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		<title>By: Robert LeBlanc</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/02/06/the-radical-strain-among-gay-activists/comment-page-1/#comment-377658</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert LeBlanc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 02:53:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;n in the Book by name Conduct Unbecoming, by Randy Shiltz, and Do Ask and Do Tell. I think I&#039;m one the very few that is still alive which is in the book Conduct Unbecoming. My web site is www.staffsergeantleblanc.com. 
I&#039;m looking forward to the follow-up book by N. Frank, Unfriendly Fire.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;n in the Book by name Conduct Unbecoming, by Randy Shiltz, and Do Ask and Do Tell. I think I&#8217;m one the very few that is still alive which is in the book Conduct Unbecoming. My web site is <a href="http://www.staffsergeantleblanc.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.staffsergeantleblanc.com</a>.<br />
I&#8217;m looking forward to the follow-up book by N. Frank, Unfriendly Fire.</p>
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		<title>By: Iranian gay</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/02/06/the-radical-strain-among-gay-activists/comment-page-1/#comment-125671</link>
		<dc:creator>Iranian gay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Apr 2008 11:29:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am Iranian , not leftish but I am aware that left in IranÂ  has been supporing gay right in the last 10-15 years. left is under pressure in my country by this dictator regim, we gays/lesbiansÂ  are also under pressure. recently left groups in particula left students have tried toÂ  creat somesorts co-operation between left. gays/lesbians and women movement.
And the latest is that a left student magazine has asked for some gay activists to contributeÂ  by articles. I think it is a good sign.
The aim is to work for a movement similar to civil right movement in Us in 60`s</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am Iranian , not leftish but I am aware that left in IranÂ  has been supporing gay right in the last 10-15 years. left is under pressure in my country by this dictator regim, we gays/lesbiansÂ  are also under pressure. recently left groups in particula left students have tried toÂ  creat somesorts co-operation between left. gays/lesbians and women movement.<br />
And the latest is that a left student magazine has asked for some gay activists to contributeÂ  by articles. I think it is a good sign.<br />
The aim is to work for a movement similar to civil right movement in Us in 60`s</p>
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		<title>By: ThatGayConservative</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/02/06/the-radical-strain-among-gay-activists/comment-page-1/#comment-2728</link>
		<dc:creator>ThatGayConservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 22:58:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#5
WTF was that all about? Are you sure your comment is for this blog?

&lt;blockquote&gt;Or should I lump y’all in with Fred Phelps cause you’re both conservative?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Sorry. Phelps is a Democrat. He&#039;s yours, not ours.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#5<br />
WTF was that all about? Are you sure your comment is for this blog?</p>
<blockquote><p>Or should I lump y’all in with Fred Phelps cause you’re both conservative?</p></blockquote>
<p>Sorry. Phelps is a Democrat. He&#8217;s yours, not ours.</p>
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		<title>By: Zeke</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zeke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 16:33:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here at GayPatriot I would probably be considered one of those reviled GayLeftlibs but I have to say that I agree with every word of Average Gay Joe’s commentary.  Bravo Sir, bravo!

That being said I must respond to Mike’s comment above.  Let me preface my comment by disclosing that I am a proud veteran of the USMC (Officer, 12 years, including 2 combat tours).  Yes Mike there certainly are hypocrites on the left who claim to be anti-war and anti-military while playing GI Joe at the bars and in their bedrooms.  I personally know gay men who rant and rave against the military and war but who have military uniform fetishes.  Unbelievably, one anti-war, anti-military screaming liberal I know actually has a Nazi SS uniform fetish.  I call it &quot;All Costume, No Show&quot;.  However, I have met MANY more gay conservatives (and conservatives in general) who SAY that they love the military, and who never met a war they didn’t like, who have never, will never and (most galling to me) WOULD never wear the uniform of the military they so love and certainly would never put their own asses on the line to fight the wars that give them such raging hard-ons.

On the one hand you have people who get turned on by a military uniform as &quot;macho&quot; drag while completely disrespecting the military and the Marines, Soldiers, Sailors and Airmen it represents.  Worse yet, they ignore the huge sacrifices that countless men and women wearing that uniform have made to provide and protect the rights and freedoms that we all enjoy.

