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		<title>By: Lusidvicel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lusidvicel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Dec 2006 16:37:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: North Dallas Thirty</title>
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		<dc:creator>North Dallas Thirty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Oct 2006 18:30:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Put bluntly, trapper, people are free to think what they wish.

And quite honestly, given that you and your fellow Democrats pander to those &lt;a href="http://www.cbn.com/cbnnews/politics/060510a.aspx"&gt; same people&lt;/a&gt;, what exactly is your point?

How do you like the fact that Howard Dean takes your money, says he likes you, and then turns around and spits on you when he's in front of those same people to show that he "shares their values"?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Put bluntly, trapper, people are free to think what they wish.</p>
<p>And quite honestly, given that you and your fellow Democrats pander to those <a href="http://www.cbn.com/cbnnews/politics/060510a.aspx"> same people</a>, what exactly is your point?</p>
<p>How do you like the fact that Howard Dean takes your money, says he likes you, and then turns around and spits on you when he&#8217;s in front of those same people to show that he &#8220;shares their values&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: trapper</title>
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		<dc:creator>trapper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Oct 2006 17:39:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This site is satire, right?

Are you the True Believers? Or are the TB the Republican 'Base' that thinks you will be 'Left Behind'?

Fair enough that you have your own political ideals. But you do realise that your supposed allies in the Christian Right despise you, to the point of hoping that you burn in Hell for eternity, don't you?

I get it, you're just filled with self-hatred to the point where you damn others like yourselves.

Your choice...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This site is satire, right?</p>
<p>Are you the True Believers? Or are the TB the Republican &#8216;Base&#8217; that thinks you will be &#8216;Left Behind&#8217;?</p>
<p>Fair enough that you have your own political ideals. But you do realise that your supposed allies in the Christian Right despise you, to the point of hoping that you burn in Hell for eternity, don&#8217;t you?</p>
<p>I get it, you&#8217;re just filled with self-hatred to the point where you damn others like yourselves.</p>
<p>Your choice&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Swift</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon Swift</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Oct 2006 23:24:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Stay the Course: Another Democrat Dirty Trick...&lt;/strong&gt;

I certainly don't remember the President ever saying anything about "stay the course" being the strategy in Iraq so suspected that this was another Democrat dirty trick....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Stay the Course: Another Democrat Dirty Trick&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>I certainly don&#8217;t remember the President ever saying anything about &#8220;stay the course&#8221; being the strategy in Iraq so suspected that this was another Democrat dirty trick&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Michigan-Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michigan-Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Oct 2006 13:39:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NDXXX, well put.

Where guys like Kevin, DanielFtL, sean-p-piddle, jimmy and others argue that democracy is some shelter organization for minority rights... kind of like the UN is for 3rd World despots... the truth is that the GayLeftBorg took a page out of the highly successful handbook of VictimHoodActivism from the DNC, from the 1970's ecoTerrorists and others by using the courts and manipulative legal highjinx to secure the advancement of policy not available to them at the ballot box.

That's why conservatives are so keen on reversing years of liberal policy activism from the bench by the Left and complicit judges cut-off from accountability.  It's a huge issue in the culture war.

I've not found a single responsible GOPer in Michigan who thinks gays don't deserve to share in the American Dream, don't deserve to enjoy all the rights offered to all --it's when the GayLeftBorg defines gay rights as their own version of political activist agenda items that the GOP has problems.  In fact, I think I recall Presidential-elect Geo Bush in 2000 saying that gay men and women would serve without distinction of their sexual preferences in his Administration.

It was right then that the "clucking" from the GayLeftBorg began in earnest.

