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Al Franken’s Anti-gay Past?

Posted by GayPatriotWest at 6:34 pm - January 18, 2007.
Filed under: Liberals,Media Bias

If a Republican (or conservative) does something in his youth, the left and their allies in the MSM will use it against him, no matter how many years have passed. Even if the conservative in question has long since changed his behavior. If someone of the left did the same thing in his youth, well, he was young and you know how young people are. Just a youthful indiscretion.

The MSM ignores — or otherwise downplays — West Virginia Senator Robert Byrd’s past involvement in the Ku Klux Klan, yet, at the end of the 2000 campaign, worked itself up into a lather about then-candidate George W. Bush’s drunk driving conviction in 1976 — even though the then-future president had long since given up drinking.

Over at Lloydletta’s Nooz and Comments, GPW acquaintance Eva Young notes how just over thirty years ago, left-wing talk show host and former funny man Al Franken joked about the murder of a gay man, saying:

I just don’t like homosexuals. If you ask me, they’re all homosexuals in the Pudding. Hey, I was glad when that Pudding homosexual got killed in Philadelphia.’ The smile became so broad it pushed his eyes shut. He couldn’t stand it any longer.

Perhaps Mr. Franken has long since shifted his stance on gays. But, if he were a conservative talk show host rather than a liberal, I dare say we’d be hearing a lot more about these 30-year-old comments.

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  1. Al Franken…

    Al Franken Said:
    I just don’t like homosexuals. If you ask me, they’re all homosexuals in the Pudding. Hey, I was glad when that Pudding homosexual got killed in Philadelphia.’ The smile became so broad it pushed his eyes shut. He co…

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  2. Nothing new here. You can be disgusted, but you cannot be surprised.

    Franken is a liberal. So, of course, he gets complete lifetime immunity from the leftmost media.

    Comment by Bill — January 18, 2007 @ 11:06 pm - January 18, 2007

  3. Nobody ever mentions Franken doing Blow on SNL either.

    Comment by ThatGayConservative — January 19, 2007 @ 12:24 am - January 19, 2007

  4. “If a Republican (or conservative) does something in his youth, the left and their allies in the MSM will use it against him, no matter how many years have passed.”

    Why are you complaining about it while doing it (e.g. Byrd)?

    Al Franken is marginal, just like Rush Limbaugh.

    Move on.

    Comment by fnln — January 19, 2007 @ 4:42 am - January 19, 2007

  5. #4

    Al Franken is marginal, just like Rush Limbaugh.

    An intelligent person is aware that there’s a huge difference between snorting lines of coke to be funny and dependence on a highly addictive prescription medication.

    However if your an angry, hate-filled partisan douchebag….

    Comment by ThatGayConservative — January 19, 2007 @ 6:00 am - January 19, 2007

  6. Yet another clear example of the blatantly obvious biases which cannot be seen by the naked liberal eye…

    This is my first time commenting, and I just want to add that I enjoy this site and your blogs immensely, and am very proud to share your wonderful work with ALL my conservative friends! KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK!!!

    Comment by Lilly — January 19, 2007 @ 6:20 am - January 19, 2007

  7. Kind of neat, Dan, look back in the GP archives (but don’t disturb SandyStuffYourPantsBerger loading up his britches) and see what some the the old GP stalwarts were saying about this very topic about a year ago…

    Franken DOES get a pass from the MSM. So did liberal darling Bryant Gumbel when he offered that the Winter Games wasn’t about serious athletics because there weren’t many black athletes competing in the games… or when Rosie ODonnell did her famous “Ching chong” asian slur impression of Chinese announcers talking about DannyDeVito being blasted drunk on TV recently… or liberal pundit Ted Rall calling Secy of State Rice “Bush’s House Nigga” and she needed to hand back her hair straightener… or when now dead Democrat liberal womens rights activist Martha Griffiths said that all that you needed to make black men happy was “give them a fishing pole and a bridge to fish off of”.

    Liberals are a valuable part of the MSM tribe. They get protection from the MSM. Just compare how they treated Mel Gibson against PaddieKennedy or DannyDeVito… Al Franken is part of the MSM tribe… a failed, highly vocal, arrogant, cyncial, irritating part… but still a part.

    Comment by Michigan-Matt — January 19, 2007 @ 9:09 am - January 19, 2007

  8. #6

    Meanwhile Libby, DeLay etc. get Nifong-ed.

