Obama: Organized in Ohio
While all polls show Mrs. Clinton leading in the Buckeye State, some by a significant margin, Senator Obama could well score an upset in Ohio. Reporting from my home town (Cincinnati), the elder of the younger PatriotBrothersWest reports a lot more Obama than Hillary signs.
Yesterday, an elderly man from Georgia came to his house, asking him to vote for the Illinois Senator, insisting that charismatic candidate “was going to change America.” Of course, that man did not offer any specifics on how his man was going to bring about that change. (It seems that for Obama supporters, you just need to believe.)
The superabundance of signs suggests an enthusiasm for Obama which seems lacking among Hillary supporters. That he is doing door-to-door canvassing indicates he has a better ground game than Mrs. Clinton. (He had not yet been canvassed by supporters of the former First Lady.) And I had thought the Clintons were known for their campaign operation.
With more enthusiasm among his supporters — and a better ground game — Obama may well win in Ohio. Indeed, while Hillary lagged in the polls in New Hampshire, many credit her success in the Granite Sate to her campaign’s ground operation spearheaded by the mysterious Michael Whouley. Now it seems Obama has the better game. (But, then again, this post is based on one anecdote and Hillary may well have a get-out-the-vote effort, targeting more reliably Democratic voters.)
Mrs. Clinton’s supporters can only hope that the mysterious Michael Whouley and his minions are busy working their magic in Ohio, Rhode Island, Texas and Rhode Island, if only to delay the fall of the house of Clinton.
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Last time I was in Cincinnati, there were Bush/Cheney stickers and signs everywhere.
Comment by ThatGayConservative — March 2, 2008 @ 2:11 pm - March 2, 2008
if we live by that logic… Ron Paul will be president…
Comment by hill dennnizen — March 2, 2008 @ 5:02 pm - March 2, 2008
I go to UC and there are Hillary signs outside the campus….so thats a slanted view.
Comment by Darkeyedresolve — March 2, 2008 @ 7:34 pm - March 2, 2008
I have to wonder if Orgasma believes in Israel or not. I’ve heard-tell that he’s run with a crowd that raises money for the PLO so I’m guessing he doesn’t.
Comment by ThatGayConservative — March 2, 2008 @ 10:11 pm - March 2, 2008
#3 Now that’s a heavy and serious question. The press has about 8 months to start asking them of Barack.
Comment by Gene in Pennsylvania — March 2, 2008 @ 10:58 pm - March 2, 2008
Some thoughts on the Obamaniac. (Some mine; others not mine, just sent privately by a couple people who will know who they are.)
Is Obama the candidate of the empty, fluffy, entitled "self-esteem generation?
Given the mindlessness of his supporters – given his taking "lack of accomplishments" to a distinctly new level, and their inability to articulate why they support him, except for repeating platitudes – should we start calling him Dear Leader?
This is my own thought. In fairness, Obama’s mindless supporters are cross-generational… GPW’s brother was accosted by an elderly Obama supporter. And many of them are good people – just insane and/or misled by the New York Times, when it comes to politics. I have an elderly aunt and uncle who are really nice human beings… also classic upper-middle-class, East Coast, NYT-reading guilty white liberals. Guess who impresses them? I had occasion to see them this weekend. My uncle said "It would say something really good about this country, I think, if it could elect either a black or a woman as President." I love this man and couldn’t just tell him what a dumb reason that is to elect anyone. Instead, I gently suggested that American racism might still exist but is probably overrated, Obama has been rated by some as the most liberal member of the Senate, and if Obama eventually loses to McCain, it will be if McCain did a good job educating people on Obama’s real positions. My uncle had no comeback.
Comment by ILoveCapitalism — March 3, 2008 @ 10:25 am - March 3, 2008
Keep misunderestimating Obama. His campaign is organized and he’s inspiring. I remember another inspiring candidate who was able to get most of his agenda through a Congress where the House was controlled by the opposition party.
Please throw smears and accusations about his religion and race. It just makes you look petty and desperate which, judging from the reality of the voter turnout and fundraising, you are.
Comment by Houndentenor — March 3, 2008 @ 10:42 am - March 3, 2008
And who , pray tell, is misunderestimating Obama?
Comment by Vince P — March 3, 2008 @ 10:52 am - March 3, 2008
Folks, there you have it. Perfect illustration.
How does Houndentenor defend Obama? With the platitudes, "His campaign is organized and he’s inspiring."