In Michigan, I have no problem securing and exercising my rights as a gay, as a Father, as a partner in a committed relationship, as a worker.  None.  I just don't think I have MORE rights than anyone else... it really is that simple.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NDXXX, well put.</p>
<p>Where guys like Kevin, DanielFtL, sean-p-piddle, jimmy and others argue that democracy is some shelter organization for minority rights&#8230; kind of like the UN is for 3rd World despots&#8230; the truth is that the GayLeftBorg took a page out of the highly successful handbook of VictimHoodActivism from the DNC, from the 1970&#8217;s ecoTerrorists and others by using the courts and manipulative legal highjinx to secure the advancement of policy not available to them at the ballot box.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s why conservatives are so keen on reversing years of liberal policy activism from the bench by the Left and complicit judges cut-off from accountability.  It&#8217;s a huge issue in the culture war.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve not found a single responsible GOPer in Michigan who thinks gays don&#8217;t deserve to share in the American Dream, don&#8217;t deserve to enjoy all the rights offered to all &#8211;it&#8217;s when the GayLeftBorg defines gay rights as their own version of political activist agenda items that the GOP has problems.  In fact, I think I recall Presidential-elect Geo Bush in 2000 saying that gay men and women would serve without distinction of their sexual preferences in his Administration.</p>
<p>It was right then that the &#8220;clucking&#8221; from the GayLeftBorg began in earnest.</p>
<p>In Michigan, I have no problem securing and exercising my rights as a gay, as a Father, as a partner in a committed relationship, as a worker.  None.  I just don&#8217;t think I have MORE rights than anyone else&#8230; it really is that simple.</p>
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		<title>By: North Dallas Thirty</title>
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		<dc:creator>North Dallas Thirty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Oct 2006 04:57:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Because the majority is opposed to it, Kevin.

Why you and your fellow leftists claim you want "freedom", but then demand that your totalitarian will of your tiny minority be imposed whether voters like it or not astonishes me.

The simple fact of the matter is that gays have not demonstrated to enough people that we need, want, or would put marriage to any good use -- and, given that our movement is made up primarily of people like yourself who bash religion and claim that Republicans want to put gays in concentration camps and murder them, that's no great surprise.

Perhaps if you could show respect for others' views, instead of loudly insisting that the fact that you're gay means you don't have to listen to anyone else or accept anyone else's opinions, we wouldn't have this problem. But simply put.....you can't.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Because the majority is opposed to it, Kevin.</p>
<p>Why you and your fellow leftists claim you want &#8220;freedom&#8221;, but then demand that your totalitarian will of your tiny minority be imposed whether voters like it or not astonishes me.</p>
<p>The simple fact of the matter is that gays have not demonstrated to enough people that we need, want, or would put marriage to any good use &#8212; and, given that our movement is made up primarily of people like yourself who bash religion and claim that Republicans want to put gays in concentration camps and murder them, that&#8217;s no great surprise.</p>
<p>Perhaps if you could show respect for others&#8217; views, instead of loudly insisting that the fact that you&#8217;re gay means you don&#8217;t have to listen to anyone else or accept anyone else&#8217;s opinions, we wouldn&#8217;t have this problem. But simply put&#8230;..you can&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Oct 2006 22:08:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the rallying cry of freed extends to gay people (which conservatives supposedly adhere to), then why are conservatives leading the charge to pass social laws that stop gays from having the same rights as everyone else?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the rallying cry of freed extends to gay people (which conservatives supposedly adhere to), then why are conservatives leading the charge to pass social laws that stop gays from having the same rights as everyone else?</p>
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		<title>By: Michigan-Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michigan-Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Oct 2006 12:51:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And outside of the GayLeftBorg, who exactly didn't think the HRC and it's radical activist staff weren't behind MikeRogers and JohnAvarosis?

Oh, I know, the same ones who think the MSM isn't liberally biased, the Courts only interpert the law, Jon Stewart isn't a mouthpiece for snarky Democrats, and the military is evil.  The DNC leadership.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And outside of the GayLeftBorg, who exactly didn&#8217;t think the HRC and it&#8217;s radical activist staff weren&#8217;t behind MikeRogers and JohnAvarosis?</p>
<p>Oh, I know, the same ones who think the MSM isn&#8217;t liberally biased, the Courts only interpert the law, Jon Stewart isn&#8217;t a mouthpiece for snarky Democrats, and the military is evil.  The DNC leadership.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank IBC</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank IBC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Oct 2006 15:15:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmmmm... no wonder they were so quiet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmmm&#8230; no wonder they were so quiet.</p>
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		<title>By: Brit</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Oct 2006 20:10:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"StopSexualPredators.Com" Fake Blog Traced To Human Rights Campaign.
Was used to out story about Foley ABC

