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		<title>By: Peter Hughes</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2007/09/05/the-gay-bar-thing/comment-page-1/#comment-34075</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Hughes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Sep 2007 21:09:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#49 - Barney&#039;s did move, but I have no idea about its whereabouts.

TGC - you should expect an e-mail from me soon.  Dan did his job.

Regards,
Peter H.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#49 &#8211; Barney&#8217;s did move, but I have no idea about its whereabouts.</p>
<p>TGC &#8211; you should expect an e-mail from me soon.  Dan did his job.</p>
<p>Regards,<br />
Peter H.</p>
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		<title>By: HT</title>
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		<dc:creator>HT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Sep 2007 15:24:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is Barney&#039;s still around?  Last time I was in Montrose it had moved. Hope they are doing well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is Barney&#8217;s still around?  Last time I was in Montrose it had moved. Hope they are doing well.</p>
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		<title>By: Pat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Sep 2007 14:09:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>47, Then it&#039;s a bisexual bar, because there is one pool table and one dance floor.  ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>47, Then it&#8217;s a bisexual bar, because there is one pool table and one dance floor.  <img src='http://www.gaypatriot.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: ThatGayConservative</title>
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		<dc:creator>ThatGayConservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Sep 2007 08:05:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#45

Just remember that anyplace that has more pool tables than dance floor is a lesbian joint. ;-)

Oh yeah, F*** the Yankees. I got their A-rod right here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#45</p>
<p>Just remember that anyplace that has more pool tables than dance floor is a lesbian joint. <img src='http://www.gaypatriot.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Oh yeah, F*** the Yankees. I got their A-rod right here.</p>
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		<title>By: ThatGayConservative</title>
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		<dc:creator>ThatGayConservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Sep 2007 08:01:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah La Mexicana. We went there a few times before decending on the bars. I don&#039;t remember it being great, but it was adequate. Same with Chapultapec.

There was a great place up on Holzworth in Spring called Cinco De Mayo. They had good food, but it burned down a few years ago. Javi and I went there probably a dozen times because it was good and right around the corner from where I lived.

I don&#039;t know about you, but I judge a Tex-Mex joint by it&#039;s fajitas. Javi judges it by their tortillas and chicken.


On a side note, I asked Dan to put you in touch with me via email, but I suspect he&#039;s not reading his email this weekend.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah La Mexicana. We went there a few times before decending on the bars. I don&#8217;t remember it being great, but it was adequate. Same with Chapultapec.</p>
<p>There was a great place up on Holzworth in Spring called Cinco De Mayo. They had good food, but it burned down a few years ago. Javi and I went there probably a dozen times because it was good and right around the corner from where I lived.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know about you, but I judge a Tex-Mex joint by it&#8217;s fajitas. Javi judges it by their tortillas and chicken.</p>
<p>On a side note, I asked Dan to put you in touch with me via email, but I suspect he&#8217;s not reading his email this weekend.</p>
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		<title>By: Pat</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2007/09/05/the-gay-bar-thing/comment-page-1/#comment-34071</link>
		<dc:creator>Pat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Sep 2007 15:36:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Due to my stunted gay growth in my 20s, I didn&#039;t frequent many gay bars then.  It wasn&#039;t until my mid 30s that my desire to go to gay bars kicked in, and I would go by myself most of the time.  Sometimes, I would converse with the bartenders or others, or not.  And there were certainly people with delusions of godhood and plenty of examples of overdone drama personified.  My most interesting encounter was when a guy approached me and we chatted, and found out that he was on a sabbatical, and there is one other profession besides professor that has sabbaticals.

But many of the things I found at gay bars happen at straight bars, just different dynamics and approaches.  Most people seem to like the bars and clubs that are overcrowded so that taking five steps is a journey comparable to Homer&#039;s Odyssey.  And loud, obnoxious music that you cannot have a normal conversation with your friend, or try to pick up that special for one-night person.   Bathroom conversations at straight bars can be interesting too.  Just no toe tapping, and you probably wouldn&#039;t want to pick up any pieces of paper that fall on the disgusting floors.

Now that I got the gay bar thing mostly out of my system, I don&#039;t frequent them as much as I used to.  But my partner and I go once or twice a month for a couple of hours.  We go early when it&#039;s not crowded, and we can request 80s music and shoot a couple of games of pool.  Also like to watch the Yankees or other sports, but that doesn&#039;t happen too often.  And sometimes we meet some decent people, and able to meet up outside the bar.