On the other hand you have people who truly seem to get turned on by war (ANY war).  They get turned on by the military and by the THOUGHT of (as opposed to actual) military service.  They wave their flags, they display their yellow ribbons, they conflate supporting a war with supporting the troops, they spend countless hours in front of their keyboards (from the comfort of their home of course) “fighting” bravely in the trenches to passionately defend/support/promote the latest war, regardless of its legitimacy, from any and all challenges from the pinko liberal commie hordes; yet somehow they never are convinced enough, or passionate enough, or moved enough, or invested enough, or concerned enough or sincere enough to put their asses where their words are.  Oh, they ALWAYS have reasons and excuses as to why that is:  they’re doing their part here at home; they’re too old; they’re in school; they’re a legislative aid to a pro-war legislator; they own a business; they have flat feet and asthma and so on, but I have a hunch that the truth of the matter is they’re full of hot air.  They have strong feelings on lots of things but no convictions on anything.  They have passions and principles that they think SOMEONE should be willing to die for, they just want it to be someone ELSE.  But most of all I think they are afraid.  They are pussies.  Any one who’s ever served in combat knows who I’m talking about, the guy who’s a “Kill ‘em ALL, let God sort ‘em out” bad boy on the surface but a sniveling coward inside where it counts when it counts.  Having met a number of these types who are actually IN the military I can’t help but believe that the ranks of the Fighting First Keyboard Infantry Brigade aren’t chocked full of them.

Military uniform drag queens annoy me.  I never miss an opportunity to tell them so, but let&#039;s face it, they are nothing more than a passing annoyance.  On the other hand, cowards putting on Armchair Warrior drag shows from the safety and comfort of their keyboards really set my blood to boiling because there are real consequences to having lifelong civilian war monger cheerleaders that show up to rally &#039;round the flag every time they get a whiff of Napalm in the air.

Sorry for the overly long comment but frankly, as should be obvious, I get pissed off at civilian people on the left and the right of this issue.  I guess this explains why I tend to piss people off on both the liberal and conservative blogs that I post on.

I just calls ‘em likes I sees ‘em.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here at GayPatriot I would probably be considered one of those reviled GayLeftlibs but I have to say that I agree with every word of Average Gay Joe’s commentary.  Bravo Sir, bravo!</p>
<p>That being said I must respond to Mike’s comment above.  Let me preface my comment by disclosing that I am a proud veteran of the USMC (Officer, 12 years, including 2 combat tours).  Yes Mike there certainly are hypocrites on the left who claim to be anti-war and anti-military while playing GI Joe at the bars and in their bedrooms.  I personally know gay men who rant and rave against the military and war but who have military uniform fetishes.  Unbelievably, one anti-war, anti-military screaming liberal I know actually has a Nazi SS uniform fetish.  I call it &#8220;All Costume, No Show&#8221;.  However, I have met MANY more gay conservatives (and conservatives in general) who SAY that they love the military, and who never met a war they didn’t like, who have never, will never and (most galling to me) WOULD never wear the uniform of the military they so love and certainly would never put their own asses on the line to fight the wars that give them such raging hard-ons.</p>
<p>On the one hand you have people who get turned on by a military uniform as &#8220;macho&#8221; drag while completely disrespecting the military and the Marines, Soldiers, Sailors and Airmen it represents.  Worse yet, they ignore the huge sacrifices that countless men and women wearing that uniform have made to provide and protect the rights and freedoms that we all enjoy.</p>
<p>On the other hand you have people who truly seem to get turned on by war (ANY war).  They get turned on by the military and by the THOUGHT of (as opposed to actual) military service.  They wave their flags, they display their yellow ribbons, they conflate supporting a war with supporting the troops, they spend countless hours in front of their keyboards (from the comfort of their home of course) “fighting” bravely in the trenches to passionately defend/support/promote the latest war, regardless of its legitimacy, from any and all challenges from the pinko liberal commie hordes; yet somehow they never are convinced enough, or passionate enough, or moved enough, or invested enough, or concerned enough or sincere enough to put their asses where their words are.  Oh, they ALWAYS have reasons and excuses as to why that is:  they’re doing their part here at home; they’re too old; they’re in school; they’re a legislative aid to a pro-war legislator; they own a business; they have flat feet and asthma and so on, but I have a hunch that the truth of the matter is they’re full of hot air.  They have strong feelings on lots of things but no convictions on anything.  They have passions and principles that they think SOMEONE should be willing to die for, they just want it to be someone ELSE.  But most of all I think they are afraid.  They are pussies.  Any one who’s ever served in combat knows who I’m talking about, the guy who’s a “Kill ‘em ALL, let God sort ‘em out” bad boy on the surface but a sniveling coward inside where it counts when it counts.  Having met a number of these types who are actually IN the military I can’t help but believe that the ranks of the Fighting First Keyboard Infantry Brigade aren’t chocked full of them.</p>
<p>Military uniform drag queens annoy me.  I never miss an opportunity to tell them so, but let&#8217;s face it, they are nothing more than a passing annoyance.  On the other hand, cowards putting on Armchair Warrior drag shows from the safety and comfort of their keyboards really set my blood to boiling because there are real consequences to having lifelong civilian war monger cheerleaders that show up to rally &#8217;round the flag every time they get a whiff of Napalm in the air.</p>
<p>Sorry for the overly long comment but frankly, as should be obvious, I get pissed off at civilian people on the left and the right of this issue.  I guess this explains why I tend to piss people off on both the liberal and conservative blogs that I post on.</p>
<p>I just calls ‘em likes I sees ‘em.</p>
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		<title>By: Boo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Boo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 10:09:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Recognizing the Iraq war as an illegal and immoral enterprise, and therefore working to prevent more people from getting sucked into it, is not the same thing as hating the military. The marine recruiters themselves did not implement the policies of the Iraq War and Don&#039;t Ask (Just Kidding, We&#039;ll Keep Asking But You Better Damn Sure) Don&#039;t Tell, but they are the instruments of those policies. Look at war itself. Heinrich the german private may not have planned the conquest of Poland, but if you were fighting for the allies in WWII you&#039;d still have to shoot poor Heinrich.

