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	<title>Comments on: GP Mailbag:  CNN-Kerr Controversy</title>
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		<title>By: Dave_62</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2007/11/30/gp-mailbag-cnn-kerr-controversy/comment-page-1/#comment-72178</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave_62</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2007 21:14:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyway Bruce is correct, we need a straight . . . I mean gayly forward jacket and heavy sedatives.  Electroshock theory may be in order!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyway Bruce is correct, we need a straight . . . I mean gayly forward jacket and heavy sedatives.  Electroshock theory may be in order!</p>
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		<title>By: Dave_62</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2007/11/30/gp-mailbag-cnn-kerr-controversy/comment-page-1/#comment-72188</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave_62</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2007 21:05:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The two letters remind me of Dan Ackroid’s mantra:

“Jane you ignorant slut!”</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The two letters remind me of Dan Ackroid’s mantra:</p>
<p>“Jane you ignorant slut!”</p>
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		<title>By: DoDoGuRu</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2007/11/30/gp-mailbag-cnn-kerr-controversy/comment-page-1/#comment-72170</link>
		<dc:creator>DoDoGuRu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Dec 2007 15:41:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;We are electing the President of the United States, not the  President of the GOP. &lt;/i&gt;

Actually, that&#039;s exactly what we&#039;re doing here.

This guy needs to familiarize himself with how a Primary works.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>We are electing the President of the United States, not the  President of the GOP. </i></p>
<p>Actually, that&#8217;s exactly what we&#8217;re doing here.</p>
<p>This guy needs to familiarize himself with how a Primary works.</p>
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		<title>By: ILoveCapitalism</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2007/11/30/gp-mailbag-cnn-kerr-controversy/comment-page-1/#comment-72181</link>
		<dc:creator>ILoveCapitalism</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Dec 2007 04:19:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whoops.  You had me, then you lost me.  Back to the ugly MM trademark personal attacks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whoops.  You had me, then you lost me.  Back to the ugly MM trademark personal attacks.</p>
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		<title>By: Michigan-Matt</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2007/11/30/gp-mailbag-cnn-kerr-controversy/comment-page-1/#comment-72186</link>
		<dc:creator>Michigan-Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Dec 2007 03:19:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ILC, you&#039;re welcome.  And it&#039;s nice to see you not nitpick comments to death and spin them out of context like a whirling Dirvish on crystal meth.  Does this mean you&#039;ll stop channeling DeeDeeMyers&#039; spirit now?  Have a good weekend!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ILC, you&#8217;re welcome.  And it&#8217;s nice to see you not nitpick comments to death and spin them out of context like a whirling Dirvish on crystal meth.  Does this mean you&#8217;ll stop channeling DeeDeeMyers&#8217; spirit now?  Have a good weekend!</p>
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		<title>By: American Elephant</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2007/11/30/gp-mailbag-cnn-kerr-controversy/comment-page-1/#comment-72180</link>
		<dc:creator>American Elephant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2007 23:51:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...In other words, standard Democrat operating procedure</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;In other words, standard Democrat operating procedure</p>
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		<title>By: American Elephant</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2007/11/30/gp-mailbag-cnn-kerr-controversy/comment-page-1/#comment-72187</link>
		<dc:creator>American Elephant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2007 23:45:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The entire premise of the debate was that it was to address the questions and concerns of undecided republican and republican leaning independent voters. By planting their shills, and by CNN choosing the questins that they felt best mocked Republicans they insured the stated goal of the format was sabotaged. What the numerous Democrat operative plants and the hacks at CNN did was akin to vote fraud.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The entire premise of the debate was that it was to address the questions and concerns of undecided republican and republican leaning independent voters. By planting their shills, and by CNN choosing the questins that they felt best mocked Republicans they insured the stated goal of the format was sabotaged. What the numerous Democrat operative plants and the hacks at CNN did was akin to vote fraud.</p>
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		<title>By: Michigan-Matt</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2007/11/30/gp-mailbag-cnn-kerr-controversy/comment-page-1/#comment-72185</link>
		<dc:creator>Michigan-Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2007 22:55:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And on topic, I&#039;d like to note the latest spin about this CNN &quot;Dan Rather&quot; moment is that the comparison between WH managed invitations only townhall meetings and a presidential contender debate is false.

