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Tsunami Tuesday — ELECTION NIGHT LIVE-BLOGGING

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Welcome to the tumble on Super Duper Tsunami Tuesday!   Feel free to contribute all stories and intel from the states voting across the USA today.

And stay tuned to GayPatriot tonight for live-blogging of Election Day results.

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8PM Eastern:  So far we have Obama taking Georgia, and a tight three-way tie for Huckabee-McCain & Romney in the Peach State.   That isn’t good news for Romney.

More polls closing in mere minutes……..

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So at 8:30PM Eastern, here’s where we are:

The suspected states — Arkansas for Clinton/Huckabee and Massachusetts for Romney — fell into line.

Too close to call:  NJ (D) and Georgia (R) are the two biggies that are nail-biters.

The two other headlines I’m imaging at this moment:  Obama having a good night; Huckabee rising from the dead again.

Stay tuned for two interesting ones at 9PM:  Arizona and New York.

8:40 PM – I noticed Jim Geraghty mentioned this at The Campaign Spot… and it struck me too as I listened to Karl Rove on FOX earlier.

Karl Rove, debuting on Fox News, says that McCain should have watched the Super Bowl in a military community in Georgia, trying to get that extra, pointing out the winner of Georgia gets a bonus of 30 delegates. (Heh. Some of us pointed that out earlier in the night.)

It sounds like good advice. Clearly the trip to Massachusetts did nothing for McCain.

Rove also noted that based on what he was seeing in Georgia…. Obama was having a good night across all sectors of the Democratic voters today.

8:47 PM – Bill Hemmer on FOX is noting that McCain is benefiting from the “winner take all” states of NJ, NY & CT that was originally intended to help Rudy Giuliani.   NJ is still too close to call for the Dems… not comforting for Ms. Hillary.

8:50PM – CNN’s Bill Schneider has this mind-blowing information:

Another surprising finding in the national exit polls: John McCain — who has made the war in Iraq and the need for continued U.S. involvement there a centerpiece of his campaign — is actually winning among Republicans who are against the war. Among those Republicans who disapprove of the war, nearly half voted for McCain, while only a quarter voted for Mitt Romney — even though McCain spent the past few weeks trying to portray Romney as more liberal on the war.

Moderates — those most likely to disapprove of Iraq – seem to simply prefer McCain, even when they don’t square on the issues.

Arghhhhhhhhh.

8:58PM – I just noticed that Massachusetts was called by FOX for Clinton.  I guess Teddy Kennedy’s support didn’t help.  CNN hasn’t called MA yet.

9:00PM EASTERN – New York has been called for Clinton (FOX & CNN), Arizona is too close to call.  Looks like there is some home-grown anger at Senator McCain for his position on granting amnesty to illegal aliens.

 9:05PM – Delaware has been called for Obama…. that’s interesting!  Not exactly a bastion of African-American voters there.  CORRECTION:  Juan Williams says actually Delaware has the 8th largest population of African-Americans of all of the states.

Still, Connecticut and NJ are too close to call.   Not good for Clinton.

9:15PM EASTERN – I’m taking a break to watch American Idol which was “DVR’d” during the 8pm hour.   And I learned something already:  Seacrest is from Atlanta?!?

9:25PM – New Jersey goes to Clinton.  Looks like her Northeast/Blue Strategy is working for her a bit…..

9:28PM – Hold onto your hats!  Are we in for a hellish night of exit poll disasters?  Jim Geraghty at National Review is hinting so…. and I note the CNN has NOT called NJ or Massachusetts for Clinton yet…. but FOX has.

10:00PM EASTERN:  Well, it looks as though the John McCain train isn’t being stopped tonight…. and perhaps even helped by Mike Huckabee.   Some more states called since I last checked in: NJ for Clinton, UT for Romney (shocking!), Kansas for Obama (am I the only one surprised by that?), and Oklahoma for McCain.

And now North Dakota goes to Obama….

10:10PM – It looks like Georgia, Arizona, Alabama & Tennessee are still in play on the Republican side.  And it appears that Mike Huckabee is doing MUCH better than expected tonight.  I think half the reason why some of the Southern states haven’t been called is because Huckabee is leading….

10:13PM – Based on actual vote numbers coming in from Georgia… I think Mike Huckabee is going to pull an upset there.  He is winning by 23,000 votes with 73% reporting.  I certainly can’t see Romney catching up….

