But hey, it’s not like they ever went through it the way you did, correct?

Regards,
Peter H.

At my Army physical in 1942, the psychologist wrote in my army record, “He has no desire for women.” That did not keep me from serving 4 years - 3 overseas. Although there was no sexual activity, there were many guys in all branches of the militaryat that time

This is why gay groups should be focusing on and supporting only those candidates that promote their legislative agenda.

Supporting a party, because you “think” it is better than the other party in the end gets members in congress the group supported that votes against their agenda, and it ends up leaving out members that are supportive.

Just like the blue slips for judicial nominees… it’s all about moving forward on near perfect consensus or not moving ahead without 60 votes.

And on the Wage Bill, 60 is the magic number long before the vote.

Regards,
Peter H.

Why should BigLabor or the HouseDems have a clean bill on the issue of minimum wage hikes when that’s rarely been a tradition or result of legislative politics? Oh…. because BigLabor says so? Because Dems have to prove they can deliver on their 100 hours agenda? LOL.

For myself, if the tax relief/minimum wage bill reaches the Senate floor with any gay rights provision (even if watered down) it’s still a better bill than originally envisioned by Dems and I’d support it.

Let’s say the minimum-wage bill were to reach the Senate floor, with Smith’s provision intact.

Would you support the bill, or not?

a Democratic Congress is once again blocking gay rights according to its sense of convenience

So when was the last time? This Congress has been in session for less than four weeks. And the last time we had a Democratic Congress was 1994.

In passing, I see that among the policies supported by NGLTF on its homepage is the repeal of DADT. Is that a Nazi cause too?

Getting back to Smith’s amendment, how do you know it’s not a “poison pill” meant to kill the minimum-wage bill? That would be a good thing, right?

We’re choosing between the lesser of two evils for every single issue and election in this country. Both parties suck.

No wonder Stonewall is humping his leg. As long as he’s “their” homophobe, it don’t matter.

My big problem here is that appears that ONE senator has the power to block a bill. I’ve always been a huge critic when one @$$hole senator, usually someone like Byrd has the power to do that.

I do want to take issue with GP’s comment about DADT and DOMA. First, I have never been a fan of Clinton’s. He originally was going to allow gays in the military, no strings attached, but compromised. However, he is the first President where a gay person could enter the military and not automatically be dismissed for being gay. As for DOMA, yeah, that was awful. But to my knowledge, the current President has not proposed repealing those acts. Further, if my memory is correct, he also wanted to go beyond DOMA and twice proposed an amendment. Too bad where we still have to choose between the lesser of two evils when it comes to gay rights.

And JAQ, dear, your point about the ranking Dem thinking an amendment of this nature could kill the tax relief bill… bunk. Anyone over 20 with a moderate sense of what “works” in Congress or the Senate knows that everything is fluid right up to the point of it being readied for the Prez’s signature.

It’ll kill the delicate legislative compromise that’s been reached to date? Bunk.

Seems to me the fact that the democrats, who are promoted as “pro gay rights” doesn’t seem to interested in living up to that definition.

Maybe it is time gay groups stop backing parties and start backing individuals that support gay rights.

(1) The NGLTF is often, or usually, more interested in pushing a Left / neo-Socialist agenda than they are in actual gay rights.

(2) Socialism, and Left politics generally, have a great deal in common with fascism, e.g., German National Socialism… by no means limited to the constant attempts to berate or silence those who think differently from them, the promulgation of speech codes, etc.

That’s plenty right there. So, I wouldn’t know - or assume - if Bruce had also meant to suggest that the NGLTF has in any way joined the increasingly apparent anti-Semitism of the Left. (The latter noticed by observers here, here, here, and a great many other places, as it has clearly been on the rise.)

(1) Bruce’s point, that a Democratic Congress is once again blocking gay rights according to its sense of convenience, stands.

(2) vaara can neither answer nor handle it, and hence, resorts to hand-waving tactics.

Neither surprises any smart reader of this blog.

that is what you meant by that “National (Socialist)” jibe, right?

Oh, wait… that was a different topic.

In any case, since Brown is a RINO and thus, presumably, the evilest thing next to the arch-fiend Hillary herself, this is a Democrat-vs.-Democrat issue, isn’t it?