Comments on: Merry Christmas from a Jewish GayPatriot http://www.gaypatriot.net/2007/12/23/merry-christmas-from-a-jewish-gaypatriot/ The Internet home for American gay conservatives. Tue, 06 Jan 2009 21:28:29 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.1 By: Vince P http://www.gaypatriot.net/2007/12/23/merry-christmas-from-a-jewish-gaypatriot/#comment-37783 Vince P Sat, 29 Dec 2007 22:22:34 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/?p=1190#comment-37783 on that thread i found a link that went back to 2005 and the mark foley stuf and something about gp being outed.. wow that wass pretty interesting. i wasn't aware of all that history on that thread i found a link that went back to 2005 and the mark foley stuf and something about gp being outed.. wow that wass pretty interesting. i wasn’t aware of all that history

]]> By: ILoveCapitalism http://www.gaypatriot.net/2007/12/23/merry-christmas-from-a-jewish-gaypatriot/#comment-37803 ILoveCapitalism Sat, 29 Dec 2007 19:01:10 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/?p=1190#comment-37803 Well Vince, we recently had a sanctimonious Canadian <a href="http://gaypatriot.net/2007/12/05/on-false-assumptions-of-conservative-divas-gay-conservatives#comment-860284" rel="nofollow">with no integrity, playing sockpuppets</a>... is that worse? :-) Well Vince, we recently had a sanctimonious Canadian with no integrity, playing sockpuppets… is that worse? :-)

]]> By: Vince P http://www.gaypatriot.net/2007/12/23/merry-christmas-from-a-jewish-gaypatriot/#comment-37802 Vince P Fri, 28 Dec 2007 22:43:15 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/?p=1190#comment-37802 Is there anything more insufferable than a sanctimonious Canadian? Is there anything more insufferable than a sanctimonious Canadian?

]]> By: ILoveCapitalism http://www.gaypatriot.net/2007/12/23/merry-christmas-from-a-jewish-gaypatriot/#comment-37790 ILoveCapitalism Fri, 28 Dec 2007 21:54:49 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/?p=1190#comment-37790 <blockquote>While I do consider the U.S. to still be a dangerous place for gays and lesbians to live given the current government...</blockquote>You consider wrong. Sounds like you're a Canadian who harbors a few prejudices / stereotypes.

While I do consider the U.S. to still be a dangerous place for gays and lesbians to live given the current government…

You consider wrong.

Sounds like you’re a Canadian who harbors a few prejudices / stereotypes.

]]> By: ILoveCapitalism http://www.gaypatriot.net/2007/12/23/merry-christmas-from-a-jewish-gaypatriot/#comment-37801 ILoveCapitalism Fri, 28 Dec 2007 19:20:19 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/?p=1190#comment-37801 Back on topic - From Democracy Project: <a href="http://www.democracy-project.com/archives/003584.html" rel="nofollow">Favorite Christmas Songs Came from Jews</a>. Back on topic - From Democracy Project: Favorite Christmas Songs Came from Jews.

]]> By: Sean A http://www.gaypatriot.net/2007/12/23/merry-christmas-from-a-jewish-gaypatriot/#comment-37789 Sean A Fri, 28 Dec 2007 04:00:49 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/?p=1190#comment-37789 17: "For those who aren’t up to speed, Canada is STILL a Christian country! And one of the few who actually recognize gay marriage." Yes, and now we all know just how much Canadian gays cherish the new "right" they have obtained and what an egregious deprivation they were suffering before: http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2007/jun/07062710.html 17: “For those who aren’t up to speed, Canada is STILL a Christian country! And one of the few who actually recognize gay marriage.”