See ACE of SPADES
http://ace.mu.nu/

Stop October Surprises

http://stopoctobersurprises.blogspot.com/2006_10_01_stopoctobersurprises_archive.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;StopSexualPredators.Com&#8221; Fake Blog Traced To Human Rights Campaign.<br />
Was used to out story about Foley ABC</p>
<p>See ACE of SPADES<br />
<a href="http://ace.mu.nu/" rel="nofollow">http://ace.mu.nu/</a></p>
<p>Stop October Surprises</p>
<p><a href="http://stopoctobersurprises.blogspot.com/2006_10_01_stopoctobersurprises_archive.html" rel="nofollow">http://stopoctobersurprises.blogspot.com/2006_10_01_stopoctobersurprises_archive.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: GayPatriotWest</title>
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		<dc:creator>GayPatriotWest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Oct 2006 16:57:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chase in #28, I support the right of business to set its own employment policies.  If a company is stupid enough to discriminate against an otherwise qualified employee because of his sexuality, then it will suffer in the marketplace.   So, well, said, kdogg36 in #29.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chase in #28, I support the right of business to set its own employment policies.  If a company is stupid enough to discriminate against an otherwise qualified employee because of his sexuality, then it will suffer in the marketplace.   So, well, said, kdogg36 in #29.</p>
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		<title>By: kdogg36</title>
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		<dc:creator>kdogg36</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Oct 2006 15:33:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#32 Synova: Your analysis is largely one I agree with.  I won't be supporting either establishment party until one of them starts standing up in a meaningful and coherent way for the values I cherish.  In the "Cut and Run" conservative thread (post 10) I described some ways in which Republicans in Maryland have totally alienated anyone who might vote for them because they're not as socialist as Democrats.  It doesn't seem like those individuals are even interested in getting my vote anymore.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#32 Synova: Your analysis is largely one I agree with.  I won&#8217;t be supporting either establishment party until one of them starts standing up in a meaningful and coherent way for the values I cherish.  In the &#8220;Cut and Run&#8221; conservative thread (post 10) I described some ways in which Republicans in Maryland have totally alienated anyone who might vote for them because they&#8217;re not as socialist as Democrats.  It doesn&#8217;t seem like those individuals are even interested in getting my vote anymore.</p>
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		<title>By: Brit</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Oct 2006 12:42:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Daniel, Excellent piece.

Mr. Rogers has decided to ""out"" one of Tom Coburn' staff. I found this on his blog and thought it was worth sharing.

Coburn to investigate AIDS conference spending (Gay)
Fashion show, luxury suite with grand piano deemed wasteful

By LOU CHIBBARO JR
Friday, October 20, 2006

U.S. Senator Tom Coburn (R-Okla.) is looking into whether the federal government acted prudently by spending “millions of dollars” to subsidize six separate AIDS conferences this year, which hundreds of federal employees attended at the government’s expense, an aide to Coburn said.

In a series of e-mails sent to the news media, Coburn’s legislative assistant, Roland Foster, pointed to promotional literature for the U.S. Conference on AIDS, held Sept. 21-25 in Hollywood, Fla., which highlighted an official “Latin Fiesta,” a “sizzling” fashion show, and plush, oceanfront hotel rooms.

In one of his e-mails, Foster disclosed that Paul Kawata, executive director of the National Minority AIDS Council, a Washington, D.C., group that organized the Florida AIDS conference, stayed in a penthouse suite at Hollywood’s Westin Diplomat Hotel that included a large screen TV, a luxury spa and a grand piano.

“The 92 [federal] employees and over $405,000 in federal funds spent on this conference exceed the 78 [U.S. Department] of Health &#38; Human Services employees who attended and $315,000 spent on the International AIDS Conference in Toronto, Canada held just a month earlier,” Foster said.

He said the Senate Subcommittee on Federal Financial Management, Government Information &#38; International Security, which Coburn chairs, has learned that federal employees participated in, and federal funds were likely allocated for, recent AIDS conferences in Washington, D.C., Boston, and at least two other cities this year.

