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Southern Conservatives Giving Bucks to Rudy

October 19, 2007 by B. Daniel Blatt

For Southern Conservatives the question is…. what’s worse than a pro-choice Republican?

Answer: President Hillary Clinton.

Southern Conservatives Open Wallet for Rudy Giuliani – NY Daily News (hat tip – GP Reader and PatriotFriend Dan Moho.)

The White House hopeful has raised more money than any other Republican across much of those Christian conservative strongholds.

The former mayor has collected more campaign cash than his GOP rivals in reliably Republican Georgia, Louisiana, Alabama, North Carolina and South Carolina, an analysis of fund-raising records shows.

He’s also tops in Bible Belt states such as Oklahoma, West Virginia, Florida and Texas, giving the ex-mayor a clear majority of Southern states.

Giuliani’s dominance in the Southern money race – while not necessarily translatable into votes – underscores his surprising strength in places where many may recoil at his pro-choice, pro-gay-rights views, experts say.

And it comes at a critical time. He heads tomorrow to a Values Voter Summit in Washington, where many of the nation’s top evangelical leaders will be listening closely to Giuliani’s comments on abortion, gun control and other social issues.

Some experts believe Southern voters are increasingly being swayed by Giuliani’s stance on other pressing issues – principally his conservative views on anti-terrorism and the economy, as well as a growing sense that he may be the best-equipped to take on Democratic front-runner Hillary Clinton.

“Some people are surprised by the Southern support he has, but it’s not that surprising to me – given the importance of national security and economic issues,” said Prof. Earl Black of Rice University in Texas, an expert on Southern politics.

“That’s particularly true if Hillary Clinton is the nominee,” added Black. “Giuliani may not look that good, but she’s going to look even worse to these voters.”

The more likely Hillary seems as the Democrat nominee, the more independents and conservatives will want a strong candidate to stop four years of Clinton Nightmare, Part II.  We are already making that clear by talking with our wallets.

-Bruce (GayPatriot)

Filed Under: 2008 Presidential Politics, National Politics, Post 9-11 America, We The People

Comments

  1. V the K says

    October 19, 2007 at 12:14 pm - October 19, 2007

    So, are the Republicans going to put forth an agenda, or is the entire theme of the campaign going to be “Stop Hillary?”

    If there’s going to be no border control, continued reckless spending, continued bigger government, and continued selling out of the American middle class in favor of cheap third-world labor, what does it matter whether it happens under the auspices of a Democrat or a Republican?

    Whether or not all of these things are really happening does not matter. There is a perception in the country that they are. If Republicans continue to be oblivious to this perception, and run a campaign based solely on “We’re not as bad as Hillary,” they’re going to lose.

  2. V the K says

    October 19, 2007 at 1:43 pm - October 19, 2007

    Off-Topic, but I got to rant about this. First, Senate Democrats smear Rush Limbaugh and write a nasty letter to his employers. Rush puts the letter up for auction on eBay, vowing to match the high bid with his own money. Now, Harry Greid makes a speech on the senate floor in which he tries to take credit for the letter and fails to mention Rush’s matching donation. Cheap Democrat bastard. Why don’t Harry Greed and the other 40 Democrats pony up a matching donation? Oh, I forgot. Democrats are only generous with other people’s money.

  3. Dave_62 says

    October 19, 2007 at 3:56 pm - October 19, 2007

    When New York liberals start blasting Rudy for being the Republican front runner, I pay attention. The more they smear him, the more I’m going to support him!

  4. ThatGayConservative says

    October 19, 2007 at 4:31 pm - October 19, 2007

    Interestingly, according to Sean Hannity, James Carvell (SP?) predicts that JEB will get the nomination next year. I need to take a moment to find where he predicted that and find his reasoning.

  5. ILoveCapitalism says

    October 19, 2007 at 5:38 pm - October 19, 2007

    V #1 – Exactly. When GOP has a principled agenda and Dems don’t, the GOP breaks through the 12:1 liberal media bias and wins the election. (Examples: ’80, ’84, ’94 and most recently, 2004.) But when the GOP has no agenda or principles except “We’re not the Democrats”, it loses. (Examples: ’98 and most recently, 2006.)

    Lesson: The GOP must have a principled agenda, in order to win. You’d think that would be obvious, especially to some folks who view themselves as politically brilliant. But it isn’t.