Yes, and now we all know just how much Canadian gays cherish the new “right” they have obtained and what an egregious deprivation they were suffering before:

http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2007/jun/07062710.html

]]> By: Gay Canadiand Christian http://www.gaypatriot.net/2007/12/23/merry-christmas-from-a-jewish-gaypatriot/#comment-37791 Gay Canadiand Christian Thu, 27 Dec 2007 23:42:25 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/?p=1190#comment-37791 <blockquote>I would much rather live in a Christian country than a secular “scientific” atheist one (N Korea, Soviet Union, Cuba, EU, Canada).</blockquote> For those who aren't up to speed, Canada is STILL a Christian country! And one of the few who actually recognize gay marriage. As a Canadian, I take offense at any comment that Canada is anymore secularize than the U.S. If anything, Canada is more Christian, showing more love than the U.S. toward ALL people. But that is a debate for another time, perhaps. While I do consider the U.S. to still be a dangerous place for gays and lesbians to live given the current government, I do think that will change and I would choose to move there should my lover decide to stay there. Merry Christmas to all!

I would much rather live in a Christian country than a secular “scientific” atheist one (N Korea, Soviet Union, Cuba, EU, Canada).

For those who aren’t up to speed, Canada is STILL a Christian country! And one of the few who actually recognize gay marriage.

As a Canadian, I take offense at any comment that Canada is anymore secularize than the U.S. If anything, Canada is more Christian, showing more love than the U.S. toward ALL people. But that is a debate for another time, perhaps.

While I do consider the U.S. to still be a dangerous place for gays and lesbians to live given the current government, I do think that will change and I would choose to move there should my lover decide to stay there.

Merry Christmas to all!

]]> By: Vince P http://www.gaypatriot.net/2007/12/23/merry-christmas-from-a-jewish-gaypatriot/#comment-37792 Vince P Tue, 25 Dec 2007 21:24:17 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/?p=1190#comment-37792 Sean A.. i agree with you.. telling the Thought Police to shut up removes their power. The Left thinks it can brandish it's smear labels and then everyone will automatically shut up.. only our own failure to stand up for ouselves allows them that power. Besides. I dont see the logic in forcing people to remain silent about non-accepted-views... why would you not want that person known.. in other words, would you prefer to pretend he's someone he's not.. harboring these thought but never expresing them? that cant be heathy for anyone. I don't like Arabs either. In the Middle East Christian Arabs are about the same culturally as Muslim Arabs because the Christian is dhimmi in the Middle East.. he is saturatated in the Jew Hate that overflows from the Muslim world.. you can't be a Christian in the Middle East and tell a Muslim not to hate th eJEw.. instead the Christians gave up a long time ago and accepted the Muslim viewpoint. You want to see this played out.. view this video from the late 1980s.. in it is the story of the Christians in the West Bank. The story is how the Christians are joining with the Muslisms for the first intifada against Israel. The story looks at the past in Lebanon when some of the Christians decided to fight alongside their Muslim cohorts against the Israel invasion. Because the Christians were raised in the same Jew-hatred the Mulsims teach, the Christians thought to fight against Israel would buy their favor with the Muslims.. once Israel left the Muslims killed hte Christians. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxD_kgIqp3Q Sean A.. i agree with you.. telling the Thought Police to shut up removes their power. The Left thinks it can brandish it’s smear labels and then everyone will automatically shut up.. only our own failure to stand up for ouselves allows them that power.

Besides. I dont see the logic in forcing people to remain silent about non-accepted-views… why would you not want that person known.. in other words, would you prefer to pretend he’s someone he’s not.. harboring these thought but never expresing them? that cant be heathy for anyone.

I don’t like Arabs either. In the Middle East Christian Arabs are about the same culturally as Muslim Arabs because the Christian is dhimmi in the Middle East.. he is saturatated in the Jew Hate that overflows from the Muslim world.. you can’t be a Christian in the Middle East and tell a Muslim not to hate th eJEw.. instead the Christians gave up a long time ago and accepted the Muslim viewpoint.

You want to see this played out.. view this video from the late 1980s.. in it is the story of the Christians in the West Bank. The story is how the Christians are joining with the Muslisms for the first intifada against Israel.

The story looks at the past in Lebanon when some of the Christians decided to fight alongside their Muslim cohorts against the Israel invasion.