“That means that during the last five months, there have been at least six federally supported AIDS conferences that have cost millions of dollars,” Foster said.

Kawata called Coburn’s criticism unfair. He said tourist-related agencies in the Miami-Fort Lauderdale area and a local host committee paid for all social events associated with the conference as part of an effort to attract visitors to South Florida in the middle of the hurricane season.

He said the same agencies, along with some corporate sponsors, picked up the cost for most meals for conference participants.

The Westin hotel gave him the luxury suite with the grand piano free of charge, Kawata said, along with 25 free meeting rooms, as a “perk” for booking 950 guest rooms at the hotel, 11 months ago, for a conference that drew 3,000 attendees. He said the remaining attendees stayed at four additional hotels nearby.

“The rooms at the Westin were $129 a night, and the rate at one of the overflow hotels was $94, which we think were great rates,” Kawata said.

When asked about concerns by Coburn that NMAC chose a luxury, beachside resort hotel for the conference, Kawata said the group could not find a low-budget hotel that could accommodate such a large conference and the required number of large meeting rooms.

Coburn’s press secretary, John Hart, said Coburn plans to investigate whether federal government agencies are wasting money by sending large numbers of federal officials and providing subsidies to AIDS conferences for which the benefit to the public or people with AIDS is questionable.

He said Coburn is aware of Foster’s e-mails about the AIDS conferences and that the Oklahoma senator agrees fully with Foster’s statements.

Coburn, a strong opponent of gay rights legislation, has won allies among both Republicans and Democrats in his efforts to curtail what he and bipartisan watchdog groups consider wasteful government spending.

Gay Republican activist Jim Driscoll served as a Bush administration appointee on the Presidential Advisory Council on HIV/AIDS when Coburn, a physician, served as the panel’s co-chair. Driscoll said he believes Coburn has the interests of people with AIDS in mind in his probe into AIDS conference spending.

Other AIDS activists have called Coburn a champion of conservative Christian groups that have pushed through abstinence-only until marriage programs instead of proven AIDS prevention programs that promote condom use.

Kawata said the NMAC-sponsored U.S. Conference on AIDS is the nation’s largest annual gathering of AIDS service providers. He said the conference, among other things, provides training and information on new developments in the AIDS epidemic for employees of community-based AIDS clinics.

“This is a conference to help them do their jobs better,” he said.

According to Kawata, the Department of Health &#38; Human Services provided NMAC with funds to pay for scholarships that enabled at least 950 minority staff members of local, community-based AIDS groups to attend the conference.

Foster stated in one of his e-mails that an investigation by Coburn’s Senate subcommittee found that at least 92 federal employees attended the NMAC conference, and that the government spent at least $405,000 on the event.

