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		<title>By: John W</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2007/01/31/senators-suggest-fdr-missing-chance-to-engage-germany/comment-page-1/#comment-62861</link>
		<dc:creator>John W</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Feb 2007 04:52:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#25.Peter H. Don&#039;t know if Bruce permits e-mail addresses on here but mine is jwaggy@comcast.net</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#25.Peter H. Don&#8217;t know if Bruce permits e-mail addresses on here but mine is <a href="mailto:jwaggy@comcast.net">jwaggy@comcast.net</a></p>
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		<title>By: Peter Hughes</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2007/01/31/senators-suggest-fdr-missing-chance-to-engage-germany/comment-page-1/#comment-62860</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Hughes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Feb 2007 21:18:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#23 - No problem, John.  I enjoy your perspective and take on history.  Thank you for being a true &quot;gay patriot&quot; at a time when our country needed them the most.

Regards,
Peter H.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#23 &#8211; No problem, John.  I enjoy your perspective and take on history.  Thank you for being a true &#8220;gay patriot&#8221; at a time when our country needed them the most.</p>
<p>Regards,<br />
Peter H.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Hughes</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2007/01/31/senators-suggest-fdr-missing-chance-to-engage-germany/comment-page-1/#comment-62859</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Hughes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Feb 2007 20:10:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No problem, John.  Thanks for being a true &quot;gay patriot&quot; in our country&#039;s time of need.

I posted more info under the &quot;Gays in the Ranks&quot; section above.  As GPW would tell you, I am a WWII historian and war buff.  Both my parents experienced the war in different theatres under different circumstances.

In the meantime, I would love to hear more from you.

Regards,
Peter H.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No problem, John.  Thanks for being a true &#8220;gay patriot&#8221; in our country&#8217;s time of need.</p>
<p>I posted more info under the &#8220;Gays in the Ranks&#8221; section above.  As GPW would tell you, I am a WWII historian and war buff.  Both my parents experienced the war in different theatres under different circumstances.</p>
<p>In the meantime, I would love to hear more from you.</p>
<p>Regards,<br />
Peter H.</p>
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		<title>By: John W</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2007/01/31/senators-suggest-fdr-missing-chance-to-engage-germany/comment-page-1/#comment-62858</link>
		<dc:creator>John W</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Feb 2007 03:08:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry. That should have been for Peter H</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry. That should have been for Peter H</p>
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		<title>By: John W</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2007/01/31/senators-suggest-fdr-missing-chance-to-engage-germany/comment-page-1/#comment-62857</link>
		<dc:creator>John W</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Feb 2007 02:23:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pwter H There is a few of us still left. I enjoy your comments. So true!  I served in the army from 1942 to 1946 most of the time in Europe. I remember &quot; George&quot; and I think the lady was &quot;Meg at the Mike&quot;.
JohnW</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pwter H There is a few of us still left. I enjoy your comments. So true!  I served in the army from 1942 to 1946 most of the time in Europe. I remember &#8221; George&#8221; and I think the lady was &#8220;Meg at the Mike&#8221;.<br />
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		<title>By: Bobo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bobo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Feb 2007 02:11:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lester - Truly remarkable. So if Iran nukes the Jews in Israel and kills millions, they have only themselves to blame? What about the Arabs that are citizens of Israel? Do they need to flee now? Does this also apply to gays in Iran? If they are hanged it&#039;s really their fault?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lester &#8211; Truly remarkable. So if Iran nukes the Jews in Israel and kills millions, they have only themselves to blame? What about the Arabs that are citizens of Israel? Do they need to flee now? Does this also apply to gays in Iran? If they are hanged it&#8217;s really their fault?</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Hughes</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2007/01/31/senators-suggest-fdr-missing-chance-to-engage-germany/comment-page-1/#comment-62855</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Hughes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Feb 2007 19:47:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#18 - Don&#039;t forget Tokyo Rose.  She was a big hit in her day.  I seem to recall both my dad and uncle talking about her radio program in the Pacific theatre.