Because the Christians were raised in the same Jew-hatred the Mulsims teach, the Christians thought to fight against Israel would buy their favor with the Muslims.. once Israel left the Muslims killed hte Christians.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxD_kgIqp3Q

]]> By: Sean A http://www.gaypatriot.net/2007/12/23/merry-christmas-from-a-jewish-gaypatriot/#comment-37800 Sean A Tue, 25 Dec 2007 08:01:51 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/?p=1190#comment-37800 Good for you, Leah! Say exactly what you want and don't let people like Chase shame you into editing the point you are trying to express into sanitized, benign statements that offend no one and impart nothing. He has pledged full, blind allegiance to his own identity box crafted by the Left and his indoctrination includes a misguided belief that he suddenly has the authority to act as a thought cop. I can't believe the nerve some people have, telling others what they can and can't say. The only thing more annoying than the politically correct leftists who think their own "enlightenment" entitles them to censor others, is the politically correct leftists who somehow still haven't figured out that conservatives started standing up to the Thought Police about 10 years ago and telling them to cram it. Turns out, they' re not that scary. Well done, and Merry Christmas. Good for you, Leah! Say exactly what you want and don’t let people like Chase shame you into editing the point you are trying to express into sanitized, benign statements that offend no one and impart nothing. He has pledged full, blind allegiance to his own identity box crafted by the Left and his indoctrination includes a misguided belief that he suddenly has the authority to act as a thought cop. I can’t believe the nerve some people have, telling others what they can and can’t say.

The only thing more annoying than the politically correct leftists who think their own “enlightenment” entitles them to censor others, is the politically correct leftists who somehow still haven’t figured out that conservatives started standing up to the Thought Police about 10 years ago and telling them to cram it. Turns out, they’ re not that scary.

Well done, and Merry Christmas.

]]> By: Leah http://www.gaypatriot.net/2007/12/23/merry-christmas-from-a-jewish-gaypatriot/#comment-37788 Leah Mon, 24 Dec 2007 22:33:52 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/?p=1190#comment-37788 Vince, I'm glad you had a wonderful time in Israel. America and Israel are two unique countries in this world, in that they open their doors and arms to strangers. Chase, call me a scrouge if you like. I've lived around Arabs, I don't like them. Yes I am open minded enough to be willing to accept the individual as a good person if they prove themselves worthy of it. But sorry, on the whole, as a people the Arabs have done a pretty miserable job of respecting any kind of human rights. They murder their own women and daughters and consider it a matter of pride. Let's not get into what they do to Gays. And they wouldn't be happy with me wishing them a Merry Christmas. As to their being Arab Christians, they are dwindling in numbers. 40 years ago Bethlehem was a majority Christian city, today - maybe 10%. That wasn't the fault of the Israelis, that is the fault of their muslim neighbors who see their Christianity as more of a problem than their being Arab. But to you I'm more than happy to wish a Merry Chirstmas! Vince, I’m glad you had a wonderful time in Israel. America and Israel are two unique countries in this world, in that they open their doors and arms to strangers.
Chase, call me a scrouge if you like. I’ve lived around Arabs, I don’t like them. Yes I am open minded enough to be willing to accept the individual as a good person if they prove themselves worthy of it.
But sorry, on the whole, as a people the Arabs have done a pretty miserable job of respecting any kind of human rights. They murder their own women and daughters and consider it a matter of pride. Let’s not get into what they do to Gays.
And they wouldn’t be happy with me wishing them a Merry Christmas. As to their being Arab Christians, they are dwindling in numbers. 40 years ago Bethlehem was a majority Christian city, today - maybe 10%. That wasn’t the fault of the Israelis, that is the fault of their muslim neighbors who see their Christianity as more of a problem than their being Arab.
But to you I’m more than happy to wish a Merry Chirstmas!

]]> By: LesbianNeoCon http://www.gaypatriot.net/2007/12/23/merry-christmas-from-a-jewish-gaypatriot/#comment-37799 LesbianNeoCon Mon, 24 Dec 2007 16:53:08 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/?p=1190#comment-37799 #7...Leah, I am also a Jew, and "ditto" your post!! Well, accept for the Muslim part. Sorry, can't get past that. Merry Christmas to all!! #7…Leah, I am also a Jew, and “ditto” your post!! Well, accept for the Muslim part. Sorry, can’t get past that.

