We’re heading up to Chicago today for the YearlyKos Netroots Convention, the second annual gathering of progressive bloggers and political activists who work in new media. YearlyKos is sponsored by Daily Kos founder Markos Moulitsas Zúniga. The four-day event kicks off tonight with keynote speeches by Sen. Richard Durbin (D-IL), Gov. Howard Dean (D-VT), Gen. Wesley Clark, and Markos Moulitsas Zuniga. We’re looking forward to meeting up with various progressive and GLBT bloggers, many of which we’ll be meeting in person for the first time this weekend.
Now let’s keep in mind a couple of facts. First, the Hypocrite Rights Campaign bills itself as “non-partisan” when they aren’t billing themselves as “bi-partisan” and when they aren’t being pure shills for the Democrat Nut-ional Committee. Second, since HRC shows up to the most radical Leftist nutroot group that exists today in America, how on earth can they honestly claim they want to reach out to “mainstream America” much less to moderate Republicans in Congress?
I’m guessing the war on gays by Islamic extremists won’t be worth a mention at the Kos lovefest. And far be it for the HRC to bring it up. It is an inconvenient truth.
So I have a question for Chris Johnson at HRC’s “Back Story”…. Would you accept an invitation to attend the CPAC Conference, or another conservative political conference? And let’s not hear the bull about “not ever being invited.” After all, yours truly was welcomed with open arms at the John Locke Foundation’s blogger conference in North Carolina last year.
-Bruce (GayPatriot)
I guess for the HRC, hating gays is bad, but hating everything else, a la the Daily Kos, is fine.
Question for you GP: Do you think that HRC would have been invited to CPAC?
I’m sure that blogger’s conference was a big deal, but inviting a die-hard conservative blogger who happens to be gay to a blogger’s conference is not really the same as inviting a representative from a group whose mission is to represent gay interests.
Wow. An entire convention for angry, miserable people. Why would anybody spend money to be around such people.
Sure, lets see if the public participation of HRC at a Conservative Event would be welcomed. Would HRC be able to participate in open forums and ask questions at the forums and breakout groups? Or even if they were publically tolerated at the convention, would they just be invited to listen to ad hominem attacks on LGBT people and equal rights and people?
I remember the last time I tried to participate in a Conservative Event. It was the 2000 Texas State GOP Convention in Fort Worth. We definately weren’t welcome (even though we played by the GOP rules and most of us were officially representing Texans there as elected GOP delegates). Apparently we were just there to be called perverts and to be strongly physically threatened by the other delegates outside of the venue (in full view of the Fort Worth police and in full view of TV cameras).
I’m not a big fan of HRC, but this attack on them is a bit of a reach. So HRC supports organizations, candidates, and parties that support their goals.
In my opinion, you are attacking HRC for being overtly partisan, while engaging in the same behavior yourself. At the same time, you are claiming to argue that participating/supporting every single GOP candidate (name ONE Democrat that has been supported publically over a Republican – Lieberman doesn’t count – on this site by GP or GPW in any blog headline here) somehow supports the Gay community. It just isn’t credible.
Your attacks on anti-Gay behavior by selected Democrats loses credibility because you refuse to attack Republican anti-Gay behavior that is much more severe and much more comprehensive. There isn’t a double standard working here. The perception (and in opinion, the reality) is that when Dems win, LGBT issues get pushed forward. That is why selected Dems get away with mild anti-Gay behavior and that large LGBT organizations largely support Democrats.
If you don’t like HRC (or LCR for that matter), form your own organization and attend CPAC next year as a public group known to all the participants as a LGBT group. Hopefully you’ll have more luck than we did in Fort Worth.
So, the Democratic presidential candidates fall all over each other getting to the Kos Wacko Convention yet won’t appear on a Fox News debate nor will they deign to show up at the Democratic Leadership Council meeting.
If this is what passes for the mainstream, we’re doomed.
from a group whose mission is to represent gay interests.
I’m sure, TP, that you’ll let us know as soon as they start doing that, right?
Any minute now…..
The Kostards shrieking down a soldier who had the audacity to challenge their smug echo chamber is just icing on the cake.
#5 – Apples and oranges. HRC “claims” to be “non-partisan” and “bi-partisan”.
I do not.
G.P., Did you ever consider that if you weren’t actually gay, given the way you see the world, you’d probably be the most conservative vile homophobic bigot? Whether you like it or not, you owe the fact that you’re not in jail for having gay sex to those you label “left wing nut jobs.” Talk about cognitive dissonance…
(and in opinion, the reality) is that when Dems win, LGBT issues get pushed forward.
Such as…….???
Moreover, a better question would be why is it up to the government to bestow validation upon thee? Why not earn the validation on your own instead of plopping your ass down in the mud and wallowing in victimhood?
Besides, even if the Gay Left Borg got everything they wanted tomorrow morning, they’d have a list of things to bitch about by afternoon. What does infanticide have to do with us again?
