Islamic Sharia Law In Action: American Gays & Feminists Are Silent

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1. Part of the mentality of the Leftist is that they’re prone to avoid noticing anything that our enemies do.

   This is from a blog that is discussing Ahdaminidjin’s visit to Columbia U.

   [Bollinger] even alluded to the pernicious defense mechanism of “excessive self criticism” which many leftists indulge in when he said “We at this university have not been shy to protest and challenge the failures of our own government to live by these values; and we won’t be shy in criticizing yours.” In order to feel safer in the face of the rage and hatred that they can’t explain, they make believe that it’s the “grown-ups who have to work for a living- President Bush (Bushitler), “The Multinational Corporations and Israel who are the sources of the world’s evil. It seems easier to blame them because, deep down, the lefist knows that they will not harm or scare them in any way. They are under control and subject to the same Western mores that make our society egalitarian and safe. No Columbia has never been “shy to protest and challenge the failures of our own government” why should they be? They are much safer to tweak than the murderous, hair-trigger fanatics and their beliefs which are actually the problem.

   Comment by Vince P — November 28, 2007 @ 3:40 pm - November 28, 2007

2. On a similar note:

   Earlier this year, Ayaan Hirsi Ali’s Infidel, an account of how she escaped from a world of genital mutilation and forced marriage to find asylum and the free thinking of the Enlightenment in Holland, was published. She was attacked, as feminists are, but the assault wasn’t led by the churches and Daily Mail but by Timothy Garton Ash and Ian Buruma, men who saw themselves as liberal thinkers. … Garton Ash wrote in the New York Review of Books that journalists were more interested in her beauty than her ideas. ‘If she had been short, squat, and squinting, her story and views might not be so closely attended to.’ She was an ‘Enlightenment fundamentalist’, he continued, as bigoted in her way as the Muslim Brotherhood she opposed. On this reading, there is no moral difference between those who would subjugate women, kill Jews and homosexuals, place the dictates of a seventh-century holy book above the parliaments of free peoples… and those who wouldn’t.

   Source: http://observer.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,,2216585,00.html

   Comment by V the K — November 28, 2007 @ 3:47 pm - November 28, 2007

3. How about The Oprah?

   Comment by ThatGayConservative — November 28, 2007 @ 3:48 pm - November 28, 2007

4. Everyone I know is horrified by this, as am I.

   Comment by Houndentenor — November 28, 2007 @ 4:06 pm - November 28, 2007

5. Your side hides their sense of horror quite well, HT.

   Comment by V the K — November 28, 2007 @ 4:40 pm - November 28, 2007

6. Hound,

   Have you called your local congressman or NAG organization to protest? I know I complimented Senator Brown when ge voted against scamnesty, and condemned Senator Son-of-a-vitch at the same time.

   Comment by The Livewire — November 28, 2007 @ 5:06 pm - November 28, 2007

7. actually, what is “pathetic” is your obvious lack research prior to posting. If you would have perused the HRC’s website, nowhere does it mention they are an international organization. yet more pablum being spewed and inaccurate information being touted as “truth” by waaahhhpublicans

   Comment by jgwilk — November 28, 2007 @ 5:06 pm - November 28, 2007

8. #7 translated. It’s dem der furiners, and they don’t give us money or power, so who cares how many are killed?

   Comment by The Livewire — November 28, 2007 @ 5:12 pm - November 28, 2007

9. What folks like jg dont understand is that these abuses aren’t just “over there”. These people are moving to the West, and with them comes their values.

   Here’s what’s happening in gay ole tolerant anything goes Amsterdam:

   http://covenantzone.blogspot.com/2007/11/islamophobic-dutch-gays-swing-to-right.html

   Multicultural civil war grows in Holland as “islamophobic” Dutch gays respond to homophobic muslim immigrants, in a contest making strange bedfellows out of “right-wing” politicians and Dutch libertines.