Merry Christmas to all!!

]]> By: Roberto http://www.gaypatriot.net/2007/12/23/merry-christmas-from-a-jewish-gaypatriot/#comment-37787 Roberto Mon, 24 Dec 2007 15:31:17 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/?p=1190#comment-37787 In Relgious Science or Science of Mind we respect all relgions. I still have a problem with Islam and hope that the day will come when they will renounce violence and the imams will apologize for the atrocities commited against Jews, Christians,gays, lesbians,and women.in the name of Allah and for the desecration of the Church, the Bible, and Missals they used for toilet paper when they occupied the church in Jerusalem. When occured, I always greeted my co-workers who were Jewish with Happy Chanukah. In common with Christianity it is a feast of light, as the eternal truth illuminates the darkness of our ignorance just as the days begin to get longer the sun dissapates the darkness of night. Merry Christmas to all and to all a good night, In Relgious Science or Science of Mind we respect all relgions. I still have a problem with Islam and hope that the day will come when they will renounce violence and the imams will apologize for the atrocities commited against Jews, Christians,gays, lesbians,and women.in the name of Allah and for the desecration of the Church, the Bible, and Missals they used for toilet paper when they occupied the church in Jerusalem.

When occured, I always greeted my co-workers who were Jewish with Happy Chanukah. In common with Christianity it is a feast of light, as the eternal truth illuminates the darkness of our ignorance just as the days begin to get longer the sun dissapates the darkness of night.

Merry Christmas to all and to all a good night,

]]> By: Peter Hughes http://www.gaypatriot.net/2007/12/23/merry-christmas-from-a-jewish-gaypatriot/#comment-37805 Peter Hughes Mon, 24 Dec 2007 03:20:33 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/?p=1190#comment-37805 #10 - Chaser, to a point you are correct: Arabs were some of the first Christians, along with Greeks and converted Jews. However, I believe the commenter was talking about "militant Islamists" and those who are supposedly moderate but silent when the militants are out there butchering those who "insult Islam." (How do you "insult" a religion worse than Christianity, like dunking a crucifix in urine? But I digress.) My Greek Orthodox ancestors once said: "Better to live under the crescent than the pontiff." However, they changed their tune from 1453 until 1821, after Greece was freed from Muslim rule. Yes, we are all God's children. However, I would hope that Arabs live the way Jews and Christians do - to do unto others as they would have us do unto them. There are good Arabs, yes - but they are vastly outnumbered by the vocal majority who want death to all non-Islamists. Regards, Peter H. #10 - Chaser, to a point you are correct: Arabs were some of the first Christians, along with Greeks and converted Jews. However, I believe the commenter was talking about “militant Islamists” and those who are supposedly moderate but silent when the militants are out there butchering those who “insult Islam.” (How do you “insult” a religion worse than Christianity, like dunking a crucifix in urine? But I digress.)

My Greek Orthodox ancestors once said: “Better to live under the crescent than the pontiff.” However, they changed their tune from 1453 until 1821, after Greece was freed from Muslim rule.

Yes, we are all God’s children. However, I would hope that Arabs live the way Jews and Christians do - to do unto others as they would have us do unto them. There are good Arabs, yes - but they are vastly outnumbered by the vocal majority who want death to all non-Islamists.

Regards,
Peter H.

]]> By: Chase http://www.gaypatriot.net/2007/12/23/merry-christmas-from-a-jewish-gaypatriot/#comment-37804 Chase Mon, 24 Dec 2007 03:04:32 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/?p=1190#comment-37804 <blockquote cite="">I don’t like Arabs</blockquote> That's being a bit of a Scrooge. You shouldn't say that ever, but especially around Christmas. They are God's children too.

I don’t like Arabs

That’s being a bit of a Scrooge. You shouldn’t say that ever, but especially around Christmas. They are God’s children too.

]]> By: Chase http://www.gaypatriot.net/2007/12/23/merry-christmas-from-a-jewish-gaypatriot/#comment-37795 Chase Mon, 24 Dec 2007 03:00:12 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/?p=1190#comment-37795 Merry Christmas to all! Merry Christmas to all!