And then by changing the subject, to perceived or alleged "smears" about Obama’s religion and/or race. There are no such smears present, in this thread.
Houndentenor, you implicitly just compared Obama to Reagan. Unfortunately – for you and for Obama – Reagan actually had accomplishments, reasonable positions, and *practical specifics* on how things could be changed for the better. You (or your liberal friends) just didn’t want to know them. But Reagan supporters could offer them readily, at the time.
But don’t worry – I don’t "misunderestimate" Obama at all. Quite the contrary. I’ve given testimony, in #6, to the Dear Leader’s power to hypnotize people.
Comment by ILoveCapitalism — March 3, 2008 @ 10:53 am - March 3, 2008
I have to visit this once more. The platitudes, "His campaign is organized and he’s inspiring."
Guess Who Else’s campaigns were super organized and inspiring?
Kim Jong Il’s. Hugo Chavez’s. And Hitler’s.
Dear Leader, it is!!!!
Comment by ILoveCapitalism — March 3, 2008 @ 10:56 am - March 3, 2008
I also think there is some under representation of Hillary’s support in Ohio, because they are not going to be the most out loud with their political statements. I believe a lot of her older supports do go around telling it, they keep it to themselves. Excitement for Obama doesn’t always translate to support at the polls, but we will all know soon enough.
Comment by Darkeyedresolve — March 3, 2008 @ 11:53 am - March 3, 2008
Good point, Darkeyed. Â Hillary’s supporters may well not be the types who don’t manifest their support as readily as do Obama’s supporters.
Comment by GayPatriotWest — March 3, 2008 @ 12:02 pm - March 3, 2008
 His campaign is organized and he’s inspiring.
In some circles, this is called the bandwagon. Perot lead one, Ron Paul lead one and Mickey Mouse had the Mouseketeers. Being the leader of the parade does not mean that you get a pass for whoever you are or who you hang with.
It is a long time til November and Obama is going to have to be some Pied Piper to keep his crowd happy and organized going round and round on his Umpah-pah-pah, Umpah-pah-pah spewing merry-go-round.
Comment by heliotrope — March 3, 2008 @ 12:40 pm - March 3, 2008
Oh, garbage. The "His campaign….." was supposed to be a blockquote. And I know the "lead" should have been "led." I shall go hide under the bed for a few hours.
Comment by heliotrope — March 3, 2008 @ 12:44 pm - March 3, 2008
 My uncle said "It would say something really good about this country, I think, if it could elect either a black or a woman as President."Â
Of course, because competence should always take a back seat to skin color or gender.
Obama is the classic example of liberal thought; choosing a qualified white male is evil, choosing an underqualified minority member is good.
Comment by North Dallas Thirty — March 3, 2008 @ 1:48 pm - March 3, 2008
It’s not so much that I think McCain is unqualified as much as I am against most of what he would do as president. It has nothing to do with race.
I am not voting for the man who campaigned for a ballot initiative in his home state that would have stripped gays of all partnership status of any kind. No thanks.
(Also of course Iraq is a big issue for me as it is for many Americans.)
Sorry but if you are trying to make this about race, it isn’t going to fly. I didn’t vote for Obama because he was black. If you think I did maybe you should look in the mirror and wonder why you assume everything is about color.
Comment by Houndentenor — March 3, 2008 @ 3:19 pm - March 3, 2008
if we live by that logic… Ron Paul will be president…
Well that’s true. You know, I’ve never seen so many hand made campaign signs for any candidate before. Is he not selling stuff or what?
Keep misunderestimating Obama.
Call me whatever you want, but it seems to me that there has to be an underlying substance of a candidate before they can be misunderestimated. As far as making fun of his race, religion etc., that’s mostly from the liberal left. We don’t really have to.
Who was it that called him "The Magic Negro" and who was it that, not long ago, wrung their hands about whether he was "black enough". It’s liberals who are more concerned with race and gender. It’s liberals going orgasmic because they have a woman and a black. We could care less.
Comment by ThatGayConservative — March 3, 2008 @ 3:24 pm - March 3, 2008
Houndentenor, I am sincerely delighted that you have found comfort and reassurance in Obama. You and I can not understand one another on this score. I think Obama is Barney married to a socialist agenda.
Let us address the issue of race. I know what I look at when I look in the mirror. You will just have to guess my color. True racism is a vicious, ignorant attitude based on fear with plenty of loathing. Barack Obama is hoping to be the president of every American. If he allows race or the charge of racism to protect his record from scrutiny, he is not worthy of consideration. That may make the bar a bit higher for him, but those who have overcome the barriers of true racism fully understand the game.