  6. ILoveCapitalism says

    October 19, 2007 at 5:47 pm - October 19, 2007

    P.S. Not that I mind the idea of Rudy winning – if he is going to put forth a “fighting”, principled agenda.

  7. Chase says

    October 19, 2007 at 6:57 pm - October 19, 2007

    But recent state polls show Clinton topping Giuliani in Arkansas (by a wide margin), Virginia and Tennessee. Also, if Clinton is the Democratic nominee, there’s not a bats chance in hell that Giuliani will carry his home state.

    When was the last time a candidate was elected President without carrying his home state? Hillary will carry all 3 of her “home” states: Illinois, Arkansas and New York.

  8. Chase says

    October 19, 2007 at 7:04 pm - October 19, 2007

    We are already making that clear by talking with our wallets.

    And yet Hillary Clinton has already raised more money at this point of the presidential cycle than any other candidate in US history.

  9. V the K says

    October 19, 2007 at 7:18 pm - October 19, 2007

    Hillary Clinton has already raised more money at this point of the presidential cycle than any other candidate in US history.

    A surprising amount of which seems to come from minimum wage food service workers whom no one seems to remember living at the addresses listed on their FEC forms.

  10. Saul Wall says

    October 19, 2007 at 7:59 pm - October 19, 2007

    “For Southern Conservatives the question is…. what’s worse than a pro-choice Republican? “

    Any Democrat at any time – ever. I am pro gay rights, pro choice, anti-creationism/Intelligent Design, and anti just about every religion with Islam being in the first order of magnitude and Christianity being a close second and all the rest being low grade annoyances. I should be the ultimate Democratic voter. But over the last seven years I have become so anti-Democrat that I would consider moving to Antarctica if the Democrats win any significant victories in 2008.

    The Dems are complete and total scum. The Republicans are just well-meaning normal scum.

  11. Heliotrope says

    October 19, 2007 at 8:48 pm - October 19, 2007

    ….especially to some folks who view themselves as politically brilliant.

    ILC hits the nail on the head.

    The field is crowded with “folks who view themselves as politically brilliant.” They get that way by successfully whoring for campaign funds and then developing a message that walks in both directions simultaneously on both sides of the street.

    We are finally reduced to trying to decide which one of these political mannequins might actually rise above the boilerplate and take a principled stand.

    Everyone knows that Hillary casts no shadow and only farts the flavor of the week. At least Rudy knows how to shine a spotlight on the roaches and send them back into the insulation behind the fridge where he can bomb them.

  12. dan says

    October 19, 2007 at 10:23 pm - October 19, 2007

    “Hillary Clinton has already raised more money at this point of the presidential cycle than any other candidate in US history.”

    Am I the only one who finds this perverse? Not in a crypto-Marxist way, just in a “Goddamn?” kinda way?

  13. ILoveCapitalism says

    October 19, 2007 at 10:56 pm - October 19, 2007

    thx HT 🙂

    Saul, welcome to the luau – I was a Democrat myself for over 15 years; will probably never join a party again – and, interesting blog you got there!

  14. Pat says

    October 20, 2007 at 7:03 am - October 20, 2007

    8 When was the last time a candidate was elected President without carrying his home state?

    I believe it was Woodrow Wilson when he was re-elected in a close race in 1916. He ran against Charles Evans Hughes, and Wilson didn’t win his home state of NJ. Al Gore came very close in 2000.

  15. gil says

    October 20, 2007 at 8:51 am - October 20, 2007

    Why are we surprised? Clinton derangement syndrome is runs deep.

    But who cares? Dumbledore is gay!!!
    My niece can finally relate to me!

  16. Heliotrope says

    October 20, 2007 at 10:41 am - October 20, 2007

    Clinton derangement syndrome is runs deep.

    Without question this is true.

    They could be caught taking money out of the Salvation Army offices in a wheel barrow and their loyal toadies would sputter some sort of justification or slime a reason why it was necessary in order to save the children.

    You nailed it, Gil! For those with Clinton derangement syndrome nothing is too outrageous to stick.

    With the Clinton hunger for wealth, why haven’t they just packed it in and cleaned up on cattle futures? With talent like that, all this center ring of the media circus seems like a stressful waste of time. (But, of course, for grifters, the thrill of the game is often the most excitement.)