   The picture postcard of an open and tolerant Amsterdam is increasingly fading: a month does not go by without the national gay organization COC not reporting at least one, even two or three homophobic aggressions. According to police statistics, it is already up to 31 since the beginning of the year. And the incidents do not proceed any old place: “When there is violence, or more often still, provocation or intimidation, it is most of the time in the gay districts, on our streets”, explains Frank van Dalen, president of the COC.

   However, in Amsterdam as in other large cities of the Netherlands, it is the young people of arabic-muslim origin, in particular the moroccans of the second or third generation who are singled out. An ethnic dimension which weighs very heavy in the current political climate.

   [Vince: In other words, when there is anti-gay violence in the large cities of Nethlanders, the people doing the attacking are 2nd or 3rd generation Muslims]

   While incivilities, violence and confrontations between young people of foreign origin and the police make the media headlines, the crisis of Dutch identity is also playing out in the background of demographic upheavals. Indeed, according to official projections, the muslim populations should form the majority of the large cities of the country within three years. “All political discussions are centered on these questions of integration of the moroccans and of religions”, summarizes Philippe Esnault, a Genevan long living in Amsterdam.
   “All these speeches do not reassure the homosexuals, who are taking refuge in populist rhetoric in order to protect their gains.”

   Do you any clue about the violence washing all over Europe from Muslims? You have the nerve to say “waaahhhpublicans” as if your screwball politics are the center of the universe.

   So you demostrate you dont care about gays who are getting assaulted.. you belittle them. All out of politics.

   Comment by Vince P — November 28, 2007 @ 5:16 pm - November 28, 2007

10. I did a lot of letter writing about Darfur. I wrote the President, the Secretary of State, my Congressman and both Senators. Nothing happened. I don’t regret speaking out and making a public statement about what was going on, but it didn’t change anything.

    Do you really think that there is going to be US involvement in this situation?

    We have a funny kind of politics in the US these days. It’s all talk and no action. This is what the whole PC bullshit mess got us. Blah blah blah blah. Nothing changes. It’s just a big game of gotcha in terms of who spoke up first to express outrage over the latest horror in the world.

    Talk is cheap. Actions are all that count.

    So unless we are actually doing to do something–and something doesn’t necessarily mean military action…political pressure from the state department can sometimes get better and faster results that force–expressing outrage is just a lot of hot air.

    But thanks for nudging me. I will kick off some letters.

    And I will agree that I too would like to see feminists and other lefty groups stop being so effing PC and criticize people for these kinds of human rights abuses. This is wrong and everyone with any sense knows this is wrong.

    Comment by Houndentenor — November 28, 2007 @ 5:18 pm - November 28, 2007

11. Oh and lest I appear to have narrow concern only about gays… these is problem all of us Non-Muslims are facing. The Muslims dont just hate gays , they hate all of us… the gays are just easy targets.

    Everyone in this nation is going to have to stand together and fight against this. Though I have no clue if that will ever happen.

    Comment by Vince P — November 28, 2007 @ 5:19 pm - November 28, 2007

12. In response to the problem in the Netherlands…it is very real. The Dutch are waking up to the fact that looking up the other way or being polite to people with hateful views is not going to make this go away.

    Change is coming. Just like here in the US, that kind of change in public attitudes takes time. The problem is that the Europeans have allowed in large groups of immigrants who do not share their values and tradtion of liberal democracy. And they have failed to assimilate these people into their culture…something that America for the most part has been far more successful at.

    Comment by Houndentenor — November 28, 2007 @ 5:20 pm - November 28, 2007

13. Houndentenor: Thanks for the message.
    I know we disagree on a few things, but at least you’re reasonable person

    Comment by Vince P — November 28, 2007 @ 6:16 pm - November 28, 2007

14. Here’s bad news from Brussels.. capital of Belgium/European Union

    http://covenantzone.blogspot.com/2007/11/belgians-under-siege.html#links

    Does JGWilks care? Somehow I doubt he does.. everything is about him.

    Belgians under siege

    Tenants are under siege in their apartments near Brussels, unable to leave after nightfall, without risking violence and robbery.