In my opinion, Barack Obama is a darn cheesy representative a "successful black man." He is nothing more than a slick orator who has used his race to game the system. If he were a conservative fighting socialism, he would be an "Uncle Tom." Now, that is racism. Ask Condoleeza Rice, Clarence Thomas, J.C. Watts, Michael Steele, Armstrong Williams, Shelby Steele, Walter Williams or any other black who doesn’t conform to the liberal, politically correct stereotype.
Comment by heliotrope — March 3, 2008 @ 5:52 pm - March 3, 2008
Thomas Sowell…
Comment by ILoveCapitalism — March 3, 2008 @ 6:24 pm - March 3, 2008
Thanks, ILC, I was huffing and puffing a bit and my list was truncated by my urge to post! It really is a very long list, which stems from Booker T, GW Carver and even A Phil. Randolph each of whom figured out how to infiltrate the lines and open doors. Good God, but I am worn thin by selective liberalism and egalitarianism. Obama is a perfect example of Carl Jung’s "collective unconscious." Jung said the "collective unconscious" was common to everyone and it directs (some) people, via surrogates (read: Obama), to act on their dreams, intuition and their visions of a better self to make mistakes on purpose. It is how a Mao, Hitler, Mandela or Obama is able to hold a follower in his thrall. Machiavelli advised the prince who was endowed with power. Saul Alinsky advised the demon who had the power to mesmerize the masses. Hello, Barack Obama, Jung knew you well and Alinsky was your guiding star.
Comment by heliotrope — March 3, 2008 @ 7:45 pm - March 3, 2008
 I didn’t vote for Obama because he was black. If you think I did maybe you should look in the mirror and wonder why you assume everything is about color.
Mainly because, Houndentenor, you didn’t previously strike me as the type who would endorse ignoring Iran, which you claim is a danger, immediate pell-mell withdrawal from Iraq, which you used to think was a bad idea , massive new taxes and increased earmark spending, which you claim is bad use of government money, and vastly expanding the Medicare prescription drug program that you previously claimed was wasteful.
Despite his wanting to do all of those, you fully endorse and support Barack Obama — but then claim that your positions are so important that you can’t support John McCain.
So let’s see; you won’t support a white guy who you disagree with on numerous counts, but you will support a black man with whom you disagree on numerous counts.
In a humorous way, Obama really is what Democrats like you deserve, Houndentenor. You’ve spent innumerable years arguing that minority status trumps everything else; now you’re finally reaping the rewards, which is a candidate with whom you disagree on numerous levels, but who you can’t vote against because his skin color trumps your disagreements with him.
Comment by North Dallas Thirty — March 4, 2008 @ 12:27 pm - March 4, 2008
#20
Don’t forget Jim Jones, David Koresh, that dude from Rice U. who believed a UFO was behind that comet, etc.
Comment by ThatGayConservative — March 5, 2008 @ 12:21 am - March 5, 2008
#21
Don’t forget promises to cut tens of billions in wasteful spending while promising to add hundreds of billions more. That and castrating the military once he tells the world to go fcuk themselves sideways.
Comment by ThatGayConservative — March 5, 2008 @ 12:25 am - March 5, 2008
Wow.. anyone hear of this.. remember Obama would meet with Chavez who is supporting FARC as well as hosting Hezbellah:
Colombia said on Tuesday that FARC rebels had been planning to make a “dirty bomb†with radioactive material, threatening the entire Latin American region.The charges by Vice-President Francisco Santos, at the United Nations-sponsored Conference on Disarmament, marked a dramatic turn in a regional crisis that has seen Venezuela and Ecuador cut diplomatic ties with Colombia.Bogota has already accused Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez of funding the Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia (FARC) guerrillas, after Colombian forces crossed into Ecuador and killed a senior rebel commander on Saturday, sparking troop movements and warnings of war.“Just yesterday (Monday) our national police submitted an initial report regarding the content of two computers found with Raul Reyes, second in command of FARC, who was killed last Saturday,†Santos said.They contained “information from one commander to another indicating that FARC was apparently negotiating for radioactive material, the primary basis for generating dirty weapons of mass destruction and terrorism,†he added.
Comment by Vince P — March 5, 2008 @ 1:47 am - March 5, 2008