  17. V the K says

    October 20, 2007 at 11:04 am - October 20, 2007

    Symptoms of Clinton Derangement Syndrome:

    1. You justify committing perjury because “everybody does it” and “it’s no big deal.”

    2. You say things like, “Osama Bin Laden hadn’t done anything illegal yet, so we were right to let him go.”

    3. You say things like, “It’s entirely plausible that Hillary had no idea that those hundreds of thousands in donations were coming from a wanted fugitive…”

    4. You justify firing the entire White House travel office (and replacing them with political cronies and fraudulently prosecuting them) and every Federal attorney because “it’s no big deal” and “everybody does it.”

    5. You justify selling presidential pardons and pardoning terrorists because “it’s no big deal” and “everybody does it.”

    6. You think it’s entirely plausible that the world’s smartest woman can’t keep track of her own legal records

    7. You justify thousands of FBI files on political opponents showing up at the Clinton White House (but get livid when the NSA listens in on terrorist plans.)

    Got more?

  18. HardHobbit says

    October 20, 2007 at 11:50 am - October 20, 2007

    #16 Pat, Clinton didn’t carry Arkansas.

  19. V the K says

    October 20, 2007 at 11:52 am - October 20, 2007

    Jindal 2016 looks better all the time.

  20. ThatGayConservative says

    October 20, 2007 at 2:52 pm - October 20, 2007

    #20
    I thought I rememberred that, but was too lazy to verify it.

  21. KYKid says

    October 20, 2007 at 7:10 pm - October 20, 2007

    Twenty-four percent, guys. Even “the Base” is now shrinking.

    http://www.reuters.com/article/politicsNews/idUSN1624620720071017

  22. Pat says

    October 20, 2007 at 9:52 pm - October 20, 2007

    20,22, I did a quick Wikipedia check (too lazy to go upstairs to check my World Almanac) and Clinton carried Arkansas both times.

  23. gil says

    October 21, 2007 at 7:50 am - October 21, 2007

    Your ravings are typical of Clinton Derangement Syndrome

    “Taking money out of the Salvation Army in wheelbarrows?”
    “Hunger for wealth”?
    Hyperanalyze every flaw?

    Don’t get me wrong here, I want to see the big B.O. in the Whitehouse too, but wipe off the foam from the corners of your mouth, she is just a person and not the devil incarnate.

  24. Heliotrope says

    October 21, 2007 at 11:30 am - October 21, 2007

    Hyperanalyze every flaw?

    Sorry, I can’t help but “notice” the “flaws” like the cattle futures, the chats with Eleanor, the axe to the necks in the travel office, the mysterious appearance of the billing records, the hiring of private detectives, the secrect meetings path to attempted socialized medicine, the supposed name-sake, taking charge of the bimbo eruptions, the “love and affection” for the military, the FBI raw data files, the constant ability to not remember the inconvenient truth, the number of associates who ended up dead, indicted and/or in jail.

    I still think your bumper sticker is the best: “Here comes the Big B.O.”

  25. HardHobbit says

    October 21, 2007 at 6:52 pm - October 21, 2007

    #24 Pat, correct! My bad.

  26. ThatGayConservative says

    October 22, 2007 at 1:42 am - October 22, 2007

    the number of associates who ended up dead, indicted and/or in jail.

    Or fled the country.

    Who are you kidding, gillie? The liberals will never elect a black man even if he isn’t “black enough”. They just won’t let that happen.

  27. ThatGayConservative says

    October 22, 2007 at 1:43 am - October 22, 2007

    Even “the Base” is now shrinking.

    You’re right. A base handing out an 11 point approval rating is much more desirable.

  28. Chase says

    October 23, 2007 at 1:40 pm - October 23, 2007

    Am I the only one who finds this perverse? Not in a crypto-Marxist way, just in a “Goddamn?” kinda way?

    Because everyone wants to be with the winning horse; At least, everyone with money and assets. That’s why you see CEO’s that gave the maximum donation to Bush in 2004 now giving the maximum donation to Clinton today.

  29. gerard pawling says

    January 8, 2008 at 5:33 pm - January 8, 2008

    …will michael bloomberg be the DARK HORSE…

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