The WH managed events are intended to bring forth supportive PR opportunities for press coverage in advancing the President&#039;s agenda.  They aren&#039;t public townhall Q&amp;A sessions to hold the Prez accountable.

W didn&#039;t start these, bwt.  RR and MikeDeaver did... brilliantly, too.  And SlickWilly raised them to a snake-oil salesman huckster at the carne level of self-promotion.

What I&#039;ve liked about W&#039;s few townhall events is that it isn&#039;t about him... it&#039;s about moving his Administration&#039;s agenda forward.  And no one in the press is misses that they are staged events, carefully orchestrated and participants are vetted long before entering the venue.

The comparsion your emailer and others here raised about excusing CNN&#039;s Dan Rather Moment because the same thing happens at WH managed press events is false.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And on topic, I&#8217;d like to note the latest spin about this CNN &#8220;Dan Rather&#8221; moment is that the comparison between WH managed invitations only townhall meetings and a presidential contender debate is false.</p>
<p>The WH managed events are intended to bring forth supportive PR opportunities for press coverage in advancing the President&#8217;s agenda.  They aren&#8217;t public townhall Q&amp;A sessions to hold the Prez accountable.</p>
<p>W didn&#8217;t start these, bwt.  RR and MikeDeaver did&#8230; brilliantly, too.  And SlickWilly raised them to a snake-oil salesman huckster at the carne level of self-promotion.</p>
<p>What I&#8217;ve liked about W&#8217;s few townhall events is that it isn&#8217;t about him&#8230; it&#8217;s about moving his Administration&#8217;s agenda forward.  And no one in the press is misses that they are staged events, carefully orchestrated and participants are vetted long before entering the venue.</p>
<p>The comparsion your emailer and others here raised about excusing CNN&#8217;s Dan Rather Moment because the same thing happens at WH managed press events is false.</p>
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		<title>By: Bruce (GayPatriot)</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2007/11/30/gp-mailbag-cnn-kerr-controversy/comment-page-1/#comment-72184</link>
		<dc:creator>Bruce (GayPatriot)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2007 22:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MM-

Just for your future reference.... calling anyone involved with blogging a &quot;terrorist&quot; is simply not allowed by the Leftist Blogosphere.

:-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MM-</p>
<p>Just for your future reference&#8230;. calling anyone involved with blogging a &#8220;terrorist&#8221; is simply not allowed by the Leftist Blogosphere.<br />
 <img src='http://www.gaypatriot.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Michigan-Matt</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2007/11/30/gp-mailbag-cnn-kerr-controversy/comment-page-1/#comment-72182</link>
		<dc:creator>Michigan-Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2007 22:49:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>that should read &quot;crap you put up with...&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>that should read &#8220;crap you put up with&#8230;&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Michigan-Matt</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2007/11/30/gp-mailbag-cnn-kerr-controversy/comment-page-1/#comment-72183</link>
		<dc:creator>Michigan-Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2007 22:47:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bruce, I gather that you&#039;ve kind of, sort of &quot;had it&quot; with this commenter.  Maybe it&#039;s that he/she&#039;s provoked you repeatedly in the past or clearly demonstrated a healthy unwillingness to comprehend your position without belittling, reducing to absurdities, or spinning your posting.  Hey, I know what that&#039;s like --not from you or the other blog authors of course.  I can empathize with you on all that.  It is frustrating.  Sometimes it feels like they simply want to call names and pick apart your corollary or tertiary points and miss the big picture.

I also think that the time, energy and effort you and the others put into this blog is worthy of our respect and the collective appreciation of even those who don&#039;t agree with your &quot;ideological fatwa&quot; (I think he/she meant philosophies not fatwa) --those energies are expended in a solidly honest way to engage in debate on great issues and (maybe a little) try to redress the wrongs you see evident in the press, politics, and our community and culture.

Probably, the better choice for you in this case, though, would have been to ignore his/her email and simply delete it.  Nothing in the email is any different than is routinely commented upon in the threads... it&#039;s the same kind of non-debate cliché dragging we&#039;ve read just in the prior few threads.

Sometimes it makes sense for someone with your kind of public responsibilities to manage the frustration and ignore the guy/gal.  I hope he/she doesn&#039;t continue to irritate you because it should be clear that it&#039;s a waste of their time... but that&#039;s a tough lesson to learn.

