Which is, IMHO, a miserable and pathetic way to go through life.

1) As remembered by several longtimers, Kevin seriously intoned on this blog some time ago that Republicans would happily exterminate gays.

2) But Kevin never backed it up (and still hasn’t) with any credible logic or specifics - though given many opportunities, then and now.

3) With a fading memory of who exactly said what, I recounted Kevin’s allegation with an embellishment placing the extermination facilities in “Wyoming or some such”.

Who is the “liar” (or teller of falsehoods) there? ‘Twill be clear, I dare say, to anyone not a kook. BUT - I do note Kevin’s brand-new claim here, that his old claim had only been a “literary comparison”. Though absurd, that may well be, for Kevin, the dynamic equivalent of an apology or retraction.

Further, and back to thread topic:

4) Kevin claims “the far right attacked and continues to attack gays as being largely responsible for the [9-11] attacks…” (emphasis added)

5) But Kevin is unable to cite a single contemporary example; nor even a past example, other than one instance from a known kook who, in fact, was promptly smacked down for it by most conservatives.

6) By contrast: as of this morning, Leftists and Democrats continue to pointedly NOT smack down MoveOn’s allegation of General Petraeus being a traitor to the United States.

I offer this not as a Virginian who favored or opposed the act, but as a Virginian who is first and foremost interested in the truth.

Is that kooky, or just nucking futs?

Reid, Pelosi, et.al. were waiting to pounce on anything Patraeus or Crocker said that could be used to sound-bite against the General and the Ambassador. While Patraeus and Crocker were too sharp to get caught in the Democrat snare, General Jones got himself sucked in.

Only time will tell whether Jones is a dupe, a cohort or a victim. He may have honest military differences with Patraeus, but Reid, Pelosi and friends are playing search and destroy politics, not a military strategy that enhances victory. They are determined to find a loser.

68: LOL. well, as if you look further throught that thread you’ll (well, just see above). I just love on this site how someone will make a statement y’all don’t agree with, find the furthest, lefty-left-left they can find and automatically label that as “everyone on the left agrees with this”

Fred Phelps is the only one? Really? Ever read the anti-gay Marriage “affirmation” act of Virginia? Not only does it it ban gay marriage, but it goes so far to say that same sex couples could not enter to any legal agreement that appeared to have the look of marriage/civil union (ie denying things such as civil power of attorney). In addition, it forbade even private companies from extending health benefits to same sex partners. Now, that ammendment was written by a conservative Republican, Bob Marshall. Imagine that: a freedom-loving Republican who openly advocated the ability of a minority class of people from entering into a legally binding contract. A Republican trying to put a limitation on a free-market, profit making company? Say it isn’t so!

So tell me then; how far do you think these types of laws and ammendments should be able to go? It was exactly this type of legislation that has led to internment/concentration camps in the past: “Don’t worry, we’re just gonna take *this* right away from you - you’re fine with everything else!” “Don’t worry, we’ll just take Poland, we won’t bother anyone else” It’s no longer a real democracy if so-called Americans/Patriots whole-heartedly approve the removal of rights and don’t believe in equal protection under the law.

Perhaps. Yet General Jones doesn’t have a record one can ignore either. He has had a long and distinguished career serving this nation, retiring as the first Marine general to serve as SACEUR/EUCOM commander. This, however, is where one can question legitimately question his view on Iraq. While Petraeus literally wrote the book on counter-insurgency and has the advantage of actually being the commander on the ground in Iraq, Jones does not know the theater and spent his career in a Cold War setting. There is a BIG difference between the two. The only area where Jones can draw upon experience for any similarities to Iraq is as a Platoon and then Company Commander in Vietnam for less than 1 year. Yet there is a huge difference between serving as a Lieuey and as overall commander in the combat theater. Both provide valuable insights, but the latter usually has a better idea of the overall picture. None of this impugns his service, he has an exceptional record, but it does put things into perspective.

Great, Dave! I served during the first go-round in the 1990s. When exactly did YOU wear the uniform? You oppose the war in Iraq I suppose, but what exactly have you done to fight al Qaeda in Afghanistan? Come on sweetheart, ‘enlighten’ us…

In looking over Dave’s posts, nothing makes his verbage rise to the level of a “troll.” I do not know a suitable designation for “saprophytic voyeur” but that is what Dave is. And, not too learned, as well.

I think the only reaction you provoked was gratitude that we’re on this side, and bitter stupid trolls like you are on the other.

Rogers implied that the consequences of a Bush win could be dire. He referred to �internment camps� that he said are being refurbished in Washington, Oregon and Idaho. �I know what happened to gay Jews who didn�t get out fast enough last time,� Rogers said.

And, since gay Democrats like Kevin support Rogers, as they do Lynne Stewart, you may hold him responsible for both.

Is he a kook? Personally, I think its kooky to be paranoid that Christians want to exterminate you, but not bothered at all by the fact that Islamists do.

It was awhile ago, and there’s no way I could want to bother finding the old comment(s), if it were even possible. Nor can I claim my memory is always perfect. Long story short, IF I have exaggerated the kernels of truth in the case, I apologize to Kevin and all for that extent of exaggeration.

Please note, of course, that “exaggeration” does not mean “falsehood” - and “lie” still less. Oh, excuse me, I forgot - in our Brave New World, the monosyllable “lie” has a new meaning, as “anything that any leftie doesn’t want to hear or concede, and can find the tiniest fault with.”