10:28PM – First real upset of the night?  Connecticut for Obama.

10:30PM EASTERN – Um… where are the actual votes in Arizona???

10:32PM – Yet another win for Huckabee tonight:  Alabama (CNN projects).  And North Dakota goes to Romney (FOX).

For the Democrats…. Minnesota goes to Obama.   He is doing very well tonight in the Midwest and the South.   Clinton’s Northeast Strategy holds, except for Connecticut.

10:49PM – Arizona finally goes to McCain.   DANG IT!

11:00PM – California polls close…. and Hillary is giving a speech which sounds like she is channeling Ronald Reagan.  Creepy.

11:25PM – Well, gang…. I’m hanging it up.  California is too close to call for the Dems and GOP.  Based on exit poll results CNN was just disclosing related to demographic breakdown…… my hunch is McCain will win California, and perhaps Obama (but it is veryyyyyyy tight).

G’nite…. and good luck!

-Bruce (GayPatriot)

Comments

  3. Aslong as Obama stays close to Clinton in delegates, which seems very likely with our primary system of proportionality, I would say thats a win for him. The longer the race goes on the better it is for him, he is winning over voters and democratic base is going his way it looks. He has also outraised her by quit a bit, like 3 to one in this part.

    So Clinton I think is done, which as much as you all dislike her, makes me unhappy since I dislike Obama.

  4. I think we should all be thinking about who these people might choose for their running mates. In the McCain case and Obama especially, remember if someone becomes unable to perform their duties as President, their VP takes over.
    In my mind, the deciding factor is going to be who the VPS are.

  7. I can not see St. Hilarybeast allowing Obama on the ticket, especially if it’ stight at the convention; she’ll pick a tame Clinton-42 lap-dog like Bill Richardson.

    And as I read the New York papers and see the personalities, Giuiliani’s a no-starter and not interested in being McCain’s Veep. I’ve read good press on Gov. Pawlenty of Minnesota…and the convention’s in the Twin Cities this year, so he’s the “official host”.

    If Romney’s on the ticket in either slot, I’ll vote for Obama….

  11. John (#8) — I’m with you on Huck as VP, too. McCain & Huck would be a complete joke.

    As for the podcast…. I’ve had a nasty cold… and I also wanted to enjoy sitting in front of the TV and watching instead of talking!

  14. It does seem suspiciously like McCain’s already picked the Huckster.

    #12
    Haven’t tried the cold stuff as I haven’t had a cold in I don’t know how many years. However, the cough spray is awesome. I wake up coughing now and then with allergies and the Zicam cough spray works before I put the bottle down.

    No, it doesn’t taste much better than average cough medicines, but I can suffer through.

  17. Here’s my observations for what theyre worth. First of all, it must be said, since both Hillary and Obama are equally and utterly unqualified, half the Democrat party is obviously racist and the other half blatant misogynists.

    #3. I’d think the longer and tighter the race between Obama and Clinton, the better for Republicans. The longer they fight, the more damage they do to eachother, and the longer they fight, the more money they use up.

    #8. Nanny Huckabee is a sleazy, slimy, corrupt, mean-spirited, big-government, rat-bastard, staying in the race only as a spoiler to Romney. I don’t trust the Huckster as far as I can spit (neither do a lot of conservatives who have known and worked with him), and I have never experienced a ticket that would pain me more to vote for….

    However I will vote for the Republican ticket, even if it is McCain and Huckasleeze, and I strongly suggest everyone hold their noses, get a little drunk if necessary and do the same. Elections are not popularity contests we hold every four years — they have very real, very nation-changing consequences.

    If Democrats win the presidency, and hold onto or increase their majorities in congress (as seems likely):

