Comments on: Back at the Summit — Media Room http://www.gaypatriot.net/2007/10/05/back-at-the-summit-media-room/ The Internet home for American gay conservatives. Tue, 06 Jan 2009 23:16:04 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.1 By: ThatGayConservative http://www.gaypatriot.net/2007/10/05/back-at-the-summit-media-room/#comment-70914 ThatGayConservative Mon, 08 Oct 2007 03:40:18 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/?p=2673#comment-70914 #11 Hey! You're not supposed to know all that! Time for somone to go to DNC reeducation in the Democrat Underground. #11

Hey! You’re not supposed to know all that! Time for somone to go to DNC reeducation in the Democrat Underground.

]]> By: ILoveCapitalism http://www.gaypatriot.net/2007/10/05/back-at-the-summit-media-room/#comment-70905 ILoveCapitalism Sat, 06 Oct 2007 21:19:16 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/?p=2673#comment-70905 P.S. To respond to the indicated ideas more specifically: - “the White House used 9/11 to attack Iraq”: No, they used 9/11 to attack **Afghanistan**. To attack Iraq, they used 12 years of U.N. resolutions, intelligence from all world intelligence agencies about Saddam's links to terrorism as well as to WMD efforts, and most important, U.S. Congressional resolutions. The latter included a 1998 law (repeat, *law*) that required (repeat, *required*) the incumbent Administration to pursue Iraq regime change, plus the 2002 resolution authorizing the present war. - “The same White House will do the same thing against Iran”: If I may ignore / eliminate the conspiracy-mongering aspect which I've already refuted, and merely address the general question of whether the White House is considering an attack on Iran: I hope they are considering it. Some years ago, President Bush rightly identified Iraq, Iran and North Korea as the 3 leading rogue states. Given Iran's nuclear ambitions and ambitions to destroy both Israel and the United States, a pre-emptive attack on Iran might (repeat, **might**) be a very good thing. P.S. To respond to the indicated ideas more specifically:

- “the White House used 9/11 to attack Iraq”: No, they used 9/11 to attack **Afghanistan**.

To attack Iraq, they used 12 years of U.N. resolutions, intelligence from all world intelligence agencies about Saddam’s links to terrorism as well as to WMD efforts, and most important, U.S. Congressional resolutions. The latter included a 1998 law (repeat, *law*) that required (repeat, *required*) the incumbent Administration to pursue Iraq regime change, plus the 2002 resolution authorizing the present war.

- “The same White House will do the same thing against Iran”: If I may ignore / eliminate the conspiracy-mongering aspect which I’ve already refuted, and merely address the general question of whether the White House is considering an attack on Iran: I hope they are considering it.

Some years ago, President Bush rightly identified Iraq, Iran and North Korea as the 3 leading rogue states. Given Iran’s nuclear ambitions and ambitions to destroy both Israel and the United States, a pre-emptive attack on Iran might (repeat, **might**) be a very good thing.

]]> By: ILoveCapitalism http://www.gaypatriot.net/2007/10/05/back-at-the-summit-media-room/#comment-70908 ILoveCapitalism Sat, 06 Oct 2007 21:10:12 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/?p=2673#comment-70908 Crow, I'm going to acknowledge you here for attempting a very direct answer. Your example inspired me to do a little research. I just googled "ron paul larouche". The top hit shows that, while Ron Paul may not now (or in the past) be a LaRouche supporter, <a href="http://www.larouchepac.com/news/2007/08/05/ron-paul-warns-white-house-using-gulf-tonkin-incident-launch.html?" rel="nofollow">LaRouche is something of a Ron Paul supporter as they share similar ideas</a>. I don't believe in guilt-by-association. However, I do believe in criticizing and confronting bad claims / ideas as such. As the link makes clear, Ron Paul does walk around saying irresponsible stuff along the rough lines of "the White House used 9/11 to attack Iraq" and "The same White House will do the same thing against Iran". I'm sorry Crow, David, etc., but such sentiments do mark Paul as a conspiracy-mongerer who harms our troops' efforts with his insulting and misleading conspiracy-based claims... which, in layman's terms, is a "moonbat". Crow, I’m going to acknowledge you here for attempting a very direct answer.

Your example inspired me to do a little research. I just googled “ron paul larouche”. The top hit shows that, while Ron Paul may not now (or in the past) be a LaRouche supporter, LaRouche is something of a Ron Paul supporter as they share similar ideas.

I don’t believe in guilt-by-association. However, I do believe in criticizing and confronting bad claims / ideas as such. As the link makes clear, Ron Paul does walk around saying irresponsible stuff along the rough lines of “the White House used 9/11 to attack Iraq” and “The same White House will do the same thing against Iran”.

I’m sorry Crow, David, etc., but such sentiments do mark Paul as a conspiracy-mongerer who harms our troops’ efforts with his insulting and misleading conspiracy-based claims… which, in layman’s terms, is a “moonbat”.