    This news according to an investigation by French news site dhnet, reveals the extent to which post-Christian Western Europe starts to decay, and rot. How to turn things around, when…

    The inhabitants of 216 apartments of a Saint-Gilles complex are taken hostage by a gang of 41 youths who vandalize everything! (with thanks to BafWeb for their highlighting this story; my humble translation of the original french article)

    For several weeks, a neighborhood in Saint-Gilles has been considered a no-go zone. A hell on earth. A place where people no longer dare to leave their homes after a certain hour. An area where assaults, insults, incivilities or other degradations occur daily. This is Jacques Franck square, in Saint-Gilles.
    …

    “15 years ago, we didn’t have any problems. Everything has happened very gradually. And then, since last June, horror. In fact, it’s tied into the shifting of the [crime scene?]. Since the police have secured Bethlehem place, the juvenile delinquents have come all this way to the two Towers” [says the assistant director of the apartment complex.] “All this because of a gang of youths who squat in the entryways of the two buildings.” They squat, vandalize and act in such a way that the residents no longer dare leave without being accompanied by security agents. The youngest [in the gang] is 10 years old, the oldest barely 15.
    …

    An accompanying article offers an eye-witness account from “Anne”, long-time resident in the apartment building:

    …”But I want to assure you that I am scared. I can no longer go out. They [the youths] consider me a racist. If I leave the building alone, they follow me into the street. They have thrown stones at me!” Stephane, the assistant director, confirms [the story]. He adds also that since then, he has taken away all the stones that used to be found at the base of the two towers!

    In watching the French crime news videos that are all over dailymotion and youtube, one quickly gets the impression that an entire generation of teenagers living in certain regions belong behind bars. Arrests of dozens of kids at one time are not that rare. This post concerns a story out of Belgium, not France, to be sure; yet are the conditions really all that different..? These articles that I’ve translated above go on to mention that all forty of this particular gang of kids have been painstakingly identified, one by one, and that the whole rotten bunch of them will soon be arrested, and charged. These kids, however, are only one gang. Are there other gangs of forty other kids occupying the vestibules of other nearby buildings in the neighborhood? Is there anyone below the age of 20 in that community who goes against the tide, and does not belong in prison?

    You could arrest them, all of them, every single teenage thug; but then what? At some point you have to let them go; what happens then… a change of heart as they become an adult thug?
    What could possibly reduce the militant nihilism of these young kids, I ask myself as I read these stories… A hard slap to the head? That’s probably what they get at home already. Or what they serve to each other as tokens of friendship. How to change their behavior, without first changing their heart? How to steer these kids away from their savage state, converting them into productive (or at least less destructive) contributors to their community?

    Unfortunately, post-Christian Europe won’t be receptive to my hope of reducing recidivism through religious conversion, convinced as the continent’s ruling class are that their society’s worship of the secular will somehow, in some way, inspire the current generation of belgian “youths” to live as people, and not animals.

    Maybe it’s time that the atheistic left currently directing the european enterprise swallow some pride, and accept what for them, surely, must be the lesser of evils. There was a time when being poor was not an automatic trigger for being violent, rapacious, and sadistic. There was a time, not so long ago, when poor people struggled to live self-disciplined lives worth living, guided as they were by the teachings of their church. People can live with the inevitable disappointments that are part of the human experience, and remain humane, if they have an effective model to follow.

    Europe, let some committed Christian missionaries work with the youth, turn prisons into penitentiaries, so that youthful prisoners can become penitent, that is, repentant of their past sins.

    Would it make things any worse…? What have you got to lose…?
    Who’s being naive here: me, or you?

    Comment by Vince P — November 28, 2007 @ 6:19 pm - November 28, 2007

15. In response to Number 10.

    I’ve done a fair bit of letter writing too.