    1. they WILL nationalize and destroy the healthcare industry. And can anyone point out an entitlement program that once started was ever ended? There will be no going back.
    2. they WILL pull out of Iraq.
    3. they WILL appoint anywhere from 2 to 5 Ruth Bader Ginsburgs to the SCOTUS and pack the appelate courts to bursting with same.
    4. they WILL extend full constitutional protection to terrorists.
    5. they WILL shrink the military and do estraordinary damage to it and the intelligence services and homeland security.
    6. they WILL pass amnesty
    7. they WILL reinstate the fairness doctrine to silence dissent.
    8. they WILL, as their top priority, pass whatever legislation they can think of to ensure they never ever end up in the minority again (think amnesty, motor voter, fairneess doctrine, nationwide absentee ballots, making it illegal to ask for voter ID, etc, etc)… does another 40 years in the minority sound appealing to anyone?
    9. the WILL commit America to Kyoto and any other number of international treaties designed by our competitors to save our economy, and it will have just such an effect. As Bill Clinton said, “We have to slow down the economy”
    10. they WILL allow the Bush tax-cuts to expire, increase taxes on top of that, and drastically increase regulation.
    11. they WILL make energy extraordinarily more expensive both intentionally through additional gas taxes, energy company taxes and regulation, and unwittingly through all the “green” crap they want to pull from “green” law and regulation to international treaties to asinine foreign policy.
    12. the economy is in very uncertain territory. It can be turned around, but Democrats WILL devastate it.

    I understand the temptations to gather up all your marbles and go home when you don’t get most of what you want. John McCain is a media suck-up and compromises conservative beliefs far too much. I can think of very few Republicans I would support less than Nanny Huckabee.

    But if the only choice I am given is to see all 12 of those things come to fruition, or only half of them, then I know what I must do. Vote and even campaign for the lesser of two evils.

    The silver lining is John McCain would prevent SOME of that, and quite frankly, it is possible, (I dont know how likely) that McCain may perform very differently as president than he has as Senator. They are afterall, two very different jobs.

    In 230 years, there has been only one Ronald Reagan. There have been very few “great” presidents. Some conservatives are behaving as though they are entitled to one every 4 years.

    Democrats have been extremely successful in pushing this nation further and further into socialism because when they cannot make large gains, they are content to make incremental gains. Conservatives seem only willing to settle for the whole enchilada. THAT needs to stop. THAT is how we will lose our country.

  18. Oops. #9 should read, “they WILL commit America to Kyoto and any other number of international treaties designed by our competitors to cripple our economy, and it will have just such an effect. As Bill Clinton said, “We have to slow down the economy”

  19. In 230 years, there has been only one Ronald Reagan. There have been very few “great” presidents. Some conservatives are behaving as though they are entitled to one every 4 years.

    Conservatives seem only willing to settle for the whole enchilada. THAT needs to stop. THAT is how we will lose our country.

    Thank you for stating the obvious, please continue to do so regularly.
    What depressed me most last night was how energized the Democrats are and how demoralized the Republicans are. The money, the enthusiasm, the large number of votes, are all on the Democratic side this year.
    If everything were equal, I could live with the fluctuations of the parties. But as AE astutely mentioned, the Dems will do everything illegally possible to stay in the majority and destroy this country.

    I listened to Obama and cringed. Change, we can do it, a new America. Except it’s all the same package with a new face.
    As for McCain, I hope he reaches out the conservatives. I thought his speech last night was a start. But in order to do so he shouldn’t alienate all the middle of the road voters who won’t want Huckabee as VP. There are better choices out there!

  20. AE – You know I respect you – but it is amazing how well your list still works, if you substitute “McCain-Huckabee” for “Democrats”.

    If McCain-Huckabee wins the Presidency,

    1. they WILL [permit the Democrats to] nationalize and destroy the healthcare industry. And can anyone point out an entitlement program that once started was ever ended? There will be no going back.
    2. they WILL pull out of Iraq. (Come on. We’ve won in Iraq, so any President would in 2009-2010.)
    3. they WILL appoint anywhere from 2 to 5 Souters to the SCOTUS and pack the appelate courts to bursting with same. (Remember, Warren Rudman sold everybody on Souter, and is now McCain’s campaign chair.)
    4. they WILL extend full constitutional protection to terrorists. (Remember, McCain is the guy who thinks we should close Gitmo and has implied Bush is a torturer.)
    5. they WILL shrink the military and do estraordinary damage to it and the intelligence services and homeland security. (To pay for health care. See point 1.)
    6. they WILL pass amnesty
    7. they WILL reinstate the fairness doctrine to silence dissent. (Remember McCain-Feingold. McCain’s first job in office: Shut down Rush Limbaugh.)
    8. they WILL, as their top priority, pass whatever legislation they can think of to ensure they [as RINOs] never ever end up in the minority again (think amnesty, motor voter, fairneess doctrine, nationwide absentee ballots, making it illegal to ask for voter ID, etc, etc)… does another 40 years in the minority sound appealing to anyone?
    9. the WILL commit America to Kyoto and any other number of international treaties designed by our competitors to save our economy, and it will have just such an effect. As Bill Clinton said, “We have to slow down the economy”
    10. they WILL allow the Bush tax-cuts to expire, increase taxes on top of that, and drastically increase regulation.
    11. they WILL make energy extraordinarily more expensive both intentionally through additional gas taxes, energy company taxes and regulation, and unwittingly through all the “green” crap they want to pull from “green” law and regulation to international treaties to asinine foreign policy.
    12. the economy is in very uncertain territory. It can be turned around, but McCain-Huckabee (both anti-capitalists / “class warfare” guys) WILL devastate it.