He said the conference took place at a time when Congress was deliberating over the Ryan White CARE Act, the largest federal AIDS program, and noted that NMAC joined other AIDS advocacy groups in opposing the legislation because of a dispute over funding allocations for different states.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Daniel, Excellent piece.</p>
<p>Mr. Rogers has decided to &#8220;&#8221;out&#8221;" one of Tom Coburn&#8217; staff. I found this on his blog and thought it was worth sharing.</p>
<p>Coburn to investigate AIDS conference spending (Gay)<br />
Fashion show, luxury suite with grand piano deemed wasteful</p>
<p>By LOU CHIBBARO JR<br />
Friday, October 20, 2006</p>
<p>U.S. Senator Tom Coburn (R-Okla.) is looking into whether the federal government acted prudently by spending “millions of dollars” to subsidize six separate AIDS conferences this year, which hundreds of federal employees attended at the government’s expense, an aide to Coburn said.</p>
<p>In a series of e-mails sent to the news media, Coburn’s legislative assistant, Roland Foster, pointed to promotional literature for the U.S. Conference on AIDS, held Sept. 21-25 in Hollywood, Fla., which highlighted an official “Latin Fiesta,” a “sizzling” fashion show, and plush, oceanfront hotel rooms.</p>
<p>In one of his e-mails, Foster disclosed that Paul Kawata, executive director of the National Minority AIDS Council, a Washington, D.C., group that organized the Florida AIDS conference, stayed in a penthouse suite at Hollywood’s Westin Diplomat Hotel that included a large screen TV, a luxury spa and a grand piano.</p>
<p>“The 92 [federal] employees and over $405,000 in federal funds spent on this conference exceed the 78 [U.S. Department] of Health &amp; Human Services employees who attended and $315,000 spent on the International AIDS Conference in Toronto, Canada held just a month earlier,” Foster said.</p>
<p>He said the Senate Subcommittee on Federal Financial Management, Government Information &amp; International Security, which Coburn chairs, has learned that federal employees participated in, and federal funds were likely allocated for, recent AIDS conferences in Washington, D.C., Boston, and at least two other cities this year.</p>
<p>“That means that during the last five months, there have been at least six federally supported AIDS conferences that have cost millions of dollars,” Foster said.</p>
<p>Kawata called Coburn’s criticism unfair. He said tourist-related agencies in the Miami-Fort Lauderdale area and a local host committee paid for all social events associated with the conference as part of an effort to attract visitors to South Florida in the middle of the hurricane season.</p>
<p>He said the same agencies, along with some corporate sponsors, picked up the cost for most meals for conference participants.</p>
<p>The Westin hotel gave him the luxury suite with the grand piano free of charge, Kawata said, along with 25 free meeting rooms, as a “perk” for booking 950 guest rooms at the hotel, 11 months ago, for a conference that drew 3,000 attendees. He said the remaining attendees stayed at four additional hotels nearby.</p>
<p>“The rooms at the Westin were $129 a night, and the rate at one of the overflow hotels was $94, which we think were great rates,” Kawata said.</p>
<p>When asked about concerns by Coburn that NMAC chose a luxury, beachside resort hotel for the conference, Kawata said the group could not find a low-budget hotel that could accommodate such a large conference and the required number of large meeting rooms.</p>
<p>Coburn’s press secretary, John Hart, said Coburn plans to investigate whether federal government agencies are wasting money by sending large numbers of federal officials and providing subsidies to AIDS conferences for which the benefit to the public or people with AIDS is questionable.</p>
<p>He said Coburn is aware of Foster’s e-mails about the AIDS conferences and that the Oklahoma senator agrees fully with Foster’s statements.</p>
<p>Coburn, a strong opponent of gay rights legislation, has won allies among both Republicans and Democrats in his efforts to curtail what he and bipartisan watchdog groups consider wasteful government spending.</p>
<p>Gay Republican activist Jim Driscoll served as a Bush administration appointee on the Presidential Advisory Council on HIV/AIDS when Coburn, a physician, served as the panel’s co-chair. Driscoll said he believes Coburn has the interests of people with AIDS in mind in his probe into AIDS conference spending.</p>
<p>Other AIDS activists have called Coburn a champion of conservative Christian groups that have pushed through abstinence-only until marriage programs instead of proven AIDS prevention programs that promote condom use.</p>
<p>Kawata said the NMAC-sponsored U.S. Conference on AIDS is the nation’s largest annual gathering of AIDS service providers. He said the conference, among other things, provides training and information on new developments in the AIDS epidemic for employees of community-based AIDS clinics.</p>
<p>“This is a conference to help them do their jobs better,” he said.</p>
<p>According to Kawata, the Department of Health &amp; Human Services provided NMAC with funds to pay for scholarships that enabled at least 950 minority staff members of local, community-based AIDS groups to attend the conference.</p>
<p>Foster stated in one of his e-mails that an investigation by Coburn’s Senate subcommittee found that at least 92 federal employees attended the NMAC conference, and that the government spent at least $405,000 on the event.</p>
<p>He said the conference took place at a time when Congress was deliberating over the Ryan White CARE Act, the largest federal AIDS program, and noted that NMAC joined other AIDS advocacy groups in opposing the legislation because of a dispute over funding allocations for different states.</p>
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		<title>By: DanielFTL</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2006/10/20/individualism-of-right-preferable-to-lefts-ideology-of-gay-identity/#comment-22777</link>
		<dc:creator>DanielFTL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Oct 2006 07:45:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would like to understand something.  What exactly is preventing you from being conservative gay individuals?  Aren't you that already?  Is someone or something preventing you from voting Republican in the voting booth?  Many posts here ask the question, "what freedoms have been taken away?" in response to lamentations about the Patriot Act and such.  Please describe what has been taken away from you as a conservative gay individual?  Don't describe what has been taken away from another individual, but rather you, yourself.  Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would like to understand something.  What exactly is preventing you from being conservative gay individuals?  Aren&#8217;t you that already?  Is someone or something preventing you from voting Republican in the voting booth?  Many posts here ask the question, &#8220;what freedoms have been taken away?&#8221; in response to lamentations about the Patriot Act and such.  Please describe what has been taken away from you as a conservative gay individual?  Don&#8217;t describe what has been taken away from another individual, but rather you, yourself.  Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Synova</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2006/10/20/individualism-of-right-preferable-to-lefts-ideology-of-gay-identity/#comment-22778</link>
		<dc:creator>Synova</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Oct 2006 05:52:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heh, I guess everyone responded to community identity already.