She played popular songs and spewed hate-filled propaganda against America and all that it stood for.  Sort of what &quot;Air America&quot; and Keith (Closet-Case) Olbermann do today.  But I digress.

I asked them how they could restrain themselves listening to that crap.  My dad had the perfect answer:  &quot;Rather than taking her seriously, we just laughed at her.  Because we knew she was wrong.&quot;

Again, the same could apply to &quot;Air America&quot; and Olbermann.  Anyone else see a pattern here?

You can find out what happend to her and Axis Sally at this link:

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/mugshots/tokyorosemug1.html

Regards,
Peter H.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#18 &#8211; Don&#8217;t forget Tokyo Rose.  She was a big hit in her day.  I seem to recall both my dad and uncle talking about her radio program in the Pacific theatre.</p>
<p>She played popular songs and spewed hate-filled propaganda against America and all that it stood for.  Sort of what &#8220;Air America&#8221; and Keith (Closet-Case) Olbermann do today.  But I digress.</p>
<p>I asked them how they could restrain themselves listening to that crap.  My dad had the perfect answer:  &#8220;Rather than taking her seriously, we just laughed at her.  Because we knew she was wrong.&#8221;</p>
<p>Again, the same could apply to &#8220;Air America&#8221; and Olbermann.  Anyone else see a pattern here?</p>
<p>You can find out what happend to her and Axis Sally at this link:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.thesmokinggun.com/mugshots/tokyorosemug1.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.thesmokinggun.com/mugshots/tokyorosemug1.html</a></p>
<p>Regards,<br />
Peter H.</p>
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		<title>By: lester</title>
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		<dc:creator>lester</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Feb 2007 18:29:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>bobo-  ahmedenajad doesn&#039;t hate jews.  there are 25,000 jews in iran including a jewish MP in parliment.  He ,  like all of the middle east, hates israel.  there is no law against hating israel.

if israelis really feel another holocaust is imminent they should leave.  to suggest we move the whole neighborhood around for them is ridiculous.


calorato-  I was opposed to the sanctions against Iraq.


Iran is no threat to the united states. You can&#039;t prove otherwise without paranoid consiracy theories.  Is Iran going to nuke the US?  if not,  you have nothing</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bobo-  ahmedenajad doesn&#8217;t hate jews.  there are 25,000 jews in iran including a jewish MP in parliment.  He ,  like all of the middle east, hates israel.  there is no law against hating israel.</p>
<p>if israelis really feel another holocaust is imminent they should leave.  to suggest we move the whole neighborhood around for them is ridiculous.</p>
<p>calorato-  I was opposed to the sanctions against Iraq.</p>
<p>Iran is no threat to the united states. You can&#8217;t prove otherwise without paranoid consiracy theories.  Is Iran going to nuke the US?  if not,  you have nothing</p>
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		<title>By: Calarato</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2007/01/31/senators-suggest-fdr-missing-chance-to-engage-germany/comment-page-1/#comment-62853</link>
		<dc:creator>Calarato</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Feb 2007 18:17:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just remembered.  There WERE idiotarians in WW2 who spewed the stuff I mentioned.  (Another: &quot;Our soldiers are idiots, trapped in a war they shouldn&#039;t be in; support them by abandoning their goals / mission!&quot;)

One was called Axis Sally.  Another, I think, was Lord Haw-Haw.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just remembered.  There WERE idiotarians in WW2 who spewed the stuff I mentioned.  (Another: &#8220;Our soldiers are idiots, trapped in a war they shouldn&#8217;t be in; support them by abandoning their goals / mission!&#8221;)</p>
<p>One was called Axis Sally.  Another, I think, was Lord Haw-Haw.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Hughes</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2007/01/31/senators-suggest-fdr-missing-chance-to-engage-germany/comment-page-1/#comment-62852</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Hughes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Feb 2007 17:04:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;there is no simliarity between Iran and hitlers germany. nor is analogy a very effective way of making an argument.&quot;

Then quit doing it, kiddo.