New Jersey, unfortunately, has about as many gay bars in the whole state as one block in the Village.  But we did find one that&#039;s pretty nice when not crowded.  Sometimes we head to the Village, but we also have a favorite straight bar in New York that we frequent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Due to my stunted gay growth in my 20s, I didn&#8217;t frequent many gay bars then.  It wasn&#8217;t until my mid 30s that my desire to go to gay bars kicked in, and I would go by myself most of the time.  Sometimes, I would converse with the bartenders or others, or not.  And there were certainly people with delusions of godhood and plenty of examples of overdone drama personified.  My most interesting encounter was when a guy approached me and we chatted, and found out that he was on a sabbatical, and there is one other profession besides professor that has sabbaticals.</p>
<p>But many of the things I found at gay bars happen at straight bars, just different dynamics and approaches.  Most people seem to like the bars and clubs that are overcrowded so that taking five steps is a journey comparable to Homer&#8217;s Odyssey.  And loud, obnoxious music that you cannot have a normal conversation with your friend, or try to pick up that special for one-night person.   Bathroom conversations at straight bars can be interesting too.  Just no toe tapping, and you probably wouldn&#8217;t want to pick up any pieces of paper that fall on the disgusting floors.</p>
<p>Now that I got the gay bar thing mostly out of my system, I don&#8217;t frequent them as much as I used to.  But my partner and I go once or twice a month for a couple of hours.  We go early when it&#8217;s not crowded, and we can request 80s music and shoot a couple of games of pool.  Also like to watch the Yankees or other sports, but that doesn&#8217;t happen too often.  And sometimes we meet some decent people, and able to meet up outside the bar.</p>
<p>New Jersey, unfortunately, has about as many gay bars in the whole state as one block in the Village.  But we did find one that&#8217;s pretty nice when not crowded.  Sometimes we head to the Village, but we also have a favorite straight bar in New York that we frequent.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Hughes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Hughes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Sep 2007 14:36:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#43 - TGC, the convenience store &quot;Hollywood&quot; is still there and just down the street from its sister properties, Hollywood Restaurant and Hollywood Videos.  The people that own the c-store also own the other places and are making money hand-over-fist.

Charlie&#039;s is still there, and so is Chapultepec.  Both, however, have kind of gone to pot.  Hollywood Restaurant is open until 4 am weekend nights so people usually go there for a bite after the clubs close.  Katz&#039;s &quot;never Kloses,&quot; as their slogan goes.

The Mexican place you remember is La Mexicana (Fairview @ Montrose).  It&#039;s good but frankly I&#039;ve had better at Cafe Adobe.  Plus, Tex-Mex restaurants in Houston are a dime a dozen.  The good ones last - the bad ones close.

Regards,
Peter H.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#43 &#8211; TGC, the convenience store &#8220;Hollywood&#8221; is still there and just down the street from its sister properties, Hollywood Restaurant and Hollywood Videos.  The people that own the c-store also own the other places and are making money hand-over-fist.</p>
<p>Charlie&#8217;s is still there, and so is Chapultepec.  Both, however, have kind of gone to pot.  Hollywood Restaurant is open until 4 am weekend nights so people usually go there for a bite after the clubs close.  Katz&#8217;s &#8220;never Kloses,&#8221; as their slogan goes.</p>
<p>The Mexican place you remember is La Mexicana (Fairview @ Montrose).  It&#8217;s good but frankly I&#8217;ve had better at Cafe Adobe.  Plus, Tex-Mex restaurants in Houston are a dime a dozen.  The good ones last &#8211; the bad ones close.</p>
<p>Regards,<br />
Peter H.</p>
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		<title>By: ThatGayConservative</title>
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		<dc:creator>ThatGayConservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Sep 2007 09:11:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;That would be Hollywood Restaurant, with some of the best Chinese/Vietnamese food in the Montrose district. Also, Baba Yega on Grant Street is still alive and well.&lt;/i&gt;

I remember there was a c-store at Montrose and Hyde Park Blvd.(?) called Hollywood. There was always a Moses looking homeless guy there. There was a Tex-Mex &amp; paneria joint down the street from there. Can&#039;t remember the name, but Javi and I used to go there from time to time.

Also, I used to frequent Charley&#039;s on Westheimer for a burger after the bars closed. I either went there or Chapultapec on Richmond.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>That would be Hollywood Restaurant, with some of the best Chinese/Vietnamese food in the Montrose district. Also, Baba Yega on Grant Street is still alive and well.</i></p>
<p>I remember there was a c-store at Montrose and Hyde Park Blvd.(?) called Hollywood. There was always a Moses looking homeless guy there. There was a Tex-Mex &amp; paneria joint down the street from there. Can&#8217;t remember the name, but Javi and I used to go there from time to time.</p>
<p>Also, I used to frequent Charley&#8217;s on Westheimer for a burger after the bars closed. I either went there or Chapultapec on Richmond.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Hughes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Hughes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Sep 2007 21:18:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#36 - &quot;Yeah TGCpartner told me there was a bistro or something behind South Beach or something?&quot;

That would be Hollywood Restaurant, with some of the best Chinese/Vietnamese food in the Montrose district.  Also, Baba Yega on Grant Street is still alive and well.