Oh, and the Black Muslims and Black Panthers were two different groups. Or should I lump y&#039;all in with Fred Phelps cause you&#039;re both conservative?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Recognizing the Iraq war as an illegal and immoral enterprise, and therefore working to prevent more people from getting sucked into it, is not the same thing as hating the military. The marine recruiters themselves did not implement the policies of the Iraq War and Don&#8217;t Ask (Just Kidding, We&#8217;ll Keep Asking But You Better Damn Sure) Don&#8217;t Tell, but they are the instruments of those policies. Look at war itself. Heinrich the german private may not have planned the conquest of Poland, but if you were fighting for the allies in WWII you&#8217;d still have to shoot poor Heinrich.</p>
<p>Oh, and the Black Muslims and Black Panthers were two different groups. Or should I lump y&#8217;all in with Fred Phelps cause you&#8217;re both conservative?</p>
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		<title>By: ThatGayConservative</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/02/06/the-radical-strain-among-gay-activists/comment-page-1/#comment-2726</link>
		<dc:creator>ThatGayConservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 05:36:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#3
It still amazes me that liberals love Stalin, Castro, Mao, Chavez, Noriega, Guevara etc. Yet we&#039;re supposed to believe Bush is a fascist dictator and the biggest violator of human rights?

&lt;b&gt;HUH???&lt;/b&gt;

How the f**k does that square? I honestly believe that Disney World is based more on reality than liberalism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#3<br />
It still amazes me that liberals love Stalin, Castro, Mao, Chavez, Noriega, Guevara etc. Yet we&#8217;re supposed to believe Bush is a fascist dictator and the biggest violator of human rights?</p>
<p><b>HUH???</b></p>
<p>How the f**k does that square? I honestly believe that Disney World is based more on reality than liberalism.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Hughes</title>
		<link>http://www.gaypatriot.net/2008/02/06/the-radical-strain-among-gay-activists/comment-page-1/#comment-2727</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Hughes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 23:43:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apparently, some GayLeftLib types STILL don&#039;t get the fact that they can be hanged in Iran, stoned in Pakistan and sent to a gulag in Cuba, just for the &quot;crime&quot; of being gay.

Tell me again how the government can deny civil rights to gays in this country??

(Crickets)

Thought so.

Regards,
Peter H.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apparently, some GayLeftLib types STILL don&#8217;t get the fact that they can be hanged in Iran, stoned in Pakistan and sent to a gulag in Cuba, just for the &#8220;crime&#8221; of being gay.</p>
<p>Tell me again how the government can deny civil rights to gays in this country??</p>
<p>(Crickets)</p>
<p>Thought so.</p>
<p>Regards,<br />
Peter H.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 20:52:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;...one can still find an anti-military bias either directly or through their silence.&lt;/em&gt;

Which is often combined with a complete fetishization of those in uniform.  I can no longer count the number of times some fellow homo has asked me about &quot;all the sex in the barracks.&quot;

That&#039;s really my only comment; otherwise I second ILC&#039;s comment at #1.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>&#8230;one can still find an anti-military bias either directly or through their silence.</em></p>
<p>Which is often combined with a complete fetishization of those in uniform.  I can no longer count the number of times some fellow homo has asked me about &#8220;all the sex in the barracks.&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s really my only comment; otherwise I second ILC&#8217;s comment at #1.</p>
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		<title>By: ILoveCapitalism</title>
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		<dc:creator>ILoveCapitalism</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 17:10:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s hard to comment on a post I agree with so much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s hard to comment on a post I agree with so much.</p>
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