    Comment by ThatGayConservative — January 19, 2007 @ 9:18 am - January 19, 2007

  9. O/T, I gotta believe that Libby’s day of justice is coming… I hope he’ll be found not guilty, Fitz will fade as his career heads for the basement and someone will write the definitive story on that case: baseless, feeble grab at power by an overzealous DOJ prosecutor.

    Is “Nifong’ed” replacing “Bork’ed” for unfair treatment? Nifong deserves to lose his license, lose his office and be barred for 7-10 yrs for the Duke lacrosse case.

    Comment by Michigan-Matt — January 19, 2007 @ 9:42 am - January 19, 2007

  10. Matt, why should Libby even have a “day of justice”? That’s the point. Joe Wilson is the one who should be having a “day of justice”, because Joe Wilson is the one who lied to the American people about Iraq.

    Comment by Calarato — January 19, 2007 @ 10:00 am - January 19, 2007

  11. Speaking of lying to the American public for merely political reasons:
    Rightists (and the undefinable) smeared folks on the left by call them “traitors” and much worse, over the no warrent wire-tap hoopla.
    But now suddenly we learn that its not necessary and the FISA courts are the best way to do it.
    What a turn around!
    A tad off topic…sorry

    Comment by keogh — January 19, 2007 @ 10:43 am - January 19, 2007

  12. Calarato, I agree but after all the mudslinging by the MSM and liberals to “indict” Libby and frogmarch someone –anyone– through the streets to appease the rabid anti-war, BushHatred mob, it seems fitting that Libby stand his ground, make Fitzgerald prove his case (rather than dismiss it and hold the usual press conference where the prosecutor continues to smear the accused and explains there isn’t enough evidence at this time to prosecute) and allow the jury to determine whether the govt was smoking dope or held a smoking gun in evidence.

    Like Nifong, this prosecution appears to be more malicious than usual on the part of high profile prosecutions.

    Libby reminds me of the guys like Ollie North and others… where does one go to recover their good name when the prosecution fails in an unjustifiable case? I hope all those clucking about “Rule of Law” and “No one is above the law” are still feeding in the chickenyard when this case in laid to rest.

    That’s the “day of justice” of which I speak. I hope Libby gets the opportunity to expose this prosecution for what it truly is all about.

    Comment by Michigan-Matt — January 19, 2007 @ 2:20 pm - January 19, 2007

  13. keogh, those who used the word “traitor” to identify the fine work of people at the NYT to undercut and expose terrorist surveillance programs is both fitting and appropriate.

    Just because DOJ and the WH made a political decision to return to the FISA Court rather than face countless windbags like your boi Rep John Conyers in endless and wasteful hearings to explain a policy, the practice is now history and no one in DOJ or at the WH need waste time responding to political witch hunts by Conyers and his band of anti-war, BushHatred mob activists.

    A political decision to employ the FISA Ct means nothing other than Bush once again outsmarted the liberals. Say what you want, but now at that the liberals have is “hot air” on this one.

    Comment by Michigan-Matt — January 19, 2007 @ 2:29 pm - January 19, 2007

  14. Since Air America is constantly in debt and losing listeners by the hour, it should come to no surprise that the MSM is ignoring Al Franken. After all, everyone else is.

    He’s yesterday’s flash-in-the-pan-libtard-radio-commentator-to-take-down-Rush-and company, in the mold of Mario Cuomo, Roger Clinton, Joycelyn Elders, Larry King (he used to be in radio, remember?), Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson and a bunch of other forgettable folks who got a lot of fanfare in the MSM as “the challenger to conservative talk radio” but didn’t produce squat.

    Annoy a libtard – defeat the (Un)Fairness Doctrine!

    Regards,
    Peter H.

    Comment by Peter Hughes — January 19, 2007 @ 3:28 pm - January 19, 2007

  15. The only thing a celebrity cannot survive is to be ignored. Sure, there are those in the media who, based upon their political and cultural views, think it’s good for us to have certain celebrities (and more importantly, their inanities) thrust upon us. I suspect that most celebrity is a media confection and that fame is largely generated not from a genuine public interest but simply because those who are famous are those paraded in front of us. The logic is that as long as a celebrity is news, their career is alive — thus, the only bad publicity is no publicity. Ultimately, however, this kind of collective chimera cannot last.

    I try not to allow my politics to define my entertainment and vice-versa. Nonetheless, there are those who beg for my boycott.

    Comment by HardHobbit — January 19, 2007 @ 3:50 pm - January 19, 2007

  16. My post keeps getting lost so I’ll try again. Anyone who goes to the source and reads the 1976 article this quote comes from can plainly see that this statement was made as a bit of absurdist humour. Franken goes on to call for “preppies” to be killed and takes numerous jabs at the interviewer and at Harvard. He was taking a piss at the Hasty Pudding people, he was joking…comedians do that from time to time.