Why should libertarian vote Republican?   Although the Democrats are better on some social issues, it's not because they believe people should be free to make bad choices, it's because they believe that those are not bad choices.  Overall the Democrats are very much opposed to individual responsibility.   Are the Republicans better?  Not a lot.   A little bit on capitalism.   A little bit at least on the *concept* of individual responsibility.   Even considering wiretap and detention laws, does any libertarian actually believe that Democrats will promote more privacy and protection rather than less?   Republicans win with 2nd ammendment and the right to self-protection, mostly.   And, in general, they seem to take the threat of Islamic radicals more seriously.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heh, I guess everyone responded to community identity already.</p>
<p>Why should libertarian vote Republican?   Although the Democrats are better on some social issues, it&#8217;s not because they believe people should be free to make bad choices, it&#8217;s because they believe that those are not bad choices.  Overall the Democrats are very much opposed to individual responsibility.   Are the Republicans better?  Not a lot.   A little bit on capitalism.   A little bit at least on the *concept* of individual responsibility.   Even considering wiretap and detention laws, does any libertarian actually believe that Democrats will promote more privacy and protection rather than less?   Republicans win with 2nd ammendment and the right to self-protection, mostly.   And, in general, they seem to take the threat of Islamic radicals more seriously.</p>
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		<title>By: Synova</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2006/10/20/individualism-of-right-preferable-to-lefts-ideology-of-gay-identity/#comment-22779</link>
		<dc:creator>Synova</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Oct 2006 05:27:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#2  "you cannot expect to be a part of the ‘gay community’ when it suits you and an individual when it does not"

Well, I can't be part of the "gay community" but I'm certainly part of many different communities as well as an individual separate from all of them.   This seems rather normal to me.   Doesn't everyone have a variety of alliances and identities?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#2  &#8220;you cannot expect to be a part of the ‘gay community’ when it suits you and an individual when it does not&#8221;</p>
<p>Well, I can&#8217;t be part of the &#8220;gay community&#8221; but I&#8217;m certainly part of many different communities as well as an individual separate from all of them.   This seems rather normal to me.   Doesn&#8217;t everyone have a variety of alliances and identities?</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2006/10/20/individualism-of-right-preferable-to-lefts-ideology-of-gay-identity/#comment-22780</link>
		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Oct 2006 04:14:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think one of the problems with the conservative idealism of individual rights is that it is a viciously radical brand of individualism they seem to be talking about, a sort of social darwinism(it is so ironic that those religious righties don't believe in darwin).  In a society where there is massive inequality of power, money, etc, having a purely free market will without fail massively shift power, money, etc to those at the top, it will not make people more free in most meaningful ways.  Conservatives often make the mistake of belivieng that Freedom is something that is readily identifiable, ie. I am either free or I am not...But in fact we always have some sort of limits on our freedom, certainly for the rich and powerful freedom comes with nearly limitless possibilities, but to the average person or the poor, one's "free" choices are massivly constrained...What good is freedom for if it is just "freedom"?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think one of the problems with the conservative idealism of individual rights is that it is a viciously radical brand of individualism they seem to be talking about, a sort of social darwinism(it is so ironic that those religious righties don&#8217;t believe in darwin).  In a society where there is massive inequality of power, money, etc, having a purely free market will without fail massively shift power, money, etc to those at the top, it will not make people more free in most meaningful ways.  Conservatives often make the mistake of belivieng that Freedom is something that is readily identifiable, ie. I am either free or I am not&#8230;But in fact we always have some sort of limits on our freedom, certainly for the rich and powerful freedom comes with nearly limitless possibilities, but to the average person or the poor, one&#8217;s &#8220;free&#8221; choices are massivly constrained&#8230;What good is freedom for if it is just &#8220;freedom&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: kdogg36</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2006/10/20/individualism-of-right-preferable-to-lefts-ideology-of-gay-identity/#comment-22781</link>
		<dc:creator>kdogg36</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Oct 2006 04:10:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#28: I disagree.  If I own a business, it's my right to make decisions about that business based on any factors I choose.  It's what it means to "own" something.