    Here’s a letter I wrote to my Congressman after the first Democrat house bill in the spring that they passed for the Iraq funds after months of delay

    http://home.comcast.net/~vincep312/congress.html

    And here’s one I wrote to a News TV Channel after they did a story that was inadequete.

    http://home.comcast.net/~vincep312/church.html

    Comment by Vince P — November 28, 2007 @ 6:50 pm - November 28, 2007

16. test

    Comment by ILoveCapitalism — November 28, 2007 @ 7:30 pm - November 28, 2007

17. I was reading one of my jihad blogs and I ran across this identical story… but GayPatriot left out the best quotes by Tammy Bruce (she’s awesome)..

    Radio personality Tammy Bruce, former president of the Los Angles chapter of the National Organization for Women and past member of their board of directors, criticized the organization for not taking a stand.

    “We have a duty to make a difference for women around the world,” Bruce told FOX News. “The supposed feminist establishment is refusing to take a position in this regard because they have no sensibility of what is right anymore. They’re afraid of offending people. They are bound by political correctness.”

    “The American feminist movement has not taken one stand to support the women of Iraq, the women of Afghanistan, the women of Iran,” she said. “It is the United States Marines who have been doing the feminist work by liberating women and children around the world.”

    Comment by Vince P — November 28, 2007 @ 8:15 pm - November 28, 2007

18. HRC rarely gets involved in international issues. I wish they did. Saudi Arabia, Iran, Jamaica, Russia, Nigeria, and Iraq all have serious issues with human rights, especially those that pertain to the international community.

    I’m glad to see conservatives criticizing Saudi Arabia as well as Iran.

    Comment by Tom in Houston — November 28, 2007 @ 8:29 pm - November 28, 2007

19. Have we heard from the country’s #1 feminist yet?

    If Hillary is getting tongue tied by the likes of John Edwards and Chris Dodd, just imagine how she’ll respond when Ahmadinejad and the Mullahs insist she don a burka at the ‘Mid East Intervention for Imperialist Infidels’.

    She might have a lock on the women’s vote here in the US – but last time I checked – US women weren’t getting their genitals removed by some religious psycho with a rusty pair of scissors. Try convincing the woman of Iran, Syria, Saudi Arabia, China or the third world that Mrs. Clinton feels their pain – and hopes one day to provide them with a model of our national health care; hopefully, before the honor killings, stonings and forced abortions do them all in.

    If the left wants to elect a woman President, if they truly support women’s rights, human rights, not just in America, but around the world; if they truly care for their sisters in countries where women are treated as property, to be used, sometimes literally, as ‘baby bomb factories’, and often denied the most fundamental of all human rights; Life – then they’ll have to come up with someone better than Hillary.

    From the feminist’s perspective, Hillary might have the right anatomy to get their vote; for the rest of us; commonsense and a spine are more important than a vagina.

    //rant off…

    Comment by Vera Charles — November 28, 2007 @ 10:18 pm - November 28, 2007

20. Even the biggest wanker in Britain begins to see the threat.

    Comment by V the K — November 28, 2007 @ 11:19 pm - November 28, 2007

21. Who is that?

    Comment by Vince P — November 28, 2007 @ 11:31 pm - November 28, 2007

22. #10 Glad to see you put your pen where your mouth is I need to be more proactive in making my voice heard.

    Comment by The Livewire — November 29, 2007 @ 4:52 pm - November 29, 2007

23. These people are nuts:

    http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2007/11/abujihaad-plot.html

    Ex-sailor accused of plotting to attack San Diego base hat tip Rut

    FBI witnesses say Hassan Abujihaad, awaiting trial on charges that he told extremists about U.S. ship movements, also conspired to shoot military personnel.

    By Josh Meyer, Los Angeles Times Staff Writer

    WASHINGTON — A former U.S. Navy sailor, already charged with divulging classified ship movements to British extremists linked to Al Qaeda, also discussed details of a previously undisclosed plan to attack a San Diego military base in late 2006 with at least two other men, authorities said Wednesday.

