Comments on: My Problem with John McCain http://www.gaypatriot.net/2007/02/14/my-problem-with-john-mccain/ The Internet home for American gay conservatives. Fri, 10 Feb 2012 18:41:57 -0700 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.1 By: GayPatriot » Anti-McCain Media Bias: Biggest Irony of Campaign ‘08? http://www.gaypatriot.net/2007/02/14/my-problem-with-john-mccain/comment-page-1/#comment-330522 GayPatriot » Anti-McCain Media Bias: Biggest Irony of Campaign ‘08? Tue, 11 Nov 2008 13:30:35 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/?p=956#comment-330522 [...] McCain’s White House bid, I wrote that I was troubled by the Arizona Senator’s “tendency to posture on certain issues to please the media.”  They responded to such posturing by treating him well.  In return, he jokingly called [...] [...] McCain’s White House bid, I wrote that I was troubled by the Arizona Senator’s “tendency to posture on certain issues to please the media.”  They responded to such posturing by treating him well.  In return, he jokingly called [...]

]]> By: GayPatriot » The Interminable Campaign Draws to a Close http://www.gaypatriot.net/2007/02/14/my-problem-with-john-mccain/comment-page-1/#comment-328580 GayPatriot » The Interminable Campaign Draws to a Close Tue, 04 Nov 2008 11:45:18 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/?p=956#comment-328580 [...] the course of this campaign, my opinion of that man, John McCain, has changed from one of doubt to [...] [...] the course of this campaign, my opinion of that man, John McCain, has changed from one of doubt to [...]

]]> By: GayPatriot » John McCain’s Greatness & His Campaign’s Biggest Flaw http://www.gaypatriot.net/2007/02/14/my-problem-with-john-mccain/comment-page-1/#comment-325294 GayPatriot » John McCain’s Greatness & His Campaign’s Biggest Flaw Fri, 24 Oct 2008 17:35:57 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/?p=956#comment-325294 [...] admire John McCain.  This is not to say I’ve found him perfect, but that I’ve overcome my doubts about the Arizona Senator and become convinced he could be an excellent chief [...] [...] admire John McCain.  This is not to say I’ve found him perfect, but that I’ve overcome my doubts about the Arizona Senator and become convinced he could be an excellent chief [...]

]]> By: GayPatriot » Some Thoughts on John McCain http://www.gaypatriot.net/2007/02/14/my-problem-with-john-mccain/comment-page-1/#comment-217698 GayPatriot » Some Thoughts on John McCain Fri, 13 Jun 2008 00:35:24 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/?p=956#comment-217698 [...] week, when I was working my endorsement of then-presidential candidate Rudy Giuliani, I went back over my posts on the 2008 presidential [...] [...] week, when I was working my endorsement of then-presidential candidate Rudy Giuliani, I went back over my posts on the 2008 presidential [...]

]]> By: GayPatriot » John McCain, Hillary, the Media and the “B” Word http://www.gaypatriot.net/2007/02/14/my-problem-with-john-mccain/comment-page-1/#comment-145691 GayPatriot » John McCain, Hillary, the Media and the “B” Word Mon, 28 Apr 2008 06:30:09 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/?p=956#comment-145691 [...] such fortitude is helping allay some of my doubts about the Arizona Senator’s presidential [...] [...] such fortitude is helping allay some of my doubts about the Arizona Senator’s presidential [...]

]]> By: GayPatriot » Why I voted for John McCain in the CA GOP Primary http://www.gaypatriot.net/2007/02/14/my-problem-with-john-mccain/comment-page-1/#comment-90857 GayPatriot » Why I voted for John McCain in the CA GOP Primary Thu, 28 Feb 2008 22:01:26 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/?p=956#comment-90857 [...] That year, I could identify the moment when I decided to vote for Bush. It was when, as I noted here, McCain refused to address talk show Michael Reagan’s concern that he might appoint Supreme [...] [...] That year, I could identify the moment when I decided to vote for Bush. It was when, as I noted here, McCain refused to address talk show Michael Reagan’s concern that he might appoint Supreme [...]