    Comment by EekAMouse — January 19, 2007 @ 4:26 pm - January 19, 2007

  17. HH at 15 writes: “I suspect that most celebrity is a media confection and that fame is largely generated not from a genuine public interest but simply because those who are famous are those paraded in front of us.”

    With respect, didn’t you really mean to add right after that the sentence “Except for Britney Spears, who survives fame because of her talent to sing, dance, act and led us all out of our dark days and depression”? Tell me you didn’t mean that America’s best and most lasting talent is just a confectionary creation of the media. If Michael is the King of Pop, and Elvis was just King, Britney is surely the Queen of Entertainment… there isn’t another talent that comes close to her in this century or the last. But then, I have all of Barry Manilow’s 8-tracks so maybe my “talent meter” is a bit off?

    Frankly, most of us won’t admit it but we simply crave knowing what Britney is doing, what she thinks, what she likes or dislikes right now. This very instant. You can admit it; it’s ok.

    She is to our generation what Lady Di was to the older folk. A beacon of talent encased in exquiste beauty –I read that in People, btw.

    Comment by Michigan-Matt — January 19, 2007 @ 5:12 pm - January 19, 2007

  18. [...] The outrage is beginning to grow over Al Franken joking that he "was glad when that Pudding homosexual got killed in Philadelphia."   posted by Michael B. Brodkorb at 4:24 pm   [...]

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  19. #16 – Okay, so if you substitute the name “Bill O’Reilly” or “Sean Hannity” in Al Franken’s place, then there would be no outcry?

    Get real.

    Regards,
    Peter H.

    Comment by Peter Hughes — January 19, 2007 @ 10:42 pm - January 19, 2007

  20. Um, as Dan loves to say, I believe there’s a case of irony impairment here. Reminds me of the right-wing bloggers who took an Onion satire as hard reporting a few years back.

    Comment by JonathanG — January 19, 2007 @ 11:55 pm - January 19, 2007

  21. Matt, is that your tongue in your cheek, or are you just glad to read me?

    When did our culture become so enamored of white trash? Did it begin with Bill “Nose-Like-A-Vacuum-Cleaner” Clinton? White cracker rappers? (Sorry…is that an ad Eminem attack?) And your favorite Britney Oops-I-Did-It-Again Spears — sheesh! (By the way, is it “Like, I’m so sure” or “I’m, like, so sure”? I can never remember.) Sometimes when watching the tube (sorry, I’m waiting for LCD prices to continue to drop) I half expect a commercial to come on for a new Mattel toy: “Trailer Park Friends! There’s Britney and K-Fed and Madonna and Justin — collect ‘em all! The new Britney Double-Wide comes complete with the Jerry Springer Home Collection and everything you see here. Paternity test kit and miniature tuna casserole sold separately.”

    Comment by HardHobbit — January 20, 2007 @ 3:48 am - January 20, 2007

  22. Hey! I love tuna casserole!

    Julie the Jarhead
    (a regular viewer of TMZ.com and THE SUN.co.uk)

    Comment by Julie the Jarhead — January 20, 2007 @ 7:47 am - January 20, 2007

  23. HH, I guess it’s time for me to get rid of the 60′ doublewide with authentic simulated wood paneling and get some front tires for my ex-ex-ex-ex bf’s ex bf’s aqua ’68 Gremlin that sits on sea-mint blocks in the dooryard?

    Britney is a queen. Al Franken is white trash. And I’m happy to read you.

    Comment by Michigan-Matt — January 20, 2007 @ 8:21 am - January 20, 2007

  24. As conservatives who are in or might want to be in the publics´ eye, I suppose we have to develop a thick skin to attacks from the hypocritical left on indiscretions we may have committed at any stage of life. Since they control the MSM the attacks don´t end until they achieve their objective, namely, downfall of the person involved. Former Senator Roberto Packwood voted the feminist agenda. Yet the feminist turned on him with a vengence while ignoring the picadillos of Bill Clinton with Jennifer Flowers. et al. Packwood gave up his seat while President Clinton goes on to live a life of fame and fortune. Why is Barney Frank still collecting a congressional paycheck while Mark Foley is in rehab? I guess that´s what the fairness doctrine is all about. Its almost as funny as one of Bill Cosby´s old stand up routine: the British will wear red uniforms and march in a straight line while the colonist will wear anything and shoot from behind trees and bushes.