If I ever own a business, I reserve the right to discriminate against people who have anti-gay (= anti-me) opinions, even if they claim that those opinions are an adjunct of their religion or "political belief" (the latter being declared a protected class by some local ordinances in my area).  I respect their right to such opinions; I just don't want to associate with those people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#28: I disagree.  If I own a business, it&#8217;s my right to make decisions about that business based on any factors I choose.  It&#8217;s what it means to &#8220;own&#8221; something.</p>
<p>If I ever own a business, I reserve the right to discriminate against people who have anti-gay (= anti-me) opinions, even if they claim that those opinions are an adjunct of their religion or &#8220;political belief&#8221; (the latter being declared a protected class by some local ordinances in my area).  I respect their right to such opinions; I just don&#8217;t want to associate with those people.</p>
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		<title>By: Chase</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chase</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Oct 2006 04:05:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unless you support a businesses right to fire an employee based on sexuality, not performance, you should support the Employment Non-Discrimination Act.

To say you don't support ENDA is a non-starter. &lt;b&gt; The right for everyone to be judged in the workplace based on performance and performance alone, must be protected by the federal government.&lt;/b&gt;

We undermine our economy and productivity by not doing so.  Many businesses understand this, which is why non-discrimination clauses are part of workplace rules for many top corporate companies.  But corporate America can only take the issue so far.  The federal government must finish what corporate America has started.

ENDA will one day be federal law because it embodies the virtue of American values, that hard work and determination are the keys to success.  Sex and sexuality can play no role in determining who suceeds and who does not.  It is a vital protection &lt;i&gt;and one that must be written into federal law.&lt;/i&gt;

And so it will be done.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unless you support a businesses right to fire an employee based on sexuality, not performance, you should support the Employment Non-Discrimination Act.</p>
<p>To say you don&#8217;t support ENDA is a non-starter. <b> The right for everyone to be judged in the workplace based on performance and performance alone, must be protected by the federal government.</b></p>
<p>We undermine our economy and productivity by not doing so.  Many businesses understand this, which is why non-discrimination clauses are part of workplace rules for many top corporate companies.  But corporate America can only take the issue so far.  The federal government must finish what corporate America has started.</p>
<p>ENDA will one day be federal law because it embodies the virtue of American values, that hard work and determination are the keys to success.  Sex and sexuality can play no role in determining who suceeds and who does not.  It is a vital protection <i>and one that must be written into federal law.</i></p>
<p>And so it will be done.</p>
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		<title>By: kdogg36</title>
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		<dc:creator>kdogg36</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Oct 2006 03:37:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#19 V the K: &lt;b&gt;And how can you be certain that — as formulated by the gay left — that they are not?&lt;/b&gt;

Because there's nothing wrong with me or with my relationship.  It's the same in all essentials as any straight life partnership.  No child will be harmed if the world around me treats my relationship the same as my parents'.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#19 V the K: <b>And how can you be certain that — as formulated by the gay left — that they are not?</b></p>
<p>Because there&#8217;s nothing wrong with me or with my relationship.  It&#8217;s the same in all essentials as any straight life partnership.  No child will be harmed if the world around me treats my relationship the same as my parents&#8217;.</p>
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