Maybe a better course is to NOT publish those redacted and non-identifying comments because I would guess that person feels like they’ve now had the “public” or community voice they think you’ve denied him/her in the past.  So of like negotiating with terrorists… it never works out for the benefit of situation or for the long term.

One thing that IS good though is you&#039;ve allowed us to better understand the crap you put up to keep the blog community here vibrant.  I&#039;m not sure other readers here appreciate that perspective.

JMHO.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bruce, I gather that you&#8217;ve kind of, sort of &#8220;had it&#8221; with this commenter.  Maybe it&#8217;s that he/she&#8217;s provoked you repeatedly in the past or clearly demonstrated a healthy unwillingness to comprehend your position without belittling, reducing to absurdities, or spinning your posting.  Hey, I know what that&#8217;s like &#8211;not from you or the other blog authors of course.  I can empathize with you on all that.  It is frustrating.  Sometimes it feels like they simply want to call names and pick apart your corollary or tertiary points and miss the big picture.</p>
<p>I also think that the time, energy and effort you and the others put into this blog is worthy of our respect and the collective appreciation of even those who don&#8217;t agree with your &#8220;ideological fatwa&#8221; (I think he/she meant philosophies not fatwa) &#8211;those energies are expended in a solidly honest way to engage in debate on great issues and (maybe a little) try to redress the wrongs you see evident in the press, politics, and our community and culture.</p>
<p>Probably, the better choice for you in this case, though, would have been to ignore his/her email and simply delete it.  Nothing in the email is any different than is routinely commented upon in the threads&#8230; it&#8217;s the same kind of non-debate cliché dragging we&#8217;ve read just in the prior few threads.</p>
<p>Sometimes it makes sense for someone with your kind of public responsibilities to manage the frustration and ignore the guy/gal.  I hope he/she doesn&#8217;t continue to irritate you because it should be clear that it&#8217;s a waste of their time&#8230; but that&#8217;s a tough lesson to learn.</p>
<p>Maybe a better course is to NOT publish those redacted and non-identifying comments because I would guess that person feels like they’ve now had the “public” or community voice they think you’ve denied him/her in the past.  So of like negotiating with terrorists… it never works out for the benefit of situation or for the long term.</p>
<p>One thing that IS good though is you&#8217;ve allowed us to better understand the crap you put up to keep the blog community here vibrant.  I&#8217;m not sure other readers here appreciate that perspective.</p>
<p>JMHO.</p>
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		<title>By: Houndentenor</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2007/11/30/gp-mailbag-cnn-kerr-controversy/comment-page-1/#comment-72174</link>
		<dc:creator>Houndentenor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2007 21:45:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe DADT has been brought up in a Democratic debate this year with all the candidates vowing to get rid of it.  There&#039;s not much to debate when all the candidates agree on an issue and no need to revisit it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe DADT has been brought up in a Democratic debate this year with all the candidates vowing to get rid of it.  There&#8217;s not much to debate when all the candidates agree on an issue and no need to revisit it.</p>
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		<title>By: ILoveCapitalism</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2007/11/30/gp-mailbag-cnn-kerr-controversy/comment-page-1/#comment-72173</link>
		<dc:creator>ILoveCapitalism</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2007 21:27:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm, G.. r.. y...... ?  :-)

And Bruce, good answer.  The simple reality is this: The Democratic operatives misrepresented themselves, and CNN allowed them to.  That was plain sleazy.  Yes, the questions were fine.  Yes, it&#039;s always good to see politicians asked tough questions.  Now, to even things out, can CNN please have Republicans with some tough, &quot;strongly premised&quot; or biased questions in the next Democrats&#039; debate?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm, G.. r.. y&#8230;&#8230; ?  <img src='http://www.gaypatriot.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>And Bruce, good answer.  The simple reality is this: The Democratic operatives misrepresented themselves, and CNN allowed them to.  That was plain sleazy.  Yes, the questions were fine.  Yes, it&#8217;s always good to see politicians asked tough questions.  Now, to even things out, can CNN please have Republicans with some tough, &#8220;strongly premised&#8221; or biased questions in the next Democrats&#8217; debate?</p>
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		<title>By: V the K</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2007/11/30/gp-mailbag-cnn-kerr-controversy/comment-page-1/#comment-72169</link>
		<dc:creator>V the K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2007 21:02:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course, Democrats also (childishly? cowardishly?) refuse to debate on FoxNews, which is also a form of whining.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course, Democrats also (childishly? cowardishly?) refuse to debate on FoxNews, which is also a form of whining.</p>
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		<title>By: V the K</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2007/11/30/gp-mailbag-cnn-kerr-controversy/comment-page-1/#comment-72177</link>
		<dc:creator>V the K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2007 20:57:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Democrats don&#039;t whine about debate questions? Someone should inform Hillary of that..