Regards,
Peter H.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;there is no simliarity between Iran and hitlers germany. nor is analogy a very effective way of making an argument.&#8221;</p>
<p>Then quit doing it, kiddo.</p>
<p>Regards,<br />
Peter H.</p>
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		<title>By: Calarato</title>
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		<dc:creator>Calarato</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Feb 2007 15:31:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, and lest I forget: &quot;Hitler was CONTAINED in his European box - our sanctions on him were working!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and lest I forget: &#8220;Hitler was CONTAINED in his European box &#8211; our sanctions on him were working!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Calarato</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2007/01/31/senators-suggest-fdr-missing-chance-to-engage-germany/comment-page-1/#comment-62837</link>
		<dc:creator>Calarato</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Feb 2007 15:30:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#14 - No surprise here either.

You can just imagine the complete garbage they&#039;d be spewing, if WW2 were today.  &quot;Hitler is off in Europe, he can&#039;t threaten us.  Europeans aren&#039;t fit for democracy; clearly they only want to kill each other.  Hitler didn&#039;t attack us; Japan did!  Hitler doesn&#039;t have any WMD.  Hitler&#039;s nuclear program could easily be peaceful like he says, and anyway, why do we think we should be the only nuclear power?  This war is a quagmire!  Roosevelt is INCOMPETENT!! - 1000 lost at Kasserine pass in ONE DAY!!!  ROOSEVELT LIED to get us into this war!!!!! even though we all voted for it, after seeing the same events &amp; intelligence - how DARE you mention that!&quot;

You know, just like the garbage they&#039;ve been spewing about Iraq - and now, Iran.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#14 &#8211; No surprise here either.</p>
<p>You can just imagine the complete garbage they&#8217;d be spewing, if WW2 were today.  &#8220;Hitler is off in Europe, he can&#8217;t threaten us.  Europeans aren&#8217;t fit for democracy; clearly they only want to kill each other.  Hitler didn&#8217;t attack us; Japan did!  Hitler doesn&#8217;t have any WMD.  Hitler&#8217;s nuclear program could easily be peaceful like he says, and anyway, why do we think we should be the only nuclear power?  This war is a quagmire!  Roosevelt is INCOMPETENT!! &#8211; 1000 lost at Kasserine pass in ONE DAY!!!  ROOSEVELT LIED to get us into this war!!!!! even though we all voted for it, after seeing the same events &amp; intelligence &#8211; how DARE you mention that!&#8221;</p>
<p>You know, just like the garbage they&#8217;ve been spewing about Iraq &#8211; and now, Iran.</p>
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		<title>By: ThatGayConservative</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2007/01/31/senators-suggest-fdr-missing-chance-to-engage-germany/comment-page-1/#comment-62836</link>
		<dc:creator>ThatGayConservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Feb 2007 11:11:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BTW, is anybody else not at all surprised at all that the America hating libs don&#039;t get Bruce&#039;s post?

I know I&#039;m not. And I know this isn&#039;t the first time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW, is anybody else not at all surprised at all that the America hating libs don&#8217;t get Bruce&#8217;s post?</p>
<p>I know I&#8217;m not. And I know this isn&#8217;t the first time.</p>
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		<title>By: ThatGayConservative</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2007/01/31/senators-suggest-fdr-missing-chance-to-engage-germany/comment-page-1/#comment-62851</link>
		<dc:creator>ThatGayConservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Feb 2007 07:28:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WTF?

Now Osama Obama is telling Negroponte what&#039;s up? What is that about?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WTF?</p>
<p>Now Osama Obama is telling Negroponte what&#8217;s up? What is that about?</p>
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		<title>By: North Dallas Thirty</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2007/01/31/senators-suggest-fdr-missing-chance-to-engage-germany/comment-page-1/#comment-62850</link>
		<dc:creator>North Dallas Thirty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Feb 2007 06:39:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I put it this way, Tano; the fact that you attempt to twist GP&#039;s and my words to &quot;prove&quot; your point is, in its own way, a perverse form of flattery.