    Testifying in a federal court hearing in New Haven, Conn., FBI Special Agent David Dillon said Hassan Abujihaad, 31, of Phoenix had extensive discussions about the alleged plot with an Illinois man, Derrick Shareef, and to a lesser degree with an undercover FBI informant Shareef had introduced to him.

    According to a court motion filed by federal prosecutors that was unsealed Wednesday, Shareef and Abujihaad talked in 2003, while they were roommates in Phoenix, of attacking a military recruiting station; in 2004 proposed attacking the unspecified San Diego base with sniper fire; and in 2006 took concrete steps to pursue such an attack.

    Comment by Vince P — November 29, 2007 @ 8:49 pm - November 29, 2007

24. This is from Dhimmi Watch , commenting on a story from Netherlands on how the leaders there are clueless about why Muslims are attacking gays (cuz its their religion, dummies)

    http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/018981.php

    Amsterdam officials commissioning study to determine why Moroccans target city’s gays

    Denial: “researchers believe they felt stigmatized by society and responded by attacking people they felt were lower on the social ladder. Another working theory is that the attackers may be struggling with their own sexual identity.”

    Hmm. Good theories, fellows! But I do wonder if perhaps you considered that the Moroccan hostility toward homosexuals had anything to do with the fact that Islamic law regards homosexuality as meriting harsh punishment? Among the Sunni schools of Islamic jurisprudence (madhahib), the Hanafi school mandates a severe beating for the first offense, and the death penalty for a repeat offender. The Shafi’i school calls for 100 lashes for an unmarried homosexual, death by stoning for a married one. The Hanbali school requires stoning across the board. Muhammad, the prophet of Islam, directed his followers to “kill the one who sodomizes and the one who lets it be done to him” (‘Umdat al-Salik, p17.3).

    In many areas these injunctions are still followed. The Islamic Penal Law Against Homosexuals in Iran calls for the death penalty for sodomy and one hundred lashes for lesbianism for the first three offenses, with death for the fourth offense. Homosexuality is a capital offense not only in Iran, but also in Saudi Arabia, Sudan, Yemen and Mauritania.

    But of course, I am sure these “researchers” didn’t consider any of that. To have done so would have been “Islamophobic.”

    “Amsterdam to Study Gay Bashers,” from Spiegel (thanks to Insubria):

    With the number of homophobic attacks rising in the Dutch metropolis, Amsterdam officials are commissioning a study to determine why Moroccan men are targeting the city’s gays.
    [...]

    This month, Mayor Job Cohen commissioned the University of Amsterdam to conduct a study on the motives behind the hate crimes. Half of the crimes were committed by men of Moroccan origin and researchers believe they felt stigmatized by society and responded by attacking people they felt were lower on the social ladder. Another working theory is that the attackers may be struggling with their own sexual identity.

    Comment by Vince P — November 30, 2007 @ 11:19 am - November 30, 2007

25. “Another working theory is that the attackers may be struggling with their own sexual identity.”

    Duh, ya THINK???

    I have lots of straight friends. They could care less. Actually they are cool because I know a LOT of very hot women and am fun to hang out with. I of course don’t hit on them. (Not really interested truth be told but don’t want to insult them by saying so.) Anyway they have no problem with gay people because they don’t have any issues with their own sexuality. I have never seen a man railing about the homuhsekshuls that didn’t make me laugh. Jerry Falwell? Mary please! It’s sad really. Until it turns to violence. That’s how much some people hate themselves that they inflict violence on others. That doesn’t mean I don’t want to see them rot in prison for assault (or worse murder). But I do know what they are doing even if they can’t admit it to themselves.

    The Dutch are grappling with this now. It contradicts their idea about not criticizing other groups. This of course is a reaction to what the Germans imposed on them in the 30s and 40s. Their history is quite different from ours so some attempt at understanding their poltical history and views on human rights is helpful in understanding why they are having such a hard time dealing with Muslim minorities who do not share their very liberal views on equality for women and gays.

    Comment by Houndentenor — November 30, 2007 @ 1:18 pm - November 30, 2007

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