    Comment by Roberto — January 20, 2007 @ 11:13 am - January 20, 2007

  25. Franken is a tacky jackass, and what is most unforgiveable of all, especially in a comedian–NOT FUNNY. Never has been, not since his eary SNL days. And unlike Brittney, he can’t sing or dance. Get this unfunny, boorish man out of our collective face.

    Comment by C. Siegel — January 20, 2007 @ 1:40 pm - January 20, 2007

  26. Wow… 25 posts and not a single Chappaquiddick reference?!

    Comment by vaara — January 20, 2007 @ 7:57 pm - January 20, 2007

  27. #26 – vaara, that’s because nobody has mentioned Ted Kennedy yet.

    Regards,
    Peter H.

    Comment by Peter Hughes — January 20, 2007 @ 8:04 pm - January 20, 2007

  28. #11
    over the no warrent wire-tap hoopla.
    But now suddenly we learn that its not necessary

    It never was necessary. Suddenly? Bush and the WH was saying that all along. Plus, the FISA Court of Review said so back in 2002.

    Comment by ThatGayConservative — January 21, 2007 @ 9:38 am - January 21, 2007

  29. “#16 – Okay, so if you substitute the name “Bill O’Reilly” or “Sean Hannity” in Al Franken’s place, then there would be no outcry? Get real.”

    Were it obvious satire, no — or at least only among the humorless. Do you have an example of them engaging in satire that produced a public outrcy among libs?

    Comment by JonathanG — January 21, 2007 @ 1:08 pm - January 21, 2007

  30. 30 years ago? If that quote had been attributed to George W. Bush, we would hear the term “youthful indiscretion” attached to it. How about some updates on this one? Anyone repeated this quote to Franken and gotten a reaction to him on it today?

    Comment by Kevin — January 22, 2007 @ 8:15 am - January 22, 2007

  31. #29 – Anytime a conservative takes either a position and makes it into a joke, or even hints at something that may be considered controversial, the libtard left goes into a collective hissy-fit.

    Take Bill O’Reilly. He questioned whether or not Shawn Hornbeck, the kidnapped teen from Missouri, got a fair shake when Oprah interviewed him, based upon the presumption that the kid was in no position to be interviewed at this point in time.

    The far-left smear Web sites vilified him for raising questions about the situation and predictability the harridans from “The View” took the bait. No word as to whether or not Oprah was in the wrong for even conducting the interview.

    Let’s not forget Rush Limbaugh, either. He raised eyebrows on one interview with NBC’s Lisa Meyers (their resident lesbian, if I do say so) when he quipped that “the women’s movement was best viewed from the rear.” The feminists went ballistic! Yet when confronted with the backward views of Islamofascists and how they treat women in this day and age, the libs had (and still have) no response.

    So excuse me if I find Franken-stein’s gay joke not a laughing matter. To me, it rings close to what he feels in real life.

    Regards,
    Peter H.

    Comment by Peter Hughes — January 22, 2007 @ 11:57 am - January 22, 2007

  32. Your backwards examples are the very reason I doubt your ability to comprehend almost anything Pete. There is no need to try to find examples of similar events from a conservative commentator, this is a unique situation. Go back and read the article this quote comes from and try to take the position that Franken should be crucified for this. He was joking to the Crimson reporter about EVERY facet of his 1976 life; his coworkers, his job, his history with Harvard and the Puddings, EVERYTHING. HE WAS JOKING…THAT IS WHAT COMEDIANS DO.

    Comment by EekAMouse — January 22, 2007 @ 3:49 pm - January 22, 2007

  33. #29 – And while I’m at it, let’s not forget how everyone howled when Ann Coulter called the Jersey Girls “the Witches of East Brunswick” in her book GODLESS (The Church of Liberalism). Apparently she had transgressed by questioning their “moral authority.”

    As if.

    (Sigh) You guys make this too easy.

    Regards,
    Peter H.

    Comment by Peter Hughes — January 22, 2007 @ 4:09 pm - January 22, 2007

  34. #32 – I don’t take anyone seriously with a moniker like “EekAMouse.” ‘Nuff said.

    Regards,
    Peter H.

    Comment by Peter Hughes — January 23, 2007 @ 3:46 pm - January 23, 2007

  35. I wouldn’t expect gay conservatives to be able to pick up on irony when they see it. Seriously people A) there isn’t even any proof that he said that and B) Al Franken supports gay marriage and adoption. Which is more than I can say for 90% of republicans. Shame on you gay Uncle Toms.

