A bigger issue is parents spending a day in the sun with a young kid and not seeing fit to get the child some h2o. After 5 – 6 hrs in the sun I am beat, can’t imagine who the young uns are feeling.

to beat the dead horse, it may have started out as a gay event, but it is not just a gay event – it is fun for the whole family

Which was why you were so upset at these gays for doing it, you attacked heterosexuals. Just like Dan Savage attacked Michelle Malkin rather than the gays who actually did it.

One would think if you were actually upset with behavior, you would go after the people who did it. But that would require you to criticize your fellow Democrat gays, and you’re simply incapable of that.

Any gay activist fighting for civil rights and equitable treatment in law ought to gather that we need to condemn these types of public displays –and even their posters (ugh)– as PR nightmares to our cause in winning over the hearts, minds, and VOTES of average Americans who are repulsed by the routine sex stunts at FSF events. Hell, even I’m ashamed of my fellow gays acting in such a base, depraved, immoral manner. With public images like those recurrent in the media, we don’t even need a ChristianHate bandwagon tied up outside the election booth –we’re defeating ourselves.

Protecting the kids might show some moral courage but condemning the obscenity and depravity of FSF ought to be the primary thrust (no pun intended). In the bedroom or basement, between consenting adults –go for it. On a public street, these immature sociopaths are screwing all gays.

excuse me, but I’m not against this behavior because it’s bad PR as you say;

Why not? Do you approve of public sex and don’t you think that it does give us a bad image?

What’s really depraved is cheering on needless wars of aggression in which millions of innocents are killed maimed or made refugees.

Who here cheered on the Hutus? Better yet, who looked the other way and allowed the Hutus to slaughter the Tutsis? But hey, why screw around with that when you got Gen. Ashley Wilkes Clarke to run defense and play pocket pool while you got an oval oraface waiting under your desk?

And how about the half million dead Iraqi children?

Talk about “really depraved”. More like depraved indifference. But then again, how would a liberal know or care what’s depraved or not.

What’s really depraved is cheering on needless wars of aggression in which millions of innocents are killed maimed or made refugees.

I dont know anyone who is cheering on Saddams war of aggression against kuwaiit, which we are now finishing, unless its libs like you who didnt want to do anything to stop him. :^(

BDSM is inherently depraved (morally bad or evil; corrupt).

What’s really depraved is cheering on needless wars of aggression in which millions of innocents are killed maimed or made refugees.

BTW, pardon my ignorance but would “mundanes” be sorta like Muggles?

repello muggletum!

Surely in San Francisco that’s considered to be unconstitutional cruel and unusual punishment?

bahahahaha!

there actually are conservative people who are in favor of gays adopting

another good point. Michael Medved also comes to mind. While he favors children being raised by mother and father, he has said many times hed rather see a child raised by two loving gay parents than in a single parent household.

I guess midwest kinky people are different than the coastals.

that made me giggle

excuse me, but I’m not against this behavior because it’s bad PR as you say; I’m against it because the sexualization of children in this world, by any people for any reason is hideous, pure and simple.

Once again, you attempt to prove all your statements by false analogies and connections that don’t exist.

It is ok to be critical of the excesses of your group. Because those on the fringes are doing a lot more damage then you think. Sure we all are individual Americans, but all of us belong to some sort of group or another.
I’m not telling the BDSM crowd to be completely hidden from view (though not having their events in public would be nice). But they should have the decency to recognize that they should be self policing especially where children are concerned.

Next, to torrentprime:

We are individuals in this country, not part of a class or caste, and we don’t need for every member of our mutually-oriented brethren to act perfectly according to my or your moral values before the whole group is treated equally in this society.

Except, of course, when it comes to gay people deciding not to vote Democrat or to criticize the behavior of other gays, at which point they are derided for not keeping “gay unity” and acting in a manner consistent with their class or caste.

I believe the common epithets are “Uncle Tom”, “Jewish Nazi”, “self-loathing”, and other.