Thanks to Vince P for the heads-up. Here are the two videos he referenced in comments earlier.
First, almost unbelieveably from CNN is a report featuring blogger Michael Yon (he finally is on network TV!) discussing the dramatic improvement in Iraq.
Second, is the Victory Parade in Ramadi.
I’ll give the first person $100 that provides me definitive proof that Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi have both watched at least the CNN report.
-Bruce (GayPatriot)
Please send the $100.00. I have the definitive proof given to me by unnamed, reliable sources who have often been the authority on thousands upon thousands of articles in The New York Times, the Washington Post, Time, Newsweek, Etc. Do not doubt me. Send the $100. Thank you.
If you guys had any understanding of current conditions in Iraq, you’d know why “hooray, we ARE winning” is way too premature — it’s called Sadr’s 6-month moratorium on violence. When that ends, what will you say? That Reid and Pelosi inspired the renewed violence? Further, what will you say as it becomes even clearer than now that we have sunk — by then — 4,000+ lives, 30,000+ wounded, 100,000+ Iraqis lives and a trillion dollars — all to create an Islamoterrorist state run by Shia, allied with Iran?
You guys never answer that last question, being driven only by a need to prove this disaster is not a disaster — but in the words of one of you in the archives, “a noble cause”. But, to 65-70% of us, it is a disaster and an embarrassment and if there is a diety, then surely you and your party will live with this fact the rest of your days.
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ky: So are you saying that the Mahdi Army was the cause of violence in Anbar province?
Now don’t get all bent out of shape, KY, but the Iraqis are not stupid about the Sadr/al Qaeda turmoil. Nor are they naive about the Sadr/Iran connection.
They have got al Qaeda on the skids and guess who is next?
We may still be too timid to do a .45 calibre lobotomy on Sadr, but there are surrogates within the Iraq coilition who are not. (I can name a few dozen Kurds without even trying.)
The Shiites are not led by Sadr. Sadr is the most prominent Shiite, so he is the “leader” by default.
Oh, spare me the “rest of your days” melodrama.
As to whether there is a deity or not is a screaming headline of your status of chief of buffoons. The radical Islamists have made this a religious war on their side. If you resist, it really does not matter if you are religious or not.
So, there is silly KY with his goofy shield of protection thinking that if he/she doesn’t go for the religious theme, that the radical Islamist will just call it a day in a UN sort of inclusiveness way. KY must think that radical Islamists will make an exception to gays who are indifferent to religion. That would make KY an automatic eunich in the tent of radical Islam.
You had best hope, KY, that real Americans will fight this battle for you. To the radical Islamist, you are not much more than the stray camel on a desert night.
I wondered where all the leftists were. The past months they seemed to have gotten jobs or were just not blogging. Note when they do show up how “happy” (actually infuriated) they are that WE are succeeding.
We’re winning, so it’s time for CBS-BS to expose a CYA informant.
Right after you answer my questions, dipshit.
Like a typical LeftBorg drone, KYKid is just spewing The Kostard Community-Based Reality Talking Point du Jour. To the left, the American military must never, ever, be credited for anything good that they achieve.
I think KY stands for Kos-Yenta.
[GP Ed. Note: This comment has been edited to due personal attacks and other violations of posted community terms of conduct.]
So just answer the question, so-called Patriots: what will you say as it becomes clear to even you that we have sunk 4,000+ lives, 30,000+ wounded, 100,000+ Iraqis lives and a trillion dollars — all to create an Islamoterrorist state run by Shia, allied with Iran? Amerca wants to know, because we don’t see the brilliance in that strategy. But apparently you do, so explain it to the rest of us. None of the lightweights above have so far, so who’s game?
It’s funny when a leftist anti-american pro-jihad gay fanatic calls upon his god to curse his fellow countrymen.
Luckily i dont believe in Allah, so i’m not worried.
And also, I dont have a “party”. I maintain affinity to the system of thought that led to the foundation of this nation. Thus it’s to the nation I belong , not your EUtopian-wanna be gang.
Rest assured, a war is coming. The weakness of the West is a provacation to the members of the death cult religion.
