Comments on: Smaller Rallies, Increasing Ambivalence about the War?

By: ThatGayConservative

ThatGayConservative — Thu, 20 Sep 2007 04:28:19 +0000

Well, that explains a lot.

Yes it does. Evidently, you’re just as retarded as Sean. Thanks for proving it.

By: Heliotrope

Heliotrope — Wed, 19 Sep 2007 23:05:56 +0000

#16. If I were predisposed to put words in the mouth of Ian S, I might imagine that Downs Syndrome is an abortionable offense.

By: Ian S

Ian S — Wed, 19 Sep 2007 14:18:37 +0000

#14:

those of us who are Down’s Syndrome impaired

Well, that explains a lot.

By: Heliotrope

Heliotrope — Wed, 19 Sep 2007 13:25:49 +0000

#12 and #13 are spitting nails because their crusade to defeat the US military in Iraq has every sign of failing. Now they are saying:”And, even more, George W. Bush’s refusal to even take into account what the American people (you know, all the America-hating ones against SUCCESS IN the war, who are just a minority of deranged individuals) think about SUCCESS IN the war is just fabulous, too.”

Yessiree, SUCCESS in Iraq is a pesky, nasty, depressing thought for the defeatocrats.

By: ThatGayConservative

ThatGayConservative — Wed, 19 Sep 2007 10:12:25 +0000

That way you guys will continue to own this war

So you concede here and now that the liberals, invested in the defeat of the United States, will lose in 2008. I agree.

#13

HUH???? Could you please translate for those of us who are Down’s Syndrome impaired?

By: sean

sean — Wed, 19 Sep 2007 05:38:04 +0000

I think the war is going fabulously and George W. Bush is doing a bang up job with it and that is why there aren’t any protests anymore. Who could protest such a successful war campaign?!?! The Bush White House and the GOP should be so, so proud!! And, even more, George W. Bush’s refusal to even take into account what the American people (you know, all the America-hating ones against the war, who are just a minority of deranged individuals) think about the war is just fabulous, too. It sure makes sure that people won’t even go out and protest!! BECAUSE NO ONE IN THE WHITE HOUSE CARES what they think!!!! Absolutely brilliant on George W. Bush’s and the GOP’s part when it comes to this smashing success of war in Iraq.

By: Ian S

Ian S — Wed, 19 Sep 2007 04:49:34 +0000

Dan, please keep posts like this coming for the next year or so. That way you guys will continue to own this war and all the great things that are bound to be just around the corner with regard to it.

On a related subject, I’m sure you’re pleased that Reid is not going to provide wavering Repubs with toothless resolutions enabling them to pretend to be against the war. You guys want to own this mess lock, stock and barrel and we liberals are going to let you!

By: ThatGayConservative

ThatGayConservative — Wed, 19 Sep 2007 01:17:56 +0000

Besides, liberals have “people” to protest for them.

By: ThatGayConservative

ThatGayConservative — Wed, 19 Sep 2007 01:17:02 +0000

#7
Of course you can’t remove the narcissism of spoiled brat liberals from the equation either.

By: ThatGayConservative

ThatGayConservative — Wed, 19 Sep 2007 01:09:13 +0000

Disregard #2. That’s supposed to be in the thread above this one.

By: Mike

Mike — Tue, 18 Sep 2007 23:39:54 +0000

Depending how the poll questions are designed, they miss all that.

I must agree, ILC. I personally rarely take polls at face value – too easy to get caught up in something that isn’t thorough.

By: Heliotrope

Heliotrope — Tue, 18 Sep 2007 23:13:12 +0000

One small addition: Viet Nam protests arose in the age of protests. It was the populatr cultural outlet. Sit-ins led to police riots led to race riots led to the Chicago Seven, SDS, SDA, SLA, QRS and XYZ. Burn a ghetto or a physics lab or take over a president’s office at a college…..it was not a draft protest…..it was acting out in the extreme. The draft protest characters burned their cards and flags and went to Toronto until Jimmah invited them to come home to momma. Darn few resisted the draft and settled for jail time. Clinton, Kerry, Gore and probably Bush fiddled the system and stayed out of the jungle. Many, many well connected kids did. Of those, Kerry miscalculated and actually got somewhere near danger, but he got out of it as fast as he stumbled into it.

By: ILoveCapitalism

ILoveCapitalism — Tue, 18 Sep 2007 19:43:48 +0000

I have to wonder if the difference in protestor numbers now vs. during Vietnam is that most protestors then and now are those of draft age.

Mike, I should say – and, your follow-up comments affirm – that it is not the number of people of draft age, but the existence (or non-existence) of a draft as such, that makes a difference.

Assuming the poll numbers are correct about opposition to the war…

Poll numbers don’t measure the depth or shallowness off people’s opposition. Mainstream people who oppose the war, in my experience, ‘oppose’ it ambivalently. They think, “What a shame”, or “Why is it taking so long?”, or “What a pity it’s happening”. In fact, **I** oppose the war. I think all those exact same things. But I also support the people fighting it. I want their sacrifices to not be in vain, and I want the war to end with a victory for democracy in Iraq – not for al Qaeda in Iraq. I suspect I’m not alone. Depending how the poll questions are designed, they miss all that.

By: Ted B. (Charging Rhino)

Ted B. (Charging Rhino) — Tue, 18 Sep 2007 18:55:11 +0000

On the contrary, I think it’s the fringe that’s disconnected with the general populace and military. Recruiting is on-track, drawing from a wide spectrum of social and educational backgrounds except from the most-liberal elitist institutions. A few thousand aging hippies, disaffected anarchist graduate students and agenda-driven MSM-types does not make a “ground-swell of public opinion”.

By: Mike

Mike — Tue, 18 Sep 2007 18:07:25 +0000

I have to wonder if the difference in protestor numbers now vs. during Vietnam is that most protestors then and now are those of draft age. During Vietnam, more people were motivated by ending the war and not being drafted, but now people feel safe and don’t feel as motivated to demonstrate. Assuming the poll numbers are correct about opposition to the war (assuming only for my argument here, issues with polls in general aside), I would hazard to guess that it’s much easier to be apathetic when you have a mentality that the war is something going on “over there” that we send a professional military off to deal with. It strikes me as a reflection of how disconnected our general populace is from it’s military.

By: Heliotrope

Heliotrope — Tue, 18 Sep 2007 15:30:13 +0000

The democrats are good at telling a lie over and over until it becomes currency in many parts of the realm. They insist their slim majority is because the American people put them there to end this “awful, George W. Bush vanity war.” The MSM has been more than delighted to help them pull this taffy.

Certainly the war on terror is not a catalyst for homeland fervor. But there is no honest debate taking place concerning an alternative set of choices and actions.

Anti-war rallies will attract the same nucleus of saggy, baggy over-the-hill hippies and young Turks who always like to shout and curse. But the general population is not much motivated by the hate-fest the left has created.

2008 is going to be an interesting election. We Republicans still have a lot of good ole boy pols to get rid of before our party will have the Moxie to stand up to vermonous ways of the typical democrat demagogue. So far, it looks like the Stumblebums vs. the Bowery Boys.

This site is a wonderful place to read the inane thinking and posturing of some of the kook left. Their hate shines through like a zit on the end of the nose. Hate is an exteme “feeling” and that is all the left has to offer……not a logical construction….. just “feelings.”

By: ThatGayConservative

ThatGayConservative — Tue, 18 Sep 2007 10:16:50 +0000

I don’t know how to expound on what you said here. It’s absurd and appalling.

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