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The US never supported Bin Laden , that is a myth.

No party keeps us safer than the other

That’s laughable. The Democrats actively undermine all the things we’re trying to do to go after Islamic militants.

This is from Canada Free Press (the URL is being blocked when I try to post)

To you Leftists… are you going to ignore this too?

Radical Muslim paramilitary compound flourishes in upper New York state The 70 acre complex is surrounded with “No trespassing”
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A sentry post has been established at the base of the hill.

The sentry, at the time of this visit, is an African American dressed in Islamic garb – - a skull cap, a prayer shawl, and a loose fitting shalwat kameez. He instructs us to turn around and leave. “Our community is not open to visitors,” he says.
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On the other side of the hill where few dare to go is a tiny village replete with a make-shift learning center (dubbed the “International Quranic Open University”); a trailer converted into a Laundromat; a small, green community center; a small and rather squalid grocery store; a newly constructed majid; over forty clapboard homes; and scores of additional trailers.

It is home to hundreds – - all in Islamic attire

Venturing into the complex last summer, Douglas Hagmann, an intrepid investigator and director of the Northeast Intelligence Service, came upon a military training area at the eastern perimeter of the property. The area was equipped with ropes hanging from tall trees, wooden fences for scaling, a make-shift obstacle course, and a firing range. Hagmann said that the range appeared to have been in regular use.

Nearly every weekend, neighbors hear sounds of gunfire. Some, including a combat veteran of the Vietnam War, have heard the bang of small explosives. None of the neighbors wished to be identified for fear of “retaliation.”

There are at least 15 of these scattered throughout the USA.

Because, leftist Ian, your entire “logic” is based on al-Qaeda having no reason to hate us, propagandize against us, or attack us, as well as a complete inability to recruit, unless we are in Iraq.

What I did was simply point out that al-Qaeda hated us, propagandized against us, attacked us, and had no problem recruiting people to fight us during the entire Clinton administration when we didn’t have a soul in Iraq or Afghanistan.

The sole difference between now and then is that they are under direct attack by US soldiers, who have killed, by most estimates, upwards of 50,000 of them, who are methodically picking them off day and night, and who are being aided by Sunni tribes and others in Iraq who have figured out that al-Qaeda has no qualms about killing anyone who doesn’t give them exactly what they want, including other Sunnis or Muslims.

Meanwhile, despite the best efforts of leftist Democrats like yourself, we have systematically deprived them of funding and the ability to transfer money, of secure communications, and of nation-states to support them — the only ones left being the Democrat-endorsed regimes of Syria and Iran, both of whom are only supported by people like yourself who put Bush-hatred above all else.

And this is a hilarious example of how completely contradictory leftist puppets like you are, Ian:

In hindsight, Clinton should have avenged the Cole bombing and swung the election to Gore. But who was to know that Bushco sorry, the Bushies would sit on their fat asses and ignore the increasing threat of terrorism in favor of focusing on rounding up New Orleans hookers?

So you pander and spin about Clinton’s non-response, but then you blast the Bush administration for not responding.

And of course, you leave out the 1993 WTC bombing, the Khobar Towers bombing, the 1998 embassy bombings, and the fact that bin Laden declared war on the United States in 1996 and again in 1998, and the fact that it was obvious to everyone that the Taliban was sheltering him from the moment they took power in 1996 — all of which would make even more blatantly obvious the complete and utter LACK of response from what was supposedly an “enormous threat” to the United States.

In hindsight, Clinton should have avenged the Cole bombing and swung the election to Gore. But who was to know that Bushco sorry, the Bushies would sit on their fat asses and ignore the increasing threat of terrorism in favor of focusing on rounding up New Orleans hookers?!!! You Bush dead-enders are a pathetic lot but the American people are finally seeing through your neocon lies and incompetence. But be sure that the GOP keeps the faith with Bush so that pack of scoundrels follows him off the cliff and good Americans can begin the long task of erasing the dark blot these last six years of Bush failures have left behind.

Let me take my hat off to you for that evisceration of Ian’s prattling, as I try to pick up my jaw off the floor.

Indeed. And it’s not businesses that are refusing to do that; it’s government.

It’s also becoming obvious that al Qaeda in Iraq would lose their “America is the enemy” appeal immediately after we leave Iraq.

And after we leave Afghanistan too, right, leftist Ian?

In fact, let’s return to the blissful 1990s, when we weren’t invading or occupying ANY Middle Eastern country and when, by your leftist “logic”, al-Qaeda had no “America is the enemy” leg to stand on, since there was an appeasement-oriented Democrat in charge.

1993 WTC attack — oops.

1996 Khobar Towers attack — oops.

1998 East African embassies attack — oops.

2000 USS Cole bombing — oops.

And, since we hadn’t invaded or were occupying any Middle Eastern country yet….

2001 9/11 bombing — oops.

In all cases, Blame America Firsters like Ian jumped in, insisting that we needed to pander more, that we needed to do what the terrorists told us, that their attacks were justified, and that we should fall down and beg forgiveness rather than going after them and the states that were sheltering them.

And we did.

And they still hated us, blamed us for everything, and claimed we were the enemy.

So after 9/11, we changed our game plan. Instead of giving in to the bully, which obviously did nothing but ensure more attacks and more anti-American rhetoric, we fought back.

Now al-Qaeda is globally on the run, unable, despite the best efforts of the Democrat Party to protect them, to easily transfer funds, acquire weaponry, or to even have simple conversations without being caught.

Poor spinning Ian has also been trying to claim that al-Qaeda’s plan was to lure us into a quagmire in Afghanistan, just as they did the Soviets……which would explain why he and his leftist Democrat Party want a withdrawal from there as well, since obviously they drive their lives by what al-Qaeda wants.

The question becomes a matter of who and how illegals are reported to those responsible for enforcement. Yes, at some point this will have a cost attached to it, but I have no problem giving employers the tools they need to detect whether someone is illegal. And frankly, I really don’t care who is in power — my argument isn’t based upon political convenience.

When you’re ready to discuss the 2007 War to Prevent a Al Qaida founded Caliphate in Mesomopotomia, let me know.

Turn me into the police

Not a chance. In any event, it wouldn’t be you who got into trouble, it would be the owners of the blog. It seems to me a rude disregard for Bruce, Dan and their blog to put them at any risk for the consequences of copyright infringement.

Our basic mission there is complete: eliminate any WMD threat (even a non-existent one), and replace Saddam with a duly elected government and voter-approved constitution. Absent a competent and strong political/diplomatic engagement there is nothing further to be gained from having our military there. We have had sheer incompetence demonstrated in the occupation and there is nothing on the horizon to change that.

Now I believe Bush is so stubborn and arrogant that he will never pull the military out of Iraq. I would prefer otherwise but it’s just not going to happen with his twisted psyche calling the shots. I also think that most of the GOP members of Congress will follow their Dear Leader off the cliff unless and until it becomes clear their seats are in jeopardy. That was clear from the disgusting spectacle of “moderate” GOP Congressmen imploring Bush to do something to save them from an angry electorate. No concern for the lives of the troops, only their miserable political lives.

You all should be on your knees thanking the Congressional Dems for giving Bushco at least a little leverage with the Iraqi government. Unfortunately, it’s too little, too late.