They see that now is the time that Allah promised them.
They know that useless idiots like KY exist in scificient numbers as to weaken the resolve of all the Western countries.
They know that useless idiots like KY are the sand in the foundation of the secular states.
KY, don’t you know man-made laws and governments are an offense to Allah!
KY, don’t you know that your filthy perverse behavior screams out to the heavens for Allah’s judgement upon you!
KY, don’t you know that you are even worse than the Jewish pigs and the Christian polytheists and that nothing but the hellfire is good enough for you and that the Muslims are the instruments of Allah’s judgement upon you?
KY, don’t you know that to deny the Sharia law is the same thing as denying Allah!
For all these and reason and more.. YOU and the country you live will be destroyed as it is writtten in the Koran, fight them until all religion is Allahs
so yeah… bush sucks.
First I viewed the “Death to America” video in the other post. Then I viewed the CNN guy’s intro video that allegedly (sorry Bruce) celebrates our progress in Iraq. Hate to say it, but even though one is absurdist comedy, the other doesn’t nearly different from it.
First, don’t get me started on the hackneyed “news music” and cheesy inter-cutting. Second, even while about to deliver good news, the CNN guy openly suggested that everyone connected with the war was stupid for doing it (shades of John Kerry?), and emphasized the bad as if to say “Any of you viewers who don’t share my negativity and contempt, are stupid”. He was as pompous a fool as anyone in the other sketch.
Michael Yon: the one part worth watching.
sorry, typo – “the other doesn’t nearly -seem- different from it”.
And it is good to see these pompous fools struggle with having to report good news.
Blogger, you are such a kill-joy. You edited out the fun part of #11 above, calling it a “personal attack” — when you leave others’ “personal attacks” lying everywhere (including right above #11). Well, you’se the Blogger, so I guess you can have a double standard if you want one. By the way, has anyone encouraged counseling for #12?
Further BTW: where’s the answer to the challenge? Isn’t anyone up to it?
By the way, here’s the new Left-Wing Talking Point: Casualties Are Down Because the Terrorists Are Running Out of Targets. This from Democrat Genius David Obey. Yeah, right, in a country of 27 million people, the terrorists just can’t find people to kill.
Moron.
You guys want to see something disturbing.. check out this death threat made by a Muslim in UK towards a Councilman who is opposing the construction of what would be Europe’s largest mosque
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8W4nBAFXBk
Here’s a message from someone to Iraq to people like KYKid. KY: How do you respond to this?
http://talismangate.blogspot.com/2007/11/video-report-on-al-qaedas-killing.html
Video Report on Al-Qaeda’s Killing Fields
Al-Hurra, a U.S.-funded Arabic news channel, aired a disturbing report on five newly-discovered mass graves (Arabic language footage, opens immediately) along the shores of Tharthar Lake, an area that until recently was an Al-Qaeda bastion.
Tens of bodies have been counted so far, many of them dumped in shallow pits or at the sites of training camps that used to belong to the Saddam’s Feddayeen paramilitary units and that were later appropriated by Al-Qaeda.
The gruesome images—there’s a disclaimer about their effect on viewers—show scattered bones and tattered clothes; the authorities speculate that most of the victims were kidnapped last winter since they were wearing heavy clothing. What hurts most is the presence of animal droppings around the bones suggesting that packs of wild animals made a feast of the victims.
Many Iraqis, me included, are waiting to hear anything about our “disappeared” family members and friends. Whenever such a number of decomposed bodies are found, there is a macabre hope that we’d finally have an answer.
Now that the insurgency—the war that Al-Qaeda and the enemies of the New Iraq had launched—is over, we can start dealing with the trauma of what has happened to us over the last four years, in addition to the pain and suffering of the preceding Ba’athist nightmare.
Yet there’s one thing I will never get over: how the anti-Bush crowd and the insurgents have overlapped in rhetoric and fantasy.
So when dilettantes claiming to be Iraq “experts” still obsessively adhere to the “Iraq is a disaster” line, I begin to imagine that their wounded egos—since they’re wrong, so utterly wrong—would secretly cheer whenever the bad guys strike again in Iraq, because that may generate a bad headline with a Baghdad byline thus prolonging the shelf-life of the myths they’ve constructed.