]]> By: Calarato http://www.gaypatriot.net/2007/02/14/my-problem-with-john-mccain/comment-page-1/#comment-27971 Calarato Sat, 17 Feb 2007 18:48:04 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/?p=956#comment-27971 This would be my other problem with John McCain - Must see: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTuwBw9q3Sw (actually I admire him for it :-) ) This would be my other problem with John McCain – Must see:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTuwBw9q3Sw

(actually I admire him for it :-) )

]]> By: Gay Republicans on GOP Front Runners « Blowhard http://www.gaypatriot.net/2007/02/14/my-problem-with-john-mccain/comment-page-1/#comment-27970 Gay Republicans on GOP Front Runners « Blowhard Thu, 15 Feb 2007 21:44:41 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/?p=956#comment-27970 [...] Gay Republicans on GOP Front Runners 15 02 2007 A couple of died in the wool gay republican voices weigh in on the leading GOP Presidential hopefuls… B. Daniel Blatt (AKA GayPatriotWest) on John McCain and Dale Carpenteron Mitt Romney and Rudy Guiliani.  Dale Carpenter poses: “As someone who knows grassroots Republican politics from some experience… the nominee will be chosen by a disciplined and hard-working core of religious conservatives for whom two issues matter more than anything else… those issues are abortion and gay rights… the party’s primary electorate is vehemently against both.” [...] [...] Gay Republicans on GOP Front Runners 15 02 2007 A couple of died in the wool gay republican voices weigh in on the leading GOP Presidential hopefuls… B. Daniel Blatt (AKA GayPatriotWest) on John McCain and Dale Carpenteron Mitt Romney and Rudy Guiliani.  Dale Carpenter poses: “As someone who knows grassroots Republican politics from some experience… the nominee will be chosen by a disciplined and hard-working core of religious conservatives for whom two issues matter more than anything else… those issues are abortion and gay rights… the party’s primary electorate is vehemently against both.” [...]

]]> By: Ian http://www.gaypatriot.net/2007/02/14/my-problem-with-john-mccain/comment-page-1/#comment-27969 Ian Thu, 15 Feb 2007 21:42:51 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/?p=956#comment-27969 I really don't understand why social conservatives don't like McCain: when it comes to their hot button issues, he's solidly in their camp. He opposes abortion and has always been anti-gay from his fundraising for the Oregon Citizens Alliance in the early 1990's to his doing ads for the draconian marriage initiative here in Arizona in 2006. His temper, though will do him in and it will be interesting to see which of the other Republick Party candidates goads him into losing it first. From what I've heard, Rudy has a pretty thin skin too. It should be fun watching those two go at it. I really don’t understand why social conservatives don’t like McCain: when it comes to their hot button issues, he’s solidly in their camp. He opposes abortion and has always been anti-gay from his fundraising for the Oregon Citizens Alliance in the early 1990′s to his doing ads for the draconian marriage initiative here in Arizona in 2006.

His temper, though will do him in and it will be interesting to see which of the other Republick Party candidates goads him into losing it first. From what I’ve heard, Rudy has a pretty thin skin too. It should be fun watching those two go at it.

]]> By: Bruce (GayPatriot) http://www.gaypatriot.net/2007/02/14/my-problem-with-john-mccain/comment-page-1/#comment-27968 Bruce (GayPatriot) Thu, 15 Feb 2007 19:51:32 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/?p=956#comment-27968 Amen, Dan, Amen!! Rudy-Newt '08 Amen, Dan, Amen!!

Rudy-Newt ’08

]]> By: David M http://www.gaypatriot.net/2007/02/14/my-problem-with-john-mccain/comment-page-1/#comment-27967 David M Thu, 15 Feb 2007 18:06:08 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/?p=956#comment-27967 Trackbacked by The Thunder Run - <a href="http://thunderrun.blogspot.com/2007/02/web-reconnaissance-for-02152007.html" rel="nofollow">Web Reconnaissance for 02/15/2007</a> A short recon of what’s out there that might draw your attention. Trackbacked by The Thunder Run – Web Reconnaissance for 02/15/2007
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]]> By: My Problem with John McCain « The Cisco Kid’s Voice http://www.gaypatriot.net/2007/02/14/my-problem-with-john-mccain/comment-page-1/#comment-27966 My Problem with John McCain « The Cisco Kid’s Voice Thu, 15 Feb 2007 15:23:18 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/?p=956#comment-27966 [...] My Problem with John McCain My Problem with John McCain [...] [...] My Problem with John McCain My Problem with John McCain [...]