]]> By: Vince P http://www.gaypatriot.net/2007/12/23/merry-christmas-from-a-jewish-gaypatriot/#comment-37786 Vince P Mon, 24 Dec 2007 00:35:19 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/?p=1190#comment-37786 Leah: I was in Israel once (I'm a Christian) and I was invited to shabbot dinner in Jerusalem at a university.. that was a really cool experience.. it was great to see how much affection everyone had for one another. Leah: I was in Israel once (I’m a Christian) and I was invited to shabbot dinner in Jerusalem at a university.. that was a really cool experience.. it was great to see how much affection everyone had for one another.

]]> By: Leah http://www.gaypatriot.net/2007/12/23/merry-christmas-from-a-jewish-gaypatriot/#comment-37785 Leah Sun, 23 Dec 2007 22:52:24 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/?p=1190#comment-37785 As a Jew, I love wishing people Merry Christmas! And I'm thrilled to be included in a wonderful Christmas dinner with all the trimmings with friends. I adore all the lights, the Christmas tree, and if the music didn't start around Halloween - that too. I have the pleasure of knowing some moderate Muslims (Iranians), the way they follow their religion is not much different than the way most American Jews and Christians do. So although I don't like Arabs, and am not thrilled with a lot of Islam these days, I'm not willing to write it all off. I love America, there is a true feeling of sharing different traditions with one another. Merry Christmas to All!! As a Jew, I love wishing people Merry Christmas! And I’m thrilled to be included in a wonderful Christmas dinner with all the trimmings with friends.
I adore all the lights, the Christmas tree, and if the music didn’t start around Halloween - that too.

I have the pleasure of knowing some moderate Muslims (Iranians), the way they follow their religion is not much different than the way most American Jews and Christians do. So although I don’t like Arabs, and am not thrilled with a lot of Islam these days, I’m not willing to write it all off.

I love America, there is a true feeling of sharing different traditions with one another.

Merry Christmas to All!!

]]> By: VinceTN http://www.gaypatriot.net/2007/12/23/merry-christmas-from-a-jewish-gaypatriot/#comment-37798 VinceTN Sun, 23 Dec 2007 22:38:34 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/?p=1190#comment-37798 As a militant atheist who spent his high school years despising religion and Christianity in particular, I find these middle-aged secularists making the same arrogant (and ignorant) arguments against religion embarassing. At least I grew up. What sad life journey are they on? I still don't believe in God but I would much rather live in a Christian country than a secular "scientific" atheist one (N Korea, Soviet Union, Cuba, EU, Canada). I'm very happy celebrating Christmas/Yule/Hannakah with my diverse employees here in the medical field. As a militant atheist who spent his high school years despising religion and Christianity in particular, I find these middle-aged secularists making the same arrogant (and ignorant) arguments against religion embarassing. At least I grew up. What sad life journey are they on? I still don’t believe in God but I would much rather live in a Christian country than a secular “scientific” atheist one (N Korea, Soviet Union, Cuba, EU, Canada).

I’m very happy celebrating Christmas/Yule/Hannakah with my diverse employees here in the medical field.

]]> By: Vince P http://www.gaypatriot.net/2007/12/23/merry-christmas-from-a-jewish-gaypatriot/#comment-37797 Vince P Sun, 23 Dec 2007 21:38:39 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/?p=1190#comment-37797 Peter: want to see something creepy? View the first video on my home page.. the Koran http://home.comcast.net/~vincep312/ Peter: want to see something creepy? View the first video on my home page.. the Koran

http://home.comcast.net/~vincep312/

]]> By: Peter Hughes http://www.gaypatriot.net/2007/12/23/merry-christmas-from-a-jewish-gaypatriot/#comment-37796 Peter Hughes Sun, 23 Dec 2007 21:27:29 +0000 http://www.gaypatriot.net/?p=1190#comment-37796 #2 Mega dittoes to that, Vince & Pam. Regards, Peter H. #2 Mega dittoes to that, Vince & Pam.

Regards,
Peter H.

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