There’s been a diarrhea of “experts” who’ve weighed-in on Iraq after having picked-up a couple of primers on the topic. They are intellectual frauds, and they know it. What’s funnier is that they believe they have a firmer grasp on Iraq’s reality because they read the New York Times and news outlets of a similar ideological bent, and foolishly challenge the opinions of those who rely on their own sourcing.
These hordes of discredited journos, academics and pundits are spitting and pissing into the wind, and they are starting to look like a mess.
The neocons were supposed to be the delusional, inbred ideologues that’ve shut out the real world; it’s ironic that now this characterization so perfectly fits the “Iraq is a disaster” crowd…
posted by Nibras Kazimi نبراس الكاظمي at 9:43 AM
Oops in my last message:
Here’s a message from someone to Iraq to people like KYKid
should be
Here’s a message from someone in Iraq to people like KYKid
So just answer the question, so-called Patriots: what will you say as it becomes clear to even you that we have sunk 4,000+ lives, 30,000+ wounded, 100,000+ Iraqis lives and a trillion dollars — all to create an Islamoterrorist state run by Shia, allied with Iran?
LOL….well, for starters, KY, why would that upset you?
You said nothing as Saddam systematically starved to death nearly five times that many Iraqi children alone.
You said nothing as Saddam systematically looted that much in oil wealth from the Iraqis to buy indulgent palaces and banned weapons systems — mainly because he was kind enough to kick large chunks of it back to you, the UN, and your fellow leftist allies.
You said nothing as Saddam systematically sponsored terrorism, including paying and openly supporting Palestinian terrorists to attack Israel and Westerners, shielding and protecting al-Qaeda members in Iraq, giving treatment and protection to American-killing terrorists, and so forth.
In short, even your ludicrous worst-case Democrat Party wet dream scenario is preferable to the hell that Iraq was under Saddam.
Supposing the Kos-Yenta gets his wet dream and Iraq devolves into an Iranian-dominated Shia Terror State. First, isn’t that exactly the result the democratic left would get if the U.S. retreats in defeat from Iraq as they would have us do? (Running away so fast we’d even leave equipment behind, as Bill Richardson would have us do?) And second, if the Democrat Left is so concerned about Shia Terror-states, then why do they wet their pants and squeal “warmongering” whenever anyone suggests checking Iranian aggression?
Meanwhile, the Democrat front-runner says it’s “offensive” to compare terrorists to Nazis and other mass-murderers. I guess she doesn’t want the Democrat base to get their feelings hurt.
Ah, 18, finally an explanation of the Iraq disaster as understood and supported by The Gay Patriots: to wit (with interpretive parens)…“to defend Western civilization against Islamic Fascism”, our choices were: (1) do nothing (and blame a previous President for an attack on American soil on your watch); (2) nuke ‘em all (egads, that it would even be considered); or (3) pick an Arab dictator (but not one under the sponsorship of the Bush family) and take him out, prove our balls hang low, and watch ‘em run – straight into our arms with flowers and candy, all in the name of Democracy, by God. And, then, in the long run (call it “generational”, that’ll work) – when this little fantasy world called Gay Patriot no longer exists and none of you are around to be accountable for what you’ve supported – it’ll all work out…somehow. Do you guys really believe this stuff? If you don’t, you know what that makes you. If you do, you’re just as delusional as the little man in the White House who cooked it all up and served it to you.
Like I thought. It’s a waste of time trying to explain complex ideas to people with bumper-sticker mentalities.
21 celebrates the success of Bush’s Iraq policy before reading today’s US Military reports on # American deaths. So let him catch up on the news before scoring him.
And 23 fails to recall American sponsorship of Saddam Hussein right as the bastard was doing that killing. Didn’t worry 23 at the time, only when he needs an excuse to support a partisan POV. So, 23, how does it feel being a party to that genocide?
Oh, and there’s 24, starting to consider the likely outcome of the disaster he has supported. Perhaps there’s hope here.