]]> By: Jimbo http://www.gaypatriot.net/2007/02/14/my-problem-with-john-mccain/comment-page-1/#comment-27965 Jimbo Thu, 15 Feb 2007 15:04:14 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/?p=956#comment-27965 Actually, McCain's butt-kissing of the religious right (harsh words yes, but that's what it is) has been expected. The GOP is increasingly becoming a sectarian (read: Christian) party & that's where the power is. I used to admire McCain when he was a maverick & not afraid to ruffle feathers. But now he has moved several notches down in my book. Add to that his famous temper (he has a notoriously short fuse) & the fact that he will be 72 in 2008 lowers the chances that he will win the presidency. Actually, McCain’s butt-kissing of the religious right (harsh words yes, but that’s what it is) has been expected. The GOP is increasingly becoming a sectarian (read: Christian) party & that’s where the power is. I used to admire McCain when he was a maverick & not afraid to ruffle feathers. But now he has moved several notches down in my book. Add to that his famous temper (he has a notoriously short fuse) & the fact that he will be 72 in 2008 lowers the chances that he will win the presidency.

]]> By: torrentprime http://www.gaypatriot.net/2007/02/14/my-problem-with-john-mccain/comment-page-1/#comment-27964 torrentprime Thu, 15 Feb 2007 07:55:06 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/?p=956#comment-27964 Thanks Calarato. It's good to see that such rigorous debate as <i>was</i> going on between McCain's faction and Bush's, before the 2006 accord, did in fact not result in McCain being labeled as a traitor, or America-hater, etc., at least on this blog. Also, I note in passing that Bush did sign McCain's bill--with a signing statement saying he may not always be bound by it. It would be interesting to know how Bush views the law's limitations, if any, versus what Congress intended when they wrote it. Thanks Calarato. It’s good to see that such rigorous debate as was going on between McCain’s faction and Bush’s, before the 2006 accord, did in fact not result in McCain being labeled as a traitor, or America-hater, etc., at least on this blog.

Also, I note in passing that Bush did sign McCain’s bill–with a signing statement saying he may not always be bound by it. It would be interesting to know how Bush views the law’s limitations, if any, versus what Congress intended when they wrote it.

]]> By: Calarato http://www.gaypatriot.net/2007/02/14/my-problem-with-john-mccain/comment-page-1/#comment-27963 Calarato Thu, 15 Feb 2007 06:01:45 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/?p=956#comment-27963 Sorry - public COMMENTS (not "contents") ;-) Sorry – public COMMENTS (not “contents”) ;-)

]]> By: Calarato http://www.gaypatriot.net/2007/02/14/my-problem-with-john-mccain/comment-page-1/#comment-27962 Calarato Thu, 15 Feb 2007 06:01:15 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/?p=956#comment-27962 For the record: McCain and Bush have the same position on coercive interrogation (mis-labelled "torture") now. They devised the 2006 bill together, Bush signed it, and McCain has (in terms of public contents I know of) been more than happy to let Bush brag about all that. For the record: McCain and Bush have the same position on coercive interrogation (mis-labelled “torture”) now. They devised the 2006 bill together, Bush signed it, and McCain has (in terms of public contents I know of) been more than happy to let Bush brag about all that.

]]> By: torrentprime http://www.gaypatriot.net/2007/02/14/my-problem-with-john-mccain/comment-page-1/#comment-27961 torrentprime Thu, 15 Feb 2007 05:41:57 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/?p=956#comment-27961 I've never been a fan of his political actions, esp. as regards campaign finance reform. "To protect our democracy we have to ban speech before elections" is so counter-intuitive, so mind-boggling, and he's proud of it! Also, his witch hunt over steroids seems to me to be the epitome of nanny state, digging in your bedroom conservatism, and not the small government conservative I'm (still) waiting for... GPW: i don't know your thoughts on the torture issue, but I am gratified to hear you describe McCain as "steadfast in his support of the War on Terror and unwavering in his commitment to victory in Iraq " given his position on the Bush admin re: torture. I’ve never been a fan of his political actions, esp. as regards campaign finance reform. “To protect our democracy we have to ban speech before elections” is so counter-intuitive, so mind-boggling, and he’s proud of it! Also, his witch hunt over steroids seems to me to be the epitome of nanny state, digging in your bedroom conservatism, and not the small government conservative I’m (still) waiting for…

GPW: i don’t know your thoughts on the torture issue, but I am gratified to hear you describe McCain as “steadfast in his support of the War on Terror and unwavering in his commitment to victory in Iraq ” given his position on the Bush admin re: torture.