(I know, Ian just has to toe the party line that Democrats are perfect.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Democrats don&#8217;t whine about debate questions? Someone should inform Hillary of that..</p>
<p>(I know, Ian just has to toe the party line that Democrats are perfect.)</p>
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		<title>By: Ian S</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2007/11/30/gp-mailbag-cnn-kerr-controversy/comment-page-1/#comment-72176</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2007 20:56:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#2: I&#039;ll bet there were Reublicks asking questions at the Dem debate - we&#039;re just not so whiny about such things. I guess the Republicks got too used to the Bushies preventing anyone but true believers from attending Bush events.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#2: I&#8217;ll bet there were Reublicks asking questions at the Dem debate &#8211; we&#8217;re just not so whiny about such things. I guess the Republicks got too used to the Bushies preventing anyone but true believers from attending Bush events.</p>
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		<title>By: Ian S</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2007/11/30/gp-mailbag-cnn-kerr-controversy/comment-page-1/#comment-72172</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2007 20:53:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#3:&lt;blockquote&gt;DADT wasn’t brought up at the Democrat “debate,”&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Actually, it was brought up at at least one Dem debate if not the You Tube one. Furthermore, same-sex marriage was brought up at the Dem You Tube debate but oddly missing from the Republick You Tube debate.</description>
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<blockquote>DADT wasn’t brought up at the Democrat “debate,”</p></blockquote>
<p>Actually, it was brought up at at least one Dem debate if not the You Tube one. Furthermore, same-sex marriage was brought up at the Dem You Tube debate but oddly missing from the Republick You Tube debate.</p>
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		<title>By: North Dallas Thirty</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2007/11/30/gp-mailbag-cnn-kerr-controversy/comment-page-1/#comment-72175</link>
		<dc:creator>North Dallas Thirty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2007 20:44:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Isn&#039;t that odd, rightwingprof? You&#039;d think the Democrats would want to show off their support for its repeal.

Maybe it doesn&#039;t jibe well with their pandering to homophobes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isn&#8217;t that odd, rightwingprof? You&#8217;d think the Democrats would want to show off their support for its repeal.</p>
<p>Maybe it doesn&#8217;t jibe well with their pandering to homophobes.</p>
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		<title>By: rightwingprof</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2007/11/30/gp-mailbag-cnn-kerr-controversy/comment-page-1/#comment-72168</link>
		<dc:creator>rightwingprof</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2007 20:25:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting that DADT wasn&#039;t brought up at the Democrat &quot;debate,&quot; considering that it was a Democrat policy, signed by a Democrat President.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting that DADT wasn&#8217;t brought up at the Democrat &#8220;debate,&#8221; considering that it was a Democrat policy, signed by a Democrat President.</p>
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		<title>By: Houndentenor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Houndentenor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2007 20:25:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with you that CNN screwed up on this one.  By allowing Democrats to ask questions they made the story about the questioners and not about the answers to the questions.  It&#039;s hard enough to have a substantive debate about actual issues without all this BS.  I do think it&#039;s being made into a bigger deal than it was but I agree that it ought not to have happened.  Surely there are registered Republicans who served in the armed forces who could ask the DADT question.  Some of them probably submitted their question and weren&#039;t chosen.   Instead we have another round of personality politics instead of issues.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with you that CNN screwed up on this one.  By allowing Democrats to ask questions they made the story about the questioners and not about the answers to the questions.  It&#8217;s hard enough to have a substantive debate about actual issues without all this BS.  I do think it&#8217;s being made into a bigger deal than it was but I agree that it ought not to have happened.  Surely there are registered Republicans who served in the armed forces who could ask the DADT question.  Some of them probably submitted their question and weren&#8217;t chosen.   Instead we have another round of personality politics instead of issues.</p>
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