Append to my #35: Apparently, it is okay for Hillary supporters to compare Tim Russert to a Nazi though. That’s what he gets for daring to ask a tough question to a Democrat.
We’re supposed to pretend that KY cares about all the “indictments” he’s made. KY is typical in his selectivity of facts… EVERYTHING is America’s fault.
Tell us KY.. what should happen in Kosovo?
And 23 fails to recall American sponsorship of Saddam Hussein right as the bastard was doing that killing. Didn’t worry 23 at the time, only when he needs an excuse to support a partisan POV.
You might want to read the article I linked — especially since, during the vast majority of the sanctions period, “American sponsorship” of anything Saddam was doing was courtesy of the Clinton administration.
Furthermore, KY, you might want to rethink that argument — especially since it points out that the Republicans who you allege “sponsored” Saddam also were the ones who ousted him, and the Democrats like yourself who supposedly “opposed” what Saddam was doing were demanding that he be left alone to continue it.
I can see why his initials are KY and not IQ.
You’re projecting from the Clinton years, Vince. Everything is NOT America’s fault. We all (as a country) have made some mistakes and some of us want to learn from them. But not the Gay Patriots, apparently, who continue to rationalize and rah-rah one Bush mistake after another. Not so with the rest of the country. Latest polls show two-thirds DISapproval of the worst President ever; 50% STRONG DISapproval — worse than Nixon at his nadir. Let that just roll around the brain a bit.
31, speaking of selective — you just ignored everything US-Saddam for 12 years PRIOR to Clinton. No intellectual shame, either, huh?
I don’t care about polls but since many do, this one is interesting
KY instead of force-feeding us the same tired talking points we been hearing since 1842 please answer my question in 30.
I repeat myself, KY: you might want to rethink that argument, especially since it points out that the Republicans who you allege “sponsored” Saddam also were the ones who ousted him, and the Democrats like yourself who supposedly “opposed” what Saddam was doing were demanding that he be left alone to continue it.
Remember that your party — Kennedy, Boxer, and Kerry in particular — OPPOSED Gulf War I. They OPPOSED military action against Saddam even for invading and conquering another country with gross human rights violations.
What this makes obvious is that your party fully supported everything Saddam did — and thus that your allegations of “sponsorship” are completely hypocritical.
I try to avoid getting sucked into discussions about things that happened 20 years ago.. things that at the time, this person didn’t care about , but he only brings them up now out of context for the purpose of trying to equate us with them… a most disgusting equivalence.
But ultimately, i avoid it because it’s pointless. We’re there and need to deal with the situation as it is now and evaulating what our next course should be taking into account everything we’ve learned thus far.
That’s not what he’s doing.. he doesn’t ultimately care about anything other than putting down his counry and most specifically, putting down Republicans and doing / saying anything he thinks will help his political causebecause that’s all he cares about , politics.
So he’s established basic competence as a 20/20 warrior, but am still waiting for him to give us his wisdom about Kosovo.
And for those of you in thrall of the view that Bush has brought the hatred of Muslims upon us, watch this.. the Muslims can’t hardly wait till they control Europe.
Video here
http://www.memritv.org/clip/en/1592.htm
Transcript:
Sheik Yousuf Al-Qaradhawi: Islam’s “Conquest of Rome” Will Save Europe from Its Subjugation to Materialism and Promiscuity
Following are excerpts from a program with Sheik Yousuf Al-Qaradhawi, which aired on Qatar TV on July 28, 2007.
Sheik Yousuf Al-Qaradhawi: “Some friends quoted a hadith that says Islam would conquer Rome. Does this mean that we will vanquish the Europeans once again?”
[…]
Al-Qaradhawi: The conquest of Rome – the conquest of Italy, and Europe – means that Islam will return to Europe once again. Must this conquest necessarily be though war? No. There is such a thing as peaceful conquest.