Walk a few blocks south of Pacific and you&#039;ll hit Katz&#039;s Deli on Westheimer.  Open 24 hours and (this is for you, Vera) prior to 2am serves the biggest &quot;fishbowl&quot; martinis you&#039;ve ever seen.

If anyone wants a tour of Houston&#039;s hotspots some weekend, Dan has my e-mail address.

Regards,
Peter H.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#36 &#8211; &#8220;Yeah TGCpartner told me there was a bistro or something behind South Beach or something?&#8221;</p>
<p>That would be Hollywood Restaurant, with some of the best Chinese/Vietnamese food in the Montrose district.  Also, Baba Yega on Grant Street is still alive and well.</p>
<p>Walk a few blocks south of Pacific and you&#8217;ll hit Katz&#8217;s Deli on Westheimer.  Open 24 hours and (this is for you, Vera) prior to 2am serves the biggest &#8220;fishbowl&#8221; martinis you&#8217;ve ever seen.</p>
<p>If anyone wants a tour of Houston&#8217;s hotspots some weekend, Dan has my e-mail address.</p>
<p>Regards,<br />
Peter H.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Hughes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Hughes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Sep 2007 21:14:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#37 - We allow each other to go where the other chooses because we trust each other.  However, I have no desire to go to the Pacific Street bars for the reasons I stated above, and Hubby doesn&#039;t drink at all.

If we do go out to a bar together, it is just for meeting people there ahead of time or playing video games - both of which we haven&#039;t done in months.

Regards,
Peter H.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#37 &#8211; We allow each other to go where the other chooses because we trust each other.  However, I have no desire to go to the Pacific Street bars for the reasons I stated above, and Hubby doesn&#8217;t drink at all.</p>
<p>If we do go out to a bar together, it is just for meeting people there ahead of time or playing video games &#8211; both of which we haven&#8217;t done in months.</p>
<p>Regards,<br />
Peter H.</p>
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		<title>By: HardHobbit</title>
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		<dc:creator>HardHobbit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Sep 2007 15:30:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#24  You nailed it -- flashback!  You reminded me of a night I had at the lamentably shuttered Kid Mohair in Seattle&#039;s Pike corridor.

#25  Uh, oh...  Did you happen to be at Seattle&#039;s Kid Mohair on Feb. 14, 1992?  You wouldn&#039;t happen to be small and ...

#39  Chase, we&#039;re glad you&#039;re here.  Ask Dan for my e-mail if you ever want to chat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#24  You nailed it &#8212; flashback!  You reminded me of a night I had at the lamentably shuttered Kid Mohair in Seattle&#8217;s Pike corridor.</p>
<p>#25  Uh, oh&#8230;  Did you happen to be at Seattle&#8217;s Kid Mohair on Feb. 14, 1992?  You wouldn&#8217;t happen to be small and &#8230;</p>
<p>#39  Chase, we&#8217;re glad you&#8217;re here.  Ask Dan for my e-mail if you ever want to chat.</p>
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		<title>By: Chase</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chase</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Sep 2007 15:00:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hate gin. I drank a bottle of gin in a suicide attempt at age 17 after a family member sent me an e-mail revealing they&#039;d discovered I was gay.

Just the smell of gin makes me sick to my stomach.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hate gin. I drank a bottle of gin in a suicide attempt at age 17 after a family member sent me an e-mail revealing they&#8217;d discovered I was gay.</p>
<p>Just the smell of gin makes me sick to my stomach.</p>
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		<title>By: Houndentenor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Houndentenor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Sep 2007 13:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m a former Houstonian.  I frequented JR&#039;s, Heaven (Fridays), Rich&#039;s (Thursdays, Saturdays and Sundays) and a few other places.  It was fun if you were out with friends.  I almost never go out now.  Occasionally I will meet a friend for a drink at Therapy after work (I live in NYC now).  I will say that it&#039;s much mroe pleasant to be out when there&#039;s no cigarette smoke but even with that bonus, by about 6:30 the music is so loud that conversation is impossible.  I get that in a dance club, but in a bar it&#039;s just annoying.  Straight bars don&#039;t do this.  Why do gay club managers assume none of us want to talk to people that we either came with or met there?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a former Houstonian.  I frequented JR&#8217;s, Heaven (Fridays), Rich&#8217;s (Thursdays, Saturdays and Sundays) and a few other places.  It was fun if you were out with friends.  I almost never go out now.  Occasionally I will meet a friend for a drink at Therapy after work (I live in NYC now).  I will say that it&#8217;s much mroe pleasant to be out when there&#8217;s no cigarette smoke but even with that bonus, by about 6:30 the music is so loud that conversation is impossible.  I get that in a dance club, but in a bar it&#8217;s just annoying.  Straight bars don&#8217;t do this.  Why do gay club managers assume none of us want to talk to people that we either came with or met there?</p>
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		<title>By: ThatGayConservative</title>
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		<dc:creator>ThatGayConservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Sep 2007 06:00:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s a question for y&#039;all:

Do/would you allow your partner to go out to the bars by himself or with friends?

I don&#039;t have a problem with my partner going out alone or with friends. He loves the fact that I trust him.

How about you guys?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s a question for y&#8217;all:</p>
<p>Do/would you allow your partner to go out to the bars by himself or with friends?</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t have a problem with my partner going out alone or with friends. He loves the fact that I trust him.</p>
<p>How about you guys?</p>
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		<title>By: ThatGayConservative</title>
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		<dc:creator>ThatGayConservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Sep 2007 05:57:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;But you can still find the leather and Levi daddies there,&lt;/i&gt;
No thanks.

Yeah TGCpartner told me there was a bistro or something behind South Beach or something? What I was referring to was the neighborhood south of Pacific or east of the bars. It was always pretty dark back in there even with the street lights.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>But you can still find the leather and Levi daddies there,</i><br />
No thanks.</p>
<p>Yeah TGCpartner told me there was a bistro or something behind South Beach or something? What I was referring to was the neighborhood south of Pacific or east of the bars. It was always pretty dark back in there even with the street lights.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom (Llos Angeles)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom (Llos Angeles)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Sep 2007 04:57:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BrianP has it right. Enjoy cocktails at East West or Eleven in West Hollywood, in Palm Springs, the Viceroy- all good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BrianP has it right. Enjoy cocktails at East West or Eleven in West Hollywood, in Palm Springs, the Viceroy- all good.</p>
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		<title>By: gil</title>
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		<dc:creator>gil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Sep 2007 04:18:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>file this under &quot;we are all getting older&quot;

so it goes</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>file this under &#8220;we are all getting older&#8221;</p>
<p>so it goes</p>
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		<title>By: Ian S</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ian S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Sep 2007 03:34:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#16:&lt;blockquote&gt;Both my partner and I much prefer a dinner at home (or out) with friends, and the conversation that comes with it, over screaming at one another in some smoky bar. Those personal connections are much more rewarding, IMHO.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
My sentiments exactly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#16:<br />
<blockquote>Both my partner and I much prefer a dinner at home (or out) with friends, and the conversation that comes with it, over screaming at one another in some smoky bar. Those personal connections are much more rewarding, IMHO.</p></blockquote>
<p>My sentiments exactly.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Hughes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Hughes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Sep 2007 02:25:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#29 - TGC, things have actually improved on Pacific Street since you last saw it mumble years ago...the streets are better lit, there are more restaurants and bistros dotting the area so it is not just about bars/clubs, and increased police presence for our safety.

Ripcord used to be a really dark S&amp;M/leather-type establishment but it&#039;s now gotten more preppy and younger.  But you can still find the leather and Levi daddies there, and from what I&#039;ve heard, the back patio is still smokin&#039; after 2 am closing...

Regards,
Peter H.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#29 &#8211; TGC, things have actually improved on Pacific Street since you last saw it mumble years ago&#8230;the streets are better lit, there are more restaurants and bistros dotting the area so it is not just about bars/clubs, and increased police presence for our safety.</p>
<p>Ripcord used to be a really dark S&amp;M/leather-type establishment but it&#8217;s now gotten more preppy and younger.  But you can still find the leather and Levi daddies there, and from what I&#8217;ve heard, the back patio is still smokin&#8217; after 2 am closing&#8230;</p>
<p>Regards,<br />
Peter H.</p>
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		<title>By: Vera Charles</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vera Charles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Sep 2007 01:08:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m with Peter - I&#039;ll stick with gin.

Brown liquor is just clear liquor that’s gone bad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m with Peter &#8211; I&#8217;ll stick with gin.</p>
<p>Brown liquor is just clear liquor that’s gone bad.</p>
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