Lets see…the Dems took over/increased their margins in several state legislatures this past election…directly resulting in LGBT bills passing in Iowa, Oregon, Washington, New Hampshire, and Colorado. The opposition to these bills comes overwhelmingly from the GOP. We are very close to getting similar bills passed in Montana and Pennsylvannia. Again, the problem is the GOP.
We now have a House and a Senate and a conference committee that will pass ENDA and HCPA/Shepard this year with minimal GOP support. Unfortunately, they will both be vetoed by Bush. We may even get a bill repealing DADT to hit Bush’s desk this session. Nationally, there wont be much enacted into law, but it is only because Bush is opposed. However, it is a victory if a majority of Congress supports such laws on the record.
Why do we need these laws? Maybe you don’t, but others do. It isn’t American to say to someone…’move to San Francisco if you don’t want to lose your job for being Gay’..or ‘it sucks that someone murdered you in Alabama and the jury let your killer off with a slap on the wrist because you were Gay’..or ‘I’m sorry the Sheriff didn’t protect you after you were raped because he doesn’t like Transgendered persons’…or ‘I’m sorry that the court gave you 2 years for a crime and tacked on 15 years because you are Gay’. etc. Government can’t solve all the problems, but it can certainly help.
You may not like the mainstream Gay community (what some of you call the radical Gay Left), but just imagine a world without us. There would still be police raids, entrapment, murders without justice, and none of you would have the the number of personal freedoms that you enjoy today.
I like Kos, but even I think some of ’em are too far out in left field sometimes. For instance, today there was a post about a book of poetry written by Guantanamo detainees. Now, I do believe the Guantanamo detainees should be afforded due process, but that is where my support ends. Most of them are likely guilty of serious crimes. A poem by a detainee? No thanks!
And then where does it end? You let big government have a tool to punish folks just for looking at you funny, which is all “Hate Crimes” will be, then you wind up with anti-sodomy laws like Ma Richards and a liberal legislature gave to Texas. How far are you going to allow the government to run your life? You wish it would stop at your bedroom door. Keep giving them power.
Essentially, you’re cheering for those who would FORCE people to like you. There’s ZERO evidence that shows that integration has done anything more than make a bunch of pu$$ies suffering from “White Guilt” feel better. What’s next? Are we to have quotas where schools and companies have to have so many gays working for them? Are you demanding discrimination of straights?
Here’s an idea. How about grabbing your sack, assuming you have one, and live your life and to hell what others think of you instead of handing more power to the government? Look, “sexual harrassment” has been bastardized to the point where it’s no longer about what it was intended. It’s become a tool for women to try and get rid of people they don’t like. I’ve been caught in that trap twice and I’m GAY. Think that excuse will work? Try it. At the most, you get fired. At the least, you get written up and/or have to endure a lecture by your supervisor that in all actuality wastes everybody’s time.
Further, “hate crimes” legislation grants extra protection to gays (for example) that a straight person would not get under similar circumstances. Where’s the “equality” in that? We’re all supposed to be for equality, right? Whenever gays chant incessantly about “equality”, I have to ask “equality for whom?”.
The reason Bush vetoed “hate crimes” legislation as governor was because it did not apply to all. I was in Texas at the time and remember it well. That’s why he opposed the James Byrd bill, but the liberal left didn’t want anybody to know that. That’s why they ran ads, which included the Byrd family, that Bush supports dragging a black man behind a truck to his death and that anybody who voted for Bush supported the same. I think that was the same reason there were ads claiming that if you voted for Bush, you supported burning black churches. The lesson is that if you support equality for all, your going to be attacked by the perpetual victims who demand special treatment.
By that you mean all Americans. Liberals hold that all Americans are too damn stupid to feign for themselves and need big government to tell them how much to get paid, what to eat, what to wear, what to drive etc. etc. etc. Sounds like “freedom” to you?
If you talk about “equality”, you’ll forgive me if I don’t believe you. You’ll also forgive me if I don’t drink your Kool-Aid that the government is the only entity capable of saving us from ourselves. The “War on Poverty” is just such an example. And you demand more of it? Damn I feel sorry for you.
Sorry if I wandered. Jack Daniel helped with the writing, but my point remains valid.
I’m sort of curious just what GLBT issues the national Democrats have pushed that make the whole community their disciples… The only major issue I’ve seen out of Washington Democrats was “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell”.
I’m also a little confused about all this squawking about “Republicans don’t support the gay community you hypocrites!!!1!!” Well duh. Of course Republicans don’t support the gay community. Republicans don’t support “communities” at all, because the right doesn’t subscribe to identity politics. The right tries to run things based on what is good for America as a whole, not what’s good for “my aggrieved identity group”. Sometimes – get this – those two things are not the same.
Killing terrorists, lowering taxes, and getting the government the hell out of my business might – just might – be more important than who I’m banging.