[…]
Al-Qaradhawi: The peaceful conquest has foundations in this religion, and therefore, I expect that Islam will conquer Europe without resorting to the sword or fighting. It will do so by means of da’wa and ideology. Europe is miserable with materialism, with the philosophy of promiscuity, and with the immoral considerations that rule the world – considerations of self-interest and self-indulgence. It is high time Europe woke up and found a way out from this. Europe will find no life saver or life boat other than Islam. Islam will save Europe from the raging materialism from which it suffers. The promiscuity, which permits men to marry men and women to marry women, is horrifying. All religions condemn this. [Islam] is capable of granting Europe and the entire West the world to come, without denying them this world. It can grant them faith without denying them science. It can grant them truth, without denying them power. It can connect them to the heavens, without tearing them away from the earth. It can grant them spirit, without denying them matter. The message of Islam is a message of global balance, and therefore, I believe the next conquest will be conducted through da’wa. But, of course, the Muslims must start acting in order to conquer this world.
Earth to KYKid:
Hey International Relations genius, Tell us what should happen in Kosovo.
Why are you not sharing your profound wisdom with us?
This is a great clip of Tammy Bruce slapping down some obnoxious Democrat operative about going to war with Iran
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4laI_PDiRo
Speaking of polls, 77% of the people don’t want illegals to have a driver’s license. They don’t seem to give a damn about that. They didn’t give a damn about public opinion when they tried with the Wet DREAM Act.
And if the liberals actually believed that the majority of the people wanted the war in Iraq to end, they would have grown some balls and cut the funding. Therefore, my educated guess would be that the liberals really don’t give a good royal damn about what the people think.
18 (There is a fourth way, but it would be nearly impossible in the contemporary political climate.)
V the K, I would be interested in hearing this fourth way.
#41 Pat: Well, Pat, the dirty little secret of terrorism is this: Terrorism works. It worked in Ireland, and it worked in Palestine, where the terrorists have consistently been rewarded for engaging in terror. One terrorist even got a Nobel Peace Prize. In order to defeat terrorism, you have to make it counter-productive and unprofitable. To do so would require going into some dark, dark places. If we go into paroxysms of outrage over three incidents of waterboarding, it’s doubtful we have the stomach to make life sufficiently miserable for terrorists and the countries that support them through the types of Black Ops that would be necessary to have an impact. There is also too much bureaucratic inertia in Washington to dismantle and rebuild the CIA, State Department, and Military bureaucracies to make this type of approach effective. You also have to get other countries to stop rewarding terrorism. (I’m looking at you, France, Germany, South Korea, Norway, Saudi Arabia, and the UN.)
So, what we’re left is is the Iraq flypaper approach. I’m all for drawing terrorists into open combat with armed, trained, American soldiers. It’s certainly preferable to leaving the terrorists free to prey on unarmed civilians. But it is very expensive in terms of lives and money.
I knew what you meant 🙂
I get increasingly pessimistic about this whole thing.. even more pessimistic than i was in the spring.
Who the hell knows the status of Pakistan’s nukes. How many months until Iran is done with its work? Why are Nork Nuclear Reactors showing up in Syria.. where else might there be some?
Why in the world is Condi Rice encouraging the Jihadis by compelling Israel to attend what might final status peace talks in Annapolis?
Islamists are on the verge of taking over Turkey if they haven’t already.
Every trend is dropping at rapid pace.
Vince, what I struggle with is, am I nuts for being concerned about the probability of terrorists obtaining nukes and using them (perhaps with Chinese or Russian assistance) in a Jericho-type scenario? Or, are people who obliviously carry on with their lives without giving a thought to the threat of Global Jihad nuts?
44, Thanks, V the K. My contention is the other scenarios you mention, including the war in Iraq and the current strategy on the war of terror is not working. So something else needs to be done. I’m not sure if your strategy calls for the “full fury of our arsenal” as Vince suggests, but if it includes killing a lot of civilians, it’s not going to fly at this point as you said. If another 9/11 occurs, that might change. Terrorists would be easier to deal with if they only hated Americans. But the seem to have more disdain for their own countrymen and neighbors, and indifferent to the losses of their lives and are apparently manipulated to be indifferent to their own lives.
I also contend that terrorism will be weakened significantly by an economic “war.” Reducing and eliminating imports of foreign oil will cut the money Islamofascists need to facilitate terrorism. I have to wonder if the current success in Iraq has a connection to $100 per barrel of oil prices.