And as for the insult, now that I look at it, comparing them to Obama is degrading to Chamberlain and Deladier; &lt;i&gt;they&lt;/i&gt; both lacked the experience that Obama should have in terms of what happens when you appease and pander to regimes that openly promote genocide.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I put it this way, Tano; the fact that you attempt to twist GP&#8217;s and my words to &#8220;prove&#8221; your point is, in its own way, a perverse form of flattery.</p>
<p>And as for the insult, now that I look at it, comparing them to Obama is degrading to Chamberlain and Deladier; <i>they</i> both lacked the experience that Obama should have in terms of what happens when you appease and pander to regimes that openly promote genocide.</p>
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		<title>By: BoBo</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2007/01/31/senators-suggest-fdr-missing-chance-to-engage-germany/comment-page-1/#comment-62849</link>
		<dc:creator>BoBo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Feb 2007 05:55:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#7 Let&#039;s start with both Iran and the Nazi&#039;s hate of and active advocation of the extermination of the Jews. Think about that and then tell us again that you don&#039;t see the analogy or simliarity between the two.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#7 Let&#8217;s start with both Iran and the Nazi&#8217;s hate of and active advocation of the extermination of the Jews. Think about that and then tell us again that you don&#8217;t see the analogy or simliarity between the two.</p>
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		<title>By: HardHobbit</title>
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		<dc:creator>HardHobbit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Feb 2007 02:30:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It appears that Obama&#039;s concern is moot, though I&#039;m sure it&#039;s greatly appreciated.

That &#039;diplomatic approaches&#039; (How many are there, by the way?) aren&#039;t/weren&#039;t being pursued should hardly surprise anyone.  Whether by design or by &#039;stumbling&#039;, a wider war including Iran was one of the dangers we considered prior to invading Iraq, right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It appears that Obama&#8217;s concern is moot, though I&#8217;m sure it&#8217;s greatly appreciated.</p>
<p>That &#8216;diplomatic approaches&#8217; (How many are there, by the way?) aren&#8217;t/weren&#8217;t being pursued should hardly surprise anyone.  Whether by design or by &#8216;stumbling&#8217;, a wider war including Iran was one of the dangers we considered prior to invading Iraq, right?</p>
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		<title>By: Tano</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2007/01/31/senators-suggest-fdr-missing-chance-to-engage-germany/comment-page-1/#comment-62847</link>
		<dc:creator>Tano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Feb 2007 02:17:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NDT,

So, you agree that Bruce&#039;s little snark is incoherent.
Yeah, thats what I was figuring.

Gotta give props to you though - that was a very original insult you dredged up.

You guys think you going to get anywhere running on autopilot?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NDT,</p>
<p>So, you agree that Bruce&#8217;s little snark is incoherent.<br />
Yeah, thats what I was figuring.</p>
<p>Gotta give props to you though &#8211; that was a very original insult you dredged up.</p>
<p>You guys think you going to get anywhere running on autopilot?</p>
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		<title>By: North Dallas Thirty</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2007/01/31/senators-suggest-fdr-missing-chance-to-engage-germany/comment-page-1/#comment-62846</link>
		<dc:creator>North Dallas Thirty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Jan 2007 23:25:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Are you trying to compare America to Hitler’s Germany?&lt;/i&gt;

Hardly.

A more apt comparison would be Barack Obama to Neville Chamberlain or Edouard Daladier.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Are you trying to compare America to Hitler’s Germany?</i></p>
<p>Hardly.</p>
<p>A more apt comparison would be Barack Obama to Neville Chamberlain or Edouard Daladier.</p>
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		<title>By: lester</title>
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		<dc:creator>lester</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Jan 2007 22:47:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t understand the analogy at all.  there is no simliarity between Iran and hitlers germany.  nor is analogy a very effective way of making an argument.  if we were to make analogies,  the neo cons wwant war and hitler wanted war.  there:  the neo cons are hitler.  all hawks are hitler with the power of bs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t understand the analogy at all.  there is no simliarity between Iran and hitlers germany.  nor is analogy a very effective way of making an argument.  if we were to make analogies,  the neo cons wwant war and hitler wanted war.  there:  the neo cons are hitler.  all hawks are hitler with the power of bs.</p>
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