they came here to fling. There’s a touch of honesty in that.

By: DanielFTL

DanielFTL — Thu, 19 Oct 2006 19:49:29 +0000

Scratch that. I don’t want to be called a “liberal snob” so I can understand why someone does not want to be called a “gay right winger.”

Sorry for so many posts. I post as it occurs to me.

By: DanielFTL

DanielFTL — Thu, 19 Oct 2006 19:43:25 +0000

Am I wrong in calling a group of people gay right wingers? Even the subtitle of the blog mentions it:

“Blogcasting from the worldwide headquarters of the not-so-vast GAY RIGHT WING conspiracy. ”

People, gay, on the right…gay right wingers. Not a big leap.

By: DanielFTL

DanielFTL — Thu, 19 Oct 2006 19:32:49 +0000

Perhaps not conversational, but informative. It would have never occurred to me that a gay man would have an H2.

Stereotype? Probably, but so what? Everyone stereotypes, and stereotypes are shattered or upheld or just exist and nobody cares.

By: DanielFTL

DanielFTL — Thu, 19 Oct 2006 19:15:38 +0000

Ah, and the name calling begins.

By: DanielFTL

DanielFTL — Thu, 19 Oct 2006 19:14:59 +0000

I am whatever you think I am Calarato and you should believe about me whatever you like. Whatever works for you, works for me.

By: anon

anon — Thu, 19 Oct 2006 19:13:59 +0000

now you get it! dan is approaching you guys as a liberal snob….slumming.

By: Calarato

Calarato — Thu, 19 Oct 2006 19:04:09 +0000

P.S. To be completely precise about this:

You are now telling us, in effect, that you are here for science-like OBSERVATION, rather than any genuine conversational exchanges.

By: Calarato

Calarato — Thu, 19 Oct 2006 19:02:39 +0000

#83 - That, Daniel, says a great deal about your stereotypes.