]]> By: GayPatriotWest http://www.gaypatriot.net/2007/02/14/my-problem-with-john-mccain/comment-page-1/#comment-27960 GayPatriotWest Thu, 15 Feb 2007 05:37:22 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/?p=956#comment-27960 Chet, I don't see Giuliani's stance on judges as a shift to the right. He has always been a judicial conservative -- and all he's saying is that judges should interpret the law, not make it. Chet, I don’t see Giuliani’s stance on judges as a shift to the right. He has always been a judicial conservative — and all he’s saying is that judges should interpret the law, not make it.

]]> By: ThatGayConservative http://www.gaypatriot.net/2007/02/14/my-problem-with-john-mccain/comment-page-1/#comment-27959 ThatGayConservative Thu, 15 Feb 2007 05:33:24 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/?p=956#comment-27959 I missed the Meltdowns mentioned above. Is there a transcript? Anyway, McCain-Feingold, the Gang of Fourteen and his sucking up to the drive-bys just frosts me. I like Rudy, although at this point I'm not entirely sure he's what we need. There's no question, though, that he'd be tough on national security. BTW, Gingrich has said that he would decide in the fall. I missed the Meltdowns mentioned above. Is there a transcript?

Anyway, McCain-Feingold, the Gang of Fourteen and his sucking up to the drive-bys just frosts me.

I like Rudy, although at this point I’m not entirely sure he’s what we need. There’s no question, though, that he’d be tough on national security.

BTW, Gingrich has said that he would decide in the fall.

]]> By: Vince P http://www.gaypatriot.net/2007/02/14/my-problem-with-john-mccain/comment-page-1/#comment-27958 Vince P Thu, 15 Feb 2007 01:46:49 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/?p=956#comment-27958 I wrote this about McCain when he started to offer his own Senate Non-Binding resolution: IMHO John McCain is one of the principle reasons why the GOP lost Congress. How many times does this pattern need to play out: - The American people vote for Republicans - The Democrats do something extreme to block the agenda - John McCain swoops in and makes some sort of "compromise" which in the end serves to block whatever it was the Democrats wanted to block. - Republicans lose the issue and the voter gets more angry and disillusioned. He did with the Judicial nomination process He did with Bush's proposal regarding Gov't workers being protected from Torture lawsuits And he's doing it with our vital war. He wants to make a "oversight" committee. Great..its bad enough the Courts are interfering with the CinC, and now he wants to add Congress to that? Is there no limit to the self-defeat of John McCain. he needs to go. and fast. I know one thing, because of his positions there is no way he will ever be elected president. No politician gets my support solely because the letter D is not after his name. If he doesn't have the letter A after his name (for America) he can go prostitute himself to someone else. I wrote this about McCain when he started to offer his own Senate Non-Binding resolution:

IMHO John McCain is one of the principle reasons why the GOP lost Congress. How many times does this pattern need to play out:

- The American people vote for Republicans
- The Democrats do something extreme to block the agenda
- John McCain swoops in and makes some sort of “compromise” which in the end serves to block whatever it was the Democrats wanted to block.
- Republicans lose the issue and the voter gets more angry and disillusioned.

He did with the Judicial nomination process
He did with Bush’s proposal regarding Gov’t workers being protected from Torture lawsuits

And he’s doing it with our vital war.

He wants to make a “oversight” committee.

Great..its bad enough the Courts are interfering with the CinC, and now he wants to add Congress to that?

Is there no limit to the self-defeat of John McCain. he needs to go. and fast.

I know one thing, because of his positions there is no way he will ever be elected president.

No politician gets my support solely because the letter D is not after his name.

If he doesn’t have the letter A after his name (for America) he can go prostitute himself to someone else.

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