Big government = Dems? I wonder how Bush’s domestic spy agency fits into that fantasy… are you guys really happy that the executive branch is now unstoppable? I guess you have nothing to fear, now that Bush’s paperless voting machines, his freedom to spy on and listen to liberals, his determination to fire all federal officials who do not do exactly as they’re told, his ability to reject subpoenas without any consequence, and his control over all mainstream television media means there will never be anyone except a Bush-style Republican in the White House. Democracy is over in America.
[GP Ed. Note — Spoken like a true lib who sees conspiracies at every street corner and also thinks that the Federal Government is the end all and be all of America. Good heavens!]
#14: So basically, give foreign terrorists all the Constitutional protections enjoyed by American citizens… just don’t make me read their poetry. Ah, liberalism.
Killing terrorists, lowering taxes, and getting the government the hell out of my business might – just might – be more important than who I’m banging.
Not when you’re a self-absorbed narcissist and persistant victim.
So HRC supports organizations, candidates, and parties that support their goals.
Which includes this and this.
And, of course, this.
Therefore, since gay leftists and organizations shovel millions of dollars in endorsements and support to politicians and parties who pander to the religious right and support state and Federal constitutional amendments that these selfsame gay leftists and organizations claim make them second-class citizens…..I think we can honestly say that HRC’s and most gays’ goals are to support the Democrat Party, and that “gay rights” are only a front.
Let’s see…..what do HRC and gay Democrats support?
This.
And this.
And two of my favorites — this and this.
What that makes clear is this; HRC and gay Democrats/leftists don’t care one whit about gay rights, but about electing Democrats.
Which is why I don’t blame Republicans in the least for telling gays to take a hike. Why should they do anything for leftists like Tom and Thomas who namecall them for what they do, but who give millions of dollars and unquestioning support to Democrats who do the same thing?
Furthermore, in regards to ENDA and “hate crimes” laws, those are nothing but special-treatment laws for minorities.
Example: the former CEO of Boeing Aircraft, a white male, had a short consensual affair with a woman who didn’t work for him directly. He was fired immediately upon its being revealed.
Meanwhile, lesbian Bonnie Bleskachek, chief of the Minneapolis Fire Department, demanded sexual favors of subordinates, sabotaged and harassed those who refused her, and openly discriminated against males and straight people for years — but could not be fired, because Minnesota’s ENDA meant that, if she filed a lawsuit, she could be restored to her position because of her sexual orientation.
Corporate America has done a fine job of making its own nondiscrimination policies and applying them. However, those policies don’t apply in cases of sexual harassment, inappropriate behavior, and poor performance; therefore, gay leftists and Democrats demand that the law be put in place so that they, like Bleskachek, will be protected and guaranteed employment regardless.
As for “hate crimes” laws, gay leftists and Democrats insist that we need them because assaults against gay people aren’t punished without them and because they prevent hate crimes from ever happening.
However:
— Matt Shepard’s murderers were prosecuted and punished to the fullest extent, despite the fact that Wyoming had no hate crimes law.
— Hate crimes, such as perpetrated against Satendar Singh, or by the latest gang actions that seem to involve assaults on gays as a method of gang initiation, still happen in California and in San Francisco on a regular basis despite our having such laws and ordinances in place.
Therefore, in terms of actually doing what they’re supposed to do, these laws are pointless; however, they do serve a useful purpose in guaranteeing gays “special treatment”, which I think is the whole reason that Democrat gays push them in the first place.
Jake, let me put it this way.
If I want smaller government who am I going to vote for? The Republicans, who might be lieing when they promise to shrink it? Or the Democrats, who are definitely telling the truth when they promise to expand it?
Not a hard choice.
Is this site for real? Gay conservatives?
Are these people braindead?
I guess the stories about the Republican party being run by lots of huge closet cases are probably true.
I mean really, can it get any worse than the current state of affairs (after way too many years of Republican rule, I might add).
I happened to be looking up something else and noticed your site listed. This is simply leaning to the right & certainly as mean-spirited as any other right wing site….Viva Daily Kos. I am a patriotic American who happens to be gay & disagree with you. M.R. Basombrio
The administration isn’t fighting the Taliban or Al Qaeda or criticizing Iran on the basis of “the war on gays by Islamic extremists” you accuse the HRC of not criticizing. The fact of the matter is that gays are persecuted throughout the Arab world without our government saying a word about it. Recent incidents in Egypt (arrests and tortures of gays for simply congregating at a party), arrests in Saudi Arabia (where homosexuality is punishable by death) and the United Arab Emirates (where homosexuals were arrested, given forced hormone injections, and then sent to prison) come to mind. These are our FRIENDS in the Middle East. The suggestion that homosexuals should support the government’s foreign policy in order to save the lives of homosexuals is ludicrous. The present governments of Iraq and Afghanistan are both perfectly capable of rounding up and torturing homosexuals, and probably will do so when they have less on their plates. Right now I suspect they’re too distracted.