]]> By: Crow http://www.gaypatriot.net/2007/10/05/back-at-the-summit-media-room/#comment-70910 Crow Sat, 06 Oct 2007 04:32:18 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/?p=2673#comment-70910 Ron Paul is not and has never been a Lydon LaRouche supporter, to my knowledge. LaRouche is not a libertarian, he's run for the Democrat nomination and Labor Party nomination. I'm not aware of any ideological similarities between Ron Paul and LaRouche. Ron Paul ran on the LP ticket in '88. I'm around both GOP and LP people (more GOP past few years), but never have run into any LaRouche fans, or anyone that has even brought him up. Ron Paul is not and has never been a Lydon LaRouche supporter, to my knowledge. LaRouche is not a libertarian, he’s run for the Democrat nomination and Labor Party nomination. I’m not aware of any ideological similarities between Ron Paul and LaRouche. Ron Paul ran on the LP ticket in ‘88. I’m around both GOP and LP people (more GOP past few years), but never have run into any LaRouche fans, or anyone that has even brought him up.

]]> By: ILoveCapitalism http://www.gaypatriot.net/2007/10/05/back-at-the-summit-media-room/#comment-70909 ILoveCapitalism Fri, 05 Oct 2007 21:16:46 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/?p=2673#comment-70909 My second question was tongue-in-cheek perhaps, but, my first was real and it remains unanswered. My second question was tongue-in-cheek perhaps, but, my first was real and it remains unanswered.

]]> By: GayPatriot http://www.gaypatriot.net/2007/10/05/back-at-the-summit-media-room/#comment-70906 GayPatriot Fri, 05 Oct 2007 19:04:06 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/?p=2673#comment-70906 I feel a Ron Paul attack coming on ..... I feel a Ron Paul attack coming on …..

]]> By: Crow http://www.gaypatriot.net/2007/10/05/back-at-the-summit-media-room/#comment-70907 Crow Fri, 05 Oct 2007 18:50:14 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/?p=2673#comment-70907 Ron Paul wouldn't saddle us with a national sales tax, and a larger and more powerful IRS-type bureaucracy to administer it. Think about it, if the people revolt against unconstitutional government, they don't pay their likely illegitimate tax burden. What are you going to do if the government has their tax collectors everywhere you shop? Stop buying things? The people will have one less check on tyrannical government. Ron Paul soundly advocates eliminating the IRS, and replacing it...with nothing. Ron Paul wouldn’t saddle us with a national sales tax, and a larger and more powerful IRS-type bureaucracy to administer it. Think about it, if the people revolt against unconstitutional government, they don’t pay their likely illegitimate tax burden. What are you going to do if the government has their tax collectors everywhere you shop? Stop buying things? The people will have one less check on tyrannical government. Ron Paul soundly advocates eliminating the IRS, and replacing it…with nothing.

]]> By: ILoveCapitalism http://www.gaypatriot.net/2007/10/05/back-at-the-summit-media-room/#comment-70913 ILoveCapitalism Fri, 05 Oct 2007 15:01:24 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/?p=2673#comment-70913 I just want to know 2 things about Paul: 1) Is he - or is he not - an ex-Lyndon Larouche follower? 2) Do his conspiracy-mongering and anti-Iraq views stem from insanity, or from the old John Bircher, isolationist type of tradition? I just want to know 2 things about Paul:

1) Is he - or is he not - an ex-Lyndon Larouche follower?

2) Do his conspiracy-mongering and anti-Iraq views stem from insanity, or from the old John Bircher, isolationist type of tradition?

]]> By: ILoveCapitalism http://www.gaypatriot.net/2007/10/05/back-at-the-summit-media-room/#comment-70903 ILoveCapitalism Fri, 05 Oct 2007 14:58:56 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/?p=2673#comment-70903 TGC, given some of the anti-Iraq-while-claiming-to-be-conservative-and/or-libertarian characters we've had around here, I'm surprised we don't see more Paul supporters around here. TGC, given some of the anti-Iraq-while-claiming-to-be-conservative-and/or-libertarian characters we’ve had around here, I’m surprised we don’t see more Paul supporters around here.

]]> By: GayPatriot http://www.gaypatriot.net/2007/10/05/back-at-the-summit-media-room/#comment-70904 GayPatriot Fri, 05 Oct 2007 14:58:25 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/?p=2673#comment-70904 TGC - The Ron Paul Crowd is quite dominate here. TGC - The Ron Paul Crowd is quite dominate here.

]]> By: ILoveCapitalism http://www.gaypatriot.net/2007/10/05/back-at-the-summit-media-room/#comment-70912 ILoveCapitalism Fri, 05 Oct 2007 14:57:34 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/?p=2673#comment-70912 An an “optional flat tax”? We already have one. It's called AMT. And it's a bitch, if you ever get caught in it. An an “optional flat tax”? We already have one. It’s called AMT. And it’s a bitch, if you ever get caught in it.

]]> By: ThatGayConservative http://www.gaypatriot.net/2007/10/05/back-at-the-summit-media-room/#comment-70911 ThatGayConservative Fri, 05 Oct 2007 14:55:37 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/?p=2673#comment-70911 Paul is the only one who has signs out around Polk County. They've been out for a month now. Paul is the only one who has signs out around Polk County. They’ve been out for a month now.

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