    Comment by Sam — March 2, 2007 @ 3:20 pm - March 2, 2007

  36. Are you people retarded? Franklin is a professional comedian and was obviously joking in the passage above, as evidenced by the detailed description of him smiling whiling speaking.
    You must be so desperate to cover up Coulter’s inappropriate venom, as to sling mud at such an innocuous satirical slur by the so-tolerant-as-to-be-boring Franken.

    Comment by dan barnes — March 4, 2007 @ 2:21 am - March 4, 2007

  37. The quote in the Crimson is said to be "taken out of context" or is "edgy humor" but if you read the original article in the Crimson, you can see that there is no "context" to take the quote out of.

    And no, I don’t "get" the "joke," either.

    And the murder was quite real.  Franken was  joking about the 1975 gay-bashing murder of Knight-Ridder newspapers heir John Shivery Knight III to the Harvard Crimson in 1976.   Franken begged the reporter to put the quote in The Crimson…

    Oh, I get it now!  Stabbing a Fag!  Oh that IS funny!  No, wait, it isn’t!
     
    Al Franken is homophobic, I am afraid. The idea that his comments "have to be taken in context" is nonsense. This isn’t "edgy humor" it is gay-bashing, plain and simple.

    And this one quote is not an isolated incident with him.

    I remember one of his "Fraken & Davis" skits back in the late 1970′s, when I was an impressionable youth.

    The duo appear onstage in south seas outfits (complete with grass skirts and coconut bras) to do their "sketch". The "joke" was that Davis picks this time to "come out" on the air and express his love for Al, who spurns his advances.

    The overall impression of the act was one of mockery of homosexual impulses, which in 1978, was considered an acceptable form of humor (Johnny Carson loved this form of joke, often at other’s expense, such as his long runnin inneunedos about Wayne Newton).

    Hey, it was the 1970′s, and gay-bashing was all the rage, right?

    That’s all the "context" you need.

    There is a pattern to Franken’s behavior. His homophobia is now nicely masked, but still present.

    It should be noted also that "SNL" has been unapologically homophobic over the years. Lorne Michaels never heard a gay joke he didn’t like. Sketches and cartoons like:
    "The Ambiguously Gay Duo"
    "Bisexual Minute"
    "Gays in Space"
    "It’s Pat"
    "Lyle, the Effiminent Heterosexual"
    "She’s the Girl wtih No Gaydar!"
    "Sprockets"
    etc. etc. etc.
    are all pretty typical of the genre.

    If you work on a show like that, and you don’t say anything or try to change it, then you are part of it. Franken was not only a writer on the show, but later a producer as well.

    For a LIBERAL DEMOCRAT to act this way  is shocking.  Has Franken apologized or anything?  NO!  He just says "I guess they didn’t like the gay joke" (which one?) and says it was "edgy humor" that was "taken out of context."

    Al Franken is a dangerous man, because he thinks he is always right about everything, all the time, and he never needs to apologize or change his mind.

    And everyone who disagrees with him is a demon or a monster, not someone you can work with in the Senate or draft compromise legislation.

    He will be a disaster as a Senator.  Even Hillary Clinton learned to get along with her adversaries in the Senate.  Al?  Forget it!

    We don’t need more like him in government.

    Left-wing facists.

    Comment by Joe Black — April 2, 2008 @ 9:49 pm - April 2, 2008

  38. Watch this video on YouTube of Al Franken explaining why he isn’t a gay-basher:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-iQqf1pWrg

    This is a scary video.  Al doesn’t apologize for any of his jokes, but turns the blame onto the people complaining.  Waassamatter with them?  No sense of humor!  (Note his shouting towards the end of the video, very scary).This guy has "issues" as we like to say.  Serious issues.  A former wrestler, you say?  Hmmmmm…..
    Oh, hey, Al!  That was a JOKE!  You just don’t get "edgy humor" and are taking things out of context!
    The other scary thing about him, is that any criticism of him is just dirt from "Republicans". 

    No one, it seems, is allowed to make a legitimate criticism of his candidacy, as he never makes mistakes, and is always perfect.

    Not suprisingly, he is a Hillary ("HRC" as he calls her) supporter.

    Such a sense of entitlement!

    BTW, the RIGHT thing to do here is not to explain away these gaffes, but to apologize for being so completely freaking insensitive.

    I mean, you’d think a DEMOCRAT would know that, of all people.

    Comment by Joe Black — April 2, 2008 @ 10:13 pm - April 2, 2008

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