    McCain won’t prevent any of that. In fact: a Democratic President might even be better, because all you Republicans would know who to fight then. You might stop some of the bad stuff – and what you didn’t stop, would rightly be blamed on Democrats. Not so, under President McCain-Huckabee.

  21. Oops. #9 should read, “they WILL commit America to Kyoto and any other number of international treaties designed by our competitors to cripple our economy, and it will have just such an effect. As Bill Clinton said, “We have to slow down the economy”

  23. You have several good points, ILC.

    But your entire argument hinges on Republicans being unwilling to push back against Republicans — and, as the immigration brouhaha this past summer showed, Republicans can fight back against things that a Republican President pushes in connivance with liberal Democrats and win in the process.

    Meanwhile, AE is absolutely right; HillObama have promised to do every single one of the things he outlined, and they will have a subservient media to cover up for them in the process.

    In short, I trust our ability to keep McCain on the straight and narrow more than I do HillObama’s grip on sanity or reality.

  24. Thank you for stating the obvious, please continue to do so regularly.

    Meow meow reowr hiss hiss pffft to you too.

    Unfortunatley, if it were obvious to the people who are contemplating not voting for McCain, they wouldnt be contemplating such a self-destructive idea in the first place. Do try to think before you snark.

  25. Thank you ILC, the respect is mutual, But your argument also supposes that McCain will break just about every campaign promise he has made. I am highly wary of McCain, and will be voting for Romney in my primary next week, but even I’m not that cynical.

    Rudman may be a McCain supporter, but so is Ted Olson. In fact, he may now be advising McCain, (I dont know)
    I know he has endorsed him.

    And I have heard the argument that a republican minority would be better poised to fight democrats than a moderate or liberal republican president. I agree with NDT here. Especially considering with the high number of retirements on the Republican side, and the fact that Republicans have more seats up in the senate… that Democrats may very well increase their majorities significantly in both houses… you will have to do a much better job of convincing me that a cowed, weakened, and smaller republican minority puts us in a stronger position to fight.

    But i am open to listen.

  26. Maybe it’s just me, but I had been wondering how the pollsters could get it SO WRONG in California.

    Zogby had Romney ahead by 7 points, and he loses by 8 – a 15-point miss. So how did such a reliable pollster get it so wrong?

    Here’s a quote from Zogby that tells the tale:

    “It appears that we underestimated Hispanic turnout”

    Oh, I see. OK, now put on your thinking cap and try to follow my logic:

    1. In California, you are NOT required to show ID to vote. You can also just vote absentee. California is also exploding with illegals.

    2. So imagine you are a Dhimmicrat operative, and you want to make sure John McCain wins CA. You register thousands of illegal Hispanics and have them vote absentee for McCain.

    3. No one checks. No one complains. Done deal.

    And as Dan, Bruce, ILC, TGC and a few others know, I am not a tinfoil-hat-wearing-conspiracy-theorist. But the above scenario DOES make you go “HMMMMM.”

    Regards,
    Peter H.

  29. I’d think the longer and tighter the race between Obama and Clinton, the better for Republicans. The longer they fight, the more damage they do to eachother, and the longer they fight, the more money they use up.

    The funny thing is that some liberals apparently blame Karl Rove for Hillary’s racist and anti-Muslim attacks on Oprama.

    get a little drunk if necessary and do the same.

    Fortunately, my polling place is about 400 yards (in a straight line) from my front door on a private driveway.

  30. The funny thing is that some liberals apparently blame Karl Rove for Hillary’s racist and anti-Muslim attacks on Oprama.

    lol. I hadnt heard that, but I shouldnt be surprized. I’d love to hear the logical trainwreck that produced that conclusion.

    Fortunately, my polling place is about 400 yards (in a straight line